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If you just switched from iPhone or BB or this is ur first android. Read this thoroughly and see ur questions get eliminated by this guide. if you find this helpful than show your appreciation and hit that thnx button.
Little in-depth information about Android. Must Read. Thank You Pirateghost.
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Android itself is OPEN. you can go and build your very own version of 4.0 ICS right now from source code. there are very few phones you can STABLY and RELIABLY run it on though.
The NEXUS line of phones exists for a reason. they are untouched by carriers (verizon teabagged the Galaxy Nexus a little), and do not have some stupid overlay on them. they are developer devices in that it is the first phone to get android updates straight from google (no manufacturer interference required).
every other phone is tainted with a manufacturer's UI. Touchwiz on Samsung phones (galaxy nexus is a samsung but they provided the hardware not the software), Sense on HTC, 'non-blur' on Motorola, whatever Sony calls theirs...lol, LG, etc
on top of that tainted Android interface is a carrier branding or lockdown (doesnt apply to the entire world, but im only referring to US here)
so google releases new version of Android
manufacturers build phone, and customize android to fit their model (this is where android almost stops being OPEN)
carriers get a hold of the manufacturers build of android and tweak and modify it themselves (more than likely they just tell the manufacturers what they want), as you know they love to include bloat and lock it down from the user
you receive your android phone after it has gone through all those steps....long process huh? we dont get updates to newer versions as quickly because of that long process...and they would rather us buy new phones instead of improving perfectly good hardware.
Android is open in the sense that manufacturers can use it however they wish, within reason. it is not necessarily meant to be 'open' to the average end user, and manufacturers dont want you messing with the phone they built. its the reason XDA is what it is today, albeit with roots deep in WinMo hacking.
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ADB → Android Debug Bridge (adb) is a versatile command line tool that lets you communicate with an emulator instance or connected Android-powered device..
Android →Unveiled on 5 November 2007, Android is a mobile operating system running on the Linux kernel developed by Google.
AOSP → Android Open Source Project
Apps2SD → Move applications from the internal NAND memory on the device to a removable SD Card.
BLN → BackLight Notification
Bloatware → Software bloat is a process whereby successive versions of apps include an increasing proportion of unnecessary features that are not used by end users, or generally use more system resources than necessary, while offering little or no benefit to its users. Like all the crap that comes from At&t
Brick → When used in reference to consumer electronics, "brick" describes a device that cannot function in any capacity (such as a device with damaged firmware). This usage derives from the fact that some electronic devices (and their detachable power supplies) are vaguely brick-shaped, and so those which do not function are useful only as actual bricks. The term can also be used as a verb. For example, "I bricked my phone when I tried to modify its firmware."[
Hard Brick → When your phone does not turn on at all. When you can’t get in to CWR/CWM Or Stock recovery. You are basically screwed.
Soft Brick → When your phone bootloops. When you can get into CWR/CWM. When You can use jigtag to get into download mode.
Busybox → BusyBox provides several stripped-down Unix tools in a single executable. It runs in a variety of POSIX environments such as Linux, Android, FreeBSD and others, such as proprietary kernels, although many of the tools it provides are designed to work with interfaces provided by the Linux kernel. It was specifically created for embedded operating systems with very limited resources. Platforms counterparts, but they are pretty close and useful nonetheless.
CWR OR CWM ClockworkMod Recovery →A custom recovery for Android phones and tablets that allows you to perform several advanced recovery, restoration, installation and maintenance operations on your Android device that aren’t possible with the stock recovery.
DEODEX → Apk files have respective odexes that devs use to supposedly save space. Deodexing means you convert it back to a .dex file and put it back inside the apk. This allows you to easily replace file (not having to worry about odexes), but the main point was to deodex services.jar so that you can change all text to different colors (such as the clock color to white) and to deodex services.jar, you need to deodex everything.
Flashing → The process of applying a firmware image (or ROM) to a device. It generally entails a very specific order of steps. Failing to complete any one of these steps properly may result in bricking the device.
Firmware → is a term often used to denote the fixed, usually rather small, programs and/or data structures that internally control various electronic devices. Programs stored in the ROM, EPROM, or flash memory that usually control various internal electronic devices (Hard Drives, Keyboards, Displays, etc). Firmware is typically 'fixed' software that is not updated in consumer devices, however it is often updated (or 'flashed') by advanced users to fix bugs or add features to the device. Flashing firmware designed for one device onto a different device, or not following a specific procedure while flashing will often render the device unusable.
Kernel → is the main component of most computer operating systems; it is a bridge between applications and the actual data processing done at the hardware level. The kernel's responsibilities include managing the system's resources (the communication between hardware and software components
Radio → The cellular radio on the device which needs control software called firmware to control it.
ROM → Read Only Memory. In the context of an Android device, ROM is the internal flash memory where the core operating system resides. It can also refer to a specific version firmware that can be applied to a device through a process usually referred to as flashing. An improperly flashed ROM can often brick the device, rendering it unusable.
Superuser→ A program, which gives unlimited access privileges to perform any or all operations on the operating system.
ODIN → Odin is the Samsung software used to update Samsung phones. It does not work with any other devices other than official Samsung phones.
OTA or FOTA → (F)OTA stands for (Firmware) Over The Air and is the process by which required updates and enhancements to your phone's basic operating system can be sent to you through the cellular network. The Galaxy S II software update will be sent via FOTA and is available through Samsung Kies mini.0
ODEX → In Android file system, applications come in packages with the extension .apk. These application packages, or APKs contain certain .odex files whose supposed function is to save space. These ‘odex’ files are actually collections of parts of an application that are optimized before booting. Doing so speeds up the boot process, as it preloads part of an application. On the other hand, it also makes hacking those applications difficult because a part of the coding has already been extracted to another location before execution.
SDK → Software Development Kit.
Logcat → A debugging tool built into Android devices that displays system logs as they occur. See Logcat.
NANDroid → A set of tools that will enable anyone who has root on their Android device to make FULL system backups, in case something goes wrong or you want to try out that new experimental ROM/theme. NANDroid will backup (and restore) /system, /data, /cache, and /boot partitions.
Recovery Mode → A special environment that you can boot into for troubleshooting and upgrading purposes.
Kang → The process of creating a code based of someone else's code or reapplying code that someone else created into your own code (e.g. git cherry-pick)
Rooting → is a process that allows users of mobile phones and other devices running the Android operating system to attain privileged control (known as "root access") within Android's Linux subsystem with the goal of overcoming limitations that carriers and manufacturers put on some devices.
