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The best snartwach to use with a suit?

I've been thinking about buying the Moto 360 for a while because it's, imo the best looking snartwach to use with a suit (I work at a bank) since first reviews were not very good. With all the updates it had and after all this time what are the main functionalities that we can do with it at the moment and the main grips you're still having? Should I wait for another snartwach to arrive?
Cheers

Badelhas said:
I've been thinking about buying the Moto 360 for a while because it's, imo the best looking snartwach to use with a suit (I work at a bank) since first reviews were not very good. With all the updates it had and after all this time what are the main functionalities that we can do with it at the moment and the main grips you're still having? Should I wait for another snartwach to arrive?
Cheers
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Well my suggestion is to go with the Moto360 with the stainless steel band or if you could get your hands on the uniband. My 360 doesn't get noticed as easily as a smartwatch because of the round face which is good but the LG G Watch R does the same thing but that wouldn't blend well with suits since it has a sports watch type of face.
In terms of battery life it was horrendous before updates but afterwards it can easily last 24 hours with tilt to wake on. I'm assuming without tilt to wake you can go for 36 hours or more.
The ambient screen feature drops it down to about 10 or so hours so if you think that's its worth having your screen on all the time but dark to a point where its very hard to tell time in most situations then go ahead and activate it.
The one thing that I'm the most affraid of when using the 360 is the possibilities of the back cracking. One search in the forums will show you pictures of people cracking their watches from normal use. Most of the time it is due to custom watch bands but not uncommon for it to happen on the leather model. Thankfully I haven't heard much about the oem steelband equipped watch cracking.
If the moto360 is not your style then you can always go to the zenwatch but the con is that it's square (not watch looking) and the fame color can throw off any custom band you may put on it. Only problem I have with that is its You can wait until the LG releases its premimum watch and decide from there or if you want wait until September or so when the updated version of the moto360 releases

Thanks for your input, I really like the design of the 360 but battery life is not good and the ambient Mode destroys it, from what I've been reading. What about the LG Urbane?

Badelhas said:
Thanks for your input, I really like the design of the 360 but battery life is not good and the ambient Mode destroys it, from what I've been reading. What about the LG Urbane?
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I personally can get 2 days out of mine. I have the steel bracelet in silver, it looks really classy and works with everything (as it is both minimalistic and sportslike.
Go with the right watchface and you're done.
http://wearfaces.com/simplism-watchface-by-vanboosh/
Or : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pskstudio.elegancewatchfacefree

But you have ambient Mode always on, meaning, you have it always showing the time?

The moto 360 doesn't have an always on time mode like some of the other android wear watches like the lg g watch. Coming from am lg g watch I was really disappointed in that. The screen is also more pixellated than I expected. And the black bar on the screen makes me only use black watchfaces otherwise the black bar ruins the look. However, all those faults are forgiven if you love the style. I have two generation of pebbles and the lg g watch and the moto 360 may be the least practical of them all, but I really love the way it looks. Even though it's a bit chunky on my wrist. I considered waiting for the huwai watch but in the end decided the moto 360 looks better. If you really like the look of one style vs the other, you won't mind the drawbacks. Keep in mind you will very likely upgrade as new generations are released. The next generation will probably be leaps and bounds better.
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Yeah, I do prefer the look of the 360 but the LG watch Urbane looks nice as well and because of the amoled screen lasts a full day, from what I've been reading. It's also sharper and has a full round screen. Have you seen it?

Not in person, but I've seen pictures of it. The amoled screen would be a plus (except maybe outside), and not having the black bar is good too. It's not on my radar because it looks too manly, I just don't like the way it looks (I'm a woman). The moto 360 with the thin metal strap is less weird on a woman's wrist; it looks a bit like a boyfriend watch. But if you like the lg urbane and can afford to upgrade in 6 months, get that now and then get the next gen moto 360 in the fall too! It will almost certainly have better battery life in the next gen and maybe amoled screen too.
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Yes, your right, it does look manly. The 360 looks a mix between something classic and something futuristic and I love it. If you have it, how do you feel about having a watch that is a black screen most of the day? I also have a thin wrist, doesn't It look too big? What about current functionalities?
I would love with the new mono link metal band available with delayed shipping on Motorola Moto maker site... Looks better than the other metal bands IMO.
The only two questions now are: - when will the new metal band be available?
- when will the LG Urbane be available?

Those are good questions. Maybe the availability is what will make your decision. I prefer black screens anyway and probably would use the same watch faces even if that little black bar wasn't on the bottom. I don't like that the time is not always showing. If you like both watches equally, and the urbane keeps the watch on always, I suggest you go for that. But if you like the moto's style more, you will forgive it that fault. I am wearing the moto instead of my pebble or lg g despite the moto needing to "wake up" to show time. But I haven't had it long enough to know if that will really bother me. Right now there is no perfect smart watch on the market so we can choose to live with some drawbacks or we can choose to wait at least 6 months and probably more like 2 years for the technology to mature. I choose to not wait. I didn't buy it initially because it was so big and thick, I don't know if I just got accustomed to the size, or if the gold watch and thin band makes it seem smaller, but I like it. The band you want only comes in 22mm size. The slim bands are 18mm and sized to barely fit my wrist, but come with four extra links. I don't think they would fit most men, you should visit a best buy and try a display model if you can, before you buy.
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My 360 easily lasts two days, but I rarely have the need to stay awake for 2 days at a time. Also, I rarely have the need to stare at my watch face all day so I don't need it to stay lit up all day, or for two days at a time.
Two relatively moot points when you think about it logically.

Reportedly, the Urbane will not be using Android Wear

No, there are 2 versions, the Urbane and the Urbane LTE. The LTE version will use LG operating system which derived from webOS

I wear a suit 6 days a week. My moto360 does me good. Compliments from clients every day.

eljoker402 said:
I wear a suit 6 days a week. My moto360 does me good. Compliments from clients every day.
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Thanks
How is your battery life and which watch phone and band do you use?

I got a Nexus 6 and a moto360 black with black pebble link band. I only use the 360 for messages and to tell time. I turned the brightness all the way down and turned off the health stuff. I usually get home with 30-40% life left after 10-12 hours off charger.

I looked at some photos of that particular band and don't really like it. Can't we buy other band on a regular watch store? I really like the look of the new mono link metal band but don't really if and when it will be available in Europe...
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I have a Moto 360 and I like it but was hoping for more features. Not being able to make a call through the watch is a letdown, to be honest. And the vibration seems a little low, I miss some of the notifications...Also, framerate*seems a little choppy at time, even with the last 5.0.2 update.*I demand more, I really hope future Android Wear updates make it a little more interesting.

Depending on the model itself, it can be really classy or just passable as a professional device. Either way, it doesn't give off a tacky look that would look out of place when worn with a suit, unless you're wearing a color that obviously doesn't match. The metallic band versions seem to work pretty well, but I don't think the leather bands are that bad. If you are on the fence, though, I'd probably wait for the next iteration of the Moto 360, which has been in the rumour mill for some time to come out in 2015. Especially given that the Moto 360 has a few production or design issues like the backplate being prone to being broken easily, I'd definitely wait.

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Depending on the model itself, it can be really classy or just passable as a professional device. Either way, it doesn't give off a tacky look that would look out of place when worn with a suit, unless you're wearing a color that obviously doesn't match. The metallic band versions seem to work pretty well, but I don't think the leather bands are that bad. If you are on the fence, though, I'd probably wait for the next iteration of the Moto 360, which has been in the rumour mill for some time to come out in 2015. Especially given that the Moto 360 has a few production or design issues like the backplate being prone to being broken easily, I'd definitely wait.
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Thanks for your input. But if you check the post before yours I already bought the 360
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[Q] Should I get one?

Hi,
I'm hoping to buy an android wear smartwatch soon but I'm torn between the Moto 360 and LG Urbane. I'm leaning towards the Moto 360 mainly for the larger screen and wireless charging. But not 100% keen on the bottom bar even though I know it's needed and the design can't work without it but does spoil the design somewhat though some watch faces seem to work well with it.
I generally prefer the design of the 360 over the Urbane, though screen is slightly better resolution on the Urbane thought would prefer the bigger screen. I just want to know what the Moto 360 is like to use daily and if the bottom bar really is much of an issue and would you rather get the Urbane?

mikesaa309 said:
Hi,
I'm hoping to buy an android wear smartwatch soon but I'm torn between the Moto 360 and LG Urbane. I'm leaning towards the Moto 360 mainly for the larger screen and wireless charging. But not 100% keen on the bottom bar even though I know it's needed and the design can't work without it but does spoil the design somewhat though some watch faces seem to work well with it.
I generally prefer the design of the 360 over the Urbane, though screen is slightly better resolution on the Urbane thought would prefer the bigger screen. I just want to know what the Moto 360 is like to use daily and if the bottom bar really is much of an issue and would you rather get the Urbane?
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Not much of an issue to me.. I guess its personal. I realize something that I prefer in the Moto 360. In comparison to the LG watch R, the cards in it tends to get cut off, which it will not happen in moto 360.

Just got a black one yest from a closing radio shack for 125. I already have a pebble steel, but i kinda like the android wear exp.

I got one today. I returned a pebble steel with a broken button. I've had it for a few hours now. I will be returning it this evening and getting another Pebble Steel. If I can convince them to give me a full refund, I might wait for the Pebble Time.
When I brought the 360 home, it was at 12% battery life. This was to be expected. I was able to turn it on for about 30 seconds before auto-shutdown. I set a timer. It took 2 hours and 33 minutes to fully charge. It immediately wanted to upgrade after turning it on and completing setup. (v5.0.2)
It has been 4 hours and I'm down to 27%. Granted I've used the watch more than I normally would as I get used to the menus, but this is not acceptable. If I reduce it to what I consider to be normal use, it will not last the day.
The watch is glitchy and doesn't always register touch. When I am able to navigate to the menu I want, the watch will frequently and randomly vibrate and shut itself off while I'm in the middle of something (the same behavior as it I had covered it with my palm). This is beyond annoying.
About 50% of the time, the watch fails to turn the display on when I lift my arm (the standard lift and rotate gesture shown on the youtube videos). I've put this through extensive testing, and the exact same gesture (what I've found to be the most effective) is only effective about 50% of the time.
The heart rate monitor doesn't work. The strap is on tight and I have actually cleared a part of my arm of hair to test it. I have never been able to get a successful heart rate. I even got my girlfriend to try it. The lights on the back come on, but nobody is home.
Most of the best watch faces and apps require a purchase. I suppose this is by intention (the designers do deserve to profit from their designs). But the real annoyance is that there is a lot of bait-and-charge software too. Software that claims to be free on the Play store, only to find it severely handicapped until you pay via an in-app purchase. AFAIK this is a big kick in the teeth for the Android Wear community and a major drawback. It won't turn away the hardened Android fan-boys who already have invested in the apps they like, but it will turn of a lot of people on the fence. If you are gonna charge for your app, at least be up-front about it. Its shady as hell.
Furthermore, I've detected that there appears to be a lot of very similar watch faces. The comments and reviews indicate that there is rampant design theft and doesn't appear to be any checks in place to prevent this. As such, I have no idea that when I am purchasing a watch app, that I'm giving money to the original artist or a plagiarist.
Not all circular watch faces will render correctly. The "flat tire" utility bay will cut some of them off.
The watch is not visible in direct sunlight. I don't care what the reviews say. I was outside in the bright sunlight today and I could barely read the watch face.
The vibration is not strong enough. When the Pebble Steel vibrated, it was very strong, but not intrusively so. This watch I can hardly even feel when I'm expecting it. Not acceptable.
Step counter doesn't work, but this is to be expected. Even the Pebble Steel was off. I've always maintained that wrist based pedometers are a fad and can't tell what your legs are doing.
Sorry for being critical, but you did presumably ask for honest opinions. I suppose it is subjective, but the 360 isn't for me. It feels very Beta. Maybe the 360 2 will get it right, but this watch is a pass IMO.

I been wanting a new gadget to play with.
I bought someone's NIB black refurb off CL for $120. So far it's been a cool experience. I don't regret my purchase. YMMV it's a personal thing.
I bought a SONY smart watch. Turned it on, could figure out anything, couldn't get it pair. Turn it off, left it in the shopping bag somewhere.

pacificwing said:
Sorry for being critical, but you did presumably ask for honest opinions. I suppose it is subjective, but the 360 isn't for me. It feels very Beta. Maybe the 360 2 will get it right, but this watch is a pass IMO.
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Anyone with a 360 could have told you now was not the time to buy...
Motorola still haven't figured out the 5.1 update, and the previous update seriously hurt battery life and the tilt-to-wake function. Right now we're all in the same boat, just trying to keep the thing working properly till the end of the day...
The original software on the 360 was very responsive and had good battery life so we know it can work, but our only hope now is that Motorola's team of trained chimpanzee coders manages to set it right.

Huawei watch vs my Moto 360 1st Gen

Just got the Huawei watch. It is certainly very very nice. Having a full circle and no flat tire is great. A couple of things though. With the Huawei watch when I turn my wrist it takes 2-3 times of flicking my wrist before it turns on, not sure why that is. The Moto watch pretty much turns on every time without fail. Second the leather band on the Huawei watch is IMO too fancy compared to the Moto 360. The Huawei watch is something it seems you would wear with a suit and tie, where as the Moto can be wore with shorts or jeans and a t-shirt. The moto 360 also gets much brighter. On the Huawei watch I have to set it to 5 brightness and on the Moto at the same brightness its like 3. The leather band is very very stiff on the Huawei watch. I hope Huawei comes out with like a sport leather band like on the Moto 360 I would change to that in a second. And also wear as the Moto 360 has an APP in the play store to check your watch for stuff Huawei has nothing. If the Moto 360 didn't have that dumb flat tire for me anyone I would get the Moto 360 over the Huawei watch. But Because of the flat tire I will probably keep the Huawei watch.

The flat tire gets you auto brightness tho, right? Don't u think that's worth it? Got my Huawei yesterday and already its starting to irritate me having to manually adjust the brightness, also as the menu is not one click away or can it be adjusted for easy access somehow? Agree on the band but I guess that will get more comfortable in a couple of days.

Here's something to try...
Create an all black watch face...no hands, text or anything...just black. Now go in a dark closet with all the lights turned off and see what color your screen is.
Bet its not black...
Because of this and my fear of Huawei's likely lack of response to this and the potential for long term shortened pixel life, I've gone to the Moto 360 2015.

Yes I read the screen issues here on the forums as well. I tried that, and in ambient mode my screen is pitch black and off 100%. It's only when I wake the screen to normal mode and the brightness is set to 100% that i can see a bit of a tint and glow. That shouldn't happen I know but in ambient mode it's off which is 95% of the time so I'm not worried about that.
I do love the amoled blacks tho, if the Moto had amoled it would have been my first choice as well. I'm still in doubt if I'll keep the Huawei, it's just a lot of money for something not perfect.

TX-Brad said:
Here's something to try...
Create an all black watch face...no hands, text or anything...just black. Now go in a dark closet with all the lights turned off and see what color your screen is.
Bet its not black...
Because of this and my fear of Huawei's likely lack of response to this and the potential for long term shortened pixel life, I've gone to the Moto 360 2015.
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I get to my menu with a swipe left on the watch face. Easy enough for me.

I'm currently using the G Watch R and as far as this watch is concerned, I would not want a flat tyre + ambient sensor. Setting to a constant 4 gives me enough brightness and batt life. I can go up to 6 and I'll still be comfortable with the batt life. Just not sure how Huawei watch compares to this though. Main reason to look at other watches is to get a non-plated finish (s.steel) so that color won't peel off upon being scratched.
GwatchR is durable.. but erm I'm used to G-shocks and accidents do happen. And then there's a Urbane...

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I get to my menu with a swipe left on the watch face. Easy enough for me.
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Well, I did it the way you said. Changed the face it into black with Pujie Black and went into a dark room. It's not red to me, but deep black .

Just got a Huawei watch to replace my Moto 360 first gen as well. Have you noticed that you have to speak louder, much much louder to use voice commands. I tested the volume and the Moto 360 works at 50db while it takes 70-75db for the Huawei watch. Which is just ridiculous I have to yell at my watch now and it drives me crazy. I can't use a watch like this. Also the haptic motor is so weak I rarely ever feel it, I hear it more than I feel it. Can't believe I wanna go running back to my Moto 360 after trying this watch for 2 days. These issues are much worse than a flat tire.

Huawei Watch Review: The One Watch To Rule Them All

This review is not about how the Huawei functions as an andriod wear, but a review of how it is as a watch. Please enjoy the pictures below.
Every picture was taken when the watch is in AMBIENT MODE (AKA "always on" mode). This is how the watch will look despite looking at it or not. The one thing I love about this watch is that I am never wearing a blank(turned off) display. Because a lot these user made watch faces have an ambient mode that is just a little dimmer than active mode, I can pair the watch face with different color nato straps for extra style. Most people thought I was wearing a real watch. They only notice that it's a smart watch at night time when the display is brighter than it should be.
Battery Life in ambient mode: 3-4% per hour. Even with the bright watch faces, you will get 1.5 days of battery life easy(assuming a 16 hour day of always on). I have taken the watch off the charger at 10am, wore it for 14 hours always on, slept with it in theater mode at midnight(watch face off), and wore it another 14 hours till midnight with 12% left. Please note, I probably get less than average amount of notifications. Charge time from 12%-full in less than 1 hour. The brightness in dimmed ambient mode is the same as brightness level 1. You can read the watch in sunlight in ambient mode, but it is kind of dark.
Always active mode: sweeping second hand is working meaning the gpu is always on. You will get 2-3 hours of battery life so it's not recommended. You can force the watch into this mode with an app. Or else it dims to ambient mode after 5 seconds-120 second(depending on your setting).
Burn in: I know most are afraid of burn in since this is a AMOLED display with ambient mode on for hours on end. So far I have no burn in issues (not even ghost images). I change my watch face once daily. When in ambient mode, the watch face shifts slightly every couple of minutes as burn in protection.
The second hand does not move in ambient mode, the watch face updates every min(meaning the hour and minute hand moves. Some watch faces have functioning chrono and working bezels.
My conclusion: As a watch for watch lovers, the Huawei watch blows the competition out of the water. Only two watches come close, the Urbane and the Urbane 2nd edition. I argue that the Urbane is not as stylish due to the thicker bezel and the second edition had a recall. I am sitting here wondering why anyone would pick up an apple watch when something like the Huawei watch can achieve a greater battery life with the screen always on. As a fashion device with a great deal of functionality built in, you can't get any better than this!(for now).
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Hi,
Thanks for those pics, I have to say the watch looks stunning, including the watch faces.
Starting to doubt my order of the Moto 360 now though!

Wow! Great review and stunning collection of watch faces and really impressive collection of nato straps. I always wondered how they might look! Yours look brilliant.
I've had my Huawei Watch for over a month now. Still in the honeymoon period (can't wait to wear it each morning, still loving it). I have stuck with the same watch face throughout and, whilst I love the idea of changing up, I can't see me moving away from the quite brilliant Minimal and Elegant (I think that's the right way around!) face. It just suits the watch so perfectly. Brightness level 5, with 20 or so notifications a day. Charge overnight; watch on at 7am, off for charging at 7:30pm with between 57% and 62% charge left. Whilst not a fan of the actual charger, I see no problem charging my watch every night right next to my HTC phone.
I must say, despite being the VERY proud (and long-time) owner of 3 excellent manually wound watches: a Montblanc Reserve De Marche (used to use for workdays), an Omega Speedmaster (used to be my weekend watch), and a Patek Philippe Calatrava (for special occasions), I LOVE my multi-functional Huawei Watch and now starting to wonder why anyone would have a watch that could only tell the time!
Great review. Many thanks for sharing.
Pavoni.

Stunning watch! I'm now shopping for one....

Where did you pick-up the pins to hold the nato's on? I've been using these nato straps for years now. Super durable and inexpensive.
What app are you using for your faces? Just one app,or more than one?
Your Huawei is a beast!

Hanger4life said:
Where did you pick-up the pins to hold the nato's on? I've been using these nato straps for years now. Super durable and inexpensive.
What app are you using for your faces? Just one app,or more than one?
Your Huawei is a beast!
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The pins are just your normal 18mm pins. Mine came in a watch repair kit. I use watchmaker and all these watch faces were downloaded from facerepo.
Also the Nato straps were cheap cheap. Got them on Aliexpress. 10 for 16 bucks.

Do you have links or names for those faces on facerepo?
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Do you have links or names for those faces on facerepo?
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That will take awhile to post. I suggest you sort by round face+most downloaded.
Note, ALL moto360 faces(with the flat tire) on facerepo are compatible with the huawei(and will display as fully round).

Singuy1234 said:
This review is not about how the Huawei functions as an andriod wear, but a review of how it is as a watch. Please enjoy the pictures below.
Every picture was taken when the watch is in AMBIENT MODE (AKA "always on" mode). This is how the watch will look despite looking at it or not. The one thing I love about this watch is that I am never wearing a blank(turned off) display. Because a lot these user made watch faces have an ambient mode that is just a little dimmer than active mode, I can pair the watch face with different color nato straps for extra style. Most people thought I was wearing a real watch. They only notice that it's a smart watch at night time when the display is brighter than it should be.
Battery Life in ambient mode: 3-4% per hour. Even with the bright watch faces, you will get 1.5 days of battery life easy(assuming a 16 hour day of always on). I have taken the watch off the charger at 10am, wore it for 14 hours always on, slept with it in theater mode at midnight(watch face off), and wore it another 14 hours till midnight with 12% left. Please note, I probably get less than average amount of notifications. Charge time from 12%-full in less than 1 hour. The brightness in dimmed ambient mode is the same as brightness level 1. You can read the watch in sunlight in ambient mode, but it is kind of dark.
Always active mode: sweeping second hand is working meaning the gpu is always on. You will get 2-3 hours of battery life so it's not recommended. You can force the watch into this mode with an app. Or else it dims to ambient mode after 5 seconds-120 second(depending on your setting).
Burn in: I know most are afraid of burn in since this is a AMOLED display with ambient mode on for hours on end. So far I have no burn in issues (not even ghost images). I change my watch face once daily. When in ambient mode, the watch face shifts slightly every couple of minutes as burn in protection.
The second hand does not move in ambient mode, the watch face updates every min(meaning the hour and minute hand moves. Some watch faces have functioning chrono and working bezels.
My conclusion: As a watch for watch lovers, the Huawei watch blows the competition out of the water. Only two watches come close, the Urbane and the Urbane 2nd edition. I argue that the Urbane is not as stylish due to the thicker bezel and the second edition had a recall. I am sitting here wondering why anyone would pick up an apple watch when something like the Huawei watch can achieve a greater battery life with the screen always on. As a fashion device with a great deal of functionality built in, you can't get any better than this!(for now).
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Where you got those cloth bands and are they quick release
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Where you got those cloth bands and are they quick release
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They are not quick releases. Just search for Nato straps 18mm on aliexpress(or amazon.com). You'll also need a watch tool and the 18mm bars. Once the bars are on, you can quickly swap out the nato straps. To go back to the leather strap, you'll need to disconnect the bars with the watch tool.

@Singuy1234 Wow! those combinations and watchfaces looks awesome!!! could you please share the faces?
Greetings!

Wow do you have the link from AlienExpress for those straps?
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Great review! I'm now confident in buying one of these. I felt burned by the 1st Gen Moto 360 and was wary of buying another smartwatch.

Great watch.
Android 2.0 is awful.

Would you buy one today?

Hey everyone,
So I like to bike maybe once a week and have typically used Map My Ride or Strava to, well, map my rides. But I'm on Project Fi now so am becoming a miser with my data. I was thinking of getting a SW3 and using GhostRacer and the built in GPS to handle that but wanted to see if it is still worth it. I know the 360 Sport is around but the reviews haven't been stellar. Assuming the price is in the $100-$125 range is it still worth it?
I do also go to the gym a couple of days a week so keeping music on the watch and using headphones is a plus as well.
Thanks,

I owned both SW3 and Moto 360 Sport, however I just sold the 360 Sport yesterday because the battery drained on it a lot faster than on the SW3. I prefered the look of the Moto 360 Sport over the SW3 even though I own the SS, Universal strap and silicone strap for the SW3. Both are also water resistant.
Here is a breakdown of pro and cons.
The display of both watches are similar other than round vs square, however the Moto display is a bit nicer with more vibrant colors and while in ambient mode it's in color vs b&w.
Moto 360 Sport also has a built in optical HR monitor SW3 does not.
SW3 has replaceable watch band, infinite combination, Moto 360 Sport comes in White, Black, and Orange and you can not replace the bands.
Again, battery life is night and day better on the SW3 additionally you can charge is with any Micro USB cable vs a proprietary wireless charger. Additionally SW3 charges really fast, almost 2X faster than Moto 360 Sport.
SW3 has built in NFC, you can't do much with it now but future updates may give you more options.
I haven't used either watch with the headphones, so I can't comment on that aspect of the watch.
So I would say go with SW3 and save some money, you'll have no regrets.

Had the SW3 for about 6 months now and I love it. I use it for tracking runs, playing music paired with BT headphones and for keeping track of my appointments. It's great for the price, but I suggest holding out a while longer until announcements for support (or lack thereof) for Android Wear 2.0 come out. Motorola has confirmed it won't be getting the software update for the 1st gen Moto360, so there's a good chance the SW3 won't either..so you might be better off getting one of the newer models. I'm thinking the price might still go down if it won't support AW 2.0, but if it does, at the current price it's a steal.

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Motorola has confirmed it won't be getting the software update for the 1st gen Moto360, so there's a good chance the SW3 won't either..so you might be better off getting one of the newer models.
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Because first gen has bad processor and bad battery.
SW3 has same processor than Moto 2nd gen and other actual wear watch.

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Because first gen has bad processor and bad battery.
SW3 has same processor than Moto 2nd gen and other actual wear watch.
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I won't get my hopes up. It may have the hardware requirements , but seeing as the SW3 was the last of the 1st gen devices to get the recent android update, Sony may not be too keen on putting any more effort into the device. Still a great device for the price it's going for now though, and a good entry point into Android Wear for minimal $. Just bear in mind that when purchasing any piece of tech, it's bound to become obsolete in a year or so, simply because that's how fast technology is evolving. Hardly anything is future-proof these days.

I have this watch for a couple of months now and yes I absolutely love it. Might even buy a second one, for no other reason than having a spare, just in case. I'm sad that smart watches aren't really popular - I'd love to have a SW3 with better hardware and a heart rate sensor - but this watch is great. I use it for stuff like skating and thanks to the great location tracking, I can safely leave my phone at home, and when I'm back it will sync my whole route. This took a looong time the last time I did it, but ok, I rode for 30km so that's probably a lot of data to sync. Now I can see my entire route back on Google Fit. I really love that.
As a sysadmin I also use my watch for easy notifications, and for dispatching tasks to Tasker, using WearTasker. It's great that I don't need to take my phone each time I get a notification. This also applies to when I'm driving - using my phone when I'm on the road is something I absolutely never do, and now, when I get a message, I get it on my watch, so at least I can see if it's something urgent.
The voice capabilities work well enough to also make this a lovable feature.
The rubber wrist band fits nicely. I also bought a, what's the name, the plastic thing in which you can fit a band of your own choice. But I like the rubber band a lot more.
The display works great with a screen protector and the light sensor also works good.
All in all.. what's there not to love about this watch?

Have had mine for about seven months now. Overall I'm very happy with the watch and will probably (hopefully) keep it for a long time.
I'm most impressed by the battery life, which is great, and the durability of the display. I'm very neurotic about my phone's screen, always using tempered glass protectors, but I've worn the SW3 without any kind of screen condom pretty much all the time for over half a year, and the display still looks like brand spanking new. Thing is tough, is what I'm saying.

I just went through all of this myself when my original SW3 broke. I went through all of the available smartwatches and started narrowing them down. I like running but hate taking my phone because of its size (6p). I found an awesome Amazon Warehouse deal on a 360 Sport. The band is a deal breaker. Plain and simple. Its awful. Everything sticks to it and it was uncomfortable for me. This wouldn't be an issue normally, but you cannot replace the band...ever. Also, potential issue with the 360 Sport is IP67 water resistance vs IP68 on the Sony SW3.
I also tried the Samsung Gear S due to its IP68 rating and heart rate. While the fit and finish is above and beyond what the SW3 has to offer, I missed the always-on TFT screen, Wear, Google Now (voice commands work amazingly well), and my customized Watchmaker Premium face (with Tasker integration .
I would still choose the SW3 today due to these things: battery life (2 days not uncommon), TFT display (always on without killing battery-visible in direct sunlight), ambient light sensor (I'm looking at you Huawei and Asus), microUSB charging (yes, it's kinda a pain, but you can charge anywhere-getting a right-angle USB cable helps make it less annoying to plug in), and interchangeable bands (I have 2 bands now. They are comfortable for me and quick clasp). Lack of heart rate does not bother me b/c I don't think any wrist-based HR is accurate enough to matter.
Note: I use my SW3 with headphones all the time. Works great. Syncing music is cake with Play Music, though, since it has USB, I would prefer if it supported MTP and you could just drag and drop whatever straight to the device. Definitely not a problem, just annoying to have to wait for all your offline music to sync over BT.

My main issue with my SW3 is the very very.... poor readability indoor in dim mode. With low light it is very difficult to read. And with only black & white dim mode most of the wear face are very bad. Even the pebble time LCD screen color is much better
Good outdoor 1% of the time but bad indoor 99% of the time.

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My main issue with my SW3 is the very very.... poor readability indoor in dim mode. With low light it is very difficult to read. And with only black & white dim mode most of the wear face are very bad. Even the pebble time LCD screen color is much better
Good outdoor 1% of the time but bad indoor 99% of the time.
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I will say that the LCD in the SW3 is not the best for viewing angles and resolution. However, readability is never an issue for me. The main reason is the ambient light sensor. I tried a Zenwatch 2 (which is a nice watch for the money), but the lack of the ambient light sensor meant the screen was always too dim or too bright. I don't want to fiddle with brightness every time I go outside or back inside. Yes, the always on TFT mode is going not the greatest for inside, but that's not its point. Still, sitting here at my desk under weak, florescent light, I can read it perfectly at a glance. That is another selling point for this watch. It is fairly useful as a watch...lol.

I am bit disappointed with my SW3, or more with Android Wear actually.
Besides notifications I have not been able to find much use for it. I had Pebble for two years and loved the way it handled notifications, with a certain third party app though. IMO Android Wear is quite clumsy and I miss more customisation options especially with the way notifications are handled. My battery lasts about a day and a night. For a smartwatch I guess that is not bad but I do miss Pebble's several days of juice.
So I am not sure if I would buy one now that I have used SW3 for few months...
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Which Smart Watch?
I own the Sony S3 Smartwatch, the Samsung Gear S2 and two Moto 360 2nd generation watches. Yes, I have four smart watches for no reason other than I love gadgets. I also owned the Huawei smart watch for about a week before I exchanged it for a Moto 360. The Huawei is great but I have huge wrists. So the Moto looks best on my wrist. Anyway, I use each watch for different activities. Each watch has it's pros and cons and correlates directly to which activities they are best for. For instance, the Sony Smartwatch has the best waterproof rating. So I wear the Sony to the beach and for playing beach volleyball (any activity with the possibility of submersion). The Sony is also one of the only watches with on-board GPS. That's great when you want to track your movement without lugging the phone around with you. The Samsung Gear S2 is probably the most versatile and it's sort of a hybrid between a sports watch and a casual dinner watch (depends on which band you install). The Samsung works great in every aspect and is probably the best overall performer but you cannot wear it as a luxury piece. It just does not have the look of a luxury piece. That's where the Moto 360 2nd Gen comes into play. The Moto performs great but you don't want to wear it playing beach volleyball. The Moto is designed to look like a luxury time piece and it looks the part. Of course the stock straps with the Moto are absolute garbage. You will want to order good thick leather straps online (or nice stainless steel). Once you have installed the new 3rd party strap your Moto will look very much like a fine time piece similar to a Breitling, Tagheur, Omega, etc.... Then you just need to use the Watchmaker premium app to download hundreds of custom watch faces that resemble luxury time pieces. In conclusion, if you want the smart watch solely for exercise I suggest the Sony S3. If you want a very nice (large) watch that looks like a Rolex I'd suggest the Moto 360 (46 mm). If you want a smart watch for the office and exercising I'd suggest the Samsung Gear S2. Most importantly, all three of these watches are top performers with good processors and great screens. So the only thing that differs greatly is the appearance of the piece itself.