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T-Mobile Data Speed Cap Question

I have the mytouch and T mobile with unlimitied data plan..Today I wake up do a data wipe install cm7 and when it goes to download the gapps apps from the market it takes forever..I waited 35 minutes for it to download gmail and google maps..I stop the other downloads and try to figure why my apps are downloading slow and why my internet is snail slow..while wondering I get a text message from T mobile telling me I have used to much bandwith for the month cycle and I will have a data speed cap till next cycle....This would be alright but it is not as I can no longer download any market apps ( I can but it takes 30 minutes to an hour )Nor Can I really surf the web.(Took me 25 minutes to get here)Pandora nor slacker work anymore either.
Has anyone else had this happen to them ? Also is there anything I can do to get them to uncap my service..I have been a T mobile Customer for 11 years and think they should do something.Just wondering if anyone else had this problem......
Thanks

I've never had that problem, but then again my max DL per month has been at 1-2GB tops..
Try calling them, but check your bill first to see what they have you clocked at so far for the current billing period... I think they don't impose that on you till you hit +5GB... Good Luck.

I get that all the time, well not this past month because I finally got internet at the house lol. I used it for tethering and alot of internet & email & I would always seem to get it with 2 or less weeks left. I guess it's once you go over 5gb t-mobile slows you down.

I haven't actually had it happen YET, but when I went on the website, I noticed it said I was approaching the data cap... Never saw that before. D;

Thanks..I looked and I am at 5.09gb ..Looks like I am slowed till the 23rd..I dont tether so it must have been from slacker / pandora ..I will have to watch it more next month..

You can download t-mobile's 'my account' app from the market so you can keep a closer eye on your data usage, although, if you have unlimited data plan you can't set an alert for it, even though 5gb is the cap...

I get close to 3-4gb every month and never notice a slow down...I can understand a cap of 5gb to keep the network from being overloaded...I thether and use it to watch HULU and nightly roms so cant see going over,unless something crazy.

... Doesn't make sense.. I'm paying $30/month for "unlimited"... just to get capped?

it does make sense.. u "read" it and signed it. its all in the contract so yes the data is unlimited but once 5gigs is reached in one billing cycle its cap'd to run 2g/edge until the cycle refreshes. it use to be 10gig max but with the recent explosion of smart/data phones the demand for bandwidth and speed are at an all time high. i also learned this the hardway.. now i use wifi anywhere i can to limit my data usage. but even then its still hits 4gigs a month. its mainly a problem for us that use our phones as primary internet.

Use wifi as much as possible. I am fortunate enough to have wifi at work and home and my data usage on tmo's network is ridiculously low for the amount of data I use.
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Wagedroid said:
it does make sense.. u "read" it and signed it. its all in the contract so yes the data is unlimited but once 5gigs is reached in one billing cycle its cap'd to run 2g/edge until the cycle refreshes. it use to be 10gig max but with the recent explosion of smart/data phones the demand for bandwidth and speed are at an all time high. i also learned this the hardway.. now i use wifi anywhere i can to limit my data usage. but even then its still hits 4gigs a month. its mainly a problem for us that use our phones as primary internet.
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No,
it does not make sense to people that signed an unlimited data plan in 2009, the changes for data cap were made on the new contract July 18, 2010. I know that Tmobile reserves the right to make changes, but they also state that they are suppose to give a 30 day notice. Did anyone receive such notice in data changes? I don't think so. You all can say well is insane to spend more than 5gb of data, but you have to understand that many people use their phone a lot and id their right to be upset when they signed an "UNLIMITED" plan and then is changed without prior notice.

also be aware that T Mobile slows you down to 54kbs. Welcime back Dial Up!!!

laramir21 said:
No,
it does not make sense to people that signed an unlimited data plan in 2009, the changes for data cap were made on the new contract July 18, 2010. I know that Tmobile reserves the right to make changes, but they also state that they are suppose to give a 30 day notice. Did anyone receive such notice in data changes? I don't think so. You all can say well is insane to spend more than 5gb of data, but you have to understand that many people use their phone a lot and id their right to be upset when they signed an "UNLIMITED" plan and then is changed without prior notice.
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like i said, technicaly they dont make it not unlimited.. they just cap the speed, so yes it does make sense.. u signed up for unlimited data not unlimited data at its peak speed, that just sounds retarded. if you signed up before the change then you shouldve requested to be grandfatherd and they wouldve been happy to keep the customer happy. and fyi a news letter and disclaimer was put out for all pre existing customers before the change was made. and even then they didnt change the unlimited part. ill leave this the way i leave any other service provider discussion...., ive been with tmob since sidekick original no color.. not once did they treat me wrong or charge me for something i wasnt responsible for and aware of. i dont recommend but there is an alternative.. AT&T, Verizon, Sprint and even Metro all got u covered.
good day.

I think it ok to note that this is not only a T-Mobile thing, every carrier does this. I know that there is a hack on XDA that is built into the MIUI roms that actually cuts off the signal that your phone sends to Verizon that you have reached the cap so you never see your data slowed down. I do not know how they wrote the hack or if it is possible to do something similar with a t-mobile phone, but it might be worth looking into.

amart6116 said:
... Doesn't make sense.. I'm paying $30/month for "unlimited"... just to get capped?
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you are paying for unlimited data because you get unlimited data - they just don't guarantee at what speed you'll be able to download at...

