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I'm new to this phone and new to smartphones.
The reviews of the SGS2 rave about the bright, readable screen - even outdoors. But, I can't even tell if it is turned on without ducking back inside! The screen appears black to me.
I'm panicking because I invested in the SGS2 (full purchase price!) largely as a navigation aid for bicycle touring. I need to be able pick out fine detail on a Google Earth image. It's beautiful stuff indoors, but under the sun...
So, please assume nothing and give me all your tips, settings and strategies - basic and otherwise - on using the phone in bright sunlight. Thanks,
Stan
what is your screen brightness at? I've had mine set at auto brightness and the phone does a pretty good job of adjusting the brightness up when i move into sunlight so that the screen is still readable.
if you're having a hard time seeing the screen outside, try turning the brightness up. you might have it set too low
It definitely should not look completely black when outdoors. Either there is something wrong with the screen or with your eyes. Try setting it to max brightness and see if there is any difference.
if you have it in auto, it would automatically adjust to match the lighting conditions
SMAOLED screens are super good in directly sunlight you can still read bright and crisp even when the sun is cooking your head at 35c outdoors in a hellish summer shine
I'm writing to see if anyone here might have the same issue I'm having with my Note 4.
When it's bright outside, sometimes, the screen not only amps up the brightness, but for some reason all the colors on the screen appear really washed out. Facebook's logo is now neon blue, Evernote is like a pale lime, etc. All the colors are horribly ugly. If I open an app, or the drawer, the screen goes back to normal color, still bright though.
This ONLY happens (thus far) when I've turned the phone on while being in direct sunlight.
If I manually turn my brightness level ALL the way up, the colors still appear fine, I can't make the screen wash the colors out like that manually (not with brightness levels or adaptive display modes).
This also doesn't happen every time I wake the phone up while in direct sunlight, but about 50% of the time.
So, anyone else have this problem? Is it normal, or should I try to get a replacement? Course, since I can't replicate it on demand that will be a PITA.
Thanks
Happens to me as well. I even went to far as to disable the "dynamic screen adjustment" or whatever it is, and it still happens. Just like you said, only in direct sunlight.
It's too make the screen more viewable in direct sunlight.
washing out the colors is normal in order for the phone to be bright enough to see in direct sunlight. I, for one, love that they did this because i can see the screen perfectly in bright sunlight.
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washing out the colors is normal in order for the phone to be bright enough to see in direct sunlight. I, for one, love that they did this because i can see the screen perfectly in bright sunlight.
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I'm with you on this one, I think it's an awesome function. Heck when I found out it did I was showing everyone lol I have noticed that it's only sunlight cuz I tried using my note 3 flash light to do the same thing but to no avail.
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Yes if you have your note 4 set to auto brightness, in direct sunlight the phones backlight will push the brightness all the way up to 750nits of brightness. It will wash out the colors, but it makes the screen very visible in direct sunlight. I personally love the feature, no need to cover your hand over your phone to see a text message or something else anymore. If you don't like, like myself, I manual adjust brightness myself. Half brightness is plenty bright for any other time of the day.
This happened to me yesterday and I thought my phone was going bad. It was a wtf moment for sure. Glad to know it's a feature and not an issue with the screen. I turned the screen off then on and it went away (might have been walking indoors).
I had this happen in the day time while I was in the car multiple times, so I just turned off the automatic brightness, solved my issue.
This is the first phone that has ever been bright enough for me to read books with in the noon day sun. So I'm loving this feature bigtime. I think the automatic feature could use some fine tuning because indoors it dims the brightness too much for me but otherwise... loving it.
Freaked me out the first time it did that to me outside, but quickly realized it was on purpose to make it more viewable since it was so bright outside. Love that feature tho
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washing out the colors is normal in order for the phone to be bright enough to see in direct sunlight. I, for one, love that they did this because i can see the screen perfectly in bright sunlight.
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I love that they did this. 1st phone I've had that I can easily see the screen in direct bright sunlight. Good job Samsung.
I was shocked when I first saw it this morning... then did a google which led me here... thank God it aint faulty...
I was shocked when I first saw it this morning... then did a google which led me here... thank God it aint faulty...
