I was using a colleagues unbranded wireless QI charging pad to give my 360 a little boost during the day and noticed it only charged up to 75% and the watch got a lot warmer than it normally gets when I use the actual dock. Is there anything specific I need to be concerned about with which wireless pads I use for it? E.g. certain Amp amount etc?
Me too, I was using a Samsung changing pad, my 360 gets warm and stuck in around 75%, with moto's charging dock there's no issue, all connected with same wall charger.
I have a Panasonic, an LG, and a cheap Kogan Qi charger and all three stop charging at around 85% and the watch gets hot. The moto one is fine.
Sounds like Motorola wants to be like Apple and want u to use their stuff only
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Been thinking of getting a Wireless Charger for my N5 but I have a very important question. Will they work through a case? I use a case on my phone and there is absolutely no value to a wireless charger if I am going to have to remove my case to use it. So I am wondering if you can place it atop the charge station while in a TPU or plastic case and still get a charge? I would also like to know how much slower Wireless Charging is than regular AC charging? Thank you.
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Been thinking of getting a Wireless Charger for my N5 but I have a very important question. Will they work through a case? I use a case on my phone and there is absolutely no value to a wireless charger if I am going to have to remove my case to use it. So I am wondering if you can place it atop the charge station while in a TPU or plastic case and still get a charge? I would also like to know how much slower Wireless Charging is than regular AC charging? Thank you.
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Yes, wireless chargers work with a case. I've used the LG WCP-700 wireless charger with my Nexus 4 flawlessly with countless cases on the Nexus 4. I fully expect the results to be the same with the Nexus 5. Wireless chargers are very convenient and work great. Just make sure to get a reputable one and don't cheap out on a $20 eBay one.
i also heard that once ur phone is fully charged..the wireless charger will stop charging
I know the LG one stops charging when full. It also trickle charges so if your phone or tablet falls below a 95% charge it starts charging it again till full, then stops again.
All "Qi" standard chargers will work with the N5 with varying degrees of success. They all will generally charge up to a distance of ~3-4mm from coil to coil so they will usually charge thru cases with no problem although there may be a slight degradation in charge rate. I have used several different Qi chargers - the Google Orb, the Owlpad car charger, the LG WCP 300 and the Metrans MWT03. They all charged my N4 'case on' with no trouble although the N4 did seem to charge slightly quicker without the case on. I even mounted the Metrans inside of my desk just under the laminate surface and it charged the N4 fine thru the laminate and TPU case. The Orb was easily the best of lot and charged the fastest, the Owlpad was probably the worst but it was used while driving with the phone generally being used for GPS, music streaming etc and under those conditions, it barely could maintain charge with screen on. With the phone off, it charged fine.
I just got my N5 today and tried it with all of my chargers and they all worked fine, if anything the N5 is less picky than the N4 about placement.
Landara said:
Been thinking of getting a Wireless Charger for my N5 but I have a very important question. Will they work through a case? I use a case on my phone and there is absolutely no value to a wireless charger if I am going to have to remove my case to use it. So I am wondering if you can place it atop the charge station while in a TPU or plastic case and still get a charge? I would also like to know how much slower Wireless Charging is than regular AC charging? Thank you.
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Shouldn't have problems charging through a case
dwaltuberalles said:
All "Qi" standard chargers will work with the N5 with varying degrees of success. They all will generally charge up to a distance of ~3-4mm from coil to coil so they will usually charge thru cases with no problem although there may be a slight degradation in charge rate. I have used several different Qi chargers - the Google Orb, the Owlpad car charger, the LG WCP 300 and the Metrans MWT03. They all charged my N4 'case on' with no trouble although the N4 did seem to charge slightly quicker without the case on. I even mounted the Metrans inside of my desk just under the laminate surface and it charged the N4 fine thru the laminate and TPU case. The Orb was easily the best of lot and charged the fastest, the Owlpad was probably the worst but it was used while driving with the phone generally being used for GPS, music streaming etc and under those conditions, it barely could maintain charge with screen on. With the phone off, it charged fine.
I just got my N5 today and tried it with all of my chargers and they all worked fine, if anything the N5 is less picky than the N4 about placement.
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Dit you try the N5 in the Owl Carpad? did it work or did you neet to do some mods?
I'm also looking at this charger
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Dit you try the N5 in the Owl Carpad? did it work or did you neet to do some mods?
I'm also looking at this charger
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I bought the owlpad for my N4 and the N5 doesn't play well with my N4 Owlpad. The coils are not aligned and there is little wiggle room in the phone holder. Owlpad does make a N5 version (or a $29 conversion kit to make the N4 Owlpad into a N5 charger). Overall, I wouldn't recommend wireless charging for a car dock. Wireless chargers can't charge at the same rate as a cable and if you, like me, put heavy use on your phone while driving (GPS, bluetooth, music streaming, etc), the charger at best will barely maintain charge and often will lose charge. The beauty of wireless charging is being able to drop your phone at home or office and have it always 'topping off' without bothering to hook up a cable. If you put heavy use on your phone in the car, I recommend direct cable. For the home or office, I definitely recommend wireless. Since going wireless with my N4, my phone seems always fully charged when I leave home or work.
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I know the LG one stops charging when full. It also trickle charges so if your phone or tablet falls below a 95% charge it starts charging it again till full, then stops again.
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which charger is that?
Landara said:
Been thinking of getting a Wireless Charger for my N5 but I have a very important question. Will they work through a case? I use a case on my phone and there is absolutely no value to a wireless charger if I am going to have to remove my case to use it. So I am wondering if you can place it atop the charge station while in a TPU or plastic case and still get a charge? I would also like to know how much slower Wireless Charging is than regular AC charging? Thank you.
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Yes, they will work though cases. I had a Diztronic on my N4 and it worked great. The charging is a bit slower but rapid charging isn't the point of the wireless chargers.
Has anyone tried the N5 on the WCP400 (the google Orb) yet? I will tonight but am curious (and impatient) while I'm here at work.
EDIT: someone has; here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2513200
Charging rates: with/without a case, wireless vs. wall ?
Landara said:
Been thinking of getting a Wireless Charger for my N5 but I have a very important question. Will they work through a case? I use a case on my phone and there is absolutely no value to a wireless charger if I am going to have to remove my case to use it. So I am wondering if you can place it atop the charge station while in a TPU or plastic case and still get a charge? I would also like to know how much slower Wireless Charging is than regular AC charging? Thank you.
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So we have the easy answer here ("yes wireless charging works with a case") but no careful studies on charge rates.
The OP also asked how wireless charging rates compare to wired charging.
I would also like to know if and how much using a case for wireless charging affects the charge rate? I use the Google charger (I would post a working link but the XDA site is being *****y about my lack of participation) ( .. play.google.com/store/devices/details/Nexus_Wireless_Charger?id=nexus_wireless_charger ) which also includes a permanent magnet to help align the Nexus 5 to the charger. This is important because if the charging coils are not well aligned charging doesn't work at all and there is much less than a centimeter of margin. Using a case definitely weakens the alignment field because without a case the phone "snaps" to the correct position, whereas with a case you have to feel the alignment field and for the most part position the phone over the charger manually.
We know the distance between the phone and charger coils affects energy transfer (inverse square law for fields), but perhaps wireless chargers automatically adjust the strength of the charging field based on charging amperage or feedback from the phone to optimize charge rates? This would help mitigate the effect of a case but there would still be larger distances at which the field cannot optimally charge the phone. What are these distances, and do some chargers vary the charging field strength based on any kind of feedback?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=0S8-0088-00030
Is there likely to be any compatibility issue with my N 5? I'd like something like this to provide an additional output for my Moto 360 for charging and the price seems right. (On sale today, at lest for us in the US.) If it matters I wold be using it with a Qi wireless charger.
As an aside and I'm going to have to search... My N 5 doesn't always charge using a Qi charger. Does that depend on the output of the charger and will Qi chargers take advantage of the extra output? Do the need the extra output? I just put my N 5 on a Qi charger driven by the wall wort for my HP Touchpad (rated for 2.1A output.) The phone is at 95% and is not charging at all. The light on the Qi charger remains red instead of turning green. I'm wondering if that is because the high level of charge or is this one of the times it is not going to charge. :
Edit: Doh! It won't charge if the charging pad is upside down. While rebooting my phone I noticed that. With the phone off, it was drawing 760 mA form the charger (measured using one of those USB volt-amp meters.) After the phone booted up, it is back to not charging.