How to root ANY US VERSION ON MAC
How To root At&t Samsung Galaxy S III I747 No Tripping Flash Counter
How TO ROOT USING SNAPDRAGON TOOL KIT!
How To Install ClockWorkMod Recovery!
How To upgrade ClowckWorkMod Recovery!
HOW TO UNROOT & FACTORY RESET YOUR SGSIII
How TO Flash ROMS!
How TO Back up Rom on Samsung Galaxy III
How to flash themes
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Thanks for this thread...this will be my first android phone
I'm switching from iphone 4 to the SGS3, although i'm still eagerly awaiting my phone to arrive at my local BB, i've been reading up on all this stuff as much as i can...
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send2amrish said:
Thanks for this thread...this will be my first android phone
I'm switching from iphone 4 to the SGS3, although i'm still eagerly awaiting my phone to arrive at my local BB, i've been reading up on all this stuff as much as i can...
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Same here. Nice to have all of this info to read up one while I wait for my phone. Hopefully bb will come through soon. Thanks for the Thread!
heya AppDroid.
i lol every time i see my quote in your guides...
Appreciate the effort here....if only there was a way to make the noobs read all this before being allowed to post on the board
Sup Pirateghost!
Well Your Quote explains why we no get update like GNex! SO its great Explanation to NOOBS! lol
But hope you get this phone/already have it! Looking forward to flashing your stuff!
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heya AppDroid.
i lol every time i see my quote in your guides...
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appdroid said:
Sup Pirateghost!
Well Your Quote explains why we no get update like GNex! SO its great Explanation to NOOBS! lol
But hope you get this phone/already have it! Looking forward to flashing your stuff!
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Sorry, I don't have it and don't plan on buying another device off contract until the next nexus.
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Noob here. I plan on switching from a 3gs iPhone (AT&T) I've had for about 2.5 years. Had a few questions.
What's the deal with the micro sim? Will I just need to cut my old one down to size (i've seen the tutorials) or will I need to transfer to the new one they provide?
I don't plan on doing any rooting but I did see a thread about removing unnecessary processes to free up RAM and would like to do this if it is simple. Any advice/recommendations on how to do this without getting too detailed?
Lastly, for those that may have already done the switch or anyone else who would know, what are some of the most important changes I will have to get used to coming from the iPhone? What is the coolest thing I didn't have before? What are some of the first things a noob should do to his phone to make it "better" without getting crazy. I'm not a developer or specialized in computers or code or anything. Just someone looking for a few ideas. Thanks!!
PS thanks for the noob forum
If you're referring to this thread, then you would need to root the device to accomplish what he's detailing there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1726842
Not sure how I missed that. Guess I'll have to look into rooting.
Spoonman87 said:
Not sure how I missed that. Guess I'll have to look into rooting.
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If that's your only reason for rooting, then it may interest you to know that in Android 4.0 they introduced the concept of disabling system apps. It'll still take up disk space (which is negligible compared to the 16 or 32 GB availalbe), but it won't be allowed to run (no RAM usage) and it will be removed from the app list. So, it will be as if it's uninstalled.
So that's probably a better option if this was your only reason for rooting.
There are plenty of other reasons to root though, but I'll leave you to discover those for yourself. Personally, I value my 1 year Verizon warranty. So I wait until my second year to root.
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If that's your only reason for rooting, then it may interest you to know that in Android 4.0 they introduced the concept of disabling system apps. It'll still take up disk space (which is negligible compared to the 16 or 32 GB availalbe), but it won't be allowed to run (no RAM usage) and it will be removed from the app list. So, it will be as if it's uninstalled.
So that's probably a better option if this was your only reason for rooting.
There are plenty of other reasons to root though, but I'll leave you to discover those for yourself. Personally, I value my 1 year Verizon warranty. So I wait until my second year to root.
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Good to know. Thanks!
Where is the ...
Okay, on a very serious note ...
Where is the post on what to do in case you run out of toilet paper? Well? Well? Come on, this is very important.
Peter
ok! where to even start...
I like many got this 2in1 at wal-mart and I live it. unfortunately I like many am not yet familiar with the new UEFI bootloader bios SOC stuff
heres what I do know and please correct me if im wrong. also please tell me if this 2 in 1 is and can be flashed the same as the asus t100
ok the Flexx11 has a bayntrail-t CR quad core processor 1.33-1.83ghz model Z3735F the t100 is3740
11.6" screen ips touchscreen at 1366x768 res
Efun is the corp and yifang vers.NX1106.1.02.008\139
THE BIOS IS YFG0315009112
it is a 32bit EFI bootloader
the reason I mention all of this is I have tried several times to dualboot androoid and each time ruined the computer and had to return it and I simply no longer wish to return it and love it to much to get something else
the first try the time began to lag and was unfixable for some reason the second time i somehow lost the keys booting and formatted wrong or something and the tablet bricked it would remain black with keyboard lit and no button combo could get it back no boot at all.
I am currently using AMIDUOS to run android kitkat and I love it but from what I understand it isnt compatible with win10 and really still isnt the same as the full android being on the tablet although really really close and awesome
but honestly I have been doing this stuff for years and now with this new windows secure boot and system on a chip stuff im lost
ever get anywhere with this?
I'm curious as well.
It has to be possible. I say that because I recently owned a ChuWi dual-boot device with the same Baytrail processor and SOC.
I wonder if it wouldn't be possible to take a system dump from one of the chuwi dualboot devices and flash it to the nextbook.
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I'm also interested in doing this. It appears that the Nextbook Ares has the same hardware (minus 1GB RAM) but has Android. I contacted Nextbook to see if I could get a copy of the Ares Android firmware but was denied. If someone with the Ares could upload a backup that would be helpful.
I was finally able to get this working using this method...
https://hitricks.com/guide-how-to-dual-boot-remix-os-with-windows-uefi-legacy
So far I was able to get it to boot from a partition on the main drive as a test. In the process of installing to a secondary partition on my sd card. We'll see how it goes.
I wasnt able to get the boot menu that he shows but after going through the steps I then had an Android OS boot option in the bios boot menu. Pretty awesome! Runs great. Tried running Dead Trigger 2 as a test with full graphics. Ran perfectly.
I just bought one of these yesterday, and it shipped with Windows 10 Home 32-bit. I'm trying to install the 64-bit version but it won't boot from USB. Turns out it doesn't support 64-bit OSes. Where can I find recovery images for this? I messed up and now I don't have audio or touchscreen drivers.
