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Despite the bad reviews I picked up a Liveview yesterday. Was $50 brand new off Craigslist. And surprise surprise, it turned out to be a turd. Well, I don't like to waste money, so I set about modding it. Thought some people here might be interested to see what I did.
So far I've waterproofed the case. Next I'll be building a better strap, one that doesn't make it huge or block the USB port. http://www.jax184.com/projects/liveview/liveview.html has everything I've done so far on it.
Nice i got that thing and it "worked" but still with the having to restart it all the time was very annoying but i ended up sending mine back
So I've been using the Liveview for a couple days, or at least trying to. Even after doing a full reset of the device, reinstalling the software on my phone and removing all the plugins, it has a battery life of about 6-8 hours. In that time I turned the screen on twice, and it briefly lit up to tell me of an incoming call. No texts, no alerts, and I don't have farcebook/twatter/etc turned on. It sat 2 feet from my phone the entire time. If I actually try to use the damn thing to, say, control the media player, the battery goes dead in 2 to 3 hours.
Pathetic...
I've decided I'm going to build it into a custom case for a friend of mine with a much larger battery, since the stock one is completely and utterly useless. So much for my gasket job...
Not sure if the battery is just dying on yours or what but if I never touch the screen, mine lasts for a couple days at least (and that's with alerts!). Sad to hear yours has issues :\
Mine's brand new and running the latest firmware/software with the bare minimum of functionality enabled, so I'm as confused as you.
I have a liveview and i absolutely love it. I dont have any connection issues but i mostly just use it as a watch with out having it connected over bluetooth and the battery lasts for days when i do that. I do have an issue now where i dropped it and the select button on top doesnt work anymore
Can I connect multiple liveviews to my phone?
I just bought 4 of them for $15 a pop !! Sweet
I know I can use it with torque which is cool
what else can I do with them? Can I run album art to it from say player pro? or Pocket Casts?
is there a decent list somewhere of "interesting" things you can do with the little buggers?
Hi, do someone know the dimensions of the battery, because i have one with death batt. and need a replacement.
nice mod! Based on the pictures I can see the battery size in case I need to replace it, by the way using notifications my watch last 2.5 days, using a plugin last only 30minutes or less
nerys71 said:
Can I connect multiple liveviews to my phone?
I know I can use it with torque which is cool
what else can I do with them? Can I run album art to it from say player pro? or Pocket Casts?
is there a decent list somewhere of "interesting" things you can do with the little buggers?
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+1 I just got one for $15, I wanna find some cool things I can do with it. What have you done to set yours up?
its a pain in the freaking butt. cool potential poor execution.
it constantly gets disconnected when something goes wrong ON THE DROID SIDE. terminating the app and relaunching it solves the problem for X period of time (few hours ??)
the most convenient access is also the worst designed. the watch band. YOU CAN NOT CHARGE IT WHILE IN THE WATCH BAND.
what freaking moron though that was a good idea to force us to remove it (VERY difficult) to charge it.
if the software bugs get worked out I may look into modding the stinking socket so I can charge it while in watch mode (thinking of RIVETING the case to the band) then I won't need the little watch pin thingy that is keeping me from charging it while its in the watch band.
and there is just not that many "cool" apps to use for it yet or the few out their are poorly executed.
how hard can it be to reliably push the freaking album art to the watch ?
nerys71 said:
its a pain in the freaking butt. cool potential poor execution.
it constantly gets disconnected when something goes wrong ON THE DROID SIDE. terminating the app and relaunching it solves the problem for X period of time (few hours ??)
the most convenient access is also the worst designed. the watch band. YOU CAN NOT CHARGE IT WHILE IN THE WATCH BAND.
what freaking moron though that was a good idea to force us to remove it (VERY difficult) to charge it.
if the software bugs get worked out I may look into modding the stinking socket so I can charge it while in watch mode (thinking of RIVETING the case to the band) then I won't need the little watch pin thingy that is keeping me from charging it while its in the watch band.
and there is just not that many "cool" apps to use for it yet or the few out their are poorly executed.
how hard can it be to reliably push the freaking album art to the watch ?
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Brother....
For disconnect issue , install this app
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ishii.app.liveviewcharm
Its really bad remove device all time from strap : (
Hope it help you
2 Generations of Liveviews
Just to be clear, there are 2 versions of this device floating about... The older one goes for around $20 and is not much more than a novelty... The newer model runs around $100 and seems to have fixed the battery life issue... One should look at the Pebble once it is available as a possible alternative...
openliveview
Drewmungus said:
+1 I just got one for $15, I wanna find some cool things I can do with it. What have you done to set yours up?
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I started creating a usable gui for the openliveview project. Theo openliveview project is an open source reimplementation Of the liveview app.
You van follow the development in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1422106&page=26
Note: you have to uninstall the liveview app bevore you van install openliveview
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I have a liveview and i absolutely love it. I dont have any connection issues but i mostly just use it as a watch with out having it connected over bluetooth and the battery lasts for days when i do that. I do have an issue now where i dropped it and the select button on top doesnt work anymore
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This might help you. It won't solve the issue of select button, but it'll help you read notifications.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40041226
Where can you find one for 15 bucks? Even if it did nothing, I'd want it for 15 bucks, just to have as a key for my phone using tasker. I supposed I could get any old bluetooth headset, but I wanted something wearable.
