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Hey guys,
I have been trying to solve this on my own for two days now, but I would like to consult the forum now.
So, I was running Pink Sense 1.8 for about 2 weeks with setCPU profiles and was getting satisfactory battery life. I had re-calibrated the battery info maybe 2 weeks before flashing the Pinky ROM (as described here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=755903).
All of a sudden, without any app installation or change to either the ROM or software/hardware settings I started getting horrible battery life. The battery would drain completely for less than 6 hours with GPS, 3G, and WiFi off.
*Another strange thing (which I don't know if it was related to my battery issue or not) was that when I would plug the charger it would turn the screen on but switch to the default clock app instead of the HTC sense homescreen. If I pressed home or back it would disappear. This would happen randomly and not always.
So, I figured it's time to jump ROMs and I decided on LeeDroid. I wiped cache, etc. and flashed the ROM. Out of the box the battery life was again pretty crappy (the battery was virtually disappearing in front of my eyes). I found some threads where it was suggested to disable market notifications and that slowed the battery drain a bit but it's still crappy.
I just charged it fully, 3G and WiFi off, and was with the screen off for 99% of the time and it still drained 18% battery in 1hour and 25 mins.
So, my question is - what the hell is going on???
Should I wipe battery info? Should I install a non-WiFi n rom? What more can I do?
I would really appreciate help and advice.
p.s. I am running the latest radio too.
wich radio have you the .23 drains the batery with my desire try with the .30_2
the battery life is better.
did you try reboot your phone maybe your optical joystick dead and drain your battery.
load any new apps recently?
cr1960 said:
load any new apps recently?
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As I said, the problem appeared with absolutely no new apps installed and persists after flashing a new ROM.
How do I know if my optical joystick is dead? It still works if that's what you mean (although I don't like using it).
I will try flashing the 30_2 radio, thanks for that suggestion.
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How do I know if my optical joystick is dead? It still works if that's what you mean (although I don't like using it).
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If it works he's not dead
after flashing your radio and if the battery still drain check if the rom you use has his own rules for the cpu freq. if you are in that case don't use cpufreq or something like that because of conflicts.
PS: Sory for my bad english
Sithlord31 said:
If it works he's not dead
after flashing your radio and if the battery still drain check if the rom you use has his own rules for the cpu freq. if you are in that case don't use cpufreq or something like that because of conflicts.
PS: Sory for my bad english
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Thanks, I just flashed the 17_2 radio. It doesn't look like LeeDroid has any requirements for cpu frequencies. I will post an update after an hour.
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Thanks, I just flashed the 17_2 radio. It doesn't look like LeeDroid has any requirements for cpu frequencies. I will post an update after an hour.
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There seems to be no change with 17_2 radio. 15% drop for 1h45m. I will go through a charge/recharge cycle and if nothing has changed I will flash the 30_2 radio.
Some people had the same effect. It happens when you flash your ROM while the phone is connected to power/charging. The battery stats simply get messed up.
An easy indication for this is if you charge the phone fully while powered on, LED is green, as soon as you unplug the charger the battery drops to some 90%.
The fix is easy too. If the phone is fully "charged" while on, disconnect the charger and switch it off. Then plug the charger in again. The LED should turn orange again and the remaining percentage will be charged. Wait until you have a green LED and your problems are hopefully gone.
Look out for the battery calibrating thread here for more info.
Hope that helps...
Mac
mmaacc said:
Some people had the same effect. It happens when you flash your ROM while the phone is connected to power/charging. The battery stats simply get messed up.
An easy indication for this is if you charge the phone fully while powered on, LED is green, as soon as you unplug the charger the battery drops to some 90%.
The fix is easy too. If the phone is fully "charged" while on, disconnect the charger and switch it off. Then plug the charger in again. The LED should turn orange again and the remaining percentage will be charged. Wait until you have a green LED and your problems are hopefully gone.
Look out for the battery calibrating thread here for more info.
Hope that helps...
Mac
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Thanks for the suggestions. I always thought it would be better to flash with the ac adapter plugged.
I have tried the method you described above but it hasn't really solved any of the problems.
The battery drain is now at least manageable - i had 50% drop while sleeping for 6 hours (at least it didn't drain it completely). I am going to flash the 30_2 radio and try again.
slyn4ice said:
Thanks for the suggestions. I always thought it would be better to flash with the ac adapter plugged.