64 bit processor?
I just bought one of these yesterday, and it shipped with Windows 10 Home 32-bit. I'm trying to install the 64-bit version but it won't boot from USB. Turns out it doesn't support 64-bit OSes. Where can I find recovery images for this? I messed up and now I don't have audio or touchscreen drivers.
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Alright, I'm slightly confused now. Looking at system specs for mine it says it has an x64 based processor. Doesn't that mean it should be able to handle 64-bit OS? Even though it comes with 32-bit? If possible I would like to put 64-bit on it as well, but I'd like to be sure that that's not going to break it.
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Alright, I'm slightly confused now. Looking at system specs for mine it says it has an x64 based processor. Doesn't that mean it should be able to handle 64-bit OS? Even though it comes with 32-bit? If possible I would like to put 64-bit on it as well, but I'd like to be sure that that's not going to break it.
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It just won't boot the USB. At all. Unless it's 32-bit.
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I was finally able to get this working using this method...
https://hitricks.com/guide-how-to-dual-boot-remix-os-with-windows-uefi-legacy
So far I was able to get it to boot from a partition on the main drive as a test. In the process of installing to a secondary partition on my sd card. We'll see how it goes.
I wasnt able to get the boot menu that he shows but after going through the steps I then had an Android OS boot option in the bios boot menu. Pretty awesome! Runs great. Tried running Dead Trigger 2 as a test with full graphics. Ran perfectly.
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I'm loving Remix OS on here with dual boot. Having some issues though and I really want this to work.
Main and I mean main issue is no sound at all, no rotation is next in line and Bluetooth isn't working. Everything else works great.
This is so awesome its like Android lollipop with windows desktop functionality. Now if I can get the bugs fixed I will be in android hog heaven.
GREAT FIND BRO!!!!! EXACTLY what I was looking for maybe even better than.
for those interested here is the XDA section for all things REMIX OS
http://forum.xda-developers.com/remix
By the way for those who may want to know I installed dual boot onto the hard drive it went with no issues.Here's some tips for flexx 11
1. I used a partition manager such as easy partition manager to partition the C: drive regardless of what the tutorial said. Couldn't use windows disk management. I deleted the recovery for an extra 5 gigs (make a backup if you do) I used about 19 gigs from the C: drive and made an E: NTFS.
2.Also do not use the remix files from that tutorial use the ones here from the main site http://www.jide.com/remixos-for-pc they are newer and the ones from the other post where incomplete. Also the newer ones on the site now include OTA updating which is totally awesome.
3. I'm hoping this will help someone..... After I was all finished I expected it to dual boot as any other dual boot restart and then i would see options for the OS's not the case here I got stuck on this I was using easy BCD and trying all sorts of stuff, once I looked at the tut a little closer I realized you don't need any of that. Once your all done do a restart and it will go back to windows as usual. Now go to settings, then recovery, then advanced startup and choose from devices I think its the second option on the left list. There you will find Android OS click that and it will take you to your dual boot options. Sounds a lot more complicated than it really is. But believe me once you know this your better off.
And that's all I've got please and I mean please post here with any fixes especially for sound and if you have questions I will try to help.
Thanks
PS: I AM GETTING OCASIONAL LOCK UPS, MEANING THE OS FREEZES AND I HAVE TO RESTART BY HOLDING POWER.
Im not sure if this is good news or not...
Using the methos outlined I was not able to get audio bluetooth autorotate and other things to work but after a bit of digging I found out that remix os has an image specifically for nextbook baaytrail (Our PC) here: http://www.jide.com/remixos/devices
click other upper left.....
I cannot find instructions to install this though and using the other install instructions from here fail because the only part of the file to replace is the system image.
I also attempted the other install methods and easy BCD does not work for this PC
So if anyone can help to install this file specifically for our computer as well as verify that it works and what works and how you installed would be great
OK this is really cool I have made headway sort of.
I have installed kit kat android-x86-4.4-r3.img using the Androidx86-Installv24-5800.exe installer and i have rotation, root and it works pretty good for the most part wifi works great so far no bluetooth, it freezes during shut down and the major issue as in most cases is the sound. Im not sure about the camera now that I think about but i will check and report back here.
I really want the sound working on this and I woud be bigtime happy this forum could be solved as far as im concerned
From what I understand there is a bug with baytrail and linux where the spp port is pointed automatically to the usb or something. but for the life of me after weeks of scouring the internet cannot find a laymens guide to a simple fix for this. I'm really not even sure there is one because I'm yet find a rock solid confirmation of a solution
Update: camera doesn't work either
So far the 4.4.3 port is the best. I just can't seem to find any help whatsoever so its looking like so close yet so far away. Its a pure shame that audio and a few other major bugs are the only things in the way of this being a fully working and easy dual boot method.
I have bought a nextbook flexx10 but am unable to install remix OS. I have followed all the steps highlighted before.
1. partitioned the drive with gparted to make a 10G NTFS drive
2. downloaded android x86 5.1.1 iso and remix iso from jide website.
3. used android installer and android 5.1.1 iso to install the image
4. used 7zip to uncompress the remix iso
5. then copied over the 4 necessary files from remix to the drive to the android drive
6. copied over grub.cfg
Now, I do see the entry for androidOS but when I select that, I just get a message at the center of my screen that says "AndroidOS boot failed" and a blue OK button in DOS like font. thats it.. I am interested in knowing if any additional BIOS settings needs to be tweaked.
furthermore, I have tried installing android x86 6.0 by formating the same partition as ext4. All proceeded well and i got to the last screen that said "Run android-x86 now" or reboot. I removed the USB and was able to get into android. (some missing functionality). But when i reboot into windows and try to boot into androis, I get the same message of Andoid boot failed..
Thus I need to know if there's some BIOS settings related to permissions or sorts that i'm missing.
thanks
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I have bought a nextbook flexx10 but am unable to install remix OS. I have followed all the steps highlighted before.
1. partitioned the drive with gparted to make a 10G NTFS drive
2. downloaded android x86 5.1.1 iso and remix iso from jide website.