I think I have this issue but idk. Dark pictures on my screen show horrible and like blocky when there's blacks. The Samsung boot screen has a yellowish greenish tint to it. My colors look washed but it isn't horrible just the dark colors and blacks get to me
NexusS4gFreak said:
I think I have this issue but idk. Dark pictures on my screen show horrible and like blocky when there's blacks. The Samsung boot screen has a yellowish greenish tint to it. My colors look washed but it isn't horrible just the dark colors and blacks get to me
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For example this is how my blacks show
Hello all... Is it just me or does anyone else notice a slight screen flicker when not looking directly at the screen? I notice it most when outside, and it is not perceptible when looking directly at the screen... but when I look away my peripheral vision picks it up. Almost like a PWM. Am I alone?
jorgasm209 said:
Hello all... Is it just me or does anyone else notice a slight screen flicker when not looking directly at the screen? I notice it most when outside, and it is not perceptible when looking directly at the screen... but when I look away my peripheral vision picks it up. Almost like a PWM. Am I alone?
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I sometimes see it as well, out of my peripheral vision. It is most obvious when the screen is dim, like when in a darker room with auto turned on. I remember reading some threads about PWM over on the Samsung Galaxy thread that said that this might happen.
Note 2, Note 3, and probably many other AMOLED phones including Note 4 use PWM to dim the display. There should be no PWM at full brightness though.
I think you can use the app Screen Filter for dimming and put the display at full brightness and you shouldn't have PWM that way.
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Note 2, Note 3, and probably many other AMOLED phones including Note 4 use PWM to dim the display. There should be no PWM at full brightness though.
I think you can use the app Screen Filter for dimming and put the display at full brightness and you shouldn't have PWM that way.
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Couple of questions regarding this solution.
1. How accurate are the colors when using this utility? Is it just a filter that is applied to the screen, or does it actually darken the pixels?
2. Does having the brightness set to full impact the battery life when using this app? I mean as PWM is meant to save battery, it must have some impact. Just wondering how much.
I think I remember seeing that even at 100% brightness, there is still some PWM, though not nearly as much as when the brightness is lower.
Thanks.
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Hello all... Is it just me or does anyone else notice a slight screen flicker when not looking directly at the screen? I notice it most when outside, and it is not perceptible when looking directly at the screen... but when I look away my peripheral vision picks it up. Almost like a PWM. Am I alone?
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I noticed it today, I thought it was a problem until I read the comments, yes exactly when I look away or just look at home button I notice screen "flashing" only on cull brightness and light colors, I wanted to bring to service Centre, so is this a problem or not ?
Rate this thread to express how well you can see the Samsung Galaxy S10+'s display outdoors. In case you've been playing Minecraft for 18 months straight, you might not known how to get outside anymore. Well, find the door and walk through it. A higher rating indicates that it has very high maximum brightness and thus fantastic outdoor visibility in direct sunlight.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
it's pretty dim, to be honest, i wish we had screen brightness like some of the older motorola phones did when android motorola was still for the cool kids instead of the soccer moms.
Best device ive used in direct sunlight. I work outdoors in the Texas heat and I have no problems seeing the screen.
10/10 for the display, its gorgeous.
Agreed, the brightness when in direct sunlight has much improved over the S9+. It's very usable on a bright sunny day
The display blows the note 9 outdoor usability - Florida sun.
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I have S10+ and can't see anything while in my car or outside. The comments above saying it's so great make me think eventhough we have the same phones, that they are talking about a different phone. I think it's awful and now regretting my decision to get this phone because this drives me completely insane. Rating 2.
No problems her in crazy sunlight. Phone does get warm because of the max brightness and direct sunlight but still very clear to read.
Its excellent
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It works really well under sunlight and yeah the phone does heat up a bit but it's ok I can see and read well my screen
On max brightness it's bright. Inside it blinds the crap out of me. Outside I can see it pretty well.
Put it on adaptive brightness. I guess there's a limit to how bright we can manually set it versus how bright it gets automatically.. I played around with these settings myself and it does get brighter when you turn on adaptive brightness. Try it! I'm sure you'll like it better! Because I was thinking three same thing you said, house the hell are these people thinking it's great in the sunlight?! Way better with adaptive enabled!
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Put it on adaptive brightness. I guess there's a limit to how bright we can manually set it versus how bright it gets automatically.. I played around with these settings myself and it does get brighter when you turn on adaptive brightness. Try it! I'm sure you'll like it better! Because I was thinking three same thing you said, house the hell are these people thinking it's great in the sunlight?! Way better with adaptive enabled!
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You are CORRECT. This has been from the very start. Only adaptive brightness will give you the max potential of the brightness of s10+'s screen.
For s10+, high brightness mode is entered when sensor reads 40,000lux, and its exited when sensor reads below 8000lux (it used to be 5000lux but it must have been changed at some point). When sun hits the screen, screen is very visible and good. When you are outside but sun isnt on the screen, you can turn your phone towards sun to activate HBM, but it may exit once you turn it back to yourself.(quite annoying as manual max is very limiting at 300nits).