I completely understand your predicament! I was in your same shoes.
T-Mobile does not charge extra for anything more than 5gb, but they do make you eat your buffet food through a straw! Now, I remedied my problem with the wonderful program 3g Watchdog, which is free. Set it to your monthly cycle, and you can even place a widget with usage on your screen. Very handy little program.
So yes, I tried calling and talking with the reps, nothing will work. I spoke with managers, and people from India. They can't do anything about it. I couldn't even pay them more money! How ridiculous! But alas, I had to see the bright side. Looking at AT&T or Verizon, you have limits of 2gb or so and then they charge you for anything over that. Screw that! So I figured if I'm downloading 5gb of data in a month, then I need to get my ass together and make my life work for me. So please figure out your **** lol, you'll feel so much better when you do.
Tyler

laramir21 said:
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it does not make sense to people that signed an unlimited data plan in 2009, the changes for data cap were made on the new contract July 18, 2010. I know that Tmobile reserves the right to make changes, but they also state that they are suppose to give a 30 day notice. Did anyone receive such notice in data changes? I don't think so. You all can say well is insane to spend more than 5gb of data, but you have to understand that many people use their phone a lot and id their right to be upset when they signed an "UNLIMITED" plan and then is changed without prior notice.
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That ssssssssssucks!
I went to T-mobile store last week to pay my bill, the man told me about the upgrade discount after a year, when we reached the 4G topic I asked about this slow down of speed after 5Gb and he was like he had no idea, he repeated "Noou, it's unlimited" "that what you heard is for those with plans of certain data limit"
I told him that's what it should be, I said it wouldn't make sense to have such high-speed and still be limited :S
Serously! I'm paying $-freaking-30 monthly for internet access that is like 1mb of speed on this lil' phone, same as it would be using a DSL, why would they put a limit?
Tmo-guy- Because it's a wireless service-
Me: My ass! that ain't no reason!
Again makes no sense....
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Its people like you who make the system slow for everyone. Why do you think att is so ****ty? Its because too many people are using their iphone for everything. Simple supply and demand. Tethering should be used as needed when no other internet service is avalible. I for one like the cap and I welcome it to a charging alternative. Its like any other provider. If you get greedy you should get punnished.
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Digitaldreamer7 said:
Its people like you who make the system slow for everyone. Why do you think att is so ****ty? Its because too many people are using their iphone for everything. Simple supply and demand. Tethering should be used as needed when no other internet service is avalible. I for one like the cap and I welcome it to a charging alternative. Its like any other provider. If you get greedy you should get punnished.
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Why should there be such capabilities offered if that's going to bring out risky complications to the system?
That's not reason to call one greety and 'punish'
Is not like one would like to reach a cap just because it can be done and bother other's connections.
Tethering is not as different as using your phone, since our smartphones' web browser is as fully capable as a computer web browser.
Also think of the 4G + What's next??
If one service imprubes why not the others that can prevent issues from the same.
A page loads trice as fast, makes the user able to go on where others would stop, so you see it's not a malicious intention but what the user is led up to.
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I hit the cap every month around the 15th...bill cycle on the 25th.. But I use a ton of data due to I show photos and deal with contracts that I am unable to dl at work.

Sprint claims they don't throttle??

If you go to Sprint.com, the first promo they have on there is the promotion of their $79 unlimited data plan. If you click on that, it brings you to a page where they are promoting it some more, and on the bottom of the paragraph it says "When you become a new Sprint customer, we'll buy your old phone and you can FORGET ABOUT DATA CAPS, OVERAGES AND THROTTLING while you're on the Sprint Network."
Is this true? Can anyone here, who is perhaps a sprint employee, confirm that Sprint does not throttle? Because I'm a semi-heavy data user (20gb of data usage last month alone) and I can see from the speed differences alone that they throttle. Any insights on this?

As far as everything that has been told to me, the only users we throttle are the heaviest roaming users; this however, is not contrary to their claims, as the "no throttling" claim applies to being on the Sprint network.
Now, I'm sure there are automated tower optimizations that ensure all users on a node have equal access to data, so a disproportionately heavy user may experience varying speeds as part of the "leveling out" action, but i would surmise this isn't intentional "throttling" so much as it is ensuring customers aren't affected greatly by a handful of users.
That, of course, is purely speculation.
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And plus your speed will constantly vary with tower loads and your relative proximity to the closest tower.
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Yeah like Squshy has said everything I've read is they will throttle "roaming users" but on network you are fine. And them doing it to roaming users is not out of line either.

hijewpositive said:
If you go to Sprint.com, the first promo they have on there is the promotion of their $79 unlimited data plan. If you click on that, it brings you to a page where they are promoting it some more, and on the bottom of the paragraph it says "When you become a new Sprint customer, we'll buy your old phone and you can FORGET ABOUT DATA CAPS, OVERAGES AND THROTTLING while you're on the Sprint Network."
Is this true? Can anyone here, who is perhaps a sprint employee, confirm that Sprint does not throttle? Because I'm a semi-heavy data user (20gb of data usage last month alone) and I can see from the speed differences alone that they throttle. Any insights on this?
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What the hell did you use 20GB for? This is why the network is so ****y and slow. People like you abuse data like there is no tomorrow.
Sorry but you should get throttled. Use your Wifi, don't be so cheap. And by the way I click the thanks button, because I really wanna thank users like you for screwing the rest of us out of bandwidth.

