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Hello all,
I was wondering if the thread --> [2012.11.08][SGH-I317/M] CF-Auto-Root v1.0 in the original android development is the only way to root the galaxy note 2 (at&t). Is it just "in the works"? is my main concern.
I know the possibility of methods being released later down the months when there is more support and development for the device.
The phone just came out so I'm not expecting a whole lot, but I was just concerned that maybe I should wait on rooting until a more stable method is released. I'm just worried that if I root I may not be able to go back to another method. Should I just root it now? Is there any benefit to rooting now vs later down the road?
Couldn't be any easier to do... Took like 1 minute from beginning to end. There is nothing unstable about it.
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It's truly a matter of personal opinion whether or not to root. Some of us flashaholics can't wait and some of us are trying to hold out until at least the first official OTA unless something comes out that we just can't resist lol
There are a few apps I'm missing right now by not rooting but then again the phone does damn near everything I need/want without customization/rom flashes. I would like to experience the multi view feature but I suppose in due time it will be here.
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DJHile said:
It's truly a matter of personal opinion whether or not to root. Some of us flashaholics can't wait and some of us are trying to hold out until at least the first official OTA unless something comes out that we just can't resist lol
There are a few apps I'm missing right now by not rooting but then again the phone does damn near everything I need/want without customization/rom flashes. I would like to experience the multi view feature but I suppose in due time it will be here.
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Yeah when is that multi-view feature coming? I thought it was supposed to be built into the software already...but yeah I agree with you. It depends on personal choice. I was wondering if the current root method was stable...
evo4gfan said:
Yeah when is that multi-view feature coming? I thought it was supposed to be built into the software already...but yeah I agree with you. It depends on personal choice. I was wondering if the current root method was stable...
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Current root method is stable... Did it earlier this morning.
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evo4gfan said:
Hello all,
I was wondering if the thread --> [2012.11.08][SGH-I317/M] CF-Auto-Root v1.0 in the original android development is the only way to root the galaxy note 2 (at&t). Is it just "in the works"? is my main concern.
I know the possibility of methods being released later down the months when there is more support and development for the device.
The phone just came out so I'm not expecting a whole lot, but I was just concerned that maybe I should wait on rooting until a more stable method is released. I'm just worried that if I root I may not be able to go back to another method. Should I just root it now? Is there any benefit to rooting now vs later down the road?
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Rooting is a personal thing. I'm a flashaholic to the core but I'm waiting for at&t to give us the OTA we need for split screen. I'm waiting for the right ROM to be cooked up before I even root my baby. But hey, that's just my personal preference right now.
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Rooting is worth it just to do nandroids, triangle away w/ a custom kernel (reset counter) & Titanium Backup (apps).
Since there is not a consolidated thread/forum for people who bought the unlocked t-mobile note 3 and use it on the AT&T network, I will make one here. This is for people who have any complaints or praises of their phone.
How is the reception of your phone?
Any problem with rooting or custom rom?
How is the performance after rooting or with custom rom?
Any regrets on buying the phone?
Then it should be on the AT&T forum.... People using the T-Mobile model on AT&T will probably go there to check for help.
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gordonzhao said:
Then it should be on the AT&T forum.... People using the T-Mobile model on AT&T will probably go there to check for help.
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Actually I think it fits this forum more. I was trying to figure out which forum is best and I think the t-mobile is better because of the hardware. Later on more ROMs and modding of the device would affect it.
It be better if it stay in T-mobile because every thing else about this particular model is here. So i personally would like to not jump between two different sections. IMHO.
Aren't they the same model?
dkb218 said:
Aren't they the same model?
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no...
I am trying to find a Thread which had APN settings for various providers including ATT and Straight talk. But i cant find that thread. I wanted to at-least reference that thread in this one. To consolidate helpful information. For those of us who are using Tmobile N3 on ATT network. AHA... Found it!
[Guide] T-mobile Note 3 on AT&T's Network/Root info/LTE Confirmed
If we put an AT&T rom from the AT&T rom development forum, it may mess up the t-mobile phone since they have different frequency band. Therefore, it is best to use the t-mobile ROMs and report any bugs here in this thread.
Both being same devices except for radio bands, we will see most of the roms being cross compatible.
In any case if the phone is factory unlocked you can put any room designed for the 900t on it and use it with att.
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gordonzhao said:
In any case if the phone is factory unlocked you can put any room designed for the 900t on it and use it with att.
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what i meant was u can put a rom compatible with n900a( att version ) in N900T ( tmob) and vice verssa .. But i would wait till someone tests it out..