I have tried the method you described above but it hasn't really solved any of the problems.
The battery drain is now at least manageable - i had 50% drop while sleeping for 6 hours (at least it didn't drain it completely). I am going to flash the 30_2 radio and try again.
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If you have access to a spare battery, maybe you can try that too?
Normally when I have unexplained problems with the phone, the last drastic step I would take is to wipe everything, data/app/cache. Do a nandroid backup first so that if that doesn't solve your problem you could always get back all your setups.
You could also try Titanium to help save your setup. But I would be careful with what I restore. The last thing I would want is to get the messed up setting back in.
I have noticed also whenever I flash a new rom, the battery seems to get worse. So I would always do a recalibration. The proper step is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=755903 (and wipe the battery status on the last power up before using).
Lastly, I would use as stock as possible first to see if it is things that I introduce that cause the problem.
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If you have access to a spare battery, maybe you can try that too?
Normally when I have unexplained problems with the phone, the last drastic step I would take is to wipe everything, data/app/cache. Do a nandroid backup first so that if that doesn't solve your problem you could always get back all your setups.
You could also try Titanium to help save your setup. But I would be careful with what I restore. The last thing I would want is to get the messed up setting back in.
I have noticed also whenever I flash a new rom, the battery seems to get worse. So I would always do a recalibration. The proper step is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=755903 (and wipe the battery status on the last power up before using).
Lastly, I would use as stock as possible first to see if it is things that I introduce that cause the problem.
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I think I can definitely confirm the radio is the problem. There is barely any battery drain in airplane mode (1% drain per hour with WiFi on). I am back to 32.43.00.32U_5.09.00.20 but it seems to drain battery faster than before.
Now that I think back, this battery problem started when i switched to the newer 32.47.00.32U_5.10.05.23 radio. No matter what I do now though even after rolling back to older radios it's still a problem. Damn it.
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I think I can definitely confirm the radio is the problem. There is barely any battery drain in airplane mode (1% drain per hour with WiFi on). I am back to 32.43.00.32U_5.09.00.20 but it seems to drain battery faster than before.
Now that I think back, this battery problem started when i switched to the newer 32.47.00.32U_5.10.05.23 radio. No matter what I do now though even after rolling back to older radios it's still a problem. Damn it.
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Don´t know (because i never updated radios above .20 and have no problems with battery)...but...maybe flash a original ruu rom...and root again
maybe this help...with kind regards..Alex
Alex-V said:
Don´t know (because i never updated radios above .20 and have no problems with battery)...but...maybe flash a original ruu rom...and root again
maybe this help...with kind regards..Alex
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that doesn't help, ive tried it already
TieT said:
that doesn't help, ive tried it already
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Ok, I have awesome news! Thanks to user "lenik" on modaco forums I got some extra RIL settings (radio settings) he found for Softbank (my cellphone company here in Japan). Here are the settings:
ro.ril.enable.a52=0
ro.ril.enable.a53=1
ro.ril.fast.dormancy.timeout=3
ro.ril.enable.sbm.feature=1
He said the first two should be found on most ROMs, while the last two are probably carrier specific for SoftBank. Anyways, I just downloaded the latest LeeDroid ROM, modified /system/build.prop file (none of the above settings were in there) to include the above settings and ... got a 5% drop in battery for 10 hours on standby (wifi off, setCPU set to 245Mhz when screen is off). This is unbelievable.
Anyways, here are lenik's blog posts about it:
http://lazydroid.com/2010/06/battery-life-improved/
http://lazydroid.com/2010/06/back-to-1-21-...ry-consumption/
I hope this helps other people out there!
slyn4ice said:
Ok, I have awesome news! Thanks to user "lenik" on modaco forums I got some extra RIL settings (radio settings) he found for Softbank (my cellphone company here in Japan). Here are the settings:
ro.ril.enable.a52=0
ro.ril.enable.a53=1
ro.ril.fast.dormancy.timeout=3
ro.ril.enable.sbm.feature=1
He said the first two should be found on most ROMs, while the last two are probably carrier specific for SoftBank. Anyways, I just downloaded the latest LeeDroid ROM, modified /system/build.prop file (none of the above settings were in there) to include the above settings and ... got a 5% drop in battery for 10 hours on standby (wifi off, setCPU set to 245Mhz when screen is off). This is unbelievable.