I know for a fact I'm being throttled. I used to get between 1.5-2mb down on 3g, until last month when I used 12gb of data. Now I'm lucky to pull 500k. In fact my buddy came over with the same phone and we did the speed test and he pulled between 1.3 -1.7mb. Mine was 300 - 600k. I know 100% I'm being throttled. It sucks hardcore.
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globen said:
I know for a fact I'm being throttled. I used to get between 1.5-2mb down on 3g, until last month when I used 12gb of data. Now I'm lucky to pull 500k. In fact my buddy came over with the same phone and we did the speed test and he pulled between 1.3 -1.7mb. Mine was 300 - 600k. I know 100% I'm being throttled. It sucks hardcore.
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sounds about right.

I have heard from an indirect dealer, that if you have service through an indirect dealer than it will be throttled.
In Boise we have a few Sprint indirect dealers. They either sell the phones for cheaper, or the plans for cheaper, but the service sucks.
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I just took all of the trottling services out of the services.jar and I am actually seeing faster speeds consistantly. I would say about 100kbs faster download, uploads are about the same.
EDIT: I used speed test and did a series of 4 tests 30 seconds apart on the same server to get my results. After removing the throttling services it was average of 96kbs faster download speeds.

No way to get around being throttled?
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globen said:
I know for a fact I'm being throttled. I used to get between 1.5-2mb down on 3g, until last month when I used 12gb of data. Now I'm lucky to pull 500k. In fact my buddy came over with the same phone and we did the speed test and he pulled between 1.3 -1.7mb. Mine was 300 - 600k. I know 100% I'm being throttled. It sucks hardcore.
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Based on the info you provided, all you know for a fact is you two got different speed test results.
You can be in the vicinity of multiple towers and each tower can have multiple carriers/channels. Each tower and even channel on the same tower can perform differently. Sometimes rebooting or updating PRL can cause you to shift to a different tower or channel.
For each speedtest, you need to verify you are both on the same tower and channel. You can find that information in the ##DEBUG# menus.
If you do that, then run the speedtests at the same time, then that could support your theory.
Otherwise it is like saying your wifi is bad, but your neighbors wifi is good (w/o mentioning yours is on ch6 and theirs is on ch11)

wow, 20 gigs is a lot of data on a phone....
Frankly, I hope users like you do get throttled, or have an up charge for that much usage..

wase4711 said:
wow, 20 gigs is a lot of data on a phone....
Frankly, I hope users like you do get throttled, or have an up charge for that much usage..
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Here's a thought.
If a company doesn't want users to use unlimited data DO NOT OFFER UNLIMITED DATA.
Just because YOU can't think of ways to use your phone to its full potential there is no reason others cannot and should not when the SELLING POINT WAS the unlimited data!

I wonder if I was being throttled when I was getting 74k, oh that's right, I use almost no data every month because my 3G connection BARELY WORKS!
I work downtown Chicago, sitting next to a bunch of ATT and Verizon users and watch them actually use their phone!

tt281gt said:
Here's a thought.
If a company doesn't want users to use unlimited data DO NOT OFFER UNLIMITED DATA.
Just because YOU can't think of ways to use your phone to its full potential there is no reason others cannot and should not when the SELLING POINT WAS the unlimited data!
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I 100% agree with this post
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tt281gt said:
Here's a thought.
If a company doesn't want users to use unlimited data DO NOT OFFER UNLIMITED DATA.
Just because YOU can't think of ways to use your phone to its full potential there is no reason others cannot and should not when the SELLING POINT WAS the unlimited data!
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That's a dumb response. Torrenting from your phone is not a good use of data.
I have 2 exchange accounts, 2 gmail acount, facebook, linkedin, twitter, 2 pop3 emails. I use 2 gigs. He should be throttled.
I work as a sys admin and handle the bills for our data. If i saw someone use that i would not just take his phone, I would make sure he gets fired. Actually a user like that i would make it my goal to make sure he gets fired and report him to all the wireless companies that we have a contract with, just to make sure that he doesnt do that again.
So tell me how am i not using my data to it's FULL POTENTIAL? I can understand 5-6 gigs.
I understand you're a cheppo that wants money for that art degree, but please get MetroPCS. I'll pay your 45$ a month just so there is one less of you.

tt281gt said:
Here's a thought.
If a company doesn't want users to use unlimited data DO NOT OFFER UNLIMITED DATA.
Just because YOU can't think of ways to use your phone to its full potential there is no reason others cannot and should not when the SELLING POINT WAS the unlimited data!
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I hope this same mentality doesn't carry over to all you can eat...