Yes rom* and what I said is what I meant but of course some 900a roms MAY work with it but simple comparison is like using a n9000 (unlocked international model regardless of rom) on T-Mobile. Easiest method is to use the 900t roms and enter the apn for att of course. Just to clarify.
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Yes rom* and what I said is what I meant but of course some 900a roms MAY work with it but simple comparison is like using a n9000 (unlocked international model regardless of rom) on T-Mobile. Easiest method is to use the 900t roms and enter the apn for att of course. Just to clarify.
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Totally forgot about n9000. Same hardware
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I am an ATT Subscrber using a TMOBILE NOTE 3. The original NOTE I purchased I did the CF CHainfire Region unlock and it unlocked my SIM - but, I flashed a rom and did a Nadroid restore and borked my phone into constant bootloops - I picked up a second phone rooted it - and STUPID ME - tried flashing a second rom - this time I made the mistake of flashing an updated version of TWRP that ultimately BORKED MY PHONE AGAIN. ARGHH. I am not a noobie - I have been flashing roms for years and never had these issuses before.
I have my replacement NOTE 3 (I love TMOBILE customer service, though I don't think I can ever show up there again) and tis time I am being much more careful. I am rooted but I won't flash a custom recovery until I am certain things are more stable. Right now, too many phones are having issues - too many users in constant bootloops.
anyway - that is my experience so far. I love the NOTE 3 - Reception is Awesome - LTES speeds are just as good as they were on my ATT S4 - absolutely no complaints - EXCEPT I hate KNOX - which I think is the ultimate root of the problem so many people are having with Bootloops -
That's my story ..... happy to be here - and to be honest, for those that suggested we use ATT forum for this Thread - I think this belongs right where it is. We are using a TMOBILE PHONE - this thread belongs in the TMOBILE forum. Those are my two cents.
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I am an ATT Subscrber using a TMOBILE NOTE 3. The original NOTE I purchased I did the CF CHainfire Region unlock and it unlocked my SIM - but, I flashed a rom and did a Nadroid restore and borked my phone into constant bootloops - I picked up a second phone rooted it - and STUPID ME - tried flashing a second rom - this time I made the mistake of flashing an updated version of TWRP that ultimately BORKED MY PHONE AGAIN. ARGHH. I am not a noobie - I have been flashing roms for years and never had these issuses before.
I have my replacement NOTE 3 (I love TMOBILE customer service, though I don't think I can ever show up there again) and tis time I am being much more careful. I am rooted but I won't flash a custom recovery until I am certain things are more stable. Right now, too many phones are having issues - too many users in constant bootloops.
anyway - that is my experience so far. I love the NOTE 3 - Reception is Awesome - LTES speeds are just as good as they were on my ATT S4 - absolutely no complaints - EXCEPT I hate KNOX - which I think is the ultimate root of the problem so many people are having with Bootloops -
That's my story ..... happy to be here - and to be honest, for those that suggested we use ATT forum for this Thread - I think this belongs right where it is. We are using a TMOBILE PHONE - this thread belongs in the TMOBILE forum. Those are my two cents.
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Weren't able to go back to recovery? Typically if you're stuck in a boot loop the phone is obviously still responding. I hope you didn't toss the og notes!
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mocsab said:
I am an ATT Subscrber using a TMOBILE NOTE 3. The original NOTE I purchased I did the CF CHainfire Region unlock and it unlocked my SIM - but, I flashed a rom and did a Nadroid restore and borked my phone into constant bootloops - I picked up a second phone rooted it - and STUPID ME - tried flashing a second rom - this time I made the mistake of flashing an updated version of TWRP that ultimately BORKED MY PHONE AGAIN. ARGHH. I am not a noobie - I have been flashing roms for years and never had these issuses before.
I have my replacement NOTE 3 (I love TMOBILE customer service, though I don't think I can ever show up there again) and tis time I am being much more careful. I am rooted but I won't flash a custom recovery until I am certain things are more stable. Right now, too many phones are having issues - too many users in constant bootloops.
anyway - that is my experience so far. I love the NOTE 3 - Reception is Awesome - LTES speeds are just as good as they were on my ATT S4 - absolutely no complaints - EXCEPT I hate KNOX - which I think is the ultimate root of the problem so many people are having with Bootloops -
That's my story ..... happy to be here - and to be honest, for those that suggested we use ATT forum for this Thread - I think this belongs right where it is. We are using a TMOBILE PHONE - this thread belongs in the TMOBILE forum. Those are my two cents.
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Well said. I vote to leave it here as well. I will be looking for roms on this site...I have rooted my unlocked T-Mobile Note 3. Flashed recovery thru goomanager, and...flashed Darthstalker rom version 2. No KNOX or carrier id...running very smooth and loving it very much. At the same time, I plan on being very careful after listening to all the trouble many have had with recovery. Hang in there Guys. We are just a few days into this big journey.
Too scared to do anything with mine, stock N900T.
gordonzhao said:
Weren't able to go back to recovery? Typically if you're stuck in a boot loop the phone is obviously still responding. I hope you didn't toss the og notes!
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I like every other person who was experiencing the Bootloops of death tried everything to get the phone working again - once it started I could not get past the bootloops regardless of what was tried - I ended up tyring to restore with ODIN but that didn't do any good - and once I had done that, I only had stock recovery - I could boot into Stock recovery - but couldn't do anything to get the phone to actually boot up. I have heard talk from others who said they think it was KNOX locking up the phone - others said it was patitions that were bad - I have no idea - but anyway - the only option I had was to return the phone. I am only grateful they gave me a new one. And no, I didnlt have any OG notes - not even sure what they are...? Go into the QA section and you can read all about the problems I and others have had - and it not just a few people - it is a pretty significant number...
You said you bricked the note I (og note as I was referring to) I was talking about that the whole time, not referencing the note 3 whatsoever...
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Yo!
I am now a member of this party. Currently scouting this out on the xda.
Information still seems a bit conflicted at this point.
I too am too scared to do much to the phab at this point, and am concerned about getting ROMS. Like my LTE Verizon Tab 10.1, there may be very few of usin the group, and we will have limited options but hopefully like another post said, the T mobile ROMS should work, just add the APN. With the Verizon Tab, it had different issues from the wifi versions and ROMS were hard to come by.
Is our phone different, meaning it has more LTE bands than the ATT?
Could we get a zip file to overwrite the modem files in ATT ROMS if it is?
Any way to get the APN as an executble or zip? Just to make it easier than a mistype?
I am not a dev, and not a noob, but can be absolutely completely daft at times! I use my phone, and its not a disposable toy, but can have some toy nature to it. This might be a good place to exchange information, since we probably are gonne be a small group.
The note 3 is a great piece of hardware but it was a nightmare for devs I hope they backtrack on that with this one. Not getting my hopes up though.
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The note 3 is a great piece of hardware but it was a nightmare for devs I hope they backtrack on that with this one. Not getting my hopes up though.
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Probably...Maybe...Absolutely and most Definitely LOCKED.
powdered_donuts said:
The note 3 is a great piece of hardware but it was a nightmare for devs I hope they backtrack on that with this one. Not getting my hopes up though.
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Of course it will be locked down!!! Us consumers never really OWN our phone that WE purchase!!! So tired of AT&T and others. I sure hope Geohot can bring us some towelroot
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Of course it will be locked down!!! Us consumers never really OWN our phone that WE purchase!!! So tired of AT&T and others. I sure hope Geohot can bring us some towelroot
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Root took a long time for the note 3 but in the end the real fight was and still is the bootloaders. No custom kernels means even with root all you get is basically a bunch of differently themed semi customized stock Roms to play with
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Root took a long time for the note 3 but in the end the real fight was and still is the bootloaders. No custom kernels means even with root all you get is basically a bunch of differently themed semi customized stock Roms to play with
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That's right. I gave up my AT&T note 3 for T-Mobile S5 just for the unlocked bootloader. Although I really would like to see the bootloader unlocked, I can kinda live without unlocked bootloader if I have at least root. I will no longer buy a phone if I can't at least get root. I always wait until root has been achieved before making any purchase. Gotta love HTC for not locking down, but I just don't like their phones that much.
99.999% sure the ATT version will have a locked bootloader. This means it will always be a cat and mouse game with root.
My advice is to wait and not pre-order anything yet. Let the dust settle and see which device will work for you and have root available.
1. You have to ask yourself how long do you normally keep phones? Can you afford to wait 6 months or more (or never if you accidentally take an update) for root on an ATT device you are going to have for 1-2 years?
2. The Tmobile version will most likely have an unlocked bootloader which means you never have to worry about root. It will also most likely work on ATT like the GS5 and the Note3 before it and it will have updates long after Tmobile and Samsung stop supporting it.
If you have Tmobile in your area and you want root it really is the best way to go and cheaper. Why not give them a try? The next best is a Tmobile device on ATT, and third, well.... forget about root.
I have the same very question.
Being on ATT, will the Note 4 be able to be Rooted, and even more important, allow Custom Recovery for ROM's ? If not, NO WAY I can get the Note 4. And Safestrap is not an option, that's a handicapped and gimped wannabe recovery.
Nice thing with HTC, they openly and officially allow their One M8 to have the bootloader unlocked directly through HTC's own website. I did just that with my ATT carrier One M8, and converted it to a GPE. Would like to see Samsung allow that too.
Without a doubt it will be locked.
Ikr! I had T-Mobile but we moved a few years back to an area where they don't have service really at all. I wish I could let them pay my termination fees and bring my four lines there I would save money too. Oh well..
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Ikr! I had T-Mobile but we moved a few years back to an area where they don't have service really at all. I wish I could let them pay my termination fees and bring my four lines there I would save money too. Oh well..
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Get the Tmobile device instead and use it on ATT. Don't be pulled in by the ATT Next hype\propaganda either. You still pay full price for the device. Why not get one that you actually own.
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Get the Tmobile device instead and use it on ATT. Don't be pulled in by the ATT Next hype\propaganda either. You still pay full price for the device. Why not get one that you actually own.
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Yeah I know I'm not falling for the next plan and all that crap not interested in adding more to my monthly bill. I thought about getting the T-Mobile version but I'm starting to just lean towards getting a nexus from google when the new one comes out. Hate to leave Samsung behind but I'm feeling like the time has come to move on
mircury said:
99.999% sure the ATT version will have a locked bootloader. This means it will always be a cat and mouse game with root.
My advice is to wait and not pre-order anything yet. Let the dust settle and see which device will work for you and have root available.
1. You have to ask yourself how long do you normally keep phones? Can you afford to wait 6 months or more (or never if you accidentally take an update) for root on an ATT device you are going to have for 1-2 years?
2. The Tmobile version will most likely have an unlocked bootloader which means you never have to worry about root. It will also most likely work on ATT like the GS5 and the Note3 before it and it will have updates long after Tmobile and Samsung stop supporting it.
If you have Tmobile in your area and you want root it really is the best way to go and cheaper. Why not give them a try? The next best is a Tmobile device on ATT, and third, well.... forget about root.
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Not a good idea. If you want the phone, go get it now. I remember very well that after someone root the HTC phone with s-off, they make it not rootable with it being s-off. It took many months and ransom money for hacker to find it get rid of the s-off.
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Not a good idea. If you want the phone, go get it now. I remember very well that after someone root the HTC phone with s-off, they make it not rootable with it being s-off. It took many months and ransom money for hacker to find it get rid of the s-off.
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Very, very bad advise. You are basically advising people to buy and hope that an exploit will be found, and it's a bad gamble at most. Have you gotten any recent Samsung phones? We aren't talking HTC here. Look at the Note 3, Galaxy S4 and S5 history. I'm not saying you shouldn't buy the phone. I'm saying you should not pre-order it or get it on day one. With the Tmobile note 3 it took a week and a half after release to confirm that it had an unlocked bootloader. At that point a custom recovery was ODIN flashable and root was forever available. It was even faster to confirm that the ATT version was locked down and as of today the bootloader has NEVER been cracked! No CM or AOSP! Only stock kernels are usable. The same with the ATT S5. The bootloader is still locked down. Root has been obtained through an exploit that has since been patched. So if you take an update you are screwed. A bootloader exploit for the latest samsung devices has not been found for the ATT S4, S5, and Note 3 for 1.5 years now.
I have a huge info thread over in the ATT Note 3 section if you want to read it.
My point is, wait for confirmation that a particular device is bootloader unlocked before you put down $750 on a device.
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Very, very bad advise. You are basically advising people to buy and hope, and it's a bad gamble at most. Have you gotten any recent Samsung phones? We aren't talking HTC here. Look at the Note 3, Galaxy S4 and S5 history. I'm not saying you shouldn't buy the phone. I'm saying you should not pre-order it or get it on day one. With the Tmobile note 3 it took a week and a half after release to confirm that it had an unlocked bootloader. At that point a custom recovery was ODIN flashable and root was forever available. It was even faster to confirm that the ATT version was locked down and as of today the bootloader has NEVER been cracked! No CM or AOSP! Only stock kernels are usable. The same with the ATT S5. The bootloader is still locked down. Root has been obtained through an exploit that has since been patched. So if you take an update you are screwed. A bootloader exploit for the latest samsung devices has not been found for the ATT S4, S5, and Note 3 for 1.5 years now.
I have a huge info thread over in the ATT Note 3 section if you want to read it.
My point is, wait for confirmation that a particular device is bootloader unlocked before you put down $750 on a device.
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better advice! But you can certainly blindly guarantee that at&t is locked down.
Am I wanting Root for wrong reasons?
I have been rooting and installing custom ROMS for a few years now. All Samsung phones.
I'm growing tired of custom ROMS. While some are very solid, I have not tried any at all that don't have one problem or another. So, I'm hoping I can be satisfied with just rooting and maybe even staying on TW. I'll be trying to analyze the features I'd lose from Nova if I stay on TW, vs the TW features of the Note 4 I'd lose by going to Nova.
But my main question is do I really NEED root? I'm thinking I want it in order to do true backups (with more concern about data than backing up apps). I am of the impression that data backups may not be possible w/o root. True? Or, depending on App? I know that TIBU seems to want root...I've never tried to use TIBU w/o root.
Also, I use other apps that seem to work better with root, ie. Lightflow, TIBU, Tasker (a must), ES File Explorer, Gravity Box, Notification Shortcuts, Utter, Widget Locker, and others I suppose.
Seems to me I NEED root. Am I misinformed?
Maybe the T-Mobile version of the Note 4 is what I should look for.
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Also, I use other apps that seem to work better with root, ie. Lightflow, TIBU, Tasker (a must), ES File Explorer, Gravity Box, Notification Shortcuts, Utter, Widget Locker, and others I suppose.
Maybe the T-Mobile version of the Note 4 is what I should look for.
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Don't forget adaway, my number 1 use for root, and ya you should be looking at the tmo note. That's coming from someone who did it on the 3rd gen note.
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..., and ya you should be looking at the tmo note. That's coming from someone who did it on the 3rd gen note.
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I'll probably look into that. I typically take advantage of subsidy, but may be worth going with TMO. If the Note 4 had 4GB mem, that would make it easier to make the extra spend. I was hoping for a phone that I may be happy with for longer than 2 years. (Of course the root issue may be the driving factor for purchasing the TMO version, irrespective of other considerations).
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I have been rooting and installing custom ROMS for a few years now. All Samsung phones.
I'm growing tired of custom ROMS. While some are very solid, I have not tried any at all that don't have one problem or another. So, I'm hoping I can be satisfied with just rooting and maybe even staying on TW. I'll be trying to analyze the features I'd lose from Nova if I stay on TW, vs the TW features of the Note 4 I'd lose by going to Nova.
But my main question is do I really NEED root? I'm thinking I want it in order to do true backups (with more concern about data than backing up apps). I am of the impression that data backups may not be possible w/o root. True? Or, depending on App? I know that TIBU seems to want root...I've never tried to use TIBU w/o root.
Also, I use other apps that seem to work better with root, ie. Lightflow, TIBU, Tasker (a must), ES File Explorer, Gravity Box, Notification Shortcuts, Utter, Widget Locker, and others I suppose.
Seems to me I NEED root. Am I misinformed?
Maybe the T-Mobile version of the Note 4 is what I should look for.
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Totally agree with you on all points. Except not sure we "have to root". The Note 4 will be able to handle all "Bloatware" and still fly. Koush's Helium does a good job backing up apps/data. No Nandroid, but if you are not rooting and running the risk of soft bricking and needing to restore a Nandroid, they won't be needed. The cloud for Google will always be there to restore those accounts. The rest you can backup to your sdcard and pc. Not sure I need theming like Xposed offers. As, I am liking the stock look of the S5 which I am running on my S4.
That all being said I would probably get a TMO one on ATT if LTE runs fine and root/flash roms since it is in the blood at this point--
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..Koush's Helium does a good job backing up apps/data...
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Glad you posted this. I had not heard of Helium. I'll have to check it out.
One thing I like to be able to do is backup and restore just data. I'll have to see if that can be done. It's interesting that it doesn't require root, when everything else does.
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Just went to Play Store, and leaves me a bit confuse. The instructions are a bit confusing, as 1a says "Root user? You're done", then goes on to say to install on the PC, which implies to me if non-rooted, you must do backups to PC.
I'll go and read the Wiki.
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A few things that are discouraging, from the WIKI, re: Helium:
If you're using a non-root device, you MUST connect to a PC via the USB port of your device to enable ADB backup permissions.
In problematic applications, ALL Google Apps are listed
...you are using a non-root device, you need to enable Helium at every reboot of the device. This is a PITA
You made a backup to a removable SD card. Again, not advisable as mounting then re-mounting a physical card between devices is problematic for backups. Use PC Download, a cloud destination or device-to-device sync.
Those are just the issues I'm not sure I'd want to mess with. So, hoping to ultimately achieve ROOT.
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Glad you posted this. I had not heard of Helium. I'll have to check it out.
One thing I like to be able to do is backup and restore just data. I'll have to see if that can be done. It's interesting that it doesn't require root, when everything else does.
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Just went to Play Store, and leaves me a bit confuse. The instructions are a bit confusing, as 1a says "Root user? You're done", then goes on to say to install on the PC, which implies to me if non-rooted, you must do backups to PC.
I'll go and read the Wiki.
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A few things that are discouraging, from the WIKI, re: Helium:
If you're using a non-root device, you MUST connect to a PC via the USB port of your device to enable ADB backup permissions.
In problematic applications, ALL Google Apps are listed
...you are using a non-root device, you need to enable Helium at every reboot of the device. This is a PITA
You made a backup to a removable SD card. Again, not advisable as mounting then re-mounting a physical card between devices is problematic for backups. Use PC Download, a cloud destination or device-to-device sync.
Those are just the issues I'm not sure I'd want to mess with. So, hoping to ultimately achieve ROOT.
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You can try MyBackUp Pro from Play Store--Have used it for years. Assuming it updates for Note 4--sure it will. You can email them--
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I found the Odin files at SamMobile, so that's a comfort. Shouldn't be any problem going back to ANIE but it might make more sense to just hold off until ANK2 gets integrated in some roms...or Lollipop release... that said, I'd still like to know if the ANIE CF-Auto-Root will work on ANK2 firmware, or if it's specific to the firmware listed, and if there will be an issues or lag as others have reported, or if that is a phone issue unrelated to root.
So I rarely post, but a couple of days ago I shattered my Note 2 digitizer. Long story short, it was cheaper (sort of) to swap from the old $80/mo plan to a $60/mo plan with easy pay for the Note 4. My situation is this: I've almost never gotten a phone when it first comes out. So I have a few questions I didn't see answers to.
1) CF Auto Root...Chainfire lists it as supporting ANIE firmware, but not the current update...ANK2? Does it work? Are there still issues?
2) Somewhat related to question 1, but the development seems stagnant for the Sprint Note 4 just 2 months after it says the phone was released. Is it because people are staying on the Note 3? Perhaps it just hasn't picked up yet? I have 14 days to return the phone, so I'd like to go where the action is while I still can.
3) I've been seeing people mention a lot of problems after rooting their Note...lag and such. Is it something I'd be better off waiting to do? It was never an issue with the Note 2...any insight as to how exactly installing busy box even could cause these issues?
4) Rooting trips KNOX. Knox is a physical (not purely software) indicator of tampering, I've seen? Does this matter? Does it void Sprint's TEP, etc.? I don't anticipate needing it, but nobody that loses or damages their phone typically does. Is there presently a way to ODIN back to stock, is there a yellow triangle hanging over my head constantly, etc. if I were to only root the stock ROM and not install a custom one? I realize a flash back to stock will not reset a physical trip of KNOX.
Thanks for taking the time to read through and lend a hand - as I said, I rarely post and try to find this stuff for myself. But it's been a bit much to track down and some of the questions don't lend to specific enough search terms.
Root os compatible with nk2 twrp too even the current custom roms are compatible
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Root os compatible with nk2 twrp too even the current custom roms are compatible
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Appreciated! What do you mean the current custom roms are supported, though? If they're based on ANIE, when I flash them wouldn't it overwrite NK2? I'm talking software not baseband/modem.
Thanks again!
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1)CF Autoroot works on the new build
2) A lot of devs from the Note 3 didnt feel it was worth the upgrade, but there are several talented devs on here..
3) Only lag had to do with xpose and it's a easy fix
4) Ive tripped Knox and had no issues what so ever with getting a repair or replacement from Sprint
jauger said:
1)CF Autoroot works on the new build
2) A lot of devs from the Note 3 didnt feel it was worth the upgrade, but there are several talented devs on here..
3) Only lag had to do with xpose and it's a easy fix
4) Ive tripped Knox and had no issues what so ever with getting a repair or replacement from Sprint
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Lag due to xpose...so I need to install the Xposed framework? I was hoping to simply root and leave everything else stock, if possible. Or you mean the custom roms using Xposed framework had to make a fix for it?
Thank you! Very much appreciate the response!
Update: Got it rooted, installed Wanam Xposed, enabled the Secure Storage bypass thingy for S Health and Private mode, as well as disabling ro.securestorage in build.prop. Success I hope. Thanks again for the push in the right direction guys!
Hey all, does anyone have a link to a guide to root the Canadian Note 7 (SM-N930W8) - Snapdragon model.
The device should have a unlocked bootloader. Any help appreciated. Thank you
Anton2007 said:
Hey all, does anyone have a link to a guide to root the Canadian Note 7 (SM-N930W8) - Snapdragon model.
The device should have a unlocked bootloader. Any help appreciated. Thank you
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The first units out up here have a locked bootloader. I would imagine the replacements do too. There was an engineering firmware from Sprint that you could flash to get root, but I'm not sure what happens after you're on it.. i.e. I don't think you can get off of it (at least easily), no recovery, no custom ROMs, etc..
There are a number of users who returned their W8 Note7 and bought a F or FD model, as the Exynos variant has an unlocked bootloader, recovery, root, etc..
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The first units out up here have a locked bootloader. I would imagine the replacements do too. There was an engineering firmware from Sprint that you could flash to get root, but I'm not sure what happens after you're on it.. i.e. I don't think you can get off of it (at least easily), no recovery, no custom ROMs, etc..
There are a number of users who returned their W8 Note7 and bought a F or FD model, as the Exynos variant has an unlocked bootloader, recovery, root, etc..
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I thought Canadian units always had an unlocked bootloader? In development options I see OEM Unlock.
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I thought Canadian units always had an unlocked bootloader? In development options I see OEM Unlock.
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I wish. I also have a W8 Note7. So far I've decided to keep it, although it hasn't been exchanged yet (registered, but coral blue and waiting forever). I may sell it and get a F or FD variant once known good ones are easily available.. or may get something else.. who knows..
For reference, see THIS post for the steps about the engineering bootloader/firmware. Feel free to read through that thread, but from everything I've read the bootloader is truly locked on our devices.
Oh, OEM unlock is a feature added in lollipop. As far as I know it's a standard feature and doesn't reflect the actual ability to unlock the bootloader. Disabling it can remove the FRP lock though.. Yes, I do know you need to use that when flashing ROMs, I had a HTC 10, S7 Edge (W8 Exynos model), and many other Androids before, and I rooted every single one of them. This is the first device I haven't, which is why I'm on the fence..
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I wish. I also have a W8 Note7. So far I've decided to keep it, although it hasn't been exchanged yet (registered, but coral blue and waiting forever). I may sell it and get a F or FD variant once known good ones are easily available.. or may get something else.. who knows..
For reference, see THIS post for the steps about the engineering bootloader/firmware. Feel free to read through that thread, but from everything I've read the bootloader is truly locked on our devices.
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Ah, that sucks. I've never had a rooting any other devices, my old Note 5 had root. Weird...
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Ah, that sucks. I've never had a rooting any other devices, my old Note 5 had root. Weird...
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Yeah, I hear ya. It's a first for Sammy in Canada, at least with a W8 variant..
Anton2007 said:
Hey all, does anyone have a link to a guide to root the Canadian Note 7 (SM-N930W8) - Snapdragon model.
The device should have a unlocked bootloader. Any help appreciated. Thank you
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Unlocked bootloader? Dude....where have you been lol?
Ditch the snapdragon and go exynos as mentioned....only way to go with a note 7 if you want the usual root, twrp like the note 5.
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Unlocked bootloader? Dude....where have you been lol?
Ditch the snapdragon and go exynos as mentioned....only way to go with a note 7 if you want the usual root, twrp like the note 5.
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Guess I've just assumed it was unlocked. Honestly this phone has been a pain in the ass since I got it, was hoping to fix some things up with root and don't really want to go through the hassle of getting an Exynos version. Where would I grab one from anyway?
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Guess I've just assumed it was unlocked. Honestly this phone has been a pain in the ass since I got it, was hoping to fix some things up with root and don't really want to go through the hassle of getting an Exynos version. Where would I grab one from anyway?
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Lots of guys got them via ebay, a few of us got them local at a store here in toronto.
Amazon would also be an option
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Lots of guys got them via ebay, a few of us got them local at a store here in toronto.
Amazon would also be an option
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That's not a bad idea. Do you think Bell will refund my replacement Note 7? Also, what store in Toronto, I'm fairly close to there
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That's not a bad idea. Do you think Bell will refund my replacement Note 7? Also, what store in Toronto, I'm fairly close to there
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Can't say about bell....
The store is swiftronics.
I would hold off on buying though until battery gate blows over...they dont have any new stock yet anyway. We are all waiting on them to replace our FD units with updated versions.
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Just use the Spring Userdebug root and you will be good to go. Instructions are pretty basic. I have the N930W8 as well. The advantage is that you dont void your warranty or trip knox, but then you are stuck on an unchangablr kernel and cannot flash roms/kernels until someone decides to include the system.img and old kernel in their roms, which would be a lost cause, since maybe 3 people have rooted their canadian note 7's xD
BTW, can anyone help me out with systemui? I flashed the modded systemui that includes rom control, and can no longer use samsungs interaction control, which I absolutely need. Please help me out with possibly a zip I can flash that resets systemui to stock?
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Just use the Spring Userdebug root and you will be good to go. Instructions are pretty basic. I have the N930W8 as well. The advantage is that you dont void your warranty or trip knox, but then you are stuck on an unchangablr kernel and cannot flash roms/kernels until someone decides to include the system.img and old kernel in their roms, which would be a lost cause, since maybe 3 people have rooted their canadian note 7's xD
BTW, can anyone help me out with systemui? I flashed the modded systemui that includes rom control, and can no longer use samsungs interaction control, which I absolutely need. Please help me out with possibly a zip I can flash that resets systemui to stock?
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You cannot use that on the new firmware for anyone who got the update.
The OP is on a replacement device so he def cannot use it.
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force70 said:
You cannot use that on the new firmware for anyone who got the update.
The OP is on a replacement device so he def cannot use it.
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I used this on my original Note 7 as well as the replacement.
I got my replacement last friday, the phone was said to be manufactured Sep 6th, but I was definitely able to flash sprints userdebug on my new replacement..
I'm running it now, and its actually doing much better than the older device. Much much snappier and longer lasting.
Then again, you mentioned an update, and I usually avoid such things so I hadnt noticed any update. Could you ellaborate on that please? With some links if you can? ^.^
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I used this on my original Note 7 as well as the replacement.
I got my replacement last friday, the phone was said to be manufactured Sep 6th, but I was definitely able to flash sprints userdebug on my new replacement..
I'm running it now, and its actually doing much better than the older device. Much much snappier and longer lasting.
Then again, you mentioned an update, and I usually avoid such things so I hadnt noticed any update. Could you ellaborate on that please? With some links if you can? ^.^
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You must have got the device rooted before it updated....nice one!
The new firmware which gives the fixed devices the green battery icon and bad ones a big fat warning to turn the device in. And in some cases limits the charging to 60% tops.
I have all my update crap turned off so avoided it and some like you got lucky..others the damn phone updated immediately and others it came with the firmware.
You cannot odin the previous firmware either..its blocked. And there is no root for it even on unlocked bootloader devices like my dual sim exynos
Its all over the forums bro, easy to find more info but thats the overview of it.
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force70 said:
You must have got the device rooted before it updated....nice one!
The new firmware which gives the fixed devices the green battery icon and bad ones a big fat warning to turn the device in. And in some cases limits the charging to 60% tops.
I have all my update crap turned off so avoided it and some like you got lucky..others the damn phone updated immediately and others it came with the firmware.
You cannot odin the previous firmware either..its blocked. And there is no root for it even on unlocked bootloader devices like my dual sim exynos
Its all over the forums bro, easy to find more info but thats the overview of it.
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Whaat thats absolute bull that Samsung would do this.
I'm super thankful I blocked the update services with Package Disabler right away then.. I didnt even intend to do it, but I figured I would just in case. I have to reflash the userdebug again though, theres no way it would auto update right?
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Whaat thats absolute bull that Samsung would do this.
I'm super thankful I blocked the update services with Package Disabler right away then.. I didnt even intend to do it, but I figured I would just in case. I have to reflash the userdebug again though, theres no way it would auto update right?
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It shouldn't especially now that your rooted, im not even rooted but have auto update off and also used package disabler and havent had a hint of an OTA thank god.
I dont like It either but under the circumstances i do understand why they would force an OTA like this.
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It shouldn't especially now that your rooted, im not even rooted but have auto update off and also used package disabler and havent had a hint of an OTA thank god.
I dont like It either but under the circumstances i do understand why they would force an OTA like this.
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How come unlocked bootloaders are not rootable?. . There is a dr ketan rom based on safe battery issue
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It shouldn't especially now that your rooted, im not even rooted but have auto update off and also used package disabler and havent had a hint of an OTA thank god.
I dont like It either but under the circumstances i do understand why they would force an OTA like this.
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Just managed to reflash sprint userdebug and root again (on the replacement). I was sketching out hard during the setup, saying to myself over and over "oh my god please dont auto update".
Thanks for all your help! Sucks that the Note 7 is essentially dead now, considering only very little people will have a rooted note 7.
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How come unlocked bootloaders are not rootable?. . There is a dr ketan rom based on safe battery issue
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Lol.....just now there is....there was not up until when i went to bed last night. Looks like Dr Ketan found a way around it by not having to flash the new bootloader.
This is what our talented developers do...find ways sround samsung screwing us....god bless them :thumbup:
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