Anyways, here are lenik's blog posts about it:
http://lazydroid.com/2010/06/battery-life-improved/
http://lazydroid.com/2010/06/back-to-1-21-...ry-consumption/
I hope this helps other people out there!
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VERY nice results! Do you think that these RIL settings should work on any network/carrier?
It's very odd because today I noticed my battery performance dropping large, BUT before it was always great. I am also on LeeDrOiD 2.1, and while at home, with WiFi + BT on AND connected to my router + handsfree, I lose only about 3-4% an hour.
Today when I left the house and went shopping, I was in the store for 1.5 hrs and I had lost near 15%! I had even turned off Wifi so it wasn't trying to scan APs. Very very strange...
Anyways, I want to maybe try these RIL settings if it will work on any carrier. Does anyone know if I can edit build.prop while in recovery, or do I have to edit it in the ROM .zip then reflash the entire ROM?
Thanks for the post and hunting down a solution slyn4ice, I'm glad that it has helped you out big time!
*** EDIT *** - After looking more into my JuicePlotter graphs, I notice that the battery life gets killed when I am using APN / 3G / HSPA network. I would have thought Wifi would take more power, but that seems not to be so. I DID have "Network Mode" set to "WCDMA only" (in Mobile Network Settings) because I heard it might save battery not having to switch back and forth from EDGE to 3G, but I guess that didn't help...I've since switched it back, but need a lot of charging before I can test again.
Does anyone else notice that when they're on 3G/H the battery drops MUCH quicker than if you were connected to Wifi instead? This is just my last hurdle towards a PERFECT ROM!
Thanks in advance all!
3G uses waaay more power than WiFi. After all, the data usually travels long distances and needs to be amplified. This effect is pronounced especially if in the limit zones of 2G/3G coverage and you have 3G preferred, the phone boosts the power to maximum to maintain 3G.
Gsm Auto (PRL) prefers 2G if 3G coverage is too low. WCDMA Preferred tries to maintain 3G connection even if it means sacrificing battery life.
If you are constantly in good coverage zones, no problem, but to the people living on the edges of proper 3G coverage it meas a big hit to battery life, especially if the mobile data is used. This partly explains why some get superb battery life and others far worse.
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3G uses waaay more power than WiFi. After all, the data usually travels long distances and needs to be amplified. This effect is pronounced especially if in the limit zones of 2G/3G coverage and you have 3G preferred, the phone boosts the power to maximum to maintain 3G.
Gsm Auto (PRL) prefers 2G if 3G coverage is too low. WCDMA Preferred tries to maintain 3G connection even if it means sacrificing battery life.
If you are constantly in good coverage zones, no problem, but to the people living on the edges of proper 3G coverage it meas a big hit to battery life, especially if the mobile data is used. This partly explains why some get superb battery life and others far worse.
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Amazing explanation and reaffirmation of my thoughts Jgruar (JuicePlotter confirms it). I guess from my old WinMo days, I always remember Wifi being the power hog. I actually did change it back to GSM/Auto since that was the only change I made lately, but I thought I'd chime in while my device was charging back up, hoping for a reply just like that!
Thanks a bunch!
scar45 said:
VERY nice results! Do you think that these RIL settings should work on any network/carrier?
It's very odd because today I noticed my battery performance dropping large, BUT before it was always great. I am also on LeeDrOiD 2.1, and while at home, with WiFi + BT on AND connected to my router + handsfree, I lose only about 3-4% an hour.
Today when I left the house and went shopping, I was in the store for 1.5 hrs and I had lost near 15%! I had even turned off Wifi so it wasn't trying to scan APs. Very very strange...
Anyways, I want to maybe try these RIL settings if it will work on any carrier. Does anyone know if I can edit build.prop while in recovery, or do I have to edit it in the ROM .zip then reflash the entire ROM?
Thanks for the post and hunting down a solution slyn4ice, I'm glad that it has helped you out big time!
*** EDIT *** - After looking more into my JuicePlotter graphs, I notice that the battery life gets killed when I am using APN / 3G / HSPA network. I would have thought Wifi would take more power, but that seems not to be so. I DID have "Network Mode" set to "WCDMA only" (in Mobile Network Settings) because I heard it might save battery not having to switch back and forth from EDGE to 3G, but I guess that didn't help...I've since switched it back, but need a lot of charging before I can test again.