3. used android installer and android 5.1.1 iso to install the image
4. used 7zip to uncompress the remix iso
5. then copied over the 4 necessary files from remix to the drive to the android drive
6. copied over grub.cfg
Now, I do see the entry for androidOS but when I select that, I just get a message at the center of my screen that says "AndroidOS boot failed" and a blue OK button in DOS like font. thats it.. I am interested in knowing if any additional BIOS settings needs to be tweaked.
furthermore, I have tried installing android x86 6.0 by formating the same partition as ext4. All proceeded well and i got to the last screen that said "Run android-x86 now" or reboot. I removed the USB and was able to get into android. (some missing functionality). But when i reboot into windows and try to boot into androis, I get the same message of Andoid boot failed..
Thus I need to know if there's some BIOS settings related to permissions or sorts that i'm missing.
thanks
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Sorry for the late reply, use the installer and create a separate drive using C: like a D: or E: and get android 4.4 the .IMG that should work for you and the installer should do everything for you.
So use the uefi android installer after you partition a drive to load android 4.4 the uefi IMG
Its just going to piss you off though because there's no audio and seemingly no way to fix it, which is a crying shame ��
P.S. typically secure boot is off in the bios on this machine, but if by any chance you turned it on or the newer ones come that way make sure it is off or this will not work.
UEFI Settings
So I can get to a menu with 6 icons (2 rows and 3 columns) by running the "shutdown.exe /r /o" command and then going to Troubleshoot>Advanced Options>UEFI Firmware Settings and clicking restart. The problem is that when I get to this menu the touchscreen and keyboard do not work, and I can only move the highlighter up and down, not left and right. Hopefully one you guys have figured this out. I contacted the Nextbook support desk and they were no help at all.
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So I can get to a menu with 6 icons (2 rows and 3 columns) by running the "shutdown.exe /r /o" command and then going to Troubleshoot>Advanced Options>UEFI Firmware Settings and clicking restart. The problem is that when I get to this menu the touchscreen and keyboard do not work, and I can only move the highlighter up and down, not left and right. Hopefully one you guys have figured this out. I contacted the Nextbook support desk and they were no help at all.
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Okay. So I was able to test this one of my co workers Nextbook and it seems like its a problem with mine.
This might be beneficial for us Flexx 11 users. It's a full port of Remix 2.0 to the Ares 8 with everything working except the camera rotation issue. Very promising. I've heard the hardware is similar. Working on attempting to install on mine. Anyone else tried it?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/remix/supported-devices/port-remix-os-2-0-nextbook-ares-8-t3498015
Hey guys,
NextBook Flexx 11, 64Gb, NXW116QC264, Windows 10
I'm really interested in trying to install Remix OS in Dual boot. However, in my trials, I goofed up my tablet. I found an image, but it turned out to be a Windows 8.1 image, and it wiped everything from my tablet. I had originally had Windows 10 on it.
Could someone perhaps be able to send me the recovery partition of their Nextbook; as long as they had Win10 installed. Maybe if I dump a Win10 recovery partition, I can do a repair on it and restore Win10 to the system.
I can't find the stock/factory rom for the Win10 version of the Flexx.
Thanks in advance,
Kori
KorishanTalshin said:
Hey guys,
NextBook Flexx 11, 64Gb, NXW116QC264, Windows 10
I'm really interested in trying to install Remix OS in Dual boot. However, in my trials, I goofed up my tablet. I found an image, but it turned out to be a Windows 8.1 image, and it wiped everything from my tablet. I had originally had Windows 10 on it.
Could someone perhaps be able to send me the recovery partition of their Nextbook; as long as they had Win10 installed. Maybe if I dump a Win10 recovery partition, I can do a repair on it and restore Win10 to the system.
I can't find the stock/factory rom for the Win10 version of the Flexx.
Thanks in advance,
Kori
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Just to be clear...(and this goes for everyone wondering in the future) it was windows 10, from the factory??? Last i checked
they only shipped with windows 8.1 or android, depending on the model...If not and you put windows 10 on there, back when it was free, you just use the media creation tool from Microsoft to update windows 8.1 to Windows 10 (after restoring windows 8.1)... it can do this because most tablets have unchangeable hardware, so no cd key is required...it's like how your md5 hash verifies your downloaded files, Windows provides Microsoft with your hardwares md5 hash signature and if it is in the list, then it activates the pc/tablet... but, it only works if you got it free, not if you bought it... if you bought win10 then you will need your cd-key when you re-install, while the other steps are same as above... just note, that for the free upgrade there was NO cd-key, therefore in that instance, if it asked you for a key, you would leave it blank, which you can do in any case, and add your key in from Windows if needed...
And... as for the others having sound issues in Android, I read something about a reason for that having to do with something called an... 'audio stack', I think it was??? Not 100% sure what it meant, but basically, it is designed so the audio hardware only works in windows, I think... (so they can make more money, by making you buy the android tablet separately...)
hope this helps someone who stumbles upon this thread...
Wiebenor said:
Just to be clear...(and this goes for everyone wondering in the future) it was windows 10, from the factory??? Last i checked
they only shipped with windows 8.1 or android, depending on the model...If not and you put windows 10 on there, back when it was free, you just use the media creation tool from Microsoft to update windows 8.1 to Windows 10 (after restoring windows 8.1)... it can do this because most tablets have unchangeable hardware, so no cd key is required...it's like how your md5 hash verifies your downloaded files, Windows provides Microsoft with your hardwares md5 hash signature and if it is in the list, then it activates the pc/tablet... but, it only works if you got it free, not if you bought it... if you bought win10 then you will need your cd-key when you re-install, while the other steps are same as above... just note, that for the free upgrade there was NO cd-key, therefore in that instance, if it asked you for a key, you would leave it blank, which you can do in any case, and add your key in from Windows if needed...
And... as for the others having sound issues in Android, I read something about a reason for that having to do with something called an... 'audio stack', I think it was??? Not 100% sure what it meant, but basically, it is designed so the audio hardware only works in windows, I think... (so they can make more money, by making you buy the android tablet separately...)
hope this helps someone who stumbles upon this thread...
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I realize this is a dead thread, but I had to chime in... I bought my NextBook Flexx 11 from Walmart 3 or 4 years ago and it shipped with Windows 10 Home, not Windows 8.1... However, IMHO, Windows 10 is a resource hog on this little device. I'm currently looking in to installing Linux...
A brief history:
Several weeks ago my stock Gingerbread G2's touchscreen started dying. Replacing the touchscreen didn't solve the problem. I was able to continue using it via the keyboard for a little while and, in the meantime, enabled USB Debugging (thank the stars!) while I waited for a replacement phone to arrive. I could still access some functions using the keyboard & thumbpad, although usability was limited due to the inability to back out of an application. Cue lots of battery pulls to restart at the homescreen (a pox on designers who forget one of the fundamental rules of UI: It should always be possible to go back using the current input device!).