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Where can you find one for 15 bucks? Even if it did nothing, I'd want it for 15 bucks, just to have as a key for my phone using tasker. I supposed I could get any old bluetooth headset, but I wanted something wearable.
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Yeah, $15 is AWESOME!
$18 with Free shipping on ebay buy it now is the best price I can find so far.
I bought four of them and donated 2 to the local hackerspace.
Would be wicked to control more than one at once. I'm trying to find some chick to wear two as earrings.
Perhaps one controlled with Sony app and one Open Liveview App each for one mac address.
Contrary to earlier post, I seem to be able to have both Sony and Openliveview apps installed at once (though haven't tried RUNNING both) yet.
My battery life across the two that I've evaluated and (a third I lost to the ocean) seems significantly better than the average reported above.
But a LOT of variables have changed since the OP. New firmware, new app, new phone, new bt stack, new android versions...
My impression IIRC is that this thing is ROCK SOLID on CyanogenMod7 or CM9 on evo 3d.
After a couple days, what are your feels?
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After a couple days, what are your feels?
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I like it, my issues are not with the hardware, although I won't lie and say I don't wish for more battery life. My issues are with how beta android wear feels. Hopefully google will give it some TLC, but google seems like a company that puts a lot of effort into something, releases it then forgets it.
Anyhoo, especially after seeing the atrocity that is the apple watch I'm going to keep my 360 and of course eventually grab a Note 4. It's kind of a gimmick right now, but at least it's a nice looking gimmick and I'll give google the benefit of the doubt.
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I have no problems with the speed of it - haven't noticed any stuttering or anything that people have mentioned. However, the battery is complete crap. I tried to use it today when I played 18 holes of golf w/ the Swing by Swing app (which actually works _very_ well w/ the watch, showing distance and letting you input your scores on the watch). The watch went from 95% to 0% on hole 12, about 3 hours in (slow play!). I only turned the watch on a few times a hole and didn't get any messages or anything in the meanwhile. The watch has also gone from 100% to 5% when used as a sleep tracker for 5 1/2 hours.
It's OK. I realized from day one that this is SQUARELY first/early adopter territory. As far as the battery goes, luckily, recharging takes only a little time. I found the secret is the mid day recharge. I turned off ambient mode and my phone was at 75% after almost 5 hours. Over lunch I tossed it on an old Nokia charger I had for 20 minutes and had over 90%. Right now it's 8:30p and I have 60%.
Midday charge while you're at the desk for 20 minutes erases all worries. Should you have to do it... No. But if you do it eliminates a pretty annoying issue.
The leather band annoys me, because I hate leather bands. The Pebble bands don't do it for me, just my opinion sorry, just being honest. Was it so fu^king hard to allow enough room for any band? The "notch" is just a slap in the face.
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It's OK. I realized from day one that this is SQUARELY first/early adopter territory. As far as the battery goes, luckily, recharging takes only a little time. I found the secret is the mid day recharge. I turned off ambient mode and my phone was at 75% after almost 5 hours. Over lunch I tossed it on an old Nokia charger I had for 20 minutes and had over 90%. Right now it's 8:30p and I have 60%.
Midday charge while you're at the desk for 20 minutes erases all worries. Should you have to do it... No. But if you do it eliminates a pretty annoying issue.
The leather band annoys me, because I hate leather bands. The Pebble bands don't do it for me, just my opinion sorry, just being honest. Was it so fu^king hard to allow enough room for any band? The "notch" is just a slap in the face.
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Yep, we all have to realize we are kind of alpha testing here. The Moto 360 version 2 will probably be decent, and version 3 will be awesome.
And maybe by the next version Motorola find a way to keep the small bezel and have a fully round screen.
I agree, it's OK. I sold my Gear 2 to get this because I didn't like the square/plastic combo, and thought I didn't like the OS, but frankly the way the interface worked was much better than Android Wear. It had a great looking display and got 3-4 days of battery life!
But it's a watch, so looks mean a lot... I may have to return this bad boy and wait for the LG R, or the Moto 362, lol...
-My only hope is that since this is Android there will be some decent development happening, but after reading some posts I'm not so sure...
I'm in the UK so still waiting for it to be released here. Blessing in disguise for me as I'm not one to be an early adopter so by the time it is released, I'll have the wealth of knowledge from US user comments/reviews before I pull the trigger on it.
I think the device is doing quite well for a first release. The battery on ambient mode lasts all the way until I get home from work and will last a workout as well counting all my steps and monitoring my heart rate several times. I also think overall the watch looks pretty executive. Has a professional look and feel to it. Can't help but think all the square smart watches are too "kid-like".
As previously mentioned, once android wear adds features and apps start catching up I think there is really great potential for the device.
I love it. Does what I need it to do, which is notify me and let me respond to texts and certain apps. I can use it for navigation and some Google questions. I take it off the charger around 6am and by the time i charge it at night (around 10pm) it still has 30-40%. I am a light user... meaning, I dont need (and turned off) Google Now (watch telling me info w/out asking). I don't care for step count or heart rate cuz I run at night anyway. I dont care to add games or browsing apps on it. That is what my phone is for. What I use it for may not be worth $250, but its the best looking (IMO) and there are not much AW options out right now.
Just glad I don't have to constantly check my phone for any important notifications from work or family.
The only thing i wish it had was a speaker phone.
I'm on my 4th day and really like it but I'll be honest I wished Samsung had a round watch and running Android Wear all because I plan to get the Note 4.
Besides that my battery seemed to improve with every charge. Only thing I wish was to be able to turn off vibration and still see notifications when it comes. So far if I scroll top to bottom it will turn off vibration and notifications. Unless I'm doing it wrong.
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After the 1st day of having it I thought I would sell it because I didn't think the watch did much and I thought I'd be judged by friends and coworkers for buying a smart watch (half kidding) but android wear has grown on me and everyone who's seen it loves it.
For the record I was an android user a few years ago, switched for an iPhone (not because I wanted) and after a year and a half I'm now Android.
So I bought Moto 360 and Moto G 2nd (since nexus 5 is out of stock) .
After receiving the package here I was thinking about all the cool stuff I can do with a Moto 360.
I planned to do:
- See what time it is without looking at my phone like a retard.
- See my heartbeat while I was running, I use RunKeeper so it would be cool to see the integration.
- See cool apps with this thing.
- Applying a sort-of pomodoro time technique into my work.
- Seeing all soft of reminders from the so called Google now cards.
- Unlocking my phone without writing a NSA-FBI-CIA security code since I am using a Moto 360 the phone could detect the proximity and unlock only by sliding the lock.
Reality check:
- I see what time it is like a normal dude looking at his wrist.
- My heartbeat? Yeah... give me 10 seconds "Ok google what's show me my heartbeat"
- Cool apps? There's a compass app that show you the north where's west... There's a stopwatch that resets to zero if I try to do anything else.
- Pomodoro technique.. There's an app that sorts of do that but I haven't try it yet (because I'm too busy configuring the 10001 options that each Android has)
- I think I'm seeing this although I've to be at my gym at 8:20 PM, it's 8:21PM so... thank you for the reminder.
- No how I was expecting, the device can still be unlocked if the watch is 5 meters away from the device.
Am I the only one that's getting this problems?
Sorry for any engrish mistakes but I have to run for the gym...
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For the record I was an android user a few years ago, switched for an iPhone (not because I wanted) and after a year and a half I'm now Android.
So I bought Moto 360 and Moto G 2nd (since nexus 5 is out of stock) .
After receiving the package here I was thinking about all the cool stuff I can do with a Moto 360.
I planned to do:
- See what time it is without looking at my phone like a retard.
- See my heartbeat while I was running, I use RunKeeper so it would be cool to see the integration.
- See cool apps with this thing.
- Applying a sort-of pomodoro time technique into my work.
- Seeing all soft of reminders from the so called Google now cards.
- Unlocking my phone without writing a NSA-FBI-CIA security code since I am using a Moto 360 the phone could detect the proximity and unlock only by sliding the lock.
Reality check:
- I see what time it is like a normal dude looking at his wrist.
- My heartbeat? Yeah... give me 10 seconds "Ok google what's show me my heartbeat"
- Cool apps? There's a compass app that show you the north where's west... There's a stopwatch that resets to zero if I try to do anything else.
- Pomodoro technique.. There's an app that sorts of do that but I haven't try it yet (because I'm too busy configuring the 10001 options that each Android has)
- I think I'm seeing this although I've to be at my gym at 8:20 PM, it's 8:21PM so... thank you for the reminder.
- No how I was expecting, the device can still be unlocked if the watch is 5 meters away from the device.
Am I the only one that's getting this problems?
Sorry for any engrish mistakes but I have to run for the gym...
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It looks cool even with a black screen and people will compliment it and ask you about it. That is its best feature. Enjoy.
Droid9 said:
It looks cool even with a black screen and people will compliment it and ask you about it. That is its best feature. Enjoy.
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yeah, don't get me wrong. The hardware is OK! The software is bad designed. Moto had the opportunity to be one of the firsts to have this hardware. When Apple Watch gets out it will be absurd to see, once again, Apple gaining popularity.
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yeah, don't get me wrong. The hardware is OK! The software is bad designed. Moto had the opportunity to be one of the firsts to have this hardware. When Apple Watch gets out it will be absurd to see, once again, Apple gaining popularity.
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Well first of all the hardware is not just OK its by far the best on the market period. Apple's is SQUARE and looks terrible. Only round watches are cool, dumb or smart, so Apple missed the boat big time. Also its not Moto that missed the boat, they didn't really design any of the software, its Google/Android that did. And that will change. But my opinion is who cares? I own the watch and I have to admit its a useless item I never use for anything, not even telling the time. Apple will not succeeded either. It's just not a needed item... kind of like 3D TVs. But its cool to have for now.
Enjoy.
I pretty much got this watch because it looks sweet. I will say having notifications on your wrist is very handy especially when working out not having to lug around a huge phone and washing dishes..things of that sort. But honestly if it didn't look so sweet and futuristic I would never have bought one. I paid $130 for mine so for me a new time piece along with notifications on my wrist is worth the cost. All this extra unreliable stuff it has I could really care less for. I think android wear still needs work even though it is improving. I'm anxious to see what the next gen moto360 brings though.
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I pretty much got this watch because it looks sweet. I will say having notifications on your wrist is very handy especially when working out not having to lug around a huge phone and washing dishes..things of that sort. But honestly if it didn't look so sweet and futuristic I would never have bought one. I paid $130 for mine so for me a new time piece along with notifications on my wrist is worth the cost. All this extra unreliable stuff it has I could really care less for. I think android wear still needs work even though it is improving. I'm anxious to see what the next gen moto360 brings though.
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My problem with the notifications is they are still silly because you cant be more than 10 feet away from your phone to get them. 90% of the time my phone is in my pocket and I feel it vibrate first and then the watch 2nd. And I never reply on the watch, I mean come on guys how many of you are really walking around saying "OK Google..." to your watch... its awkward, embarrassing, and just doesn't even work very well in almost all situations because of other noise. The voice thing is almost pure novelty and always will be, for Apple too. And I don't think I would ever want to type on my watch even if I could. This is just not a practical, needed device for 99% of the us and in 99% of the situations.
I guess if it had its own data plan so you could leave your phone at home and just use the watch for everything that might help... but would any of you really want to do that??
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I pretty much got this watch because it looks sweet. I will say having notifications on your wrist is very handy especially when working out not having to lug around a huge phone and washing dishes..things of that sort. But honestly if it didn't look so sweet and futuristic I would never have bought one. I paid $130 for mine so for me a new time piece along with notifications on my wrist is worth the cost. All this extra unreliable stuff it has I could really care less for. I think android wear still needs work even though it is improving. I'm anxious to see what the next gen moto360 brings though.
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How did you get a Moto 360 for $130? Used?
I tell people this, is it a have to have Necessity? Absolutely not! But I do find it useful.
I always tell people one particular story which to me, highlights the usefulness of this device.
The second day of owning this watch, my phone was upstairs charging, because it accidentally didn't plugged in correctly the night before. I was downstairs doing my end of the month Quickbooks. All of the sudden I hear my phone go off upstairs telling me that I had a new text message. My first thought is "ah crap, I wonder what that message was" .. but then ... Bzzzzzz .. my watched buzzed on my wrist.
I looked at my wrist and I saw I had a text from a girl I know who works at the local grocery store. She said "We have 3 different types of lettuces for 98 cents."
So then I swiped over and said (with my voice) "Thanks for the heads". BOOM! Done. I was like THAT is so sweet!
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I also love the Android wear aware app, that when you leave your phone at home or in a public place, once you get far enough away, your wrist goes nuts telling you you left your phone behind.
One day I was backing out of my driveway. I made it to the street when all of the sudden my wrist started buzzing with a red picture of a phone with a line through it on my watch, telling me I left it inside.
google play music controls
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you can just double-tap to open voice control. i hate saying "ok google"
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I'm a heavy user of google services so I find it useful
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How did you get a Moto 360 for $130? Used?
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there was a guy in my area selling a batch of them for $130 a piece. they were probably stolen lol
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My problem with the notifications is they are still silly because you cant be more than 10 feet away from your phone to get them. 90% of the time my phone is in my pocket and I feel it vibrate first and then the watch 2nd. And I never reply on the watch, I mean come on guys how many of you are really walking around saying "OK Google..." to your watch... its awkward, embarrassing, and just doesn't even work very well in almost all situations because of other noise. The voice thing is almost pure novelty and always will be, for Apple too. And I don't think I would ever want to type on my watch even if I could. This is just not a practical, needed device for 99% of the us and in 99% of the situations.
I guess if it had its own data plan so you could leave your phone at home and just use the watch for everything that might help... but would any of you really want to do that??
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i disagree. like I said sometimes it is much more convenient for instance when I'm working out to not have to whip out my phone to even SEE who it is and if its even worth responding. Or if I leave my phone downstairs by mistake its still nice to get the notification. Plus Like I said, the watch looks sweet so I never feel like I'm being some uber geek by wearing it even its just to get notifications. I can get notifications clear on the opposite side of the gym so I don't have that 10 foot issue. There are also other sms apps like coffee you can get where you don't have to talk to your wrist. that works very well.
At the end of the day if it doesn't work for you just sell it
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google play music controls
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you can just double-tap to open voice control. i hate saying "ok google"
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I'm a heavy user of google services so I find it useful
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Responding with voice on chat message from my daughter's is awesome when driving
Responding via voice can actually be more discreet than pulling out the phone. I've found that I can put the watch up near my mouth and talk quietly enough that the person sitting next to me can't hear me. I've responded to messages in movie theaters without anyone knowing, not something I could do with my phone.
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My problem with the notifications is they are still silly because you cant be more than 10 feet away from your phone to get them. 90% of the time my phone is in my pocket and I feel it vibrate first and then the watch 2nd. And I never reply on the watch, I mean come on guys how many of you are really walking around saying "OK Google..." to your watch... its awkward, embarrassing, and just doesn't even work very well in almost all situations because of other noise. The voice thing is almost pure novelty and always will be, for Apple too. And I don't think I would ever want to type on my watch even if I could. This is just not a practical, needed device for 99% of the us and in 99% of the situations.
I guess if it had its own data plan so you could leave your phone at home and just use the watch for everything that might help... but would any of you really want to do that??
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You've jumped in at the wrong point I think - I'll be honest the only reason I have one is because I'm a bit of a geek and wanted to be able to say to my grandkids "I was one of the first..." It'll be interesting to see how the Apple Watch pans out, right now it looks like it's just going to be a fashion accessory (hey isn't that what all Apples are though..) (he types into this macbook).
As for the voice thing, I use it all the time. I get some funny looks but most of the time (especially amongst 30+ year old people) I tend to get looks of amazement and often "did you really just talk to your watch?" type statements. My biggest gripe with it is that if my phone is within listening distance, it too starts to do what I've asked it, which is pretty annoying. Google had the foresight to "mute phone when android wear device is connected" but not to stop listening when I'm talking to my watch..?
Other than that, it's a complete gimmick, all be it a pretty one. I do get more use out of notifications on my wrist than I thought I would, and having something on my person that auto locks/unlocks my mac and phone is pretty sweet, but beyond that... Also, somewhat annoyingly, I have an app that's supposed to buzz if it disconnects from my phone/tablet. Fool be me. I lost my tablet on a train (totally my fault but still)
I've all but given up on the heartbeat sensor too, it really doesn't like sweat.
When the first mobiles out market, long time ago there was no people talking with a mobile on the street and most people feel that this was embarrassing... But today it's normal to call on streets... Same happens with moto 360 in near future say ok Google or tell something to the watch will be normal... We ar pioneers... It is cool to reply a menssage while driving, or make a call while you are driving without taking the phone... It is cool to receive notifications on moto... But if someone feel that moto is not cool much better to sell it than wear it and complain...
About the embrasing stuff my friends are already used to it and find it cool! It is a great convorsatiom starter and just resopning with voice when in class is amazing (phone's are forbidden in class) so why do you care to get straigers looking at you like wuth is he doing? You will never see them again so there is no problem for me.
And it is amazing to withness the growth of a new kind of technologie I love every update to see what they inproved
I am seriously debating getting myself a Sony Smartwatch 3, but my usage scenario is rather peculiar/complicated, therefore i really need your help.
First of all, let me tell you that i have had many smartwatches in the past, but never so far an Android Wear device.
My main phone is an iPhone 6 Plus and it shall remain my main phone. I also have an Android device handy at most times (right now it is a Galaxy K Zoom).
XDA member @MohammadAG has already demonstrated (but not yet released) his method for sending iOS notifications over to Android Wear and i have seen in some tech sites that an official Google solution might possibly come in the future.
Let me now tell you what my main usage case will be:
I have a BT 4.0 HR strap (from Wahoo) and i want to connect it to the watch and use it to monitor my HR while jogging. My health condition requires a rather careful monitoring of my HR so that it does not deviate from a certain comfort zone while exercising.
I have already seen there is a thread where people are discussing about this. However, i would be obliged if someone could certify that the Smartwatch 3 would work with a Wahoo HR strap while recording the route via GPS. Of course i need this to be happening while the Watch is offline - not connected to a phone. Can it also play music via BT at the same time?
I could instead purchase a dedicated sports watch, but:
a) I find them ugly
b) They are too big
c) They do nothing more
What do you think? Would the Smartwatch 3 work in this usage scenario?
Would you recommend the rubber one or the metal one?
Thank you very much in advance.
As long as your android device is 4.3 or later, you should be good to go. Someone in another thread said their wahoo tickr works fine. All btle HRMs seem to be working.
https://support.google.com/androidwear/answer/6056401?hl=en
Thank you sir. Any comments about the GPS accuracy?
Mine is accurate, im using runkeeper, I run without smartphone. ...booom what a feeling
@supac Are you also using a BLE HR strap at the same time? Does Runkeeper on the watch show the HR rate on screen ?
No iPhone and no HR device on Wear watch
I've seen a big deterioration on the GPS on mine, not in accuracy but in position lock. I only use mine for running nowadays so it's powered off mostly and I never get a GPS lock the first attempt. I have to first connect it to my phone, then go near a window, try to get GPS sync, then when I do I can disconnect the phone and go out running. Too much of a hassle IMO. I think the watch needs daily communication with a phone i.e. internet to have a properly working GPS. My guess is it needs to update the GPS data frequently.
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Thank you sir. Any comments about the GPS accuracy?
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Very accurate when it's connected to my Xperia Z3. I used it with my tablet before I got the phone and can say its a little lame without the portability of a phone, as well as data usage. I love Sony, and I'll say go support them, but if you're dum- very determined on using an iPhone then why not get Apple's shinanigans. I was debating between this and a Garmin 920xt and it was basically deciding between a milkshake and a smoothie.
I'm too consider this watch to replace my motoactv. But problem is I'm using iPhone even though I owned an android tablet. [emoji4]
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My experience
I use the SW3 with a RHYTHM+ BT HRM and LG BT headphones and so run with no phone - GPS, music and heart rate tracking all through the watch. I use the Ghostracer app which has very customizable wear screens, and I have HR showing there. It also uploads seamlessly to Strava once I reconnect the phone.
The GPS accuracy is not as good as my old garmin, but it is better than my Samsung S5 in a waist strap (i.e., before I switched to just the watch)
Top tip, turn off the phone bluetooth before you start. The wear needs to be disconnected before it will work in standalone mode for the run.
Biggest downside? No audible feedback from the running apps yet. So no lap pace, time etc. But then again, the data is right on your wrist.
With my set up the watch battery dies at approx 30% an hour. So if you are running a marathon, better step it up!
Verizon has the watch for $199 - no need to use their cell service to order.
Oh - and in summary - YES, totally recommend it. Best thing since my MotoActv, and it means i can keep my phone in my pocket during the day where it belongs. Not to mention other cool apps, like one that will analyze your golf swing.
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@supac Are you also using a BLE HR strap at the same time? Does Runkeeper on the watch show the HR rate on screen ?
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No hr strap...but I read that they do work. Planning to by one
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mertzi said:
I've seen a big deterioration on the GPS on mine, not in accuracy but in position lock. I only use mine for running nowadays so it's powered off mostly and I never get a GPS lock the first attempt. I have to first connect it to my phone, then go near a window, try to get GPS sync, then when I do I can disconnect the phone and go out running. Too much of a hassle IMO. I think the watch needs daily communication with a phone i.e. internet to have a properly working GPS. My guess is it needs to update the GPS data frequently.
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Tip: it takes about 40 seconds for a cold lock. Start your app outside, do stretches then start running.
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No hr strap...but I read that they do work. Planning to by one
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Tip: it takes about 40 seconds for a cold lock. Start your app outside, do stretches then start running.
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It used to but not any longer. The last time, before I started doing what I described, I waited for 5+ minutes without a lock. On that occasion the watch had been powered off for 2 weeks and not synced with my phone. So I went home, synced to my phone and then I got a lock within a minute. That's why I'm convinced the watch relies on some kind of A-GPS solution and needs access to the internet frequently to work properly.
I bought a Smartwatch 3 when they first came out; primarily because I wanted a simple heart rate monitor, but as I could get the Sony for not much more and perhaps get some additional functionality I thought it would be good to try. In the end though, I never did find a simple heart rate monitor application which I was satisfied with so 2 weeks ago I bought a Polar M400. This works superbly as a heart rate monitor and activity tracker, has a very good (albeit monochrome) display and also has a built-in GPS. In the 2 weeks I've has it, the battery indicator as gone down to a little over half, so I expect the battery to last 3 or 4 weeks.
Of course, the Polar doesn't give me notifications and I can't play flappy bird on it or talk to it, but Polar have announced that they will release an update which will enable it to show notifications and this is the only thing which I would in any way want anyway. Overall, this should be a good compromise for me as long as the battery life doesn't suffer too much. I'll probably sell my Sony and perhaps get another real smart watch when the battery life and apps have improved. In my opinion, Android Wear could have captured a good part of the sport watch market if it would have included a good fitness app right from the start.
-Mark.
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Verizon has the watch for $199 - no need to use their cell service to order.
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Yup. I went in there on my lunch break with my T-Mobile clothes and name tag on and they sold it to me. (No, I don't have an account with VZW! [emoji13] )
I love mine. I had the Moto 360 and G Watch R beforehand, but I really like the square, TFT screen of the Smartwatch 3.
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Yup. I went in there on my lunch break with my T-Mobile clothes and name tag on and they sold it to me. (No, I don't have an account with VZW! [emoji13] )
I love mine. I had the Moto 360 and G Watch R beforehand, but I really like the square, TFT screen of the Smartwatch 3.
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The TFT screen is amazing! So many sites would knock it for it, but it's very impressive tech. Yes, it doesn't have the best colors like other watches but the best part of it is that I can ALWAYS see the time even with having the screen off. So battery life is very good on this watch. That is perfect for a watch and why I chose the Sony SW 3.
So the current deal on the Google Store is $50 off and $50 Google play credit, so a net $150. I would rather have the metal version, bit I think this may be too good of a deal. Any clue why Google only sells the silicon version?
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So the current deal on the Google Store is $50 off and $50 Google play credit, so a net $150. I would rather have the metal version, bit I think this may be too good of a deal. Any clue why Google only sells the silicon version?
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Think its the main version available everywhere. I think the metal version is very limited.
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Think its the main version available everywhere. I think the metal version is very limited.
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Yeah, like pretty much unavailable limited here in the US, lol. I can't find anywhere but Ebay mark up trolls that have it, and most are in the Russian Federation.
It looks amazing, you should definitely buy it.
My experience is the same as guyoutred. I use it with a Mio Link BTLE HRM and Motorola S11-HD BT heaphones while running. Ghostracer is the way to go, also wish it had audible updates and autolaps. GPS was dead-on today, but yesterday (cloudy, rainy) it tracked my run but had my position move south several miles then back again. Showed me with a 2min/mile pace.
I'm using the Walkman app for music, tried the Wear Music app but it was very cumbersome. This bad boy has now turned into the perfect replacement for my old MotoActv. Too bad it took this long for a company to satisfy this demand.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...aker-inside-it-but-it-doesnt-do-anything-yet/
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...aker-inside-it-but-it-doesnt-do-anything-yet/
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Personally I wouldn't want to because the battery isn't big enough to support regular calling and last the rest of the day
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Personally I wouldn't want to because the battery isn't big enough to support regular calling and last the rest of the day
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All i care about is the ability to make calls. Like on the iWatch. Sure I am not gonna use it all the time, nobody does actually, it just comes in handy in certain occasions. I understand your perspective.
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All i care about is the ability to make calls. Like on the iWatch. Sure I am not gonna use it all the time, nobody does actually, it just comes in handy in certain occasions. I understand your perspective.
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Calling is is a joke on the apple watch. The battery is a laughable 200mah. Everyone I know that uses one can't even make it though 13hours without it dieing so I can imagine how fast it would die if you made calls. Lets not forget that they display is always off on it too. I can see how you might want to have the feature but for me its not a necessity.
AndroidPolice updated their article with Huaweis response. They essentially did everything but answer the main question although they did hint at adding things that might be useful in the future.
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Calling is is a joke on the apple watch. The battery is a laughable 200mah. Everyone I know that uses one can't even make it though 13hours without it dieing so I can imagine how fast it would die if you made calls. Lets not forget that they display is always off on it too. I can see how you might want to have the feature but for me its not a necessity.
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Same here. At first, I thought calling was cool, but the more I thought about it, why would I want to hear someone's voice out of a small speaker anyways? I can see how it could be useful for driving, but that's what Bluetooth headsets are for, and actually a lot of cars come with Bluetooth
It's interesting that you bring up the calling feature on the Apple Watch. I was wondering if people even use it. If they do, do they even like it? Apple is starting to become gimmicky
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Same here. At first, I thought calling was cool, but the more I thought about it, why would I want to hear someone's voice out of a small speaker anyways? I can see how it could be useful for driving, but that's what Bluetooth headsets are for, and actually a lot of cars come with Bluetooth
It's interesting that you bring up the calling feature on the Apple Watch. I was wondering if people even use it. If they do, do they even like it? Apple is starting to become gimmicky
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I've seen one person use it that I know and its really funny to watch. I can't imagine how much battery it would use and i personally wouldn't bother with it. There's a reason why the LTE/3G smart watches have a battery that's 2x bugger than the standard one
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Calling is is a joke on the apple watch. The battery is a laughable 200mah. Everyone I know that uses one can't even make it though 13hours without it dieing so I can imagine how fast it would die if you made calls. Lets not forget that they display is always off on it too. I can see how you might want to have the feature but for me its not a necessity.
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0.0 said:
Same here. At first, I thought calling was cool, but the more I thought about it, why would I want to hear someone's voice out of a small speaker anyways? I can see how it could be useful for driving, but that's what Bluetooth headsets are for, and actually a lot of cars come with Bluetooth
It's interesting that you bring up the calling feature on the Apple Watch. I was wondering if people even use it. If they do, do they even like it? Apple is starting to become gimmicky
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I had an Apple Watch for almost 2 months. To be honest, the battery life on that device was consistent and, in comparison to virtually all Android Wear devices, very good. I was always at 60% battery at 6pm with my start of the day being 6am...and I use my devices a lot.
As for calling, it's an added tool that you use when appropriate. It's a life saver when your hands are dirty or otherwise occupied. A good, random example is when you're cooking. Dirty hands, important call comes in, you use your nose to answer the call = life saver. I'd like to see AW get that option and the main reason I'm going with the Huawei.
Also the call quality is very good. People were always surprised to find out I'm talking to them on the watch. They couldn't tell the difference.
Those are the positives. I've got plenty of negatives if you want to hear them. lol
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I had an Apple Watch for almost 2 months. To be honest, the battery life on that device was consistent and, in comparison to virtually all Android Wear devices, very good. I was always at 60% battery at 6pm with my start of the day being 6am...and I use my devices a lot.
As for calling, it's an added tool that you use when appropriate. It's a life saver when your hands are dirty or otherwise occupied. A good, random example is when you're cooking. Dirty hands, important call comes in, you use your nose to answer the call = life saver. I'd like to see AW get that option and the main reason I'm going with the Huawei.
Also the call quality is very good. People were always surprised to find out I'm talking to them on the watch. They couldn't tell the difference.
Those are the positives. I've got plenty of negatives if you want to hear them. lol
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The display is always off so I'll take the battery life you stated with a grain of salt. If I use the Huawei with the display off all day I'm sure it will be at 70-80% at he end of the day which I might test for fun this week.
Otherwise I still personally wouldn't use my watch it make calls because I don't use speaker phone ever so why use it on a watch? I understand your reason for wanting it but I would rather have it mimic my phone for a notification sound than take a call. I guess we will see what happens in due time.
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The display is always off so I'll take the battery life you stated with a grain of salt. If I use the Huawei with the display off all day I'm sure it will be at 70-80% at he end of the day which I might test for fun this week.
Otherwise I still personally wouldn't use my watch it make calls because I don't use speaker phone ever so why use it on a watch? I understand your reason for wanting it but I would rather have it mimic my phone for a notification sound than take a call. I guess we will see what happens in due time.
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Agreed, that's what options are for. These devices have to fit in our daily workflow and no two people have the same. To be honest, that's the main reason why I dumped the Apple Watch, it wanted me to follow Apple's workflow and not my own. AW affords me options and speed. Apple Watch slowed me down.
As for the screen off vs battery it would be interesting to compare with the Huawei. My comparisons come from two months of Apple Watch vs my Moto 360 and my current daily driver Sony Smartwatch 3. The Moto had screen off, Sony has ambient on. Apple's Tilt-to-Wake was far superior to any of my Android Wears, so screen off was actually never a UI issue.
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Agreed, that's what options are for. These devices have to fit in our daily workflow and no two people have the same. To be honest, that's the main reason why I dumped the Apple Watch, it wanted me to follow Apple's workflow and not my own. AW affords me options and speed. Apple Watch slowed me down.
As for the screen off vs battery it would be interesting to compare with the Huawei. My comparisons come from two months of Apple Watch vs my Moto 360 and my current daily driver Sony Smartwatch 3. The Moto had screen off, Sony has ambient on. Apple's Tilt-to-Wake was far superior to any of my Android Wears, so screen off was actually never a UI issue.
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I'll try to test it out sometime this week, if I forget send me a messgae. I'm a full-time college student so I tend to forget the little things like testing it out.
I'm obviously an Android person because Apple bothers me but I respect everyone's choice for mobile devices. Its interesting to see your take on it since you have owned both of them.
Now there are some smart watches can be used to make a phone call already.But I don't think it's a real need calling via a watch,considering the smart watch is much smaller than a phone,if it' s designed too big,there is not convenience and comfort anylonger.
While everyone is...uh..."excited"...about the possibilities of the speaker being used for making phone calls, I would be interested in the speaker for other reasons. Remember, that Android Wear has the ability to Mute phone alerts & calls. So what would be nice in the future:
- more discreet, however, audio based alerts
- the ability to start audio alerts if haptic alerts aren't responded to.
- The ability for an audio alarm on the watch (such as when it's on your nightstand at night)
- and...of course...surround sound when I play the Doom port for Android Wear.
OK...I might be kidding about that last one...
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While everyone is...uh..."excited"...about the possibilities of the speaker being used for making phone calls, I would be interested in the speaker for other reasons. Remember, that Android Wear has the ability to Mute phone alerts & calls. So what would be nice in the future:
- more discreet, however, audio based alerts
- the ability to start audio alerts if haptic alerts aren't responded to.
- The ability for an audio alarm on the watch (such as when it's on your nightstand at night)
- and...of course...surround sound when I play the Doom port for Android Wear.
OK...I might be kidding about that last one...
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Couldn't agree more!
It seems odd that people are vocally against the phone call option. The whole point of the watch is to not have to pull out their "phone" lol.
I actually returned my urbane after three days because the lack of phone support, something I didn't even think of when buying a smart watch but became a glaring omission during real life usage (cooking/toddler/car/etc).
Once the Apple watch released it was simply a matter of when, not if. I'm pretty stoked that we won't have to wait for 3rd gen hardware to get it.
If the manufacture can fix the battery issue or it will be hard to make a call for long time.
I use (mini dialer) for phone calls and (wear messenger) for texting on watch. Both are available on google play and work great.
I'm more excited to have the speaker for automated tasker randomness. I currently have a tasker profile where if I say to my watch, "Ok Google, Show me what you can do." My phone's speaker starts talking, "Okay, this is what i can do, I can tell you the time, show your notifications, reply to messages and hangup on your wife bla bla bla.." I would love to have that reply on my watch directly.
I also have another fun one where if someone is telling me a bogus story/lying I click an icon and "Why you always lyin" plays on my phone.
Think of the fun possibilities!
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The display is always off so I'll take the battery life you stated with a grain of salt. If I use the Huawei with the display off all day I'm sure it will be at 70-80% at he end of the day which I might test for fun this week.
Otherwise I still personally wouldn't use my watch it make calls because I don't use speaker phone ever so why use it on a watch? I understand your reason for wanting it but I would rather have it mimic my phone for a notification sound than take a call. I guess we will see what happens in due time.
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I bought my watch Monday lunchtime. Charged it to 100% and used the screen always on function as it's on by default until Tuesday morning. When I went to bed Tuesday night around 10.30pm the watch still had like 14% battery left. That's around 36 hours of playing with it and trying out faces and apps. I was quite surprised.
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I bought my watch Monday lunchtime. Charged it to 100% and used the screen always on function as it's on by default until Tuesday morning. When I went to bed Tuesday night around 10.30pm the watch still had like 14% battery left. That's around 36 hours of playing with it and trying out faces and apps. I was quite surprised.
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Yeah I usually get 1-2 days of usage which is good enough for me. I am running the latest update that got pushed out without any issues. If seems to fix the Bluetooth bug and some other ones which is a good thing. The Huawei watch is underated especially when you look at the Moto 360 gen 2 which sucks.