Does anyone else notice that when they're on 3G/H the battery drops MUCH quicker than if you were connected to Wifi instead? This is just my last hurdle towards a PERFECT ROM!
Thanks in advance all!
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From what I understand you need to update RIL settings in the ROM and then flash the modified ROM. I just edited the /system/build.prop file in the Leedriod zip file and saved (didn't resign or anything). Flashed the ROM through ROM Manager recovery (I also tried flashing it through the normal recovery but it failed on the "verifying image" stage - I guess because I didn't resign the archive).
As far as the options themselves - only the last two should be carrier specific. I haven't researched anything about them, so I have absolutely no idea what they actually do. "lenik" just copied them from an official Softbank ROM.
God, i just checked JuicePlotter and i dropped 1% for 1h10m (everything off except the radio + setCPU to ~400Mhz when screen off). This is just crazy ... awesome ))))
Is the setting rom specific, or will it work om opendesire?
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
slyn4ice said:
Ok, I have awesome news! Thanks to user "lenik" on modaco forums I got some extra RIL settings (radio settings) he found for Softbank (my cellphone company here in Japan). Here are the settings:
ro.ril.enable.a52=0
ro.ril.enable.a53=1
ro.ril.fast.dormancy.timeout=3
ro.ril.enable.sbm.feature=1
He said the first two should be found on most ROMs, while the last two are probably carrier specific for SoftBank. Anyways, I just downloaded the latest LeeDroid ROM, modified /system/build.prop file (none of the above settings were in there) to include the above settings
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LeeDroid ROM (LeeDrOiD_V2.1_A2SD+_.zip) build.prop includes:
ro.ril.enable.a52=0
ro.ril.enable.a53=1
but no:
ro.ril.fast.dormancy.timeout=3
ro.ril.enable.sbm.feature=1
Just checked.
As said in title, I have a problem after updating to Gingerbread. In battery use it says that Dialer is using about 20% of battery. Does anyone else have this problem and are there any solutions for it?
I have this problem too, i opened another thread, btw i made a factory reset but the problem is still present.
I think that there aren't solution now, because htc in this new 2.3.3 rom change the radio,
i forced mine to only wcdma mode and disabled always-on mobile data.also i disabled best wi-fi performance when wifi is enabled.also when mobile data is switched on, i turn off wifi and vice versa. far now it is much better. if anyone do like me, pls tell me if is any improvement for you.
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i forced mine to only wcdma mode and disabled always-on mobile data.also i disabled best wi-fi performance when wifi is enabled.also when mobile data is switched on, i turn off wifi and vice versa. far now it is much better. if anyone do like me, pls tell me if is there any improvement
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Perhaps leaving wcda always active will consume more than ever to leave gsm mode?
However disabling always-on mobile data in 2g/3g settings menu,your apps and widgets are updated automatically?
when i leave only wcdma, i think will consume less power because it didnt try always and always to switch to better signal (from 2g to 3g and vice versa).i have only weather auto update on and i didnt noticed any change .
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when i leave only wcdma, i think will consume less power because it didnt try always and always to switch to better signal (from 2g to 3g and vice versa).i have only weather auto update on and i didnt noticed any change .
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Now i have only GSM mode, btw i can try to disable always on mobile data keep active in the 2g/3g menu and hope that this radio will consume less power.
I thought maybe the problem could be caused by a bug introduced with the new management processes that consume the battery, also because there is the graphic that was not there.
Let me explain:
The details of the processes that consume battery is correct because if I go on "DIALRE" the voice tells me that the CPU has been used only 6 minutes in 20 hours, so little, but shows the % is too high.
Same thing with regard to the voice "Telephone inactive", says it's been idle for less than 20 minutes that I used. but the % is too low.
So it could be a bug that we see that the phone uses too much and we blame the new radio?
Hi everyone
Dialer uses much battery, because it's using the sensors all the time (even with screen off/standby).
You can check that for example in "Battery History for GB" app (you'll find it on xda...)
I wrote some posts about this issue on the ARHD thread in DHD Development (just search for "Dialer" on the thread).
So far no one has a solution... so I guess it's a bug HTC build in... :/
If any one has a solution or a fix please post it
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So it could be a bug that we see that the phone uses too much and we blame the new radio?