Then the screen started a somewhat frazzled HTC image loop during boot, shortly after I started testing ADB & fastboot. Curiously it was still booting the underlying OS, as evidenced by the various chimes telling me I had messages etc, and I could still access it via ADB.
My new phone arrived (a Sony Xperia Z3 Compact. I still would prefer a proper keyboard though. Another pox on designers/manufactures who focus on marketing fads instead of functionality. I don't give a rat's arse if my phone is only 2.48291mm thick and has a screen the size of my 1st laptop. I want something small enough to use in one hand, and that has a hardware keyboard) & happily downloaded my contacts from the Borg....I mean, Google, but not notes or SMS/MMS etc. Leading to today....
I tried Sony's transfer app, but without screen viewing let alone touchscreen ability it wouldn't work (PC version, due Android version on the problem phone wasn't acceptable). Ditto problems with other root exploits. Even trying to use a recovery image on the SD card wouldn't work due to the non-root status. The recovery menu would only accept a stock image. An overriding consideration was that I didn't want to just gain root by what ever method, but I wanted to preserve my notes & sms/mms data, so fastbooting a factory image wasn't satisfactory - as far as I could tell, that would delete everything. After over a week of 0300, 0400, 0530 bed times while reading & trying the methods given in some huuuge number of XDA threads and some other websites, last night I was able to get temp root using the fre3vo exploit! Yay! At one point I had 70 threads open. It was an XDA-dev. thread that gave me the exploit though. Still couldn't do a simple Linux/Unix cp command in ADB shell to save the data but at least the file system was accessible now. Bloody frustrating!
Anyway, a bit more Googling & XDA-ing to find file locations & command formats and tonight I was able to use the ADB pull command to download the whole of the /data directory to my PC. Data saved! Even better, the Linux distro on my PC already has SQlite software to open the files. Even more yay!
I haven't tried to upload to my Xperia Z3C, but I will soon. Meanwhile my data is now available in my PC so phone access isn't as important anymore.
Some thoughts on what I went through:
Manufacturers: You do your customers a vast dis-service by making it so hard to salvage the data.
Service providers: Ditto, due to your insistance on locking down the system on the phones you sell
XDA contributers: I couldn't have done this without you, however.....it would have been easier if you *always* specified what would change/be wiped when you describe your exploit/change/recovery process. I was hesitant to try some methods due to not knowing if my data would be wiped in the process.
And after all that: Who the hell would ever want a phone that wasn't rooted? I don't even install Linux OS on my systems unless root can be gained (Ubuntu & Mint, I'm looking at you! Sudo isn't sufficient...) so I've learnt a lesson on my phone. If only I'd rooted it while it was still fully functional!
Next task? Rooting my Z3C before something goes ' bzzzzt!' on it!
...onto this device? It's the perfect size for an ARM laptop and Arch Linux is a great Linux distro too. I'm helping some devs port/get running natively Arch Linux ARM on the semi-ancient/underrated HP TouchPad from 2011. If it could run natively on this tablet, then I'd highly consider getting it to play with it on it.
I'm looking to do this also, I just rooted my pixel and tried "Linux Deploy" but it failed at "mounting /dev/loop0", looks like the stock kernel doesn't support mounting loop devices so this will be impossible until we get a new kernel.
edit: /dev/loop0 exists so I don't know why mounting fails...
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So I've finally got it to install Ubuntu! Here's the steps I took to get it to install successfully:
First mount the system partition as read/write and generate /etc/mtab by accessing the shell and switching to the root account and typing mount -o remount,rw /system; cat /proc/mounts > /etc/mtab
Then install Meefik's (the guy that created LinuxDeploy) version of BusyBox (Stericon's version apparently doesn't have the ar command)
In LinuxDeploy's settings, change the BusyBox Directory to /data/data/ru.meefik.busybox/files/bin and hit Update Environment
After that, go into the preferences and select Ubuntu, then whatever version you want, and ARM64 instead of ARMHF and hit Install and let it finish. If it screws up and you need to re-attempt the installation process make sure to delete /etc/mtab and regenerate it, otherwise LinuxDeploy will think the /sdcard/linux.img file is already mounted, fail and won't tell you why. This kept screwing me up for a while also.
it's interesting that your ubuntu is arm64 and not armhf. i can't understand how that would work. i have a nvidia tx1 which runs armhf ubuntu 14.04 so i would have guessed that the pixel would be the same. i guess i need to read into linuxdeploy a bit and see what that is about.
It's ARM64 because the Tegra X1 is a 64 bit processor ARMHF will work too. All it does it create a chroot easily, a little difficult to look deep into it because a large amount of it is done using a binary he created.
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So I've finally got it to install Ubuntu! Here's the steps I took to get it to install successfully:
First mount the system partition as read/write and generate /etc/mtab by accessing the shell and switching to the root account and typing mount -o remount,rw /system; cat /proc/mounts > /etc/mtab
Then install Meefik's (the guy that created LinuxDeploy) version of BusyBox (Stericon's version apparently doesn't have the ar command)
In LinuxDeploy's settings, change the BusyBox Directory to /data/data/ru.meefik.busybox/files/bin and hit Update Environment
After that, go into the preferences and select Ubuntu, then whatever version you want, and ARM64 instead of ARMHF and hit Install and let it finish. If it screws up and you need to re-attempt the installation process make sure to delete /etc/mtab and regenerate it, otherwise LinuxDeploy will think the /sdcard/linux.img file is already mounted, fail and won't tell you why. This kept screwing me up for a while also.
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How is everything working out so far? I'm tempted to pop the screen off mine when it shows up to flip a switch for some chrome os fun (if I can figure out a way to do it gracefully) but might also just roll with ubuntu. Really interested in hearing how your experience has been... Thanks for sharing.
Youre welcome! I did it just for the hell of it, haven't really used it much since I got it working. A native install would be much better, I plan on seeing if I can get it to connect to a local X server, VNC works but Ive always found it to be odd when controlling the cursor. I always install Linux on my Android devices just because I can, once I have it working I'm like "now what can I use it for?" and I always come to the same conclusion, pretty much all the stuff I want to do in Linux I can do in Android lol Also since I've been at my parents all week since I've figured this out I don't have my Bluetooth keyboard which has a trackpad, which would make navigation far easier than controlling the cursor with the touchscreen. Since I have it working now with LXDE I may try to install KDE on it and then install virt-manager as an easy GUI way for me to control my KVMs since doing it via SSH is kind of a pain in the a$$ and the only Android app just allows you to start and stop your domains.