There is a HDR bug, only works on android 10, you can trick the phone to stay at HDR brightness(brightness is still adjustable all the way from 1.6nits to 700), so you can manually adjust it to max brightness(700nits) whenever you want. This is the reason im staying at android 10 lol. Had to downgrade from android 11. If bootloader version turns to 10(currently 9) you wont be able to downgrade(maybe with root you can, i dont know) so its good to consider doing it
Ive always auto brightness turned on,
after installing the UI3.1 , under a bright light, it doesn't go so bright...but under sun light, or in dqy light, its just brighter and its get sooo much better...,
It's like sensors understand where u r
rezadentevil said:
Ive always auto brightness turned on,
after installing the UI3.1 , under a bright light, it doesn't go so bright...but under sun light, or in dqy light, its just brighter and its get sooo much better...,
It's like sensors understand where u r
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I was on 3.1 for 2 3 months and it enters at 40.000lux just like 3.0, i doubt they increased the thereshold cuz its already too high.
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I was on 3.1 for 2 3 months and it enters at 40.000lux just like 3.0, i doubt they increased the thereshold cuz its already too high.
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Yeah that puts a lot of wear on the display fast.
Avoid using in direct sunlight or at least limit it to seconds.
blackhawk said:
Yeah that puts a lot of wear on the display fast.
Avoid using in direct sunlight or at least limit it to seconds.
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İm actually staying on android 10 to use a hdr bug that lets me use max brightness whenever i want. Its not a suicide mission like everyone imagines
Man I hate OLED lottery.
Does anyone else have this issue? It's something similar to this:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-7t/help/green-tint-issue-oneplus-7t-t3986231
I'm debating if I should exchange it or just keep it, it's only noticeable at low brightness
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Man I hate OLED lottery.
Does anyone else have this issue? It's something similar to this:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-7t/help/green-tint-issue-oneplus-7t-t3986231
I'm debating if I should exchange it or just keep it, it's only noticeable at leow brightness
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I have the same effect in original Youtube app. It is just a bad background gradient in the application. Don´t blame the phone....
When I open Messenger with black background and grey status bar at the top of the app in the same brightness level, there is no greenish effect.
I am also having uniformity issues. Very noticeable, unfortunately. As there are no 512GB Ultras available anyway ATM, O will just have to live with it for the moment. Maybe I get used to it...
buddy66 said:
I have the same effect in original Youtube app. It is just a bad background gradient in the application. Don´t blame the phone....
When I open Messenger with black background and grey status bar at the top of the app in the same brightness level, there is no greenish effect.
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mm weird, I see it in every single app with dark grey background, even in settings (w/Dark mode on), the bleeding is a lot bigger from the top right corner.
EDIT: Just checked the messenger app (FB messenger) and background is completely black so most pixels are off except for the letters and gray search bar but bleeding wouldn't be noticeable.
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mm weird, I see it in every single app with dark grey background, even in settings (w/Dark mode on), the bleeding is a lot bigger from the top right corner.
EDIT: Just checked the messenger app (FB messenger) and background is completely black so most pixels are off except for the letters and gray search bar but bleeding wouldn't be noticeable.
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I've just checked it with Gmail since it is also a Google application and you can notice the bleed when the lights in the room are turned on and I try to cover the top of the phone to see it. After turning the lights off, whole app is equally gray so in my opinion it is just an optical illusion. If I recall well the AMOLED displays use some kind of dimming (tinkering with the frequency) in order to reach a lower point of the brightness that is not noticeable for human eye. Probably this can be seen when covering a gray part of Google apps in a room that has another not so bright light source.
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I've just checked it with Gmail since it is also a Google application and you can notice the bleed when the lights in the room are turned on and I try to cover the top of the phone to see it. After turning the lights off, whole app is equally gray so in my opinion it is just an optical illusion. If I recall well the AMOLED displays use some kind of dimming (tinkering with the frequency) in order to reach a lower point of the brightness that is not noticeable for human eye. Probably this can be seen when covering a gray part of Google apps in a room that has another not so bright light source.
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I made a picture. It is showing a 5% gray test pic and supposed to be uniform. It is easy to see and I was kind of shocked when instantly noticing it the first time I was using it in the dark. Settings and many parts of the dark one UI are using grays in that range.
Anybody else? If it is rare, it will be worth pushing for an exchange.