If it truly is a "smart" charger it should work. I haven't heard of that brand so I can't really vouch for it. Due to the design of the charger though keep in mind that it will cover both outlets on your wall. My favorite 4-port charger is the Anker model:
http://www.amazon.com/Anker-Quad-Po...SS4U/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1413293539&sr=8-2
Four ports but horizontal so it does not take up both outlets. I also know from experience that it works great with the Nexus 5, Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HDX, iPhone 4s... everything I've thrown at it. And it charges the Nexus 5 faster than on the stock charger.
I received my charger from Choetech yesterday and tested it with my moto 360 as well as a few of my other devices.
I figured that I should post my review (from amazon) up here due to the testing on the moto 360. I have bolded that parts people here will be interested in.
http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Char...r=1-1&keywords=choetech+fast+wireless+charger
First, this is an amazing charger. Choetech always makes good products.
I received this in 2 days and set about testing it.
I was going to make a video showing off this thing fast charging on a Samsung Galaxy Note 5 but I see that there are already 2 excellent videos up showing that. So instead I will show you the things they did not highlight as much.
OK, the quick charge 2.0 wall plug you can get with this is the best one I have ever tried. Just like the other Qualcomm certified chargers, you will get the self adjusting voltages (12v-9v-5v) to give you a super fast charge. The extra you get with this Choetech quick charge 2.0 adapter is the USB port on it is reversible! This is the first charger I have seen with this and I now think everything should have this.
Ok now to the real reason you are reading this. The charging puck itself is a nice clean looking puck.
It is defiantly thicker than the cheapo ones you get for a few dollars. It has some heft to it making it feel more premium.
It has rubber top and bottom to keep both the charger from slipping on your desk or the phone from slipping on top the charger.
It will most defiantly charge your Note 5 or other Samsung devices quickly.
It will also charge your older devices as well. I tested it on a few LG phones in addition to the Note 5.
I noticed no abnormal warmth from the charger or any of the phones I tested this with. This is a very welcome thing as most of my other qi chargers do have heat issues.
One final thing, I tested this charger on my moto 360 and it charged it flawlessly. Most qi chargers fail here and will overheat this watch, this one did not and it charged my moto 360 from 19% to full in about 35 minutes. that is about 15 minutes faster than the stock charger does.
I received this product in exchange for an honest review, this does not affect my opinion of this product.
The fast charging works for a Note 5 or S6 Edge+, right? As far as I know that's a requirement as the new charger operates at a higher voltage.
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The fast charging works for a Note 5 or S6 Edge+, right? As far as I know that's a requirement as the new charger operates at a higher voltage.
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It will fast charge at a higher voltage on a Note 5 or S6 Edge+, but will work at normal speeds on every other Qi enabled device, including our moto 360.
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I received my charger from Choetech yesterday and tested it with my moto 360 as well as a few of my other devices.
I figured that I should post my review (from amazon) up here due to the testing on the moto 360. I have bolded that parts people here will be interested in.
http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Char...r=1-1&keywords=choetech+fast+wireless+charger
First, this is an amazing charger. Choetech always makes good products.
I received this in 2 days and set about testing it.
I was going to make a video showing off this thing fast charging on a Samsung Galaxy Note 5 but I see that there are already 2 excellent videos up showing that. So instead I will show you the things they did not highlight as much.
OK, the quick charge 2.0 wall plug you can get with this is the best one I have ever tried. Just like the other Qualcomm certified chargers, you will get the self adjusting voltages (12v-9v-5v) to give you a super fast charge. The extra you get with this Choetech quick charge 2.0 adapter is the USB port on it is reversible! This is the first charger I have seen with this and I now think everything should have this.
Ok now to the real reason you are reading this. The charging puck itself is a nice clean looking puck.
It is defiantly thicker than the cheapo ones you get for a few dollars. It has some heft to it making it feel more premium.
It has rubber top and bottom to keep both the charger from slipping on your desk or the phone from slipping on top the charger.
It will most defiantly charge your Note 5 or other Samsung devices quickly.
It will also charge your older devices as well. I tested it on a few LG phones in addition to the Note 5.
I noticed no abnormal warmth from the charger or any of the phones I tested this with. This is a very welcome thing as most of my other qi chargers do have heat issues.
One final thing, I tested this charger on my moto 360 and it charged it flawlessly. Most qi chargers fail here and will overheat this watch, this one did not and it charged my moto 360 from 19% to full in about 35 minutes. that is about 15 minutes faster than the stock charger does.
I received this product in exchange for an honest review, this does not affect my opinion of this product.
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Seems they have a cheaper standard wireless charger for other Qi enabled device. Same design but cheaper at 20 bucks.
Link: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B013AB620C
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Seems they have a cheaper standard wireless charger for other Qi enabled device. Same design but cheaper at 20 bucks.
Link: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B013AB620C
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I have not tried it but I would assume with how well the fast charge one works, the cheaper one should also work to charge out watches without overheating them.
Interesting charger! Are wireless chargers efficient and as quick as cabled chargers? How long does it complete 100% charging your phone?
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Interesting charger! Are wireless chargers efficient and as quick as cabled chargers? How long does it complete 100% charging your phone?
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Just from experience, no science here.
A normal Qi charger will take about 2 times as long to charge your phone as a standard 2a charger.
This fast Qi charger is about the same speed on a compatible phone as a normal cable charger.
The fastest way to charge is with a qualcom certified quick charger and phone, that is significantly faster than a standard charger.
Think I'll pick one up,no overheating,that's worth it alone.
Hi all, I'm considering getting this device, but want to have wireless charging.
has anyone purchased a 3rd party wireless charging receiver, and if so, what has been your experience? are you using a case?
thanks!
The Pixels do not natively support wireless charging. You will have to wait for a company to make a wireless charging case that adds this functionality.
For example, on the Pixel 1:
http://www.mophie.com/shop/juice-pack-pixel-xl
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Type-C-W...5277&wl11=online&wl12=329382371&wl13=&veh=sem
He is talking about something like this and was wondering what people's experience was using them
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https://www.walmart.com/ip/Type-C-W...5277&wl11=online&wl12=329382371&wl13=&veh=sem
He is talking about something like this and was wondering what people's experience was using them
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correct.
looking at the reviews on Amazon, many users are claiming that it works fine with the pixel 2.
I haven't used them, my only concern is how easy it would be to unplug the wireless charger in the even I need to access it either to charge or connect it to something like computer or God forbid headphones
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I haven't used them, my only concern is how easy it would be to unplug the wireless charger in the even I need to access it either to charge or connect it to something like computer or God forbid headphones
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100% agreed.
that's why I enjoy my droid turbo (built in wireless charging).
however, i MAY be fine with accepting this so long as the battery life is great as it has been claimed (able to go a full day in between charges), and I may ask for a pair of them google pixel ear buds for my birthday.
so the solution would be to get an extra wireless charging pad (less than $10) and get a pair of wireless earbuds.
but if the deal breaker for me would be the battery life. my current device as a 3900mAh battery and can go all day and then some. but, it is 2+ years old, and the battery is deteriorating, so it's not lasting as long. but if the Pixel 2 can deliver, then I may be fine with that.
Honestly battery life has been really good for me. I get 4+ hours of SoT which includes playing games and watching videos.
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https://www.walmart.com/ip/Type-C-W...5277&wl11=online&wl12=329382371&wl13=&veh=sem
He is talking about something like this and was wondering what people's experience was using them
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Oh, very cool, actually! I would also be worried about continuous unplug/replug for anyone using wired headphones or wanting to plug in for faster recharge. Let us know if you try it!
Lost wireless charging when I got the Nexux 5x. Never really missed it much. While somewhat convenient, it was slow to charge and many times when I needed a fast charge I just plugged in anyway.
So, Nexus 5X -> Pixel -> Pixel 2, same thing, I have chargers where I need them and charging is pretty quick. So, at the office, in my truck, by the recliner and in my home office I have fast chargers. I am covered. I also have a fast chargers in my backpack when I out an about.