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I tried 3 different radios... I had that problem with each one of them.
scungilli said:
Hi everyone
Dialer uses much battery, because it's using the sensors all the time (even with screen off/standby).
You can check that for example in "Battery History for GB" app (you'll find it on xda...)
I wrote some posts about this issue on the ARHD thread in DHD Development (just search for "Dialer" on the thread).
So far no one has a solution... so I guess it's a bug HTC build in... :/
If any one has a solution or a fix please post it
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I tried 3 different radios... I had that problem with each one of them.
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So, the problem is the official 2.3.3 not the new radio?
Btw, also with dialer voice at 30% of consume, i have 28% of battery available now and the last unplugged was 1g and 15 hours ago, with medium use,.
Whit the 2.2.1 with the same use, my best was 1g and 6h.
jackalac said:
So, the problem is the official 2.3.3 not the new radio?
Btw, also with dialer voice at 30% of consume, i have 28% of battery available now and the last unplugged was 1g and 15 hours ago, with medium use,.
Whit the 2.2.1 with the same use, my best was 1g and 6h.
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Seems like it's a problem with the official release.
If you google the issue you'll find people with other phones solving the issue by setting the "Turn to mute" feature to off...
Problem with this: We don't have that setting :/
For me Dialer doubles the standby battery use... so battery life is good, but could be much better.
scungilli said:
Seems like it's a problem with the official release.
If you google the issue you'll find people with other phones solving the issue by setting the "Turn to mute" feature to off...
Problem with this: We don't have that setting :/
For me Dialer doubles the standby battery use... so battery life is good, but could be much better.
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So we can not do anything to solve this problem? We have to wait a patch from google? HTC will not do it then maybe never or maybe the 2.3.4
Maybe in the other Roms, cooker have solved this problem..
can we turn off the proximity sensor?
jackalac said:
So we can not do anything to solve this problem? We have to wait a patch from google? HTC will not do it then maybe never or maybe the 2.3.4
Maybe in the other Roms, cooker have solved this problem..
can we turn off the proximity sensor?
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I think the problem is within the htc dialer app, so htc has to fix it...
Does anyone know if the "turn to mute" option was there in the official froyo roms?
Maybe it's possible to edit the setting manually then and switch off the feature in the settings file by copying the relevant settings string from the old config...
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Maybe it's possible to use the old dialer app from froyo in GB...
Somebody has to try ^^
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Turning off the proximity sensor completely would resolve in dropping calls with your ear, because display doesn't turn off when you move your phone to your ear ^^
Update:
Installing HTCDialer.apk from ARHD 3.7 on 5.1.4 does not work...
Same issue for me : the dialer is supposed to be using 10 to 20% of battery, eventhough it only used the CPU for less than one minute...
I'm quite sure this wasn't the case on Froyo...
I am investigating this problem, the point is that I have heard other people with the desire hd on an Italian forum, and apparently almost no one experience this problem.
I'm thinking that maybe the problem is due to some app, widget, or maybe some setting of the carrier.
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I am investigating this problem, the point is that I have heard other people with the desire hd on an Italian forum, and apparently almost no one experience this problem.
I'm thinking that maybe the problem is due to some app, widget, or maybe some setting of the carrier.
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I made a fullwipe twice and reflashed the rom, I restored nothing, really nothing - and the issue was there.
So it must have something to do with provider or maybe the hardware (some components from another manufacturer than most phones?) I don't now. Maybe just an ultra rare random bug in the original firmware, that happens when your IMEI starts with what not (just joking).
I can also confirm that the bug was not in froyo but in many gingerbread Roms on different phones. So maybe a general bug in gingerbread. If only someone could figure out a way to disable the "turn to mute" feature.
After what I read that should solve our problem...
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scungilli said:
I made a fullwipe twice and reflashed the rom, I restored nothing, really nothing - and the issue was there.
So it must have something to do with provider or maybe the hardware (some components from another manufacturer than most phones?) I don't now. Maybe just an ultra rare random bug in the original firmware, that happens when your IMEI starts with what not (just joking). No clue really :/
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
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Or maybe just those who are not experiencing the issue is why does not realize it because they use the phone so heavy, and more % are given by other processes, so that they see "dialer" is a 6% 7% max.
jackalac said:
Or maybe just those who are not experiencing the issue is why does not realize it because they use the phone so heavy, and more % are given by other processes, so that they see "dialer" is a 6% 7% max.