Trust me I've now had multiple friends over, all with the same results. Funny part is when I delete the file data/system/throttle it goes up over 1.5mbs. Then drops instantly to sub 500kbs. Just looking for a way to not get throttled. Might have to call sprint ask. My data each month is usually right around 5 to 6gb of data. As soon as I went over 10gb, I got slammed with throttling. It really sucks.
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apatcas said:
That's a dumb response. Torrenting from your phone is not a good use of data.
I have 2 exchange accounts, 2 gmail acount, facebook, linkedin, twitter, 2 pop3 emails. I use 2 gigs. He should be throttled.
I work as a sys admin and handle the bills for our data. If i saw someone use that i would not just take his phone, I would make sure he gets fired. Actually a user like that i would make it my goal to make sure he gets fired and report him to all the wireless companies that we have a contract with, just to make sure that he doesnt do that again.
So tell me how am i not using my data to it's FULL POTENTIAL? I can understand 5-6 gigs.
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That's what you feel personally.. But your response doesn't speak for everyone sir... Some people actually use their phone to no extent..or more likely a personal computer.. Weather its watching netflix, streaming media, or tether devices.. Which in take consumes alot of data.. Being that sprint is the only carrier who promotes and campaigns unlimited data.. People come over here with that intent to use their smartphone with that intention.. At the end, you can't blame anyone for using xx amount of gb if the carrier is boasting they provide data with no limitations
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apatcas said:
That's a dumb response. Torrenting from your phone is not a good use of data.
I have 2 exchange accounts, 2 gmail acount, facebook, linkedin, twitter, 2 pop3 emails. I use 2 gigs. He should be throttled.
I work as a sys admin and handle the bills for our data. If i saw someone use that i would not just take his phone, I would make sure he gets fired. Actually a user like that i would make it my goal to make sure he gets fired and report him to all the wireless companies that we have a contract with, just to make sure that he doesnt do that again.
So tell me how am i not using my data to it's FULL POTENTIAL? I can understand 5-6 gigs.
I understand you're a cheppo that wants money for that art degree, but please get MetroPCS. I'll pay your 45$ a month just so there is one less of you.
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Ill take you up on that Metro Offer since you offered
Lets see, I have 4g speeds, a phone that can stream movies and play them on any tv through HDMI, GOOD QUALITY MOVIES range in the 2GB range, stream music, youtube, XDA,. You do the math.
Sounds to me like you're a communist and a pucker butt.
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I hope this same mentality doesn't carry over to all you can eat...
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Of course!
No really, apples to oranges here. You took my words out of context. Over eating does not feel good.

I guess you'll never believe that sprint throttles your data until it actually happens to you! I wasn't a believer until now!
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Tmobile data cap work around?

Any way to work around this data cap?
What a freaking scam, makes me rage. 60kbps download speed is a freaking joke
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We had a work-around. But it has since been patched by Tmobile.
So the answer is, no.
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The workaround is to pay them more money or use wifi at starbucks or something.

60kbs? You're in luck then because most of us get 6-10kbs
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I wouldn't consider it a scam as they have several different plans to choose from depending upon your data needs. I myself have the 5GB plan and usually come in just over 2 GB's and that is with constant syncing, surfing and downloading of ROMS (200+ Mb's apiece) and apps while at work and at play. Granted, while at home I am using wifi.
My question is, what is everyone doing to use so much data so quickly? Are you streaming a ton of high def content? Are you using this as your home internet connection?
At the end of the day, T-mobile has to manage their bandwidth consumption and given the option of throttling versus paying for data overage, I choose throttling every time. Plus, if you realize you use too much data you can always upgrade to the next higher plan. If price is an issue, the retention department has always worked wonders for me.

I always run out of my 5gb cap every month by surfing online, constant background sync for emails and Facebook. I also listen to internet radio and YouTube.
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It's not a scam. It's what you agreed to in your contract.
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Not true. I remember when they didnt data cap or throttle. It just happened out of no where for me and i never agreed to it in any contract. You dont think its a scam to reduce your speed to 60kbps where you cant even stream pandora or it takes like 3 minutes to load a webpage? /joke

moonstar845 said:
Not true. I remember when they didnt data cap or throttle. It just happened out of no where for me and i never agreed to it in any contract. You dont think its a scam to reduce your speed to 60kbps where you cant even stream pandora or it takes like 3 minutes to load a webpage? /joke
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I too remember when they didn't cap or throttle, but I don't believe for a second that you didn't agree to it. First of all, are you under contract? If so, then yes you did as part of the TOS.

moonstar845 said:
Not true. I remember when they didnt data cap or throttle. It just happened out of no where for me and i never agreed to it in any contract. You dont think its a scam to reduce your speed to 60kbps where you cant even stream pandora or it takes like 3 minutes to load a webpage? /joke
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mobile has had a 5GB limit on data since June 2008 before throttling. They just started enforcing
it in the last year or so.
2. Protective Measures
To provide a good experience for the majority of our customers and minimize capacity issues and degradation in network performance, we may take measures including temporarily reducing data throughput for a subset of customers who use a disproportionate amount of bandwidth; if your total usage exceeds 5GB (amount is subject to change; please periodically check T-Mobile.com for updates) during a billing cycle, we may reduce your data speed for the remainder of that billing cycle. We may also suspend, terminate, or restrict your data session, Plan, or service if you use your Data Plan in a manner that interferes with other customers’ service, our ability to allocate network capacity among customers, or that otherwise may degrade service quality for other customers.