If you are actually ballsy enough to pop the screen off and flip the dev switch on yours you'd probably be praised far and wide since no one has done it yet hahaha
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Youre welcome! I did it just for the hell of it, haven't really used it much since I got it working. A native install would be much better, I plan on seeing if I can get it to connect to a local X server, VNC works but Ive always found it to be odd when controlling the cursor. I always install Linux on my Android devices just because I can, once I have it working I'm like "now what can I use it for?" and I always come to the same conclusion, pretty much all the stuff I want to do in Linux I can do in Android lol Also since I've been at my parents all week since I've figured this out I don't have my Bluetooth keyboard which has a trackpad, which would make navigation far easier than controlling the cursor with the touchscreen. Since I have it working now with LXDE I may try to install KDE on it and then install virt-manager as an easy GUI way for me to control my KVMs since doing it via SSH is kind of a pain in the a$$ and the only Android app just allows you to start and stop your domains.
If you are actually ballsy enough to pop the screen off and flip the dev switch on yours you'd probably be praised far and wide since no one has done it yet hahaha
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I've only seen one paywalled teardown so far in some brief searching to give any hints / clues. After seeing cheep5k8's posts my interest has peaked and I am digging your posts as well. I need to run through the chromium os git and doc stuffs first before I fire up my heat gun and spudgers though...
Hi !
Me too i'm interessed on a linux instalation for my "ryu"
...Pretty interessed on ubuntu touch : the Pixel C seems to be the perfect item for the distro to combine tablet and pc in one.
Sadly i'm not a developper, but i hope somebody will think like me ^^
will this work with ARM64 Fedora GNU/Linux? or are there special instructions for that?
I have been working on this, please see http://forum.xda-developers.com/pix...ux-pixel-c-running-ubuntu-xenial-lxc-t3410655 if you want to run ubuntu xenial on pixel C
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will this work with ARM64 Fedora GNU/Linux? or are there special instructions for that?
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I was just using whatever distros were provided by Linux Deploy, half of them don't work anyway, for example Arch. I was only successful with Ubuntu IIRC.
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For those who are interested :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4B8unHrbZK4
Weston and XWayland are running quite well on Pixel C (without acceleration until now)
I will try to publish something quite soon (there are still stabilities issues)
Since this Defy Forum is getting a bit old, I thought I'd give my recent experience with my defy. This is quite a lengthy thread but there is so much information on this forum that it becomes confusing so thought I'd share my experience so you can cut through a lot of the information. I've had my defy for over 5 years with the stock froyo 2.2.2 and its served me well until recently its beginning to bug me with how laggy it is. Also I wasn't sure if the battery was running out a faster than it used to.
The first thing I thought I'd do is do a factory reset which I successfully did however when I went to put back on some of the apps that I had before such as Runkeeper, Telstra 24/7 and RSA Security token, none of them were compatible with my old phone. I was able to find old versions of some of the apps but not Telstra 24/7 which I use to recharge. At this point I decided on installing a custom rom which I'd done before on other devices. If it didn't work out then phones with the same specs were selling for $29 at a local supermarket so no real damage if I get it wrong.
The first thing was to root the phone which I found something called Superoneclick. I had to turn off my antivirus on my PC use it as there are some files that appear corrupt but doing some searching gave me confidence it was just an overzealous AVG and appeared safe.
Once this was done it was a matter of picking a Rom which I went for CM11 Kit Kat it seemed ok but not heaps better. The thing was I'd now picked up a real battery problem. I tried various Calibration apps to no avail. My battery was experiencing quite large drops of 20% ie it would go from 89% to 50% and then later from about 35% to 20%. It would then stay on 1% for quite some time.
Thinking this was due to the ROM, I tried several ROMs but they all had the same problem. Eventually i found a thread on the battery problem and although I didn't change all the permissions as advised I did so some of the other stuff to no avail.
At this stage I thought my main issue was now the battery and thought I'd read someone that perhaps a stock based rom might sort it out. I installed MS4Ginger which was really smooth however was still a bit laggy at times. Also I noticed that it wasn't able to support various apps being Android 2.3. After a bit more reading, my minimum requirement was Jellybean 4.1 and I'd read that the more recent the ROM the more RAM intensive so I decided to try ROMs with my minimum requirement ie 4.1
I'm not a fan particularly the way the Cyanogen type rom look so was looking for something with a different look and feel. The main ones were:-
Miui based ones (Wiui, Jiui) which I quite liked however lag was still there and the occasional sudden reboot. Battery problem still there.
Xperia ROM which was also nice but also did a sudden reboot then stuck in a bootloop.
There was still lag which I couldn't really understand.
Last Rom I tried was Motor Gun Ice 4.1, it still had the Cyanogen look about it but seemed to run pretty smooth. One thing I had to do was change the Baseband to Telstra in the 'Advanced' section of settings. This made the phone and internet connection work faster.
At this point I ordered a new battery. While I was waiting for that to arrive I read that Facebook app is really bad at taking up RAM. In found another app called Facebook lite and uninstalled the standard Facebook app. All of a sudden Lag Fixed.
This got me searching other 'Lite' apps. Now for web browsing i use Opera Mini and the launcher I now use is Holo Launcher. I also tried to find a replacement for Messenger but no luck and its not been an issue.
So now my phone is running better than ever. Web searching is fast and apps are running well, not that I use my phone for much more than a phone.
A few days later my new battery arrived and comparing to the old one, it appeared that the old one had a slight bulge. I charged the new one right up, discharged and charged again and now no more battery drops.
One last tweak I wanted was to try change the status bar icons. I found Xposed Installer and was able to change the icon colours to white but not the icon pictures. Good enough for me.
So now I'm very happy with my 5 year old defy, took a bit of trial and error but got there in the end. So in a nutshell: -
- If your battery is dropping upon installation of a Rom, likely need a new battery.
- If you phone is lagging, look what is taking all the Ram and look for a lite option or uninstall. Facebook is bad for that.
Note that there are many old links to roms and other mods so finding things that work was at times a challenge but here's the process that I found worked for me and works if bricked as well, which I did a couple of times.
If Bricked or to get back to stock
Download RSD Lite
Install drivers for the phone
Download an SBF for your region, I used Telstra with 2.2.2
To install custom rom
Install and use Superoneclick to root (may need to turn off antivirus)
Install 2ndinit.apk then run it. May need to reboot phone first
Download the Rom and Gapps and put on SD card of phone
Get into custom recovery
Wipe Data and Cache
Install Rom and Gapps
Wipe Cache and Dalvik Cache (for all but one Rom, I forget which one, read instructions)
Reboot and enjoy.
the gun rom link is down, where you downloaded it?
That was one of the few that worked. I accessed from the defy wiki page then I think downloaded from the XDA thread.
Yep, there some links in the last post of the MG ROM thread. Post #222.
Good someone still use defy. I give up after digitizer gone mad. Time run over this device... Uuuh, just if it had 1 gb ram and dual core...
Good to hear that someone else still have this cute little thing. I have too, as my second device. The ROMs I tried on this device! Man, it's countless. I had dropped it on all the different terrains you can think of, yet it's still fully healthy (save the jack and usb covers - they are loose now) without a single crack. I didn't have any covers or screen guards. It stayed true to its name. I will never regret spending money to buy this, it is one of Moto's legendary devices. I think I'm drunk, but it feels good to say all this. I'll keep this device forever with me - a product from a time when smartphones weren't made in an oven, but carefully and delicately cooked up.
Digitizer gone mad me too, the upper line is not working, but it is a good phone, for kids.
Which seller you order the battery?
Can you suggest ROMs to watch videos on Kodi, or Youtube?
I liked this phone, this is the best size phone, what i ever had.
Why the companys not make phone like this size, one hand controlled, with 2GB/32GB, and quad cpu??
Now i have Samsung S4 mini, and it is big for me
Battery was off eBay, can't remember seller but was Australian selling genuine batteries.
Just try all the roms possible, that's part of the fun
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I've been wanting to play around w/ my old defy again. This thread may have got the ball rolling. What do you all use as your daily driver? I've got a xperia z3 compact, but want a new phone. unfortunately, I think my best bet is to just get another z3 compact cheap and save it as a backup?
Hi tronjojo, I was still using my Defy until recently I found an old 4 year old Samsung Galaxy SII of my wife's. The problem for her was that it was switching off all the time so she got an S5. I've now flashed various roms and fixed the random reboot issue. The only thing I wish it has is the notification LED.
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I bougnt a Defy + battery on my Defy Red Lens, made my own BL7 fixed SBF and nandroid with 720p patch which made it a Defy Plus, then I rooted it and repartitioned to install CM11 and has made it very usable in 2016.
Make that Defy in 2018
I'm still using a Defy, since 2011. The battery still lasts longer than that in my wife's new Sony Experia X Compact, about as long as in my daughter's Xiaomi Redmi 4X. I will probably have to move to another device somewhere in 2018 as one of the more important apps - the Swedish BankID app - will cease support for Android 4.4 but that is more or less the only reason. For the rest the thing still does what it did 7 years ago so were it not for this I'd keep on using it until it gave up from sheer old age or electron migration or whatnot.
Make that Defy in 2020
I've recently tried if my Defy+ could learn some new tricks and I thought I'd share my findings.
CM11 build
I tried to build CM11 from Quarx repository, but it seems that many of its dependencies no longer exist and whole project is no longer buildable.
3.0 kernel
This one builds fine, however I was unable to boot it - there's one frame or random pixels followed by a reboot. I checked many branches and put the output into most probable directories. I wish there were any instructions as to what actually do with a built kernel. TWRP zips found here didn't work either. Anyone?
SD card size
Defy supposedly shouldn't work with SD cards larger than 32GB. But did anyone try bigger cards? My Defy mounts 256GB cards without any problems.
Debian on chroot
I set up a Debian environment with debootstrap. Unfortunately outdated kernel puts a limit on a Debian version that could be run. For 2.6.32.9 it is Debian Jessie.
With XServer XSDL it is possible to run a full graphical environment.
2.6.32.9 kernel modules
I also succeeded with building kernel modules for the old kernel. These are mostly filesystem modules and cryptographic ciphers. Now I could use whole Debian Jessie repository (49GB) locally from a squashfs filesystem.
Another nice feature is encryption with dm-crypt/LUKS.
I uploaded modules that insmod loads without any error.
CA certificates
These should be updated with system updates, but we won't have new CM/Lineage/stock releases anymore, so I did it by hand. If you want to try it for yourself, remount /system as writable, remove contents of /system/etc/security/cacerts/ (they could be expired) and copy certificates from the archive. Certificates are same as Debian's ca-certificates version 20200601.
Mirror
I also uploaded tools and images - self contained with instructions to go back and forth between stock and CM11, because many links here are spread across many threads or simply dead. Kernel modules and certificates are for CM11. I didn't try them with anything else.
I can't post a link to these files, because this is my first post. Search for ybea in Motorola Defy section at AndroidFileHost.
Another 2020 Defy warrior
ybea said:
3.0 kernel
This one builds fine, however I was unable to boot it - there's one frame or random pixels followed by a reboot. I checked many branches and put the output into most probable directories. I wish there were any instructions as to what actually do with a built kernel. TWRP zips found here didn't work either. Anyone?
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Hello! Did you check on /bootstrap/bootstrap/binary and other folders? There seem to be a zImage (and the recovery one).
I tried to flash and boot the ROM at http://blechdose-live.de/download/kernel/3.0.x/:
Tried flashing from TWRP 2.8: failed.
Extracted the update-binary, copied it to /tmp and executed it from ADB shell (/tmp/update-binary 3 0 /sdcard/cm11-blah.zip) and flashed with some things, mostly partition related errors. After rebooting, it stays on black screen (turned on), ADB available but unauthorised (just look on Github how to enable ADB from recovery to solve that) and that's all; the ROM doesn't work. I'll try debugging this to check if I can do something.
ybea said:
CM11 build
I tried to build CM11 from Quarx repository, but it seems that many of its dependencies no longer exist and whole project is no longer buildable.
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What a sad thing, this year even quarx2k.ru became offline...
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Hello! Did you check on /bootstrap/bootstrap/binary and other folders?
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Files extracted from 20131213 version did not work for me. I tried swapping /bootstrap/ (and /system/bootstrap/) zImages, binaries, edited cmdline, anything I could think of. Always with the same outcome - black screen.
Flashing in TWRP (v2.6.3.0) initially also failed. Fix_TWRP_and_boot_kernel3.0_v2.zip (on AndroidFileHost) makes it succeed. It is 3.0.8 kernel. It froze during the boot, restarted and finished eventually.
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Files extracted from 20131213 version did not work for me. I tried swapping /bootstrap/ (and /system/bootstrap/) zImages, binaries, edited cmdline, anything I could think of. Always with the same outcome - black screen.
Yeah, it did the same for me. Did you read the logcat while device was in that screen? I saw something crashing there (can't remember), anyway that's not so useful if you need a whole new ROM just for the new kernel version. Maybe modules are causing problems?
Pretty offtopic, did you try the OTG function? I can't get it to work, most people say it should work out of the box but I wasn't able to use my USB mouse. Didn't check dmesg, though.
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Always with the same outcome - black screen.
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Did you read the logcat while device was in that screen?
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How could I? Android isn't running yet. It it Linux that either fails to load or silently panics. That is my understanding anyway.
The right thing to do would be to check how cm11 build compiles the kernel and the 2nd-init (or whatever it is), but I am not knowledgeable enough, nor keen enough to do that.
OTG is buggy, but usable. If it doesn't work, unplug and plug it again. It is quite normal for my defy to recognize a device on a second or third attempt. No problems with mice, keyboards, flash drives, usb hubs. On the picture in the previous post you can see it with a wireless keyboard+touchpad. If I remember correctly, the driver is set to output 200mAh max. Maybe you mouse draws more (rather unlikely for a mouse). It works for me with cm11-20161124. Also, I think the port outputs 5V even after a device is disconnected, so it unnecessary drains power, but I am not so sure about it.
dmesg should definitely log any new device. Even if android stays quiet. If there's silence, perhaps your cable may of wrong type. USB A to USB micro varies with resistancy across two pins. I don't remember the details. If it is OTG cable, then it should work.
Or simply you have dirty socket/plug pins.
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How could I? Android isn't running yet. It it Linux that either fails to load or silently panics. That is my understanding anyway.
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AFAIK 2ndInit keeps adbd running so you can take a logcat/dmesg from there, also faced the same issue while flashing CM10.2 OTG kernel on CM11 (what was I thinking?) and from there was able to see that something was crashing.
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The right thing to do would be to check how cm11 build compiles the kernel and the 2nd-init (or whatever it is), but I am not knowledgeable enough, nor keen enough to do that.
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Nah, I think just taking some time to understand the 2ndInit boot process is enough, anyway when I get some free time I'll check about this all.
About OTG things, now will install CM11 3.0 kernel and see how it works (I expect some unstability) but don't really need to use the Defy, it's just there for experiments
Anyway, my main goal now is to install Debian natively (on /data partition because of the size) and get X running. As you said, the 2.6.32 kernel puts the limit at Jessie, but that's not a problem as it's still mantained IIRC. I'm using a prebuilt rootfs but it keeps throwing Segmentation Fault whenever I try to chroot there, don't know what happens with this.
I'm doing the same on other 2 phones (Galaxy Y and Pocket Plus, ARMv6 and v7 respectively) but one doesn't boot my compiled kernels (?) and the other complains about the buggy framebuffer driver (thanks Samsung/Broadcom). I went pretty offtopic...
PD: tried to flash some JB Ice Gun Edition v2.02 from CWM and after reboot the phone just is stuck on boot splash, but WIUI runs fine. Maybe the JB IGE BootMenu is broken or something like that.
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About OTG things, now will install CM11 3.0 kernel and see how it works (I expect some unstability)
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I didn't have any luck with flashing zips with only the kernel. This 20131213 rom is the only way i know of. But frankly, there's more instability then stability in it. For example only home and power buttons work. OTG also non functional.
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As you said, the 2.6.32 kernel puts the limit at Jessie, but that's not a problem as it's still mantained IIRC. I'm using a prebuilt rootfs but it keeps throwing Segmentation Fault whenever I try to chroot there, don't know what happens with this.
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Jessie is no longer maintained. It stopped being oldstable about a month ago. AFAIK it changes little - apt continues to work; unless your applications have dependencies to newer libc, they should at least compile.
I build Debian root with debootstrap. On host machine:
Code:
debootstrap --arch armhf --foreign stable /debian http://http.debian.net/debian
Then mounting on Defy:
Code:
# Mount an sd card partition
mount -o remount,rw /
mkdir -p /debian
mount -o remount,ro /
mount -t ext3 -o noatime,suid,exec /dev/block/mmcblk0p2 /debian
mkdir -p /dev/shm
mount -t tmpfs -o rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec none /dev/shm
mount -t proc proc /debian/proc
mount -t sysfs sysfs /debian/sys
mount -o bind /dev /debian/dev
mount -o bind /dev/pts /debian/dev/pts
mount -o bind /dev/socket /debian/dev/socket
mount -o bind /dev/shm /debian/dev/shm
Then debootstrap second stage:
Code:
LD_PRELOAD= TMPDIR= PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin HOME=/root SHELL=/bin/bash /system/bin/chroot /debian /debootstrap/debootstrap --second-stage
Done. To login:
Code:
chroot /debian /bin/su -
Don't chroot into bash. It will leak Android's shell environment into Debian's.
Android has its own groups and users. To make Debian adapt:
Code:
dpkg -i android-permissions_0.2_all.deb
Edit /etc/group, so that it contains:
Code:
inet:x:3003:root,_apt
net_raw:x:3004:root
Edit /etc/passwd/:
Code:
-_apt:x:104:65534::/nonexistent:/bin/false
+_apt:x:0:65534::/nonexistent:/bin/false
Edit /etc/adduser.conf:
Code:
-LAST_SYSTEM_UID=999
+LAST_SYSTEM_UID=99900
-LAST_SYSTEM_GID=999
+LAST_SYSTEM_GID=99900
-FIRST_UID=5000
+FIRST_UID=500000
-LAST_UID=8999
+LAST_UID=899900
-FIRST_GID=5000
+FIRST_GID=500000
-LAST_GID=8999
+LAST_GID=899900
Then:
Code:
apt-get update
apt-get install dialog
apt-get install locales
dpkg-reconfigure locales
apt-get install less man
If apt can't resolve hostnames select a nameserver in /etc/resolv.conf.
This how I setup Debian on chroot. Some of these steps may be unnecessary - they got accumuated over the years and I don't fully remember reasoning behind them. Debian inside /data/ should work too. I can imagine there would be problems with permissions on fat32 /sdcard, but /data/ is ext3.