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[Q] USB rubber cover firm enough?

Hi all,
I've recently bought a DEFY. It works quite brilliantly and very fast.
I've noticed that the USB rubber cover of my DEFY is not very firm when closed. There is a little seam between it and the phone body, and the seam grows a bit thicker as it approaches the USB port side. I've included some pics of it.
Higher res pics are at
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ishuo.de/images/defy2.jpeg
ishuo.de/images/defy3.jpeg
(Sorry I don't have enough permission to directly link pics here.)
I've also spilled some water onto it under a water tap. When I opened it I could see some water drops on the edge of the inner side of the rubber closer to the back.
I don't know whether this is normal or defect and I'm not sure whether it will stay up against water which is one of its great and practical feature.
Can anyone compare it with yours? Are all DEFYs like this?
Thank loads and happy holidays!
Cheers,
Shuo

When I close mine I am careful to press it in firmly as otherwise it looks "not quite shut." It has to squeeze in there. I presume this what's suppose to keep water out and as I have dunked my phone countless times without incident. However, if you think yours is twisted or bulging when seated, I don't think that's right.

Mine doesn't have that small hump when in place. I think there is some extra rubber under the clip.
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s.yang said:
Hi all,
I've recently bought a DEFY. It works quite brilliantly and very fast.
I've noticed that the USB rubber cover of my DEFY is not very firm when closed. There is a little seam between it and the phone body, and the seam grows a bit thicker as it approaches the USB port side. I've included some pics of it.
Higher res pics are at
ishuo.de/images/defy1.jpeg
ishuo.de/images/defy2.jpeg
ishuo.de/images/defy3.jpeg
(Sorry I don't have enough permission to directly link pics here.)
I've also spilled some water onto it under a water tap. When I opened it I could see some water drops on the edge of the inner side of the rubber closer to the back.
I don't know whether this is normal or defect and I'm not sure whether it will stay up against water which is one of its great and practical feature.
Can anyone compare it with yours? Are all DEFYs like this?
Thank loads and happy holidays!
Cheers,
Shuo
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yeah mines got that, you get the bump when the cover gets bent the other way when you move it to get the usb cable in

After charging mine looks like it will stay with the bulge like that when I put the cover back in place, but even so, I can press it firmly, and it actually snaps into place. Sort of even has a clicking sound. I only started noticing this as before I would press it in even, and the bulge would stay there for a while and slowly smooth itself out, but now if I press it in, and then press my thumb/finger all the way around the cover, it snaps into place very tightly.
EDIT - After looking closely at mine I see the hole is actually at an angle, so pressing it in straight would leave it with the bulge. You need to press it against the angle of the phone for it to snap into place.

bobbyphoenix said:
After looking closely at mine I see the hole is actually at an angle, so pressing it in straight would leave it with the bulge. You need to press it against the angle of the phone for it to snap into place.
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exactly what i was about to say - works for me.

Wow you are so friendly guys.
Thanks lods! I'll look into it when I come back today!

I did get a slight feel of "snap in". Just dunked it shortly into water, and it still lives!
So I guess it's all right.

I get some moisture around the USB plug hole even when the cover is in place as well. Probably not a big deal. You can try using some grease to improve the seal as well.
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One review notes a small amount of "O-ring" sealant or grease around the battery cover rim. I supposed you could add a little. Just don't use vasoline, that's a pertroleum product and will degrade certain types of real and synthetic rubber.

My screen is now Rocking, Worn Pads?

Hey guys
So I have had my Z for 2 weeks and love it for the most part…faster and a crap load more enjoyable than the X10 it replaced. I am having some hardware issues however and was curious if I am alone on this one or others have had the same issue.
The hinge has become pretty loose now and the phone flops open regardless of what side I hold it from but in reality that is somewhat moot as who holds their phone from just one side lol?
The real issue I am having recently is the 6 little rubber stop pads on the underside of the screen’s left side/edge. Now there are 2 thicker rectangular stop pads on the right side’s corners adhered to the phones main body and the 6 little rubber pads on the left are attached to the screen and are there to compensate for the opposite rectangular pads so that the phone has both a buffer and a balance between sides so it sits flush, quiet, and secure.
Well somehow or for some reason those little 6 in a row rectangular pads have either pushed in too far to their respective channel or they have flattened via not regained their density/thickness as now they are flush with the screen’s underside and as a result leave a gap. So when I push, even lightly, on the center to left of the screen is makes a physical and audible click as it teeters down to touch the keyboard underneath and the right side compensates by lifting up and off the 2 corner rubber pads. Essentially the phones center area has become a fulcrum and I am sure that is not healthy on the hinge.
Has anyone else had this odd but irritating issue with theirs or am I alone here?
Perhaps I can try to find a thicker pad I can cut up to replace the strip of 6

I am alone in this one hey?
Lame...technology and I just don't mix!

Udonitron said:
I am alone in this one hey?
Lame...technology and I just don't mix!
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No sir I'm on with you on this one. I started a thread about the annoying teeter or the screen a few weeks ago, and alot of people have it. I dont think its due to the pads, but more on the face of how the hinge is designed. It makes it so the screen doesn't sit flat enough. I know that they wanted to make the htc vision slim, but it caused some problems.
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Interesting!
Thicker pads would remedy it while closed but once opened the thicker pads would not allow the screen to sit flush at the top of the keyboard

yeah, and honestly it hinders the device greatly because its so annoying. Oh well. Its okay! Still a great Phoenix.
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well there's some guy who came up with a DIY fix on the dev section (I think) requires a lot of disassembly but looks worth it. I'd try it myself if I had all the right screw bits.

dietotherhythm said:
well there's some guy who came up with a DIY fix on the dev section (I think) requires a lot of disassembly but looks worth it. I'd try it myself if I had all the right screw bits.
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I think that's only the hinge, not the screen. But I'd do it to if i had them.
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Bummer...I can see this rocking causing stress on the hinges down the road.

Crackling sound while pressing the area of Micro SIM slot?

Good morning,
i´ve to ask the global z1 compact users about the build quality of the devices.
My first device from amazon.de had a crackling sound while pressing the area of the micro SIM card slot - amazon did an instand replace but the replacement unit also started with this issue on day after set up. I think this is not a general fault but i´m a bit angry with this issue on such an premium device.
Can you hear anything when pressing this area? what do you think about that? Will you recharge?
I´ll hope that this is not a problem for water resistance...thinking about the Z in the first times...loosing back panel...

I have this too. It's just a little flexing of the phone frame and I'm not too fussed about it. Actually hadn't noticed it until you pointed out out.
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Mine also does this, but you have to apply more force than I'm comfortable with in order to get any sound
Wouldn't have noticed it all had you not pointed it out

Same here. I had to squeeze quite hard. Should not be a problem as long as you don't use your phone as a jackstand under a car.
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My 10 days old Compact have the same issues. It squeaks when I press it with light force around the edge between the micro sdcard slot and magnetic charging port.
However, the most concerning part is a loose gap between the back side plastic rim join to the metal frame below the magnetic charging port. It is large enough I can fit by finger nail into, and I can see the gap closing by pressing on the metal frame. Normally I would not care so much, but for a water proof phone this is alarming.
Overall, the design of the Compact is poor compared to the Z1. The Z1 never flex or squeaks no matter how much pressure I apply. Also the plastic rim sits inside the metal frame rather than glued on top like the compact.

My screen cracks when I press on the center. Anyone else?

Bigmille said:
My 10 days old Compact have the same issues. It squeaks when I press it with light force around the edge between the micro sdcard slot and magnetic charging port.
However, the most concerning part is a loose gap between the back side plastic rim join to the metal frame below the magnetic charging port. It is large enough I can fit by finger nail into, and I can see the gap closing by pressing on the metal frame. Normally I would not care so much, but for a water proof phone this is alarming.
Overall, the design of the Compact is poor compared to the Z1. The Z1 never flex or squeaks no matter how much pressure I apply. Also the plastic rim sits inside the metal frame rather than glued on top like the compact.
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Mine does the same around the magnetic port... i think maybe its because of the Double sided "tape" that insures the water proofing between the alu and the plastic rim..

Mine has a light gap between plastic back and metal frame(about 1/10mm or less, noticeable only after a very maniacal and close inspection)from micro sd slot to micro sim slot.
The back is not perfectly flat, but isn't a metal frame bending: if placed face down on a table the entire screen touch the surface, leaving face up the corner next micro sim does not touch the surface (barely noticeable: 1/10mm or less). The phone remains waterproof (at least totally submerged on 10cm of water).
Maybe there are few minimal tolerance using flexible material as polycarbonate back, when placed on direct contact of a non-so-flat thing as a battery.
Li-po and li-ion battery doesn't have a surface totally flat, specially on the borders and edges: there are frequently minimal differences and all phones with removable battery have a small gap between battery door and battery filled with some lining to compensate. On Z1 Compact teardown we can se the battery on direct contact of policarbonate rear.
Attenction: this i not a defective battery: a damaged lipo has central rise of several mm not a lateral of 1/10 - 1/20 mm; on side there are simply the "bend" of aluminium sheet and the adhesive label encasing the li-po cell.
The phone works well, looks great and retain the water proof capability.
We are all to apprensive with our new toy

Bigmille said:
However, the most concerning part is a loose gap between the back side plastic rim join to the metal frame below the magnetic charging port. It is large enough I can fit by finger nail into, and I can see the gap closing by pressing on the metal frame.
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Test the impermeability (with the support of a video camera to certify the perfect closing of ports flaps), and if phone retains the waterproof capability you can seal the gap with a application of semiliquid black rubber. Do you have sent the phone to Sony for a replacement? I have sent to Italian support team a mail with some photo (my phone retains the impermeability...or at least is survived to a 2 min submersion and there are no trace of water on humidity sensors presents under connectors ).
If Sony certify this issue as cosmetic only I'll close the gap with rubber.
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[Q] A bright, small spot appears on the screen with slight pressure on back or flexed

Specifically, the spot is just left of mid-line and about a 1/3 of the way up from the bottom in portrait mode. If you have the wallpaper of the quill with the scribble (not the ink well), it is just to left of the quill tip. If I press on the corresponding spot on the back or flex the tablet from the sides a bit, a bright spot appears on lighter backgrounds (it doesn't show on dark backgrounds). A white background is back.
Ok, so everyone is going to say don't push or flex the tablet and I agree However, I bought the MoKo rotating case and when I snap it in firmly, this spot appears. I remove the tablet or loosen up the left side of the case, the spot disappears. The case appears to flex the tablet a bit, causing the display issue. I'm going to give another case a try, but MoKo is really the only rotating case, which I really liked.
Since the back of the tablet is "spongy" in this spot and allows it, I was trying to determine if this is a design issue with all of Note 8's or a manufacturing defect with mine. I went to a big box store to test, but they no longer have the Note 8's on display. However, all of the other Samsung tablet models have this issue in one spot or another. It seems Samsung has sacrificed sturdiness for a lower profile. So, I'm wondering if folks can help me determine if I should return this for another unit or deal with it.

I'd try flexing the cover's tabs some to see if I could alleviate the flexing... this is common on all tablets and phones since they are made to be as light as possible these days.
You might be able to heat the case holder with a hair dryer to make flexing/bending it easier.

cawake said:
Specifically, the spot is just left of mid-line and about a 1/3 of the way up from the bottom in portrait mode. If you have the wallpaper of the quill with the scribble (not the ink well), it is just to left of the quill tip. If I press on the corresponding spot on the back or flex the tablet from the sides a bit, a bright spot appears on lighter backgrounds (it doesn't show on dark backgrounds). A white background is back.
Ok, so everyone is going to say don't push or flex the tablet and I agree However, I bought the MoKo rotating case and when I snap it in firmly, this spot appears. I remove the tablet or loosen up the left side of the case, the spot disappears. The case appears to flex the tablet a bit, causing the display issue. I'm going to give another case a try, but MoKo is really the only rotating case, which I really liked.
Since the back of the tablet is "spongy" in this spot and allows it, I was trying to determine if this is a design issue with all of Note 8's or a manufacturing defect with mine. I went to a big box store to test, but they no longer have the Note 8's on display. However, all of the other Samsung tablet models have this issue in one spot or another. It seems Samsung has sacrificed sturdiness for a lower profile. So, I'm wondering if folks can help me determine if I should return this for another unit or deal with it.
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I've seen this in mine. Definitely pressure flexing back plate pressure on the battery frame. The screws holding the battery will press from the back of the LCD and you'll see a bright dot. Relieve the flex/stress or the dot it permanently bruise.

DizzyDen said:
I'd try flexing the cover's tabs some to see if I could alleviate the flexing... this is common on all tablets and phones since they are made to be as light as possible these days.
You might be able to heat the case holder with a hair dryer to make flexing/bending it easier.
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DizzyDen,
Thanks for the suggestion. I did try flexing it back into shape, but to no avail.
Chris

dtvboy said:
I've seen this in mine. Definitely pressure flexing back plate pressure on the battery frame. The screws holding the battery will press from the back of the LCD and you'll see a bright dot. Relieve the flex/stress or the dot it permanently bruise.
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dtvboy,
Thanks for confirming the issue. You are right, the spot does resemble the tip of a screw. I just received the fintie slim case and I no longer have the issue. I miss the rotating stand, but it's better than the distracting dot or damaging my tablet.
Chris

You could also try sanding the flat part of the rotating holder... anything to relieve the pressure it puts on the back of the Note... bending the corners forward on the holder might help as well.

Accessories Standing cover with Pen

Got my case today and it's OK, but a couple of gripes. There is zero protection for the hinge. Drop it on edge and no safety net. Given that's kind of the heaviest area when folded seems likely to be what hits the concrete on a drop.
The front cover seems to slide around a bit if you put edge pressure on it.
While wireless charging works with the stand slotted, the pen holder prevents it from getting close enough to charge.
Also a bit too bulky to feel natural in the hip pocket with the pen slotted in, though I expected that. The pen is for travel and meetings so I won't have it attached all the time.
The back of the case shows fingerprints almost as bad as the screens do.
*EDIT* And finally I just noticed - the stand is really only useful when folded and in landscape mode. Otherwise you might as well just lay the phone down it leans back so far.
The gray-green of the case is definitely the color I expected the phone to be, so it's not a match to the phone case gray color, but the phone color is only really visible around the power button.
Sorry for potato photos, the only thing I had handy to shoot with was my Surface Duo 1.0.

cybermage1 said:
Got my case today and it's OK, but a couple of gripes. There is zero protection for the hinge. Drop it on edge and no safety net. Given that's kind of the heaviest area when folded seems likely to be what hits the concrete on a drop.
The front cover seems to slide around a bit if you put edge pressure on it.
While wireless charging works with the stand slotted, the pen holder prevents it from getting close enough to charge.
Also a bit too bulky to feel natural in the hip pocket with the pen slotted in, though I expected that. The pen is for travel and meetings so I won't have it attached all the time.
The back of the case shows fingerprints almost as bad as the screens do.
*EDIT* And finally I just noticed - the stand is really only useful when folded and in landscape mode. Otherwise you might as well just lay the phone down it leans back so far.
The gray-green of the case is definitely the color I expected the phone to be, so it's not a match to the phone case gray color, but the phone color is only really visible around the power button.
Sorry for potato photos, the only thing I had handy to shoot with was my Surface Duo 1.0.
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So as I understand, the colour of the case (Gray green) does not match the colour of the phone (Gray green)?

my front cover keeps flipping of, me no likey

QPR said:
my front cover keeps flipping of, me no likey
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maybe a 2 sided tape will fix it?

eswar539 said:
maybe a 2 sided tape will fix it?
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that sounds like a good thing to try. cheers

QPR said:
that sounds like a good thing to try. cheers
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Get 2mm one. Fits good

I got black in my free note pack with a grey grey phone are they supposed to give you matching?

eswar539 said:
Get 2mm one. Fits good
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I bought some for when I got a replacement fold 3. It's worth it. I could reuse the case.
mattcall said:
I got black in my free note pack with a grey grey phone are they supposed to give you matching?
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I was able to chose the color in the US.

One thing I do like about the pen attachment; when the pen is installed with the phone open and the power and volume buttons ot the top, I can slide the pen out a couple inches and with my left hand I can completely hold the open phone. The pen slides between my middle and pointer fingers and the phone balances while open and is weildable.
Maybe I should add a photo?