I do remember there being a point at which you had 30 days (or some other amount of time) to opt out of your contract if you no longer agreed to the tos. This was pushed to subscribers when the cap came out.
I dont mean to go off on a rant, but im really getting sick and tired of people crying like babies because there data is capped. Honestly, whatever your doing on your phone that is using 5 gb a month you most likely need to find a different way to consume that data. A lot of people have some misguided representation of what there needs are leading to these crazy feelings of entitlement. "They're scamming me, i need to be able to watch my youtube/redtube/netflix" I tried hard to go over my limit last month and i was 800mb shy.
To the OP, your pissing in the wind.

I went through my 5GB of data in a little over two weeks. I use Pandora all day at work (stupid network restrictions) and I also use it for Youtube. I have noticed that my web browsing has slowed a little bit, but where it really effects me is trying to watch videos either on Youtube or ESPN, kinda of reminds me of the dial-up internet days.

Rod3 said:
I wouldn't consider it a scam as they have several different plans to choose from depending upon your data needs. I myself have the 5GB plan and usually come in just over 2 GB's and that is with constant syncing, surfing and downloading of ROMS (200+ Mb's apiece) and apps while at work and at play. Granted, while at home I am using wifi.
My question is, what is everyone doing to use so much data so quickly? Are you streaming a ton of high def content? Are you using this as your home internet connection?
At the end of the day, T-mobile has to manage their bandwidth consumption and given the option of throttling versus paying for data overage, I choose throttling every time. Plus, if you realize you use too much data you can always upgrade to the next higher plan. If price is an issue, the retention department has always worked wonders for me.
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this is my sole internet connection for home. im at work almost every day, and with the 5gig plan i can get away without having a deadicated internet line.
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I pay the xtra 30 bucks and I get 10 gigs and free hotspot! So worth it. I called and they gave me 10$ off my bill for 24 months bcuz I been with tmobile for more than 8 years. Call and ask for customer loyalty. Tell them your fed up and ready to leave tmobile due to data caps and prices on the plans they will do something to keep u happy. Then put data up. Also could be in my head maybe I'm crazy but I feel it way faster 4g since I upped from 5 to 10 lol.
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T-mobile Prioritization?

Rant incoming..... tl;dr .... 20GB in 8 days, "data guzzler list" getting 0.1mbit now during peak hours and 5mbit on off-time....
So was happily watching youtube videos when got hit with that buffering. Noticed I was getting poor internet connection, saw full bars. Ran speed test, a whopping .10 mbps... Called them, they said I'm on the prioritization list because in 8 days, racked up 20GB which means I'm in the 95~ percentile in data usage on my unlimited data plan... Went through the phone, sure enough... 2-4GB per day by youtube... Still, not even a nice warning, and they treat me like it's my fault I was actually using my unlimited service... Even during the call, they were like, "just tell him he's on the list and nothing can be done. He used too much data...."
Well first thing I did was turn off high quality streaming because that's a gas guzzler for sure.... But I would have loved a warning text that I'm using too much data, but not even that... Anyone else noticed this? Funny thing, went through 2 customer reps both never saw that before, and tech support said they are doing something new.... Fun times.... They are not "throttling, they are making your data less of a priority", but 0.1 mbps consistent throughput for a minute... that's not prioritizing, that's throttling...
Oh, and best yet... they thanked me for my 11 years being a customer with them... Yea... >_>

mcs117 said:
Rant incoming..... tl;dr .... 20GB in 8 days, "data guzzler list" getting 0.1mbit now during peak hours and 5mbit on off-time....
So was happily watching youtube videos when got hit with that buffering. Noticed I was getting poor internet connection, saw full bars. Ran speed test, a whopping .10 mbps... Called them, they said I'm on the prioritization list because in 8 days, racked up 20GB which means I'm in the 95~ percentile in data usage on my unlimited data plan... Went through the phone, sure enough... 2-4GB per day by youtube... Still, not even a nice warning, and they treat me like it's my fault I was actually using my unlimited service... Even during the call, they were like, "just tell him he's on the list and nothing can be done. He used too much data...."
Well first thing I did was turn off high quality streaming because that's a gas guzzler for sure.... But I would have loved a warning text that I'm using too much data, but not even that... Anyone else noticed this? Funny thing, went through 2 customer reps both never saw that before, and tech support said they are doing something new.... Fun times.... They are not "throttling, they are making your data less of a priority", but 0.1 mbps consistent throughput for a minute... that's not prioritizing, that's throttling...
Oh, and best yet... they thanked me for my 11 years being a customer with them... Yea... >_>
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Yeah thats BS. As long as you are not doing P2P sharing they should not throttle you . If you have a true unlimited plan that should be exactly what it is. I understand that they are not home internet providers but if they provide you a service that is unlimited then throttle you then there must be a fair use policy . I know people using 5 to 10 times the data u are and not getting throttled. 2 to 4 GB a day is high but in reality its only about one and a half full length HD movies . Im surprised they did not restore you speeds and let you off with a fair warning . I miss the good old days where they throttled at the phone and and not at the server. On my GS2 you could delete the throttle folder and make a few other tweaks and never get throttled even on a 1 GB Plan . What area do you live in . are you in the USA?

the carriers need to make it clearer about what "unlimited" really means, but, on the other hand, I dont think anyone should be using their cell phones as their primary means of accessing the internet, unless the carriers come out and say that they are ok with that.
cant you use your home internet/wifi for all this heavy duty data consumption?
yeah, a warning would have been nice, but c'mon dude, thats a pace of over 80 gigs of data per month, and that is just crazy...
and yeah, there are worse offenders than you, but even so..