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Yeah could be... We need to turn this feature off, my best guess at the moment...
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Mine is around 11% at the end of the day, but I only made a 1mn call...
And it was always nearly 0% in Froyo...
Is it increasing with phone call lengh?
I'm also wondering if this is just a new way to compute the battery usage : maybe Froyo wasn't able to "see" this usage, so the percentage was allocated to other items, but in this case the battery lengh would be the same. Just the ratio per item would be different. What do you think?
My screen battery usage was around 80% before upgrading, now it is only 58%, Dialer increased, system increased, but I'm under the feeling that my battery still last the same time...
samsenteur said:
Mine is around 11% at the end of the day, but I only made a 1mn call...
And it was always nearly 0% in Froyo...
Is it increasing with phone call lengh?
I'm also wondering if this is just a new way to compute the battery usage : maybe Froyo wasn't able to "see" this usage, so the percentage was allocated to other items, but in this case the battery lengh would be the same. Just the ratio per item would be different. What do you think?
My screen battery usage was around 80% before upgrading, now it is only 58%, Dialer increased, system increased, but I'm under the feeling that my battery still last the same time...
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Hi,
as far as I noticed it's not increasing with call lenght.
It actually starts to drain battery, when you make a one second call, then it uses the sensors the whole time.
If you reboot your phone and don't start the dialer or take a call, then it will not drain your battery.
That leads to my conclusion, that it is a bug in the dialer, because it should'nt use the sensors when my phone is in standby overnight.
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My battery life seems to have decreased comparing to froyo.
scungilli said:
Hi,
as far as I noticed it's not increasing with call lenght.
It actually starts to drain battery, when you make a one second call, then it uses the sensors the whole time.
If you reboot your phone and don't start the dialer or take a call, then it will not drain your battery.
That leads to my conclusion, that it is a bug in the dialer, because it should'nt use the sensors when my phone is in standby overnight.
EDIT:
My battery life seems to have decreased comparing to froyo.
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I have the voice "dialer" with high % of consume also when removed from charge and I leave the dhd on the desk, inactive in standby, and I do not make any phone call.
That's why I say that I think the problem is not the proximity sensor problem, but maybe other.
However to me the battery lasts much longer but even with this problem, I can do at least 10 hours in more than Froyo with the same usage.
@ samsenteur: I asked on another Italian forum, and many users do not have this problem, perhaps because the % of telephone as it changes when the high screen and system are high, so with a heavy phone during the day.
Edit : scungilli Many thanks for your help and willingness to resolve that you giving ...
Hi guys,
I am hoping someone may notice what's going on with my device... I am at a loss. Attaching all screenshots and dump file from BetterBatteryStats (may need to open in Wordpad for the spacing work).
To summarize, my battery drain is very inconsistent. Some days it lasts a long time, 2-3 hrs of screen time, can stay in standby for over 2 days. And then some days it drains very quickly, like right now - it drops by 3% every time I basically turn on the screen to check e-mail/messages. I think we can all agree that 4 hrs of standby and 15 mins of screen usage should not use 50% of the battery.
I have tried two different units (swapped thinking my battery was faulty), and the issue persists - so I think it has to be something related to my software setup. I am running the AT&T LTE stock phone, 1.85 firmware. I have tried doing the full factory reset (clearing all settings/apps/storage), and cycling the battery.
Some folks have mentioned that my drain seems to begin when I hit an area with low/no signal (I take the subway to work in the morning), and then persists - as if something is trying to sync/connect somewhere, but can't... so it keeps looping and draining the battery.
My autosync is only on for Gmail, Google calendar (not contacts), and Weather (every 2 hrs only). Phone is not overly hot, battery is at 86 degrees right now. My brightness is at 40%.
If someone has any ideas, please share - I am at a loss, I don't know what to do... but battery life has got to be better than this, at least in terms of consistency.
Thanks so much.
Hello, i've take a look to your screenshots and it looks like its clearly not an app that drains your battery.
You talked about weather. How many towns have you got in the main clock screen ?
I read here that if you have too many towns, it can drain the battery ...
Just remove all the towns and setup your home town only in clocks main screen's parameters.
And i recently modified something on my phone, in some hidden menu.