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I made a picture. It is showing a 5% gray test pic and supposed to be uniform. It is easy to see and I was kind of shocked when instantly noticing it the first time I was using it in the dark. Settings and many parts of the dark one UI are using grays in that range.
Anybody else? If it is rare, it will be worth pushing for an exchange.
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I did the same test, I'm attaching a picture of my Note 10+ and the S20 Ultra side by side. Uniformity seems a lot better on the note 10+, however on white background the Note 10+ turns more red when I slightly tilt it while the S20 Ultra seems to shift colors a lot less and still white overall.
Still not sure if it's worth the hassle to return.
Ok, the fact, that it looks very much like mine can be good and bad ?
Could you please check, if is different at 60Hz? For me, it is clearly different.
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Ok, the fact, that it looks very much like mine can be good and bad
Could you please check, if is different at 60Hz? For me, it is clearly different.
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Oh wow, you're right! I set it to 60 hz and QHD+ and uniformity on the gray test got noticeable better, still some green on top right corner and around the punch hole but noticeable less. I love reaaally 120 hz during normal use though.
Thanks for confirming, same here. I wonder, if this is something, that can be fixed in software... And if the rumoured 'dynamic refresh raze' update might change things.
Could please note people check their Ultras displays?
Same here with my s20 more visible at 12hz refresh rate with dark theme
Damn it, ok, then I really hope that it is fixable... Weird.
I am using smiled displays since Symbian Nokias, never had one, where I noticed it so much.
I remember all the Mate 20 Pros with LG screen had this issue buy way worse in some cases
https://www.google.com/search?q=mat...JtXpfSDsL9sQXomrbgDQ&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS731US731
In some cases they were normal during the first days but the problem evolved until the display was unsusable in low light conditions, hope the same won't happen to our phone during the next weeks.
yeah I don`t have this issue I did the screen test in Gmail and download the app that does all the different colors including gray, at the lowest brightness and at other levels of brightness at 120hz its all uniform.
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yeah I don`t have this issue I did the screen test in Gmail and download the app that does all the different colors including gray, at the lowest brightness and at other levels of brightness at 120hz its all uniform.
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Mine is most noticeable at around 35-40% brightness and with 120 hz but still noticeable with 60 hz while on the note 10+ I can't see any green at all at any level of brightness. I think it's a quality issue and variation of OLED screens but not sure if it would count as "defective". Samsung doesn't do exchanges so it would be a pain to return everything and recorder without the promotions and reservation/pre-order credits. Ugh not sure what to do yet.
EDIT: Btw I tested with gmail and didn't notice the green in the app since it's light gray but as soon as I drop down the notification panel (w/dark mode on) the green is immediately noticeable. It's only with very dark gray that lookd almost black which is what Samsung use for all their apps (settings, calculator, messages, etc.) when dark mode is on. I wish they used true black so pixels were completely off like with facebook messenger.
I am also unsure what to do. I have to say, however, that this is the device that gives me the most uncertainty ever. For this opportunity price I want a good to perfect display. @vwite Don't you think that the dark grays are too bright as well? It wouldn't be so visible otherwhise. I also sent my picture to the 'write the CEO' address and a pledge to be aware of the issue:
https://www.samsung.com/uk/info/contactus/email-the-ceo/ (example: UK)
I will try checking in a store, which will be totally hard because of the light there. Maybe I will just order another one... Or a plus ?
Made another picture 'for the CEO' :silly: and will also attach the source image I showed on screen. To replicate:
- 25% brightness
- Show 5% picture in a dark room
- made picture with an S10+ on full auto
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Made another picture 'for the CEO' :silly: and will also attach the source image I showed on screen. To replicate:
- 25% brightness
- Show 5% picture in a dark room
- made picture with an S10+ on full auto
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Thanks! Please let me know what they say.
Actually I ordered an S20+ now and will most likely just give the Ultra back in the first 2 weeks. Yes, it is a pain, but I really can not stand the screen as is. I am even putting it in its box before I have the plus and using my S10+ in the meantime - the green tint is driving me a little nuts.
I am having a hard time justifying the thickness and weight for a feature I hardly use (amazing zoom) while having an inferior main camera at the same time (focus issues).
i noticed this issue too on my 20+
it seems to be worse some days less bad other days
it also is very dependable on how much ambient light is around - eg is much more noticeable in dark rooms
and yes is an issue with Samsung dark mode that isn't true black but some dark greyish
other then this - all other colours look amazing = so not sure if the screen itself is defective
I do hope there will be a software update that will fix this or make it less visible