20 GB is pretty unreasonable, so I don't disagree with them.

Yea, I know 20GB in 8 days was high, which is why I'm going to restrict youtube's HQ streaming... but still... Even with FCC latest decision and then Tmobile is doubling down on throttling to control both legit and illegal data... that's ridiculous....
Also, no warning... I had to find out from calling in.... I usually call them because I got dropped out of the LTE and they need to "register" me back onto the tower... And I check my monthly usage.... 50GB a month.... Recently, with this new phone... HQ streaming really is HQ streaming.... Because I was on a M8 before and had no issues... I might as well live on the 4g only band.... because apparently only LTE is being metered....

I waste that much data in like a month and i think is a lot lol

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I waste that much data in like a month and i think is a lot lol
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Yea, I know. But at the same time, you got people hitting 100+ GB, but for me, never near that, got placed with those people.... And It's all because of stupid youtube, I really wish they have an audio only/screen off mode where I just listen to debates/talk shows on there and apparently the video portion is 1080p... >_>

If Google Fi is a hit, it's only going to get worse!

I have the same issue. Called them up, they told me prioritization and for me to use less data. Sigh.
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It was all fun and games for a few years until they reached their goal of users, now is back to boring company like the rest.

i saw an "unlimited data" ad by sprint one time, and while reading the fine print (because thats what i do when im eating breakfast) i saw that it said "Unlimited does not mean Unreasonable" so Tmobile isnt the only one doing this. Now i want to go above 20gb because i have unlimted 4g with tmo as well

I have done 70+ gb and never had any issues. I think this issue is more how much of a impact you create with avaliable bandwidth for other tmobile user and the length of the impact. I'm sure it's all automated so even the tmo reps may not know why or how it was triggered.

I'm one of those Data Juicers... Lol

I'm on my first week with TMO and have 42gb so far. Hope I don't run into any "prioritization" schemes.

No room for complaints about prioritization. How much would have getting past even the 5gb mark cost on Verizon or att? Why should you and people like you use up all the bandwidth with YouTube and I get slower speeds for normal web surfing? Just stop being a habitual data over user and they will ignore the couple times a year you use way to much data. My wife uses 40gb a month give or take (still to much use if you ask me) and has never been pushed to the back of the line.
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I should make my self a little clearer. Using YouTube a lot isn't a bad thing, using it for listening to music all day is just stupidity. I don't care how bad you guys are going to flame me on this because you know deep down its true. Get Spotify pay the 8 bucks a month and boom your data usage will drop dramatically. I understand its unlimited data but you should use it responsibly because your not the only one using the bandwidth.

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I'm on my first week with TMO and have 42gb so far. Hope I don't run into any "prioritization" schemes.
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what could you possibly be doing on a cell phone that uses 42 gigs in one week???

I would have to tether to use that much data. I usually end up around 10 to 20 gigs a month which is plenty for me. My only gripe over this is not specific to Tmo, IMO they and everyone else should not be able to use the word unlimited unless it is actually unlimited and it should be right out there in front, not in the fine print.The word unlimited cannot be qualified, unlimited means there are no limits, if there is a limit it is not unlimited. In other words tmo (and all the rest) should say "Up to 60 gigs full speed and throttled but unlimited throttled data after". They should only be able to use the word unlimited if the data is actually unlimited. Tmo 4g data is not unlimited but they are using that wording and that should change.
BTW, not trying to tell others what they should use or say how much data is enough or how much it should cost, just that the actual data and speeds you are going to get for the money you agree to pay should be clearly worded in the big print.

agreed; their sales and marketing people are afraid to give any competitor an advantage over them, by actually stating in their TOS how much data is actually "unlimited", so instead, they punish the consumers with arbitrary slowdowns and throttling when they feel they are being abused..
and, even though I think that anyone using 42 gigs a week of data is definitely violating the vaguely worded TOS that t mobile and Sprint employ, this wont stop until some legal action is taken against the carriers or the data hogs who are abusing their networks..

I'm picking up a s6 tomorrow and I'll ask them to print out the agreement in full and point out the data usage part. When I get time I'll scan and upload it so everyone can look at it. I'm sure in the tos that you agreed to it will state almost word for word what you think it would say. If it didn't you know a ambulance chasing lawyer would have a class action lawsuit right now.

thanks, I havent looked at mine in a long time, probably because I stay on wifi almost all the time, and my data useage is never more than a gig or 2..
read this
http://bgr.com/2015/04/30/t-mobile-unlimited-data-plan-slow-speeds/

Pixel XL and I moved from Grandfathered VZ Unlimited to new Unlimited, here's why