( You should call *#*#INFO#*#* and the menu appears ... ).
It was on "WDCMA preferred" ( 3G+ forced even low !!! ) and i set it to "GSM Auto PRL".
I didn't noticed lots of changes for battery usage, but it looks like i have "weirdly" more often H connection instead of 3G or 2G.
It should be the opposite, and i should be more often on 3G/2G ... ...
Maybe its just your phone trying to connect to a WDCMA network that is very poor and that drains battery.
Setting the "GSM Auto PRL" appear to avoid this kind of "forced" connection to WDCMA network and minimize battery consumption.
Here is more information on that point i found here on XDA : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=688492
Just try another "preferred mode" and see what happens ...
Good luck
Thanks DanRZ. I only have 1 town for weather (New York), and I am on the LTE network - so not sure if those various modes are applicable?
if you are on lte than you are in the wrong forum... the one x cant connect to lte
Ah man, didn't realize there was a separate one. Thank you!!
Btw something is keeping your device awake , it doesnt go to deep sleep---- Sorry i have made a mistake i saw like 7 hours awake in badass , it was minutes . Also what i have noticed is that you have 18 min without signal ,maybe that is draining battery - constantly switching data connection
I was having similar battery problems. It didn't seem like there was an app draining my battery...but after I did a factory reset and installed none of the same apps (except for betterbattery stats) my phone no longer had the same battery problems as before. I'm going to slowly install the old apps one at a time until I figure out which one was the problem.
My S4 mini SGH-i257M was malfunctioning so i sent it in for repair. The local Rogers store sent it to FutureTel in Markham [Toronto] Ontario Canada. This is what they did, according to the Completion Report that came back with the phone ...
;RF Calibration performed to enhance RX/TX performance and network connectivity. Passed RF compliance test to meet manufacturer specifications. Adjusted battery level to optimize power usage.
It has been two weeks now and not only has it not malfunctioned, but the battery life is significantly improved - from 2 or 3 days of light use [usually just 2] to 5 days of light use.
What did they actually do? Does the recalibration affect hardware or software? Did they perhaps re-clock the CPU down to a slower speed? Any way to check this? What do they mean by adjusted battery level?
The phone is running KitKat 4.4.2, not rooted.
Thank you,
Mick
Here are three replies from other forums to this same question. Anyone here want to include an opinion? It would be most appreciated ...
The first part (RF calibration) means they adjusted the radio to improve reception and transmission(rx/tx), so your call/network/wifi reception will be better; the battery level adjustment implies they altered the voltage to improve battery life. In both cases it's more likely they replaced faulty parts with fully functioning ones. Good to see you finally got your issue solved Mick
It seems like what they did is install the OS from factory state and give u a new battery and maybe re clocked the CPU. Unfortunately they won't give you the proper information on what they did nor will u able to find it. There are some apps which tell u what system and software it uses but that's about it
All that I can tell you is RF stands for Radio Frequency. Apparently your cellular radio was tuned a bit off from whatever frequency(ies) your carrier uses. I wonder how they calibrate this.
Their statement "Adjusted battery level to optimize power usage" makes no sense to me. It's almost an oxymoron! But then, when signal level or reception of signal is poor, firmware detects this and gives the hardware an extra kick of battery juice. So maybe that's what they adjusted?
I'm really just guessing about RF calibration and battery adjustment. Hopefully somebody more knowledgeable will shed better light, especially regarding your questions about processor speed
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Here are three replies from other forums to this same question. Anyone here want to include an opinion? It would be most appreciated ...
The first part (RF calibration) means they adjusted the radio to improve reception and transmission(rx/tx), so your call/network/wifi reception will be better; the battery level adjustment implies they altered the voltage to improve battery life. In both cases it's more likely they replaced faulty parts with fully functioning ones. Good to see you finally got your issue solved Mick
It seems like what they did is install the OS from factory state and give u a new battery and maybe re clocked the CPU. Unfortunately they won't give you the proper information on what they did nor will u able to find it. There are some apps which tell u what system and software it uses but that's about it
All that I can tell you is RF stands for Radio Frequency. Apparently your cellular radio was tuned a bit off from whatever frequency(ies) your carrier uses. I wonder how they calibrate this.
Their statement "Adjusted battery level to optimize power usage" makes no sense to me. It's almost an oxymoron! But then, when signal level or reception of signal is poor, firmware detects this and gives the hardware an extra kick of battery juice. So maybe that's what they adjusted?
