Saw a lot of these threads on other phone forums and got curious.
**This is not a dev bashing, rom compairing, best rom thread!**
What rom you you use and why do you like it?
I am a flashing junky, and no... not the kind that wanders around parks in a trench coat.
I flash a rom, play with it, get bored , and flash another.
ATM im on PAC ROM and love it so far. The mix of the 3 roms combined is fun.
Just wondering what the G3 population thinks, so.. Let's hear it!
Zonerom ?it's fast, stable and battery is very good. Favorite rom so far. Been running it since it came out.
used to run zone rom when it first came out, but now that aosp roms are released, im flashing back and forth every few days.
Love how 480 dpi looks on this phone, and everything works at that dpi on these aosp roms.
... ok well almost everything, there are some features not worked out yet, but it is still good enough to be used as a daily.
Running CloudyFA's ROM. Still on a stock kick, especially with the Quick Circle case. Loving it.
Currently, bone stock. I rooted, then unrooted. For what I personally use it for, so far, stock suits me fine. We'll see what the future holds in development.
was Zone, Carbon now
Zone, based on stock 10m, is very stable and fast
Carbon, AOSP, is very stable too and lightning fast
aaanadie said:
was Zone, Carbon now
Zone, based on stock 10m, is very stable and fast
Carbon, AOSP, is very stable too and lightning fast
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How is battery life compared to stock?
Still_living714 said:
How is battery life compared to stock?
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I'm getting better battery life on every AOSP ROM I've used. My battery life on stock/stock ROMs wasn't bad either.
pside15 said:
I'm getting better battery life on every AOSP ROM I've used. My battery life on stock/stock ROMs wasn't bad either.
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Nice?what rom would you recommend?
Stock>Skydragon>Pac-rom.
So far so good. Battery on AOSP holds up well. The build is a little laggy, but, as expected, this early into it.
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Nice?what rom would you recommend?
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What is best for me may not be the same for your use. I'd just pick one and flash away. I'm using Validus at the moment but have also used PAC, Beanstalk, Liquid Smooth, and shortly, AICP. They've all been solid with no issues for me.
currently running stock rooted. liquid smooth would be my daily but I have had to many blue screens on it.
Carbon currently. Loved PAC, but would get lag during some games and stutters here and there (expected). Tried Validus but had issues with unlocking screen and texting. AOSP has much better battery life than stock in general, for me at least. Haven't found one issue with Carbon yet.
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Carbon currently. Loved PAC, but would get lag during some games and stutters here and there (expected). Tried Validus but had issues with unlocking screen and texting. AOSP has much better battery life than stock in general, for me at least. Haven't found one issue with Carbon yet.
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Does exposed work on carbon? G3 tweakbox?
CloudyG3 1.2. I've tried pretty much every one of the stock and non-stock custom ROMs and I keep coming back to this. It has stock functionality with AOSP speed and performance.
Before Cloudy was released, I would have bet my house that I would have ditched stock ROMs for good once they got the camera working. It's not that the stock build was bad, but between it being a little wobbly and me coming from a Nexus 5... Even SkyDragon, Zone and Lonely didn't get to where I really wanted.
Now I'm all in with 'stock' again.... Because of that ROM
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Does exposed work on carbon? G3 tweakbox?
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Xposed does work on AOSP ROMs but I don't think G3 tweaksbox will though. That's built to run on a LG based ROM. I personally think that most AOSP ROMs have enough built in options that xposed isn't necessarily needed. App Settings(per app DPI settings) was always the only module I ever really used on AOSP based ROMs.
Carbon - everything just works!
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Does exposed work on carbon? G3 tweakbox?
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I haven't tried Xposed on Carbon, there is enough options in settings that I don't find myself needing it. Although I would assume it would work. G3 Tweakbox, on the other hand, probably wouldn't. That's more focused on stock mods.
LeoRex said:
CloudyG3 1.2. I've tried pretty much every one of the stock and non-stock custom ROMs and I keep coming back to this. It has stock functionality with AOSP speed and performance.
Before Cloudy was released, I would have bet my house that I would have ditched stock ROMs for good once they got the camera working. It's not that the stock build was bad, but between it being a little wobbly and me coming from a Nexus 5... Even SkyDragon, Zone and Lonely didn't get to where I really wanted.
Now I'm all in with 'stock' again.... Because of that ROM
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I tried cloudy but got some random reboots. Maybe I should download again and see how it goes. I wanna try carbon but stock has been so good
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I tried cloudy but got some random reboots. Maybe I should download again and see how it goes. I wanna try carbon but stock has been so good
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Which version? I haven't had a single reboot in my d851 with either 1.1 or 1.2
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I need a Gingerbread/Sense ROM with and emphasis on stability. Close to stock would be best though it isn't paramount. I realize that ROMs are like beers, you get a different opinion on which is best depending on who you ask. The circumstances just don't allow me to try out a whole slew of ROMs.
A good friend's wife has an EVO 4G (I have a Sensation, G2x & HD2) and is having trouble with stability. I suggested we root it and slap a custom ROM on it. While they were over I rooted it and got everything ready to back up and slap a ROM on it. Problem is I am unsure as to what ROM to put on it. Yes, I could try out several ROMs to find one that works but this isn't going to go well at all. The reasons should be obvious for anyone who is married. This is magnified by the fact that I would only have access to the phone maybe once every other week. I need a silver bullet for this one.
Thank you for your time.
I've tried a ton of sense roms, MikG still wins for stability and everything working for me.
I'm currently running synergy w/o sense lockscreen. Loving it. I've had no problems with stability.
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Neitmrh15 said:
I've tried a ton of sense roms, MikG still wins for stability and everything working for me.
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This one I assume? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1038967
kingphreak13 said:
I'm currently running synergy w/o sense lockscreen. Loving it. I've had no problems with stability.
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RC2 from the below thread? Is there a problem with the lock screen or is that a personal preference?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1144447
Try EVO classic Rom. It's based off the latest stock Rom. It's fast and so far no trouble for me.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312414
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Thats the one. I used to use Synergy to but I found it to be a bit slower than MikG and Mik sees more updates.
If you go Synergy RLS1 is the newest version. RC2 is older and was an unofficial release I believe. I never had a problem with the lock screen on Synergy.
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This one I assume? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1038967
RC2 from the below thread? Is there a problem with the lock screen or is that a personal preference?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1144447
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I've found Mik Roms to be the most stable as well as be current with the latest updates. Myn's Roms are excellent as well.
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I need a Gingerbread/Sense ROM with and emphasis on stability. Close to stock would be best though it isn't paramount. I realize that ROMs are like beers, you get a different opinion on which is best depending on who you ask. The circumstances just don't allow me to try out a whole slew of ROMs.
A good friend's wife has an EVO 4G (I have a Sensation, G2x & HD2) and is having trouble with stability. I suggested we root it and slap a custom ROM on it. While they were over I rooted it and got everything ready to back up and slap a ROM on it. Problem is I am unsure as to what ROM to put on it. Yes, I could try out several ROMs to find one that works but this isn't going to go well at all. The reasons should be obvious for anyone who is married. This is magnified by the fact that I would only have access to the phone maybe once every other week. I need a silver bullet for this one.
Thank you for your time.
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click on the link in my sig to learn about aosp roms and kernels, it also has links to the roms and dl zips to the kernels. aosp may not be what you want but in reality you never know till you try ^_^
DECIM8 said:
I need a Gingerbread/Sense ROM with and emphasis on stability. Close to stock would be best though it isn't paramount. I realize that ROMs are like beers, you get a different opinion on which is best depending on who you ask. The circumstances just don't allow me to try out a whole slew of ROMs.
A good friend's wife has an EVO 4G (I have a Sensation, G2x & HD2) and is having trouble with stability. I suggested we root it and slap a custom ROM on it. While they were over I rooted it and got everything ready to back up and slap a ROM on it. Problem is I am unsure as to what ROM to put on it. Yes, I could try out several ROMs to find one that works but this isn't going to go well at all. The reasons should be obvious for anyone who is married. This is magnified by the fact that I would only have access to the phone maybe once every other week. I need a silver bullet for this one.
Thank you for your time.
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1. If she is having a problem with stability on a stock unrooted Evo then she needs to backup her information and just do a factory reset.
2. Trying out several ROMs is required because phones react to various ROMs differently. I can tell you that a certain ROM plays well with my phone but it may not play quite as well with yours. Then comes the issue of kernels. Kernels have a large impact on the phone's stability as well.
3. Tell your friend to do his own homework on how to get her phone up and running or have an affair with her so that you can see her more often and get more opportunities to test ROMs/kernels on her phone.
What version of Sense would you prefer?
Green_Arrow said:
click on the link in my sig to learn about aosp roms and kernels, it also has links to the roms and dl zips to the kernels. aosp may not be what you want but in reality you never know till you try ^_^
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I ran AOSP and CM ROMs on my G2X. Eaglesblood with Faux's kernel. CM and AOSP ROMs are actually my preference for Android in general. I am not a huge fan of Sense, it has some nice apps but its too confining. This isn't my phone though.
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What version of Sense would you prefer?
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The EVO 4G has 2.5 by default I believe. I run the leaked 3.5 on my Sensation and it has some improvements over 2.5 and a couple over 3.0. If there is a very stable and fully functional ROM with 3.x that would be better. Stability and functionality still trump everything else though.
They mentioned that Netflix has to work as they use it often. Skype working properly with video would be good as well.
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I ran AOSP and CM ROMs on my G2X. Eaglesblood with Faux's kernel. CM and AOSP ROMs are actually my preference for Android in general. I am not a huge fan of Sense, it has some nice apps but its too confining. This isn't my phone though.
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i agree AOSP Roms are a lot better, smoother, and allow for more customization, that's why the thread i made in my sig is only about them and not about sense based roms. plus whenever an ICS rom comes out it'll be AOSP
Which JB Rom would be the best for the Nitro? I'm on CM10 Stable right now and all seems good so far. When I had my GSIII CM10 was to buggy. Just wanted some opinions from you who have been using the Nitro for some time. Also which JB Roms work with LTE?
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Which JB Rom would be the best for the Nitro? I'm on CM10 Stable right now and all seems good so far. When I had my GSIII CM10 was to buggy. Just wanted some opinions from you who have been using the Nitro for some time. Also which JB Roms work with LTE?
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Asking questions like this, you miss out on all the fun. They are all more or less equally stable, equally battery draining, and most have functional LTE.
For my part, tried a couple and came back to normal CM10, im running the nightlies and not having any problems, added 4.2 camera, 42 kerboard and flashed Lighting Zap kernel gave me a little more performance and battery life.
Honestly, you should do the same, backup what you have now and try them, it's all about your personnal preference ...
Thanks for the input. When I had my SIII I got tired of flashing different ROMs all the time. I guess I'm just getting to the point where I just want something that works great. I see the ROM options for this device are limited compared to the other Android devices I've had.
I am going over to make my decision on what rom to flash for my device. looking into a good performance and battery life. I hear CM has it bad with battery usage, not sure if its true though.
I am also looking for roms that run on 4.4 Kit Kat to try out.
If not one of the roms in the poll, feel free to post another rom.
NeatROM seems cool as well
IMHO, i've flashed a bunch of custom ROMs
1: they all make and receive phone calls.
2: they all send and receive texts.
3: they wont pay my bills.
4: they wont wipe my *ss.
seriously; and seriously, for me they have to be tweaked for optimal battery life/performance.
best advice i have; try them all and see. they all have their own uniqueness developed by some very knowledgeable people.
good luck.
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I use SlimKat weekly, with QuantumKernel. Fast, good battery life, all I need
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I use SlimKat weekly, with QuantumKernel. Fast, good battery life, all I need
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Runs on Kit Kat, Good Battery Life and Fast is all I need as well Have you tried others and compared it?
And would you happen to know where I can find the rom for my specific model and carrier? (Specs in my sig)
I am using full stock KitKat and I can push 21 hours of bat with 6 hours of screen time.....IMO that's awesome for 2100mah
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Runs on Kit Kat, Good Battery Life and Fast is all I need as well Have you tried others and compared it?
And would you happen to know where I can find the rom for my specific model and carrier? (Specs in my sig)
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Ive installed quite a bit of rom's the two that stand out besides SlimKat would be Carbon and Mokee Both I used on my last phone (inspire 4g)
Carbon was nice, but kinda seemed slow for me. It would of been my first choice but I could not for the life of me find out what was causing it.
Mokee is also fast, they do have daily updates (Lets me know that someone is working on it) it's open source, but the only thing that killed it for me was the Chinese apps that was built in the rom.
Im not sure about the model of your phone if it's D2lte or Jflte here are download links for both.
http://www.slimroms.net/index.php/news/450-important-notice-for-d2lte-and-jflte-users
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Ive installed quite a bit of rom's the two that stand out besides SlimKat would be Carbon and Mokee Both I used on my last phone (inspire 4g)
Carbon was nice, but kinda seemed slow for me. It would of been my first choice but I could not for the life of me find out what was causing it.
Mokee is also fast, they do have daily updates (Lets me know that someone is working on it) it's open source, but the only thing that killed it for me was the Chinese apps that was built in the rom.
Im not sure about the model of your phone if it's D2lte or Jflte here are download links for both.
http://www.slimroms.net/index.php/news/450-important-notice-for-d2lte-and-jflte-users
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Thx, I got to flash slimkat 4.4.4! Would you know the link to QuantumKernel as well? and I'm d2lte btw.
Also what did you like about this kernel?
drakemiller40 said:
Thx, I got to flash slimkat 4.4.4! Would you know the link to QuantumKernel as well? and I'm d2lte btw.
Also what did you like about this kernel?
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The kernel is stable as can be, no lock ups. It's fast, out of the box so you dont have to overclock, and better battery life in the end.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2390147
So my Dad decided he doesn't like his G3 - I know, he's crazy. So we have decided to swap phones. I had a Nexus 5 which I loved. I'm looking to get the G3 as close to stock lollipop as I possibly can as my Fun Prevention Officer (wife) has the Gold G3 and I'm less than impressed with the standard ROM.
I've had a look through the threads here searching about for a stock ROM and it seems there are plenty available but I wanted to get some opinions on what you guys think is the most stable.
I'm well up on ADB, rooting etc so I don't need help with the method, just your opinions on the 'best' , most stable closest to stock Lollipop ROM.
Cheers dudes and dudesses.
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So my Dad decided he doesn't like his G3 - I know, he's crazy. So we have decided to swap phones. I had a Nexus 5 which I loved. I'm looking to get the G3 as close to stock lollipop as I possibly can as my Fun Prevention Officer (wife) has the Gold G3 and I'm less than impressed with the standard ROM.
I've had a look through the threads here searching about for a stock ROM and it seems there are plenty available but I wanted to get some opinions on what you guys think is the most stable.
I'm well up on ADB, rooting etc so I don't need help with the method, just your opinions on the 'best' , most stable closest to stock Lollipop ROM.
Cheers dudes and dudesses.
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Hello, I'm new on the formus but I have tried several stock rom versions for my variant (D855). I think that Cloudy G 2.1 is one of the best lollipop stock rom version you can try. It is updated to the latest (20F) version, it's debloated and bumped and it is pretty stable (the only bug I know is the bluetooth issues present in all stock versions):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/development/rom-cloudyg3-1-0-t2917467
Finally keep in mind that we have a Official CM 12 build in the Android Original development section that works flawless in case you like (much more like AOSP).
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Hello, I'm new on the formus but I have tried several stock rom versions for my variant (D855). I think that Cloudy G 2.1 is one of the best lollipop stock rom version you can try. It is updated to the latest (20F) version, it's debloated and bumped and it is pretty stable (the only bug I know is the bluetooth issues present in all stock versions):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/development/rom-cloudyg3-1-0-t2917467
Finally keep in mind that we have a Official CM 12 build in the Android Original development section that works flawless in case you like (much more like AOSP).
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Thanks straim. I'm looking for something closer to the Nexus 5 really. I saw the Official CM12 had been released but wasn't sure on the stability being a nightly.
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Thanks straim. I'm looking for something closer to the Nexus 5 really. I saw the Official CM12 had been released but wasn't sure on the stability being a nightly.
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If you want stock close to LG: Cloudy: stable
If you want stock close to "naked" android: CM12: I would not use it as a daily driver yet, but i'll sure do in a more stable state.
Thanks raptor. I guess stability would come above stock Android in my priorities list. I'll give Cloudy a whirl...
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Thanks raptor. I guess stability would come above stock Android in my priorities list. I'll give Cloudy a whirl...
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That's for sure, CM is fantastic but they need a bit of time to make it good. Cloudy is a good transition phase. Guess LG's rom is pretty good.
There are other Roms in the dev section, but I haven't really looked at them.
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That's for sure, CM is fantastic but they need a bit of time to make it good. Cloudy is a good transition phase. Guess LG's rom is pretty good.
There are other Roms in the dev section, but I haven't really looked at them.
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Yeah I had a glance through them.
Cloudy it is then. At least until CM gets an M release out....
Thanks again all.
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the only bug I know is the bluetooth issues present in all stock versions.
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Can anyone tell me more about this? I have G Watch R. Is this going to cause me problems?
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Can anyone tell me more about this? I have G Watch R. Is this going to cause me problems?
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The bug causes audio glitches and sometimes is necessary to unlink an link the device to avoid issues like battery drain. You can seek something like "Bluetooth|car audio issues" in general or q&a forums for more information.
Ps: I use cm 12 as daily driver.
What about for me that I use wireless headphones, will that affect me?
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I recommend you stick with stock roms (Cloudy or ChupaChups), as the AOSP roms like CyanogenMod have dreadful camera software and quality. It's like you're back from LG G3 to a Nexus 4 camera, it's s**t! Sound volumes are also lower on AOSP, has something to do with drivers i think... But for the rest, cyanogenmod is stable, quick, light on the battery, and real pleasing to the eyes as it's one of the best looking roms on the market with themes support and all... But if you want to make the best out of your G3, use Cloudy G3 2.1. It's as fast and light on resources as cyanogenmod 12, as good looking if you flash the Lollipop theme (link on the first page of Cloudy thread), but you get to keep the amazing camera quality and sound volumes of the stock rom. After 2 months of flashing and testing roms on my G3, i can say, Cloudy has the winner here, hands down!
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I recommend you stick with stock roms (Cloudy or ChupaChups), as the AOSP roms like CyanogenMod have dreadful camera software and quality. It's like you're back from LG G3 to a Nexus 4 camera, it's s**t! Sound volumes are also lower on AOSP, has something to do with drivers i think... But for the rest, cyanogenmod is stable, quick, light on the battery, and real pleasing to the eyes as it's one of the best looking roms on the market with themes support and all... But if you want to make the best out of your G3, use Cloudy G3 2.1. It's as fast and light on resources as cyanogenmod 12, as good looking if you flash the Lollipop theme (link on the first page of Cloudy thread), but you get to keep the amazing camera quality and sound volumes of the stock rom. After 2 months of flashing and testing roms on my G3, i can say, Cloudy has the winner here, hands down!