Well I have had my Verizon unlimited for god knows how long and now that all the carriers are coming back with their own version of unlimited data plans I finally gave my plan a review.
I have had 2 lines with big red, both with unlimited data. My wife (who is Canadian) and I travel to Canada a lot to see her family and we live in L.A. so we vacation in Mexico.
I use the Pixel XL 128GB and she has an iPhone something or other.
I use on average 35GB a month and she uses about 11GB on average. When I travel with family it can go over 70 GB as everyone who is Canadian with us uses my phone as their hotspot.
I was using the trick to pop the sim out and back in then initiate the hotspot just fine. Heck I have the key on my keychain for it.
In the end, using our own unlimited data in Mexico & Canada, calling to and from those countries, my wife easily using the native 10GB hotspot on her iPhone toy, and having HD Streaming no counting against "unlimited data", plus now having unlimited voice call (we had 2000 minutes before) while it saving me now $70 a month was hard to say no to.
I'm sure I can keep my data usage below 30GB a month if I actually use wifi more often and download my torrents in a more sensible way (not through my phone willy nilly) Heck I have had 1 month where I hit 1.1 TB as I used my phone to supply internet for the entire house for a couple months just because it was faster than my home internet service.
So in the end, this just made practical sense as it's easier for my wife and we don't have to watch our data when traveling in N. America. And $70 a month buys a lot of cigars.

I just worry about the 22 GB and losing priority. Have a hard time believing they are not gonna throttle or "proriritize" differently than they say. I have zero issues with my unlimited now and never lose any speed...
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Milkman328 said:
I just worry about the 22 GB and losing priority. Have a hard time believing they are not gonna throttle or "proriritize" differently than they say. I have zero issues with my unlimited now and never lose any speed...
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It's on my mind as well but I think I used my phone in a way where I just didn't care if I was on wifi or not. This past 1 month period my data was a lot lower than normal because I actually used the wifi in my office and at home which I normally don't do. I guess your lifestyle will determine if it's worth it. $70 a month difference made it worth it for us to switch.

Also keep in mind that you can only use 10gb of data through hotspot before they begin throttling. You can get around this by using pdanet or a similar hotspot app.

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Also keep in mind that you can only use 10gb of data through hotspot before they begin throttling. You can get around this by using pdanet or a similar hotspot app.
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Yeah I took that into consideration. Now my wife can just press a button on her iPhone to get her hotspot going and as for me I know the work arounds so I'm fine with it.

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Also keep in mind that you can only use 10gb of data through hotspot before they begin throttling. You can get around this by using pdanet or a similar hotspot app.
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this is true
however
using pdanet still uses data
so if u go over 22gb of data usage in a billing cycle
u will ill be "deprioritized" for the remainder of the billing cycle
which could negatively impact ur data speeds
and hence ur pdanet speeds
vzn keeps saying that cell data doesnt get throttled
only hotspot will get throttled after 10gbs/mo usage
ill believe it when i see it
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if u have the old school unlimited "nationwide" plan
beware
if u use >=200gbs of data in a billing cycle
u will get booted from that plan
full stop
just happened to me without any warning
in fact prob worth u calling into vzn
to confirm wut the data usage limit is before u get kicked

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if u have the old school unlimited "nationwide" plan
beware
if u use >=200gbs of data in a billing cycle
u will get booted from that plan
full stop
just happened to me without any warning
in fact prob worth u calling into vzn
to confirm wut the data usage limit is before u get kicked[/QUOTE]
That's allot of data dude. I don't think I have ever gone over 50. I been thinking about getting on that new plan from my grandfathered one. But something scares me about it. There's got to be some kind of catch. I dunno lose my discount to. But It would save me 40 bucks. Did they let you get on the new plan?

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this is true
however
using pdanet still uses data
so if u go over 22gb of data usage in a billing cycle
u will ill be "deprioritized" for the remainder of the billing cycle
which could negatively impact ur data speeds
and hence ur pdanet speeds
vzn keeps saying that cell data doesnt get throttled
only hotspot will get throttled after 10gbs/mo usage
ill believe it when i see it
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Just throwing this out there since the topic is still active, I've used 37gb so far with a week left until it starts another month.
Speed test is reporting my down at 28-33mbps, which is what I got when I first started the plan. I haven't touched any of my hotspot because I don't need to.

noidea24 said:
Just throwing this out there since the topic is still active, I've used 37gb so far with a week left until it starts another month.
Speed test is reporting my down at 28-33mbps, which is what I got when I first started the plan. I haven't touched any of my hotspot because I don't need to.
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that sounds solid. have u noticed any slowdown after going past the 22gb threshold? and r u using during/in "high congestion" times/areas?

peterlee928 said:
this is true
however
using pdanet still uses data
so if u go over 22gb of data usage in a billing cycle
u will ill be "deprioritized" for the remainder of the billing cycle
which could negatively impact ur data speeds
and hence ur pdanet speeds
vzn keeps saying that cell data doesnt get throttled
only hotspot will get throttled after 10gbs/mo usage
ill believe it when i see it
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if u have the old school unlimited "nationwide" plan
beware
if u use >=200gbs of data in a billing cycle
u will get booted from that plan
full stop
just happened to me without any warning
in fact prob worth u calling into vzn
to confirm wut the data usage limit is before u get kicked
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that sounds solid. have u noticed any slowdown after going past the 22gb threshold? and r u using during/in "high congestion" times/areas?
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I'll be in Macon today, and I'll run a few speed tests and a download around 3. That's when most schools are getting out and people get off around here.