I'm really just guessing about RF calibration and battery adjustment. Hopefully somebody more knowledgeable will shed better light, especially regarding your questions about processor speed
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I also would like to know what they did with 'improving radio frequency'. Got the same problem as you, and would like to check if it's possible to manually fix the radio/frequency-problem, cause the guys from the repairshop didn't fix anything for me..
Otherwise: is there an app that notifies me when network connection is lost ?
I found this one : (updated url) https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cnigrini.networkmonitor that works well..i now see immediately when my phone loses network connection.
However, now i still have to manually reset it by turning on/off airplane mode. Is there a way / app that does these steps automatically ?
So notifies when network dorps, and then refreshes it..
That would be one way to solve the problem i think..
Your link is to an earthquake detection app ???
I'll post more info later or tomorrow.
I updated the url. It's this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cnigrini.networkmonitor
It notifies when network is lost. However it doesn't refresh the network unfortunately.
Well, it gets worse. The phone messed up today same as before. A bit more than two weeks after the "repair". I was at home in one of the strongest signal areas. Would not receive or make calls or use mobile data. So back to the Rogers store. By the time i got there it had started working again so i could not demonstrate the problem. Also used a lot of battery power today, about 40% with light usage compared to 15% or less per day for the past two weeks.
What the counter guy at the Rogers store said is that there is nothing wrong with the phone, that all cell phones do this, and that i should adjust my expectations.
Here's another ConnectionChecker app. This one attempts to reconnect ...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.jeremychase.ConnectionChecker
Anyone have seen another app for this that they like?
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Well, it gets worse. The phone messed up today same as before. A bit more than two weeks after the "repair". I was at home in one of the strongest signal areas. Would not receive or make calls or use mobile data. So back to the Rogers store. By the time i got there it had started working again so i could not demonstrate the problem. Also used a lot of battery power today, about 40% with light usage compared to 15% or less per day for the past two weeks.
What the counter guy at the Rogers store said is that there is nothing wrong with the phone, that all cell phones do this, and that i should adjust my expectations.
Here's another ConnectionChecker app. This one attempts to reconnect ...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.jeremychase.ConnectionChecker
Anyone have seen another app for this that they like?
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Hey Mdawdy, thanks for posting that one, when reading the descripting it seems like this one is doing both things: checking when connection is down, and when it is, puts the phone on/off airplane mode so that it reconnects again.
I will be testing this one for this time now..
It's probably true that all cell phones lose connection some times, for example when being in a place where connection is very low, but the problem with this Galaxy s4 mini is that it doesn't reconnect again when in an area where signal should be good...
Probably some software thing i think..
I'm still at 4.2.2 by the way.
Edit: found out that with a non-rooted device with android 4.2 or above, it's not possible for an app to toggle airplane mode on/off. So there are probably no (non-root) apps existing that will do this .
However a forum member made a tool that does this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/app-jelly-bean-4-x-airplane-mode-helper-t2385625
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I updated the url. It's this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cnigrini.networkmonitor
It notifies when network is lost. However it doesn't refresh the network unfortunately.
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I installed and tried this one. Appeared to be working altho i did not have a network drop. Then i turned on, used, then turned off Wi-Fi. From then on the App continually reported that the network was lost even when it was good. Restarting the phone did not fix it. So i uninstalled the app.
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I installed and tried this one. Appeared to be working altho i did not have a network drop. Then i turned on, used, then turned off Wi-Fi. From then on the App continually reported that the network was lost even when it was good. Restarting the phone did not fix it. So i uninstalled the app.
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For me it's also not working properly, and i bought the full version (
It's not notifing me when connection/wifi drops.. but I only see it when opening the app.
Also, like i said, i don't think there's an app that toggle's airplane mode on/off when gsm-connection is lost, because it's not possible with a non-rooted android phone that runs android 4.2 or above..
Very disapointing..
Hey guys,
I buyed my g4 ~2 months ago, and for some days the battery drain is sometimes huge (30%/hour) and sometimes I'm nearly losing 0%/hour... The android core apps are using 31%, the screen 23% and the play services 17%... I'm using the standard rom, didn't change anything, didn't root my phone... And I don't really like to factory reset my phone. Sync is off, only Wi-Fