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Hi! I'm a new user of the Desire Hd. An old user of the HD2
I live in Spain and i've got my new Desire Hd with stock Vodafone Rom. I really would like to change and try one of the fantastic roms posted here on xda.
I've seen some topics explaining how to radio off, etc....
My question is: Is there a way to get back to the original stock rom with stock functions as never touched? I have 2 year warranty with vodafone and i don't want to loose them. Thankyou all!
Short answer, yes.
You could replace the Vodafone branded firmware and replace it with the stock HTC firmware and they wouldn't know, as most carriers will at some point supply an unbranded device.
I got mine from Orange UK, and it was completely unbranded.
Ok i understand. So there won't be a way to backup the vodafone firmware to restore it back later?...where can i find the stock firmware?i'm still new on this device..is there also a way to go back from sim unlock,radio off..all of this stuff?thanks!
Hi,
I suggest to perform a Nandroid back up using clockworkmod....before to upgrade a new rom...
Ok..
Hi thanks for replying. Ok i can do a nandroid backup, but then i see i have to make many operations like root, s-off, radio s-off, upgrade clockwork etcetera........ And i would like to know if then i can restore everything back because if i have to send the phone to the sat Vodafone won't let me.... It's important for me , i think maybe other vodafone users are interested in this. Thanks
You can apply an RUU (Rom Update Utility) to restore your handset to complete factory settings. A generic WWE (World Wide English) version should be fine to restore to as that would be the type HTC would ship on an unbranded device sold in Europe.
uhmm. that's a good idea. I can get it on the official htc page? maybe you can help me with a link? Thankyou very much.
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ok i've seen the vodafone ruu.. it's uk.... i need it in spanish....... Thanks!
maybe it's possible to have it? otherwise i have to install the wwe no? i see it's the 1.32 ... now there is the 1.7* out no? Thanks!
The WWE version will do fine. As it has all the major European languages.
ok that's perfect. So now if i do all the procedures like s-off, root, clockwork update etc.. Then simply installing this Ruu i will return to stock version? Thanks
or maybe it's possible to install the vodafone uk one and install in it a spanish lang pack? Thanks
edit: Other idea. I could make a nandroid backup like explained before. Install this wwe ruu so i restore the old clockwork. And then restore the nandroid backup. This should work no? Thanks
Most, if not all, RUU's that are aimed at European countries will have support for English, Spanish, French, etc...
If you do all the procedures and run the RUU it will revert everything (Except Radio S-OFF) back to factory defaults (Including S-OFF & Root) you can then get OTA updates direct from HTC, no waiting around for Vodafone ESP to bloat them.
RUU's that have specific language support will have a slightly different filename.
ok. i've edited the previous post like this, what do you think about this idea?
edit: Other idea. I could make a nandroid backup like explained before. Install this wwe ruu so i restore the old clockwork. And then restore the nandroid backup. This should work no? Thanks
and also. i can revert to radio s-off or not?
thanks
If you run the RUU it will restore your recovery partition from Clockwork Mod Recovery back to HTC Recovery.
You would not be able to restore a nandroid backup until you Rooted, S-OFF & installed Clockwork Mod Recovery again.
ah ok i understand.. it's a shame i cannot find an ruu for vodafone in spanish.. i see that in uk exists because it's posted on your ruu page...... i really like to stay on cooked roms, i need the vodafone one only in case something happens and i have to bring it at vodafone.. Thanks
Hello everybody!
I am relatively new One X owner and my previous handset was the famous HD2, so I used to be quite familiar with all the tweaks and mods. But now I have apparently stepped into a whole new world with a lot more complicated rules. There's talk about cid-numbers, nandroid backup, s-on/s-off, how you can't downgrade, etc. I tried to use the search, but I would like comprehensive answers to all my questions.
First thing first, what's a cid-number? I've read it has something to do with regions and operators, but how does this affect the device? Is this some kind hardware change or just software related? Is there even "international" versions available? Since I am ex HD2 user, the only difference between that device was the T-Mobile and international variat. Now it seems, there's a lot more different handsets available.
How does the cid-number affect the phone? Does these custom roms require specific cid-numbers? Can they be changed at all? What I've learned, my device cid-number is HTC__Y13. Does this mean something? And does it mean I can install for example the ARHD's newest Jelly Bean?
Talking about Jelly Bean, there has been talked about not being able to revert back to ICS? Why? Is actual physical changes made with the device, so it can't be downgraded? I never read people having such problems with the HD2. You could always revert back to older custom, or stock rom, if you wished to do so.
Then there's s-on and s-off. What does this mean exactly and how does it affect my device? I've already unlocked my bootloader, installed the custom boot and custom rom? Am I still somehow locked? I didn't even realize this has something meaningfull purpose.
I've probably already made my first mistake by not creating a nandroid backup. To clarify, I recently changed my stock rom to ARHD 9.7.0 and followed all the noobie instructions, but didn't realize that nandroid backup was somehow essential. Does this mean that I'm screwed somehow or is there a way to fully revert back to stock? Back in the HD2 era, you could have just downloaded the official stock rom and get your device back to stock. So what I'm asking, can I completely revert back to stock if I want for example send the device for repair?
And finally about the official updates. I've read a lot about not being able to update your rom, without reverting back to stock. Is this true and why would people want to do that? Doesn't the new custom roms include all the new improvements and upgrades? Why would people want to install custom rom, then revert back to stock to get the latest updates and then go back to custom? Maybe I've missed something?
Maybe these questions have been aswered a thousand times, in which case I would greatly appreciate, if somebody could point me to the right direction. If not, I would also appreciate, if you could answer any of my questions. It's not funny being in the dark.
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Hello everybody!
I am relatively new One X owner and my previous handset was the famous HD2, so I used to be quite familiar with all the tweaks and mods. But now I have apparently stepped into a whole new world with a lot more complicated rules. There's talk about cid-numbers, nandroid backup, s-on/s-off, how you can't downgrade, etc. I tried to use the search, but I would like comprehensive answers to all my questions.
First thing first, what's a cid-number? I've read it has something to do with regions and operators, but how does this affect the device? Is this some kind hardware change or just software related? Is there even "international" versions available? Since I am ex HD2 user, the only difference between that device was the T-Mobile and international variat. Now it seems, there's a lot more different handsets available.
How does the cid-number affect the phone? Does these custom roms require specific cid-numbers? Can they be changed at all? What I've learned, my device cid-number is HTC__Y13. Does this mean something? And does it mean I can install for example the ARHD's newest Jelly Bean?
Talking about Jelly Bean, there has been talked about not being able to revert back to ICS? Why? Is actual physical changes made with the device, so it can't be downgraded? I never read people having such problems with the HD2. You could always revert back to older custom, or stock rom, if you wished to do so.
Then there's s-on and s-off. What does this mean exactly and how does it affect my device? I've already unlocked my bootloader, installed the custom boot and custom rom? Am I still somehow locked? I didn't even realize this has something meaningfull purpose.
I've probably already made my first mistake by not creating a nandroid backup. To clarify, I recently changed my stock rom to ARHD 9.7.0 and followed all the noobie instructions, but didn't realize that nandroid backup was somehow essential. Does this mean that I'm screwed somehow or is there a way to fully revert back to stock? Back in the HD2 era, you could have just downloaded the official stock rom and get your device back to stock. So what I'm asking, can I completely revert back to stock if I want for example send the device for repair?
And finally about the official updates. I've read a lot about not being able to update your rom, without reverting back to stock. Is this true and why would people want to do that? Doesn't the new custom roms include all the new improvements and upgrades? Why would people want to install custom rom, then revert back to stock to get the latest updates and then go back to custom? Maybe I've missed something?
Maybe these questions have been aswered a thousand times, in which case I would greatly appreciate, if somebody could point me to the right direction. If not, I would also appreciate, if you could answer any of my questions. It's not funny being in the dark.
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hello, so: cid is region/operator number, for europe is htc__01 for example, and you can't change it while we don't have s-off, it's just a number that says to the ruu if it's the right version of phone or not, cid 11111111 is called supercid, and permit you to install every ruu in this world for this phone, but still we can't have it until we achieved s-off.
s-on/s-off are security on/security off, and except for few test devices, everybody have s-on when they buy a phone, and developers and hackers have to find a way to modify it to s-off, which will permit us to flash different hboot version, and downgrade, and change boot animations (the first one, not the second with animation, it's already moddable).
to return back to stock rom you have to relock your bootloader with fastboot command:
Code:
fastboot oem lock
and then download ruu version for your phone from here: http://htcruu.com/?dir=Endeavor
but you should download one with newer/the same hboot version and with your cidnum
to see hboot version just enter in bootloader and look to it there, for cidnum write this on cmd:
Code:
fastboot oem getvar cid
then enter in bootloader and launch .exe you downloaded and follow instructions, in some minutes you'll have completely stock rom! (but still no warranty, because you unlocked your bootloader, and when you relock it, it'll be written RELOCKED, instead of LOCKED when it's new).
flash jelly bean with new sense it's a risk now because it will flash also new hboot, that won't permit you to install previous rom or ruu, so you'll stay on jelly bean until somebody will do rom for this hboot! so i suggest you to wait some weeks and it will be official and more stable and better.
good luck in this new world
Thanks a lot! I guess there's different opinions about the warranty, because I have read that people have been able to fix their devices (under warranty), even after unlocked bootloader, if the device was returned to factory condition prior the repair. So warranty won't be voided completely and all the hardware issues are covered.
I've used app called "Cid Getter" and it gives me this line: [CID is:]: [HTC__Y13]. Is this my cid-number? If so, what is the right stock ruu for me?
HBOOT-1.12.0000 <------ I guess this is my hboot version?
In theory can the device be hacked , so the bootloader would say LOCKED, even if you unlocked it before? Or is this totally impossible?
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Thanks a lot! I guess there's different opinions about the warranty, because I have read that people have been able to fix their devices (under warranty), even after unlocked bootloader, if the device was returned to factory condition prior the repair. So warranty won't be voided completely and all the hardware issues are covered.
I've used app called "Cid Getter" and it gives me this line: [CID is:]: [HTC__Y13]. Is this my cid-number? If so, what is the right stock ruu for me?
HBOOT-1.12.0000 <------ I guess this is my hboot version?
In theory can the device be hacked , so the bootloader would say LOCKED, even if you unlocked it before? Or is this totally impossible?
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y13 i think that it's europe, try to download normal europe no brand version, if you'll have problems try another one,
yes, 1.12.0000 is your hboot version, and it's not the newest so you can download the last ruu without problems
no it can't, but even if it would be possible, it'll be pointless because you gave a number to htc, and they know your imei adress, so even with LOCKED, they'll know... in some countries they don't make problem about, if it's a hardware fault, in others you'll have problem, i don't know just ask htc in your country if you'll need it
Yes I have the European version, since I live in Finland and it is part of Europe and the European Union. Here we don't have branded phones so I guess that doesn't cause any problems. Also the phone was not sim-locked. Could you post me a link to a correct RUU? Does the radio version matter somehow?
What comes to the warranty, I probably will have to see that if it comes to it. Hopefully there's no reason to send the device for repair.
And if I understood correctly, I shouldn't upgrade to ARHD Jelly Bean, because it's going to cause some troubles, if I want to revert back to stock?
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Yes I have the European version, since I live in Finland and it is part of Europe and the European Union. Here we don't have branded phones so I guess that doesn't cause any problems. Also the phone was not sim-locked. Could you post me a link to a correct RUU? Does the radio version matter somehow?
What comes to the warranty, I probably will have to see that if it comes to it. Hopefully there's no reason to send the device for repair.
And if I understood correctly, I shouldn't upgrade to ARHD Jelly Bean, because it's going to cause some troubles, if I want to revert back to stock?
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what radio do you have? i don't know what's the difference, but i think there is a difference between mid-europa and north europa, so maybe there is something different.
about arhd jb you'll NOT BE ABLE to revert back to ics, so no ruu, neither other rom from xda, because they are done for other hboot as i know, so if you'll install it, you'll have it until someone will do something for this hboot
The radio version is 2.1204.135.20. I'm not sure, but I don't think there being a difference between Northern-European and Middle-European devices, at least what comes to the radio version.
So I guess I should stick with the current ICS ARHD 9.7.0 build for now... Thank you for your great help! :good:
http://htcruu.com/Endeavor/RUU_ENDE...Radio_2.1204.127.19_release_271851_signed.exe
this seems to be similar radio, try with it
Hi,
Ive tried without success to get the CID of my phone with get cid app from store or using emulator and the getprop ro.cid command.
Nothing...
What can I do for get it? :S
Esaj2 said:
The radio version is 2.1204.135.20. I'm not sure, but I don't think there being a difference between Northern-European and Middle-European devices, at least what comes to the radio version.
So I guess I should stick with the current ICS ARHD 9.7.0 build for now... Thank you for your great help! :good:
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CID isn't the only way to find out the RUU for your phone. If you'd done the right thing and checked your software build before rooting to make sure there is an RUU for your phone then you'd know which RUU is for you. For example:
If you were running 1.29.401.11 then RUU_ENDEAVOR_U_ICS_40_HTC_Europe_1.29.401.11_Radio_1.1204.105.14_release_260491_signed.exe would be the one for you
Esaj2 said:
if I want to revert back to stock?
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Have a look here bro http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1859714
See you
Franky
Hi everybody,
I've been reading a lot of stuff since now but still have some unanswered questions.
I want to return to completely stock as for insurance or warranty purposes.
I originally got an german HTC One M8 with T-MOB101 cid.
I unlocked the bootloader as the temp-root variant did not work for me, s-off'ed, changed cid to Supercid and flashed ViperRom.
But now I have to send it in to insurance company because my display glass broke after dropping my htc one off about 1 Foot...:crying:
So how would be the optimal procedure to get as close to completely stock?
I know that after reverting everything the bootloader would still say relocked.
So my idea was to:
1. get an original T-MOB101 NAND backup and restore it (beforehand restore T-MOB101 cid)
2. flashing stock recovery
3. Removing Tampered (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=51700320&postcount=1)
4. Setting Locked (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2708571)
5. play over an OTA firmware.zip
This would lead me to a stock rom with OTA capability, but would still show me the red warning as well as S-OFF.
As an alternative I read about hex edited hboots to get rid of the red warning or even Mask S-off as s-on.
However in the according thread i could not make out an hboot corresponding to the T-MOB101 CID. So I tried it on my own after having a look at stock and modified hboots.
I edited my own hboot according to those modification but am too scared to flash it as it could hard brick my phone....
So I ask you guys, am I on the right way and what would you do ?
Greetz F4t4l!tY
F4t4l!tY said:
Hi everybody,
I've been reading a lot of stuff since now but still have some unanswered questions.
I want to return to completely stock as for insurance or warranty purposes.
I originally got an german HTC One M8 with T-MOB101 cid.
I unlocked the bootloader as the temp-root variant did not work for me, s-off'ed, changed cid to Supercid and flashed ViperRom.
But now I have to send it in to insurance company because my display glass broke after dropping my htc one off about 1 Foot...:crying:
So how would be the optimal procedure to get as close to completely stock?
I know that after reverting everything the bootloader would still say relocked.
So my idea was to:
1. get an original T-MOB101 NAND backup and restore it (beforehand restore T-MOB101 cid)
2. flashing stock recovery
3. Removing Tampered (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=51700320&postcount=1)
4. Setting Locked (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2708571)
5. play over an OTA firmware.zip
This would lead me to a stock rom with OTA capability, but would still show me the red warning as well as S-OFF.
As an alternative I read about hex edited hboots to get rid of the red warning or even Mask S-off as s-on.
However in the according thread i could not make out an hboot corresponding to the T-MOB101 CID. So I tried it on my own after having a look at stock and modified hboots.
I edited my own hboot according to those modification but am too scared to flash it as it could hard brick my phone....
So I ask you guys, am I on the right way and what would you do ?
Greetz F4t4l!tY
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To tell you the truth, I don't think the insurance company will care about any software mods. Different story if you had to send it in to HTC.
GermanGuy said:
To tell you the truth, I don't think the insurance company will care about any software mods. Different story if you had to send it in to HTC.
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Well, actually I would agree, but as they turn on the phone and a red warning pops up I could think of any crazy reason why they would deny the repair or exchange ^^.
Whatever that reason might be that would result in a broken glass caused by the software
Does the red text dissappear if I return S-ON, officially relock bootloader, stock recovery and cid?
F4t4l!tY said:
Well, actually I would agree, but as they turn on the phone and a red warning pops up I could think of any crazy reason why they would deny the repair or exchange ^^.
Whatever that reason might be that would result in a broken glass caused by the software
Does the red text dissappear if I return S-ON, officially relock bootloader, stock recovery and cid?
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The only way to get rid off the red text is with a modifed HBOOT.
GermanGuy said:
The only way to get rid off the red text is with a modifed HBOOT.
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Well ok, I feared that. You're not accidently fit in Hex-Editing ?
As I said, I already backed up my hboot and edited it as the other hboots I founds with the wrong cid. But I'm afraid of flashing it without anyone else who knows something about hexediting took a second look at it.
Also does the hboot get overwritten by a NAND backup? So if I'll restore I would have to modify that hboot and not the one I'm currently at?
F4t4l!tY said:
Well ok, I feared that. You're not accidently fit in Hex-Editing ?
As I said, I already backed up my hboot and edited it as the other hboots I founds with the wrong cid. But I'm afraid of flashing it without anyone else who knows something about hexediting took a second look at it.
Also does the hboot get overwritten by a NAND backup? So if I'll restore I would have to modify that hboot and not the one I'm currently at?
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Sorry, have not done hexediting in a while. Hboot is part of firmware, does not get overwritten by restore backup.
Alright but thanks anyway.
If there is someone out there who could help, i would appreciate that .
Thx in advance!
F4t4l!tY said:
Alright but thanks anyway.
If there is someone out there who could help, i would appreciate that .
Thx in advance!
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First you should flash the stock rom then stock recovery.This will remove your red text.then you should flash ruu.I would suggest not to change your cid.
Also if you are comfortable you can change your cid to supercid,mid to wwe mid then flash wwe fw and its recovery then flash the ruu.This will convert your phone to international htc with s-off and super cid and you will be able to take ota and you will have full 100% warranty.
Hey Jyotirdeb,
thanks for your input.
But there is still the problem, that I have to come to T-MOB101 firmware and not the WWE. Furthermore as far as I have read, the red text will only disappear if I flash stock recovery, stock ROM AND S-ON again. At least without a modified HBOOT.
Other problem is, that there are as far as i know no RUUs available for the M8 up to now. Correct me if I'm mistaken. At least I didn't find one, especially for cid T-MOB101.
F4t4l!tY said:
Hey Jyotirdeb,
thanks for your input.
But there is still the problem, that I have to come to T-MOB101 firmware and not the WWE. Furthermore as far as I have read, the red text will only disappear if I flash stock recovery, stock ROM AND S-ON again. At least without a modified HBOOT.
Other problem is, that there are as far as i know no RUUs available for the M8 up to now. Correct me if I'm mistaken. At least I didn't find one, especially for cid T-MOB101.
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It is true that you have to be on stock rom and stock kernel.But you dont have to be s-on you can be s-off.And yes as far as I know there is EU ruu (unbranded) maybe you have to wait for hTC to release Ruu for other variant.I am sorry I cant be of more help.
Hmm, strange thing, as I actually read it again that there must be s-on and everything stock, to get rid of it, but nevermind.
Really, where could I get that RUU from? As far as I know only the Sprint or Verizon Variant does have a RUU not the International One.
Furthermore would I need the RUU from T-Mobile as the release it with their branding, not HTC.
F4t4l!tY said:
Hmm, strange thing, as I actually read it again that there must be s-on and everything stock, to get rid of it, but nevermind.
Really, where could I get that RUU from? As far as I know only the Sprint or Verizon Variant does have a RUU not the International One.
Furthermore would I need the RUU from T-Mobile as the release it with their branding, not HTC.
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"Hmm, strange thing, as I actually read it again that there must be s-on and everything stock, to get rid of it, but nevermind."
If you have an s-on device you can change bootloader status to relocked but if you have soff device you can change bootloader stats to locked so you will get 100% warranty.I dont know about version or sprint but the ruu is available for unbranded EU model.
hi guys
i don t find the recovery stock of my htc one m8 cid tmob101 firmware 3.32.111.3 .
you can help me? thx
glesius said:
hi guys
i don t find the recovery stock of my htc one m8 cid tmob101 firmware 3.32.111.3 .
you can help me? thx
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The site is in german... use google chrome to translate.
You'll find everything you need to restore T-MOB101 M8.
http://www.handy-faq.de/forum/htc_o...ne_m8_firmwaresammlung_ruus_otas_backups.html
harri2cool said:
The site is in german... use google chrome to translate.
You'll find everything you need to restore T-MOB101 M8.
http://www.handy-faq.de/forum/htc_o...ne_m8_firmwaresammlung_ruus_otas_backups.html
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Actually, on that site there is a RUU for unbranded phones only. For T-MOB101 they have a nand backup and firmware. I'm still thinking whether I want to use that. That is, I have a similar issue as the OP, I mean, I want to reinstall Android, although I'm completely stock, unrooted, etc. It's just that the Lollipop update screwed everything up and I'm hoping that reinstalling will fix it. Unfortunately, for CID T-MOB101 no RUU is available. So, I either have to use the backup and then flash firmware, for which I have to root and install custom recovery first, or I have to wait till HTC comes up with Android 5.1.
i have Htc one M8 earlier i had a custom insert coin rom. for getting 100% stock i unfortunately flashed a rom for demo phones. it has this demo app that comes again again and phone is a mess. Now i want to have a 100% stock rom to receive ota updates in future. current status of my phone is S-ON, unlocked boot loader, tampered. its european version with CID: HTC__002.
I'm going to close this thread because the OP is discussing it in this thread. If you have an answer, please reply to him there.
Thanks,
coal686
Hi,
I bought my HTC 10 (unlocked, EU) just 3 weeks ago and I was so exciting using Nougat I just started to spam “check version” in order to have a notification like “android 7.0 available”.
But HTC decided to stop Nougat OTA because of issues in the EU.
So I decided to instal TWRP and flash my marshmallow version to the Leedroid Nougat custom rom.
The fact is that it was the first time i was doing that and as the noob I am, I’ve deleted my backups on the SD (don’t ask how, I don’t know).
So, now i’m stuck with my LeeDroid version, using nougat but with bugs (snapchat not responding, can’t connect, can’t use Netflix…) and I see that HTC released the Nougat OTA on manual update.
I wanted to install it, but I’ve understood that I need to be on a stock version (not a custom like Leedroid) to update with the RUU.
But now, I don’t know how to reinstall MM stock in order to get that OTA, can someone help me please ?
My HTC 10 is unlocked EU version, i’m Root and Bootloader unlocked too.
Thank so much to the guy who'll answer and sorry by advance for my bad english.
May someone answer me Noob Friendly ? :silly:
If you want to go back to 100% stock, including recovery, flash a compatible RUU.
You shoud be able to find the WWE RUU no problem on the HTC Website, although check your CID and MID first though, CID should be HTC__001 and MID should be 2PS6200000. If the CID doesnt match that, then you need to find the version it does support, or S-OFF you're phone so that you can change the CID manually or switch to super CID (11111111).
I had to S-OFF in order to go back to stock as my CID was H3G__001. Even though it was Sim Unlocked, there is no official RUU for H3G. After all that, I still decided to stick with custom ROM (LeeDroid).