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Thanks! What does ChupaChups have that cloudy doesn't?
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So what's the latest on Cyanogenmod? Is it stable yet? I used it for a while a few months ago but would have random locks and have to do a battery pull.
I have Cloudy 2.2 at the moment but honestly, I'm not a fan. I really want CM12 but only if it's stable.
What's the verdict?
can't go past full stock ( regular updates with http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/development/stock-t2961073 ), and G3 TweaksBox. works like a charm even though TweaksBox and the Xposed framework are both in alpha
Does someone compare the last versions of Cloudy and Chupa Chups ?
I rooted my phone and installed TWRP however looking at the custom ROMs , I don't know if it is a good idea at this point to install one. What are your recommendations especially in regards to fluidity, battery life, antutu scores, daily usage and everything working?
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I rooted my phone and installed TWRP however looking at the custom ROMs , I don't know if it is a good idea at this point to install one. What are your recommendations especially in regards to fluidity, battery life, antutu scores, daily usage and everything working?
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MIUI will give u the best fluidity
Battery life are pretty much the same
Antutu is pointless
Most ROMs have everything working
If you're all set you might as well test them, just remember to format data if going from MIUI to custom otherwise it will bootloop
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MIUI will give u the best fluidity
Battery life are pretty much the same
Antutu is pointless
Most ROMs have everything working
If you're all set you might as well test them, just remember to format data if going from MIUI to custom otherwise it will bootloop
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Coming from Zuk. Z2 I'm not a newb to flashing but I haven't heard anything but issues on most ROMs I've looked at... Newer phone so makes sense but I wanted to more establish if there was stability and which ones are in fact more stable...
However if MIUI is the most fluid... Might Stick on that for another few months
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Coming from Zuk. Z2 I'm not a newb to flashing but I haven't heard anything but issues on most ROMs I've looked at... Newer phone so makes sense but I wanted to more establish if there was stability and which ones are in fact more stable...
However if MIUI is the most fluid... Might Stick on that for another few months
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I keep going back to MIUI, ABC rom seems to be the most stable for me but after a couple days system UI begins to crash.
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I keep going back to MIUI, ABC rom seems to be the most stable for me but after a couple days system UI begins to crash.
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I think I agree with you there.... Why move if you aren't going to improve
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Coming from Zuk. Z2 I'm not a newb to flashing but I haven't heard anything but issues on most ROMs I've looked at... Newer phone so makes sense but I wanted to more establish if there was stability and which ones are in fact more stable...
However if MIUI is the most fluid... Might Stick on that for another few months
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That's been the normal state of custom ROMs on the last few phones I've owned including the supposedly development friendly One Plus 5. I think the problem is that custom ROMs are rarely maintained by people who actually use the ROM and device as their daily driver. You can't make a good ROM for a phone you aren't even using so the ROMs always have bugs that the devs aren't aware of until users report them. There was only one One Plus 5 ROM that didn't have bugs and it was also the only custom ROM by a developer who actually used the phone everyday. One of the ROM devs for this phone even admitted that he wouldn't consider using his own ROM on his primary phone which pretty much says it all.
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I rooted my phone and installed TWRP however looking at the custom ROMs , I don't know if it is a good idea at this point to install one. What are your recommendations especially in regards to fluidity, battery life, antutu scores, daily usage and everything working?
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I have been using LineageOS Unofficial for a couple of months, and now the official for over a month. Everything just works. Things are smooth, and works real nice without any of the wonkiness I had with MIUI. I always struggled a bit to make MIUI work like I wanted. Then again, I greatly appreciate a stock-ish experience. I am even running Substratum.
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I have been using LineageOS Unofficial for a couple of months, and now the official for over a month. Everything just works. Things are smooth, and works real nice without any of the wonkiness I had with MIUI. I always struggled a bit to make MIUI work like I wanted. Then again, I greatly appreciate a stock-ish experience. I am even running Substratum.
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100% agree