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Lost wireless charging when I got the Nexux 5x. Never really missed it much. While somewhat convenient, it was slow to charge and many times when I needed a fast charge I just plugged in anyway.
So, Nexus 5X -> Pixel -> Pixel 2, same thing, I have chargers where I need them and charging is pretty quick. So, at the office, in my truck, by the recliner and in my home office I have fast chargers. I am covered. I also have a fast chargers in my backpack when I out an about.
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understood that wireless charging is a preference and not a necessity.
as for me, it's more of a convenience factor as well as less wear/tear on the port (and battery life from my understanding). to have the ability to pick it up and go rather than pulling on a cord is a great help.
i did this with my wife's iPhone 7. and she really enjoys it (and it's difficult to get her to adopt to new technologies - hence why she has an iPhone).
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Hi all, I'm considering getting this device, but want to have wireless charging.
has anyone purchased a 3rd party wireless charging receiver, and if so, what has been your experience? are you using a case?
thanks!
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I purchased the Spigen thin fit case and a Nillkin usb-c qi tag (short version). Have been using it for a few weeks and works with all my old Qi chargers used on my Nexus 6.
The case has a recessed area where the tag can sit without producing a bulge.
reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/7an3sm/pixel_2_wireless_charging_solution_nillkin_qi_tag/
To throw my 2 cents in. Used a USB Type-C wireless receiver with my OG Pixel XL and it worked fine, as soon as received my PXL2 I connected the adapter but it was unfortunately insufficient to provide a decent charge, even over night, many times having the same or less battery percentage left than before laying it on the Qi charger. I have since tried 2 different wireless receivers with the same result. I've gotta believe they can manufacturer one that will out put enough juice to power and charge the battery. If anyone comes across one, please let the community know. TIA.
I've purchased the Nillkin short receiver and it does not work.
I charged it overnight in a thin Spigen case and it discharged 5% overnight.
I tried charging using the receiver outside of the case and at best pulled 0.31A on a 1.5A rated qi base.
What about one of the "Magsafe" type USB C cables (https://www.amazon.co.uk/COCHING-Magnetic-Charging-Lightning-Adapters/dp/B073HC1DJB/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1522506792&sr=8-3&keywords=usb+c+magnetic) if you're looking to reduce wear and tear? I assume you still get quick charge.
Looking at Nillkin's website, the tech specs on the USB-C "magic tag" give it a max output of 5V/1A. As we all know, Volts x Amps = charginess (or "Watts," for the electrical engineers). The power supply that comes with the Pixel 2 has an output of 5V/3A or 9V/2A.
So the phone's stock power supply charges at 15w or 18w. The Nillkin magic tag only feeds it 5w. At best, that's going to be a SLOOOOOOOOOW charge. The type 3 "fast charge edition" charger says it outputs more (10w). So the fast charger will send 10w to the magic tag, which will then feed 5w to your phone's battery.
Too bad. Seems like this could be a viable solution if there's a receiver that will output 10w. I mean, that still wouldn't charge as fast as the stock, wired power supply but at least it would probably charge. I'd love to have wireless charging with my new Pixel 2 but if the best it can do is 5 Watts, I'll live with the minor inconvenience of having to plug it in.
I thought wireless require all glass body which would be a no for me
Hey all.
So recently i just purchased S20 with an exynos cpu (since thats the only option in my country). Since this device has a wireless support, i want to try the habit of wireless charging since its more convenient while using on a desk. But thing is, is it okay that everytime there is notification i pick up the phone and put it back again after i finished dealing with it?
Check out this article, it suggests lower Depth of Discharge is better for battery life (and not charging to 100%).
https://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
I stopped using wireless charging with my S3 & S4 because the 4 different wireless pads I bought would heat the batteris so much they would swell up and need replacement after about 3 months. Luckily with those old handsets I could easily replace the batteries.
I don't wirelessly charge my S20 for that reason, I use a 1A charger daily or a 2A charger if I'm a bit impatient. I rarely use the 25W charger, only for genuine emergency use.