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So i installed Juice Defender and immediately noticed a sizable boost in Battery life... BUT... my Data connection was more flaky then it was at stock
So one day when it is critcal mass I uninstall it real quick so I can have the data connection I needed so badly at that moment. Well... after that the battery performance has been MUCH worse than it ever was before.
Anybody deal with this yet? Anybody know how to set the program not to mess with the data... or how to....????
My rooted GNEX config is in the sig.
I found that is messed up my data connection too but that's the most part if how it works to save your battery by switching to 2g when screen off and 3g while screen on. At least that's how its meant to be. I uninstalled it as 3g would rarely come back on.
Look into other settings to save your battery like screen brightness, auto snyc, GPS, wifi (if your not in a place with it), lock sounds, key press sounds, vibrate on touch, vibrate on key press in keyboard. There's loads of things lime that which really help.
Maybe also look into certain apps being high memory usage in settings menu and look into how many apps you got installed.
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This may not be of much help, but I used it for a long time with my tbolt and never had an issue, but no matter what I did with the bionic it would almost never regain data with screen on. So I think it *might* have something to do with the actual hardware. Don't quote me, just my two cents. However, after uninstalling on the bionic I didn't have anymore issues with data than I had before installing.
Oh, and I forgot to mention that juice defender saves battery by killing the data connection. It doesn't save battery any other way.
Same deal here. I just set the app to not mess with Mobile Data by clicking the customize button under profile and going into the new Settings tab that shows up then disabling the Mobile Data option. Still testing...
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I had trouble with juice defender also so I changed to using 2x battery and I have had much better results.
Toggle the 4G by swiping down and unselecting 4G, wait 10 seconds, then toggle 4G back on. It will come back, everytime for me.
ever since Gingerbread came out, JuiceDefender is not recommended for android OS
Pretty much the only major thing Juice Defender can do to "help" battery drain is turn off your network (or toggle it to 2G only on GSM phones, 3G only on LTE phones) when the screen is off.
It generally wastes more battery frequently toggling it on/off when the screen changes state than it saves by doing so. Not to mention that you can't get background alerts etc. when Juice Defender is toggling your data around.
The only time it ever really saves you anything is if you're not turning your screen on for long periods of time, in that case you could simply manually toggle off your data if you know that will be the case. Juice Defender runs as a process in the bakcground constantly, which effects your battery negatively also.
martonikaj said:
Pretty much the only major thing Juice Defender can do to "help" battery drain is turn off your network (or toggle it to 2G only on GSM phones, 3G only on LTE phones) when the screen is off.
It generally wastes more battery frequently toggling it on/off when the screen changes state than it saves by doing so. Not to mention that you can't get background alerts etc. when Juice Defender is toggling your data around.
The only time it ever really saves you anything is if you're not turning your screen on for long periods of time, in that case you could simply manually toggle off your data if you know that will be the case. Juice Defender runs as a process in the background constantly, which effects your battery negatively also.
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pretty much what he said. I used JD Ultimate for a month before I gave up on it. I don't notice any decrease in battery life since I did so. Betterbatterystats showed an awfully high number of wakelocks when JD was active. The wifi "Location" feature was nice though.
Like previous posters have said, the problem with JD is that when it toggles you data, it will force your phone into an awake state which drains a bit of battery. I'd like to add that, from personal experience, if you usually have JD toggle your data on more frequently than at 20-30 minute intervals, you might as well turn off JD. The battery saved from turning your data off and the battery wasted putting your phone on an awake state isn't worth it. On the other hand, if you toggle your data less frequently than every 30 minutes, the benefit exceeds the cost and JD actually helps you save battery.
Since I need my data more often than that I have turned off the data connection management. I still leave JD on for the location-based Wi-Fi management though. That's actually useful and saves me having to worry about turning on my Wi-Fi when I get home/to college.
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I'm never a fan of any so-called battery saving app.
All they do is turn off your data or turn down the brightness.
MilkPudding said:
I'm never a fan of any so-called battery saving app.
All they do is turn off your data or turn down the brightness.
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I'm a fan of Back button long-press kills app. Then i just check for bg processes of said app and kill them as well.
If i have apps that need background sync, i always make sure either to leave wifi or data on (i know it won't need much, a few KBs maybe) so that apps will have connectivity when they need it, or, if available, sign out of the app (examples: gtalk, latitude). It will cost me more battery if the app keeps trying to find network connectivity and not having it, than the drain of wifi on or data call active.
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Pretty much the only major thing Juice Defender can do to "help" battery drain is turn off your network (or toggle it to 2G only on GSM phones, 3G only on LTE phones) when the screen is off.