In speaking to a Verizon tech because I wanted the full story this is what happens when you go over 22GB (It will be increased soon I hear).
Once you hit 22GB you are no longer on the "Priority" list to connect to 4G. So if you are home, at work, the movies, you will still connect perfectly fine with ZERO throttle.
If you are at a Football game, Concert, somewhere with a dumb amount of people, then you will be down the list to connect to 4G but once you are connected you still are not throttled.
This was my deciding factor and it seems now I am saving $81 this month having switched both my grandfathered unlimited plans to this new unlimited plan. I have used about 28GB this cycle so far with 17 days left to go. I live in L.A. And have not had issues.

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In speaking to a Verizon tech because I wanted the full story this is what happens when you go over 22GB (It will be increased soon I hear).
Once you hit 22GB you are no longer on the "Priority" list to connect to 4G. So if you are home, at work, the movies, you will still connect perfectly fine with ZERO throttle.
If you are at a Football game, Concert, somewhere with a dumb amount of people, then you will be down the list to connect to 4G but once you are connected you still are not throttled.
This was my deciding factor and it seems now I am saving $81 this month having switched both my grandfathered unlimited plans to this new unlimited plan. I have used about 28GB this cycle so far with 17 days left to go. I live in L.A. And have not had issues.
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thx poets. ive heard the same from vzn cust svc reps but remain skeptical. good to hear that u havent had any issues post-22gbs. i also live in la, so ur positive exp thus far is great to hear
fyi i was able to get vzn to price match tmobiles current unlimited plan cost. took more than 1 call, but worth it basically $100/mo for 2 lines. that includes line access fees and taxes. that match was for a 12 mo period - thereafter, the line access fees and taxes are charged normally.
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I'll be in Macon today, and I'll run a few speed tests and a download around 3. That's when most schools are getting out and people get off around here.
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eager to hear how it goes!

Boop boop, commenting again.
I hit 40gb. My connection has slowed drastically all across the board. Whether I'm at the house, work, mall, my connection speed is **** now.
It has slowed to a whopping .8mbps, multiple test thought the day all stick with the same results. I'll check again when it gets dark.

That sucks to hear. I was also considering moving from the grandfathered plan to the new one. Idk why it's so scary to give it up..

I have the new UDP and I was at 80 gigs in a billing cycle. Never was throttled. I will say it depends on where you live. If you live in a big city then more of a chance to get throttled than if you live more out in the county
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If that happens to me I will rip Verizon a new one. They specifically said there is no throtteling, only delayed 4G connections if you are no longer on the priority list.

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Boop boop, commenting again.
I hit 40gb. My connection has slowed drastically all across the board. Whether I'm at the house, work, mall, my connection speed is **** now.
It has slowed to a whopping .8mbps, multiple test thought the day all stick with the same results. I'll check again when it gets dark.
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thx for the update... was afraid of that... fckn vzn and their doubletalk smh... which apps do u use to check connection speeds?
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wut else did "they" say (pulp fiction reference)
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That sucks to hear. I was also considering moving from the grandfathered plan to the new one. Idk why it's so scary to give it up..
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just as a warning - i was told by vzn that if u go over 200 gbs of data usage in a billing cycle, then u will automatically get kicked from ur grandfathered plan. but worth double checking on ur own as who knows wut the real story is.
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Boop boop, commenting again.
I hit 40gb. My connection has slowed drastically all across the board. Whether I'm at the house, work, mall, my connection speed is **** now.
It has slowed to a whopping .8mbps, multiple test thought the day all stick with the same results. I'll check again when it gets dark.
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prob a dumb suggestion, but here goes - would we be able to circumvent the throttling by using an internet speed booster app? i dunno the specifics behind them...
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I use speedtest by ookla, and I run it on 3 different servers to attempt to eliminate variances and achieve an average.
As far a internet connection speed booster, the only thing I can see actually helping would be all the network tweaks in the "lspeed" app.
My speed has since came up a little, but not by much. Still hanging out around the 1-2mbps range. For reference I live in Warner robins, sometimes traveling to macon, Georgia. It's nothing like Atlanta but it's a little crowded.

noidea24 said:
I use speedtest by ookla, and I run it on 3 different servers to attempt to eliminate variances and achieve an average.
As far a internet connection speed booster, the only thing I can see actually helping would be all the network tweaks in the "lspeed" app.
My speed has since came up a little, but not by much. Still hanging out around the 1-2mbps range. For reference I live in Warner robins, sometimes traveling to macon, Georgia. It's nothing like Atlanta but it's a little crowded.
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hmm doesnt sound promising. i live in los angeles. obvi pretty dense. ill report back with my results once i go over 22gbs (currently at 17 with 3 wks left in my billing cycle).

I said it before and I'll say it again. If you live in a large city then the chances of being throttled is a lot greater to happen than if you live in the middle of no where. I am on the new UDP and last month I hit over 80 gigs and no throttling happened. As I live in the middle of no where so not as many people as compared to a larger city. Now I am sure if I went to Richmond va I could almost bet ya I would of been. But you knew what you was getting in to when taking the new UDP that they might throttle ya so don't get all mad that it happened to you.
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