It generally wastes more battery frequently toggling it on/off when the screen changes state than it saves by doing so. Not to mention that you can't get background alerts etc. when Juice Defender is toggling your data around.
The only time it ever really saves you anything is if you're not turning your screen on for long periods of time, in that case you could simply manually toggle off your data if you know that will be the case. Juice Defender runs as a process in the bakcground constantly, which effects your battery negatively also.
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That explains why I have missed Kik and FB alerts all week! Cheers
#uninstalled
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Chrono_Tata said:
Like previous posters have said, the problem with JD is that when it toggles you data, it will force your phone into an awake state which drains a bit of battery. I'd like to add that, from personal experience, if you usually have JD toggle your data on more frequently than at 20-30 minute intervals, you might as well turn off JD. The battery saved from turning your data off and the battery wasted putting your phone on an awake state isn't worth it. On the other hand, if you toggle your data less frequently than every 30 minutes, the benefit exceeds the cost and JD actually helps you save battery.
Since I need my data more often than that I have turned off the data connection management. I still leave JD on for the location-based Wi-Fi management though. That's actually useful and saves me having to worry about turning on my Wi-Fi when I get home/to college.
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I disagree. When I used it on my tbolt went from a drain of 40-60 mAh to 20-25 mAh using battery monitor widget polling at 60 sec intervals. And I never missed anything. But I used jd ultimate that allowed data when apps requested it. I also typically got 6 extra hours of use, which meant I could make it though an entire work shift vs. having to recharge after lunch. The only reason I'm not currently using it is because of issue with the bionic data not restarting. That's the reason I think it's an issue with hardware compatibility. Because even if I let the stock Android manage the data connection I still have issues with data restarting on the bionic.
Juice defender did really extend my battery but I found the only part I really used was the WiFi location feature. I started using WiFi unlock at home and got [email protected] to turn off WiFi when I'm away from home then turn it back on when I get home. Yes, I'm that lazy/forgetful.
JuiceDefender was great on Gingerbread and Froyo, but I've noticed that it just seemed to hurt more than help on Honeycomb and ICS. My battery life on my GNex, in my use case, went up when I uninstalled it, as did the data drops I'd been having.
I suspect that as stock power consumption continues to drop with new OSes, JuiceDefender is going to be viewed as a relic of a bygone era.
I will have to say that it has helped my battery but in my work environment I lose signal while my phone is in my pocket plus I can't check my phone for two hrs or more. So I would say in my case it has helped since I would forget to turn data off. I also changed my settings to toggle data every 30 min instead of the default of 15.
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1454 said:
I disagree. When I used it on my tbolt went from a drain of 40-60 mAh to 20-25 mAh using battery monitor widget polling at 60 sec intervals. And I never missed anything. But I used jd ultimate that allowed data when apps requested it. I also typically got 6 extra hours of use, which meant I could make it though an entire work shift vs. having to recharge after lunch. The only reason I'm not currently using it is because of issue with the bionic data not restarting. That's the reason I think it's an issue with hardware compatibility. Because even if I let the stock Android manage the data connection I still have issues with data restarting on the bionic.
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I was talking about JD's performance on ICS; on the Galaxy Nexus specifically. JD was great on my old Gingerbread and Froyo phones but with ICS it seems to be obsolete (under the conditions I described in my previous post at least). I don't know if it's just how ICS works or if it's because JD hasn't been optimised properly for ICS but that's how it is right now.
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I bought JD Ultimate, and eventually had to uninstall it after I found it was causing too many glitches in ICS. I wasted 4.99, but live and learn I guess.
Tasker
I found this cool app Tasker. It can do functions defined by you on meeting the circumstances you have defined. Like, I have a profile of enabling GPS on openining of maps and disabling afterwards.
Description:
Automate everything from settings to photos, SMS to speech ADC2 prize winner. Total Automation, from settings to SMS ADC2 finalist!
* Triggers: App, Time, Day, Location, Hard/Soft State, Event, Shortcut, Widget, Timer,Plugins
* Actions: 200+ built-in, plugin support
* Tasks: loops, variables, condition
* Scenes: design your own screen overlays,dialogs even simple apps
Play Store Link:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.dinglisch.android.taskerm&hl=en
Noob/Beginners Guide To Tasker:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1110775
This is illegal, if you cant buy an app dont use it.
It's a paid app
WORTH EVERY PENNY
I have automated mine to do the following
As soon as I enter my work car park, it drops the volumes, switches off WIFI
I leave my work car park, volume to max,
I enter home, WIFI on, Volume max
after 11pm - 6.30am everything on silent, wifi & data off
then when i scan my NFC tag in the car, switches on GPS, loads co pilot
re-scan tag, turns off GPS and closes co-pilot
winwiz said:
It's a paid app
WORTH EVERY PENNY
I have automated mine to do the following
As soon as I enter my work car park, it drops the volumes, switches off WIFI
I leave my work car park, volume to max,
I enter home, WIFI on, Volume max
after 11pm - 6.30am everything on silent, wifi & data off
then when i scan my NFC tag in the car, switches on GPS, loads co pilot
re-scan tag, turns off GPS and closes co-pilot
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Sounds cool
But mine is too extra complicated to share, I now have over 30
But the most i like is nightmode,
It make brightness 10/255 and opens an app screenfilter
It makes brightness extremely low and this all happens from 12am-3 am
IF YOU LIKE MY WORK, THANK ME BY THE BUTTON BELOW
Anyone knows what effect this has on battery life?
It doesnt waste battery that much, why dont.you try it and see battery stats
IF YOU LIKE MY WORK, THANK ME BY THE BUTTON BELOW
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Anyone knows what effect this has on battery life?
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Was thinking the same. Any partial/wakelock issues caused by the program constantly assessing the environment. As it happens I am thinking of using the program to reduce battery drain and shutting down WiFi when out of range of home networks but if it's negated by the situation above it seems pointless for my needs.
Any one care to comment?
I've been using Tasker for a couple of years accross 4 different devices now (X10i, DHD, TF101 and GS3). I have a lot of profiles set up to do various different things and I can honestly say I've never seen a noticeable effect on battery life.
That said though I don't use the GPS location state at all. I imagine that particular state would drain battery pretty quickly. I use the WiFi Near state a lot though and, as I've said, never really noticed a detrimental drain on the battery.
I suppose it depends on what you do with it but overall IMO it's a very well written app. Extremely useful too.
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Waiting for app sale. The price is slightly higher than what I'm prepared to spend, especially because there is a free alternative from Microsoft called on{X}: http://techcrunch.com/2012/06/05/onx/
SunjinSak said:
I've been using Tasker for a couple of years accross 4 different devices now (X10i, DHD, TF101 and GS3). I have a lot of profiles set up to do various different things and I can honestly say I've never seen a noticeable effect on battery life.
That said though I don't use the GPS location state at all. I imagine that particular state would drain battery pretty quickly. I use the WiFi Near state a lot though and, as I've said, never really noticed a detrimental drain on the battery.
I suppose it depends on what you do with it but overall IMO it's a very well written app. Extremely useful too.
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Yep! This is what I was hoping to use it for too. My betterbatterystats has identified my Wifi as the one real drain on what is still a very good battery life. So although I could turn it off myself I just know I will forget to turn it back on at home and would like a program to do it for me. BUT if one negates the other it's not worth the effort.
Greedyfly said:
Yep! This is what I was hoping to use it for too. My betterbatterystats has identified my Wifi as the one real drain on what is still a very good battery life. So although I could turn it off myself I just know I will forget to turn it back on at home and would like a program to do it for me. BUT if one negates the other it's not worth the effort.
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Well your WiFi has to be on to use the WiFi Near state. You could potentially combine it with a Time state too though. Just for example you could have Tasker turn WiFi on for 1 minute once an hour to check for your network(s) then either turn off again if no network detected or connect and remain on if a network is detected... if that makes any sense!
It would save battery compared to leaving WiFi on all the time.
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What effect does it have on, I have a task to turn of Wi-Fi during 10am and 1pm; but I try to turn on Wi-Fi during this period. Will it automatically turn it off again, or allow me to continue to use Wi-Fi?
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Well your WiFi has to be on to use the WiFi Near state. You could potentially combine it with a Time state too though. Just for example you could have Tasker turn WiFi on for 1 minute once an hour to check for your network(s) then either turn off again if no network detected or connect and remain on if a network is detected... if that makes any sense!
It would save battery compared to leaving WiFi on all the time.
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Perfect sense. Thank you.
T__ said:
What effect does it have on, I have a task to turn of Wi-Fi during 10am and 1pm; but I try to turn on Wi-Fi during this period. Will it automatically turn it off again, or allow me to continue to use Wi-Fi?
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It will allow you to continue to use it. That sort of profile works as a toggle based on the time state so at 10am it will turn it off - but only at 10am. If you were to turn it on again straight away it would stay on until you either turn it off manually or another profile kicks in which is set to turn it off again. The same goes for anything else such as ringer/silent/vibrate, mobile data, GPS etc.
@Greedyfly: you're welcome
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You guys can try Llama...does the same thing and cost nothing....i am using it for couple of days and it is good.
Indian_dil said:
You guys can try Llama...does the same thing and cost nothing....i am using it for couple of days and it is good.
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Tasker can do wonders...but it requires you to be some kind of Tasker-scientist to get things done. I recently discovered Llama as well. It's free and simple but capable.
Yeah Tasker does have a reasonably steep learning curve admittedly. By no means insurmountable to most though.
I suppose it depends on what/how you want to automate. Tasker is very powerful but not so simple. Llama is free and easier to use but no so powerful.
Both are good automation solutions. Locale is another one to check out.
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I've been using Tasker for the best part of a year now, awesome piece of software. Negligible impact on battery life and it's astoundingly powerful. A few examples of profiles I currently use - detects headphones/bluetooth headset and reads any text and who sent it, useful when cycling or out on the bike. Disables screen lock when at home, I use the phone as a control for my media centre so it remains unlocked at home and turns the screen on as soon as the handset is picked up, controls a variety of connection states according to location and time.
These are just scratching the surface. On top of this I've had direct dealings with the dev on a couple of occasions, genuinely nice bloke who does his damndest to solve problems as quickly as possible. All in all, this and Titanium backup are by far the two most useful pieces of software I've bought:good:
wind0zer said:
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Tasker can do wonders...but it requires you to be some kind of Tasker-scientist to get things done. I recently discovered Llama as well. It's free and simple but capable.
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But Tasker is better, even if its complicated
Thats the reason i gave a link to a noob friendly guide
Press the "Thanks" button below if I've helped.
I love tasker even if it drains my battery(but it doesn't)
Press the "Thanks" button below if I've helped.
To start off with; i get good battery life; right now I'm at 1 day 3 hours and I have 39% left.
I was wondering however, does setting the Wifi to go off when the screen is off help significantly on the battery? And if so...is there some other negative issue that I'm not aware of if I set it this way?
I'm pretty sure any sort of data connection will use more of your battery than WiFi will. So if you're always around a strong WiFi connection you probably should leave it on at all times.
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I'm pretty sure any sort of data connection will use more of your battery than WiFi will. So if you're always around a strong WiFi connection you probably should leave it on at all times.
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That's one of the things that i was wondering about....thanks.
rpavich said:
To start off with; i get good battery life; right now I'm at 1 day 3 hours and I have 39% left.
I was wondering however, does setting the Wifi to go off when the screen is off help significantly on the battery? And if so...is there some other negative issue that I'm not aware of if I set it this way?
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how the hell are you getting 1 day 3 hours!?!?!??!?! what are your settings? teeeeeell meeeeeeeee!
thanks.
slicetwo said:
how the hell are you getting 1 day 3 hours!?!?!??!?! what are your settings? teeeeeell meeeeeeeee!
thanks.
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Oh that is funny.
I just do everything everyone else does:
1.) Screen off when not in use
2.) Screen brightness down as much as possible.
3.) Dark theme.
4.) Tasker profiles to turn off wifi when not near my house or work.
5.) Tasker profile to turn off GPS when not actively using certain apps.
6.) Tasker profile to turn off BT when not connected.
I also am probably a light user...the only thing that I do beyond normal phone use is to watch Netflix a slight bit a day and stream Spotify a bit.
I also don't play games except Words with friends.
No FB no locations, no nothing like that.
Wifi off and data off would be most helping when screen off
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So I want to have Pandora play continuously, as it currently stops when the screen locks. After some searching, it looks like the fix is to keep mobile data always on.
However 'Settings > Wireless & Networks > Mobile Networks > Enable always-on mobile data' DOES NOT EXIST. What gives?
From what I can tell by doing a simple Google image search, the only phones to even have this option are pre ICS/JB.
If the option has been removed, is there any way to bring it back? If not, can I do anything else to have Pandora keep playing after the screen has been locked for a few minutes? I don't have any battery optimization apps (JuiceDefender, etc) installed that could be causing data to drop.
I'm on a GSM Galaxy Nexus (T-Mobile) running 4.1.1 rooted.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks in advanced.
Pandora stops playing when your screen turns off? That seems more like a network throttling problem. Once your screen turns off it throttles down to 2g? I've never had a problem with pandora not playing when the screen locks.
Yeah, the next song wont load.
I don't think it's throttling down to 2G, I'm pretty sure it just disconnects from mobile data.
I'm not the only one with this issue (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=698172)
That is very strange.
Instead of trying to set data to always on, try setting screen on to always on.
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Data always on while the screen is off is the default. There is no settings option to control what happens with mobile data when the screen is off. There's an option for WiFi, but not mobile data.
Are you sure you don't have an app that's turning off your mobile data when your screen is off? That's usually what's happening in these situations.
Could also be an issue with Pandora. Have you tried other apps and experienced the same thing? Also, you'd be able to see the data being turned back on when you turn the screen on (it takes several seconds). If you turn the screen on and it shows its connected in the status bar, the data isn't turning off and you're having another problem.
them resamel
martonikaj said:
Data always on while the screen is off is the default. There is no settings option to control what happens with mobile data when the screen is off. There's an option for WiFi, but not mobile data.
Are you sure you don't have an app that's turning off your mobile data when your screen is off? That's usually what's happening in these situations.
Could also be an issue with Pandora. Have you tried other apps and experienced the same thing? Also, you'd be able to see the data being turned back on when you turn the screen on (it takes several seconds). If you turn the screen on and it shows its connected in the status bar, the data isn't turning off and you're having another problem.
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I'm sure there is no other app that's controlling this. I did however mess around with multiple 'toggle' apps when I first got the phone. Maybe I toggled the wrong thing. Would the setting stick even through an un-install of the app?
When I unlock the phone sometimes, the internet icon in the status bar is grey. It turns to blue shortly after. From what I have read though, this is normal to some extent, right?
I think you're right about this being a Pandora issue. I just realized that I use the default music app to stream all of my music through Google Play with the phone locked for hours on end and no issues at all.
Not sure how to fix Pandora though. The songs stop playing even on wifi when I lock the screen. I even have 'Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep' set to Always. I'd hate to not use Pandora much because of this, since I just find out how to get unlimited skips and no ads.
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That is very strange.
Instead of trying to set data to always on, try setting screen on to always on.
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Yeah I could do that when plugged in and charging, but I don't want to kill battery when not.
Are you under clocking your device?
You could try the WIFI high performance widget when you are on WiFi, but I don't know if will help when on mobile data.
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It's not the app. Been using Pandora since I got the Gnex with no issues. Do you have some battery saving app? That may turn off data when screen is off...
Edit: Also AOKP has the auto data off in settings I believe.. are you on stock rooted ROM? I saw you say you have no app but something is turning off your data.
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Are you under clocking your device?
You could try the WIFI high performance widget when you are on WiFi, but I don't know if will help when on mobile data.
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WIFI high performance totally works! Thank you. The strange thing is even though the app doesn't work over mobile data (obviously), Pandora magically started working with the phone locked on mobile data. I even uninstalled the app, and it still works over. However, it won't continue streaming for me on wifi unless I enable WIFI high performance. Not a huge deal, I'm just happy it works.
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It's not the app. Been using Pandora since I got the Gnex with no issues. Do you have some battery saving app? That may turn off data when screen is off...
Edit: Also AOKP has the auto data off in settings I believe.. are you on stock rooted ROM? I saw you say you have no app but something is turning off your data.
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I'm rooted on the stock ROM and I'm sure nothing is turning it off. It actually magically works now over mobile date, but I still have issues on wifi unless I enable the widget mentioned above. Yours streams over wifi no problem?
Anyone else having this problem? My places in location settings is greyed out so I can't turn it on.
Did you run Google maps and update your home location first?
Yes. Google Maps knows my home location. Weather seems to know where I am. Anything else I have to update?
Idk of anything else.
On my G4, GPS has to be on or my places is greyed out.
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Doesn't seem to matter on my phone. Stays off even when GPS is on.
Factory reset.
Turn on data
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Factory reset.
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Thanks. Yeah, probably so, but I've got the phone completely set up the way I like it and I'm reluctant to go through it all again just for "My Places". If that's what it will take I'll probably just install Llama which will handle this and a whole lot more.
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Turn on data
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That's an idea. I'll give it a try. I've been keeping data turned off except when I need it because on the HTC One M7 it seemed to really affect battery life even though I wasn't using it and I value the long battery life on the G4 more than I think I would value "My Places". Still maybe it won't have the battery effect on the G4 that it had on the M7. On the M7 at night I would turn off WiFi too and put it into extreme battery saving mode and I'd still lose 12 to 15% overnight. On the G4 I don't bother to turn off WiFi at night and there is no extreme battery saving mode but I only lost 1 or 2 % overnight. What a great phone!
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Turn on data
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You were right. Turning on data did the trick. Requires data and GPS on. Not sure I'll keep it depending on battery usage, but thanks.
Tried it overnight with data and GPS turned on and it lost 8% vs losing 1 or 2 % with them off. So it's goodbye to My Places. Llama does an even better job and doesn't cost the battery power. I can quickly turn on data and GPS when I need them. But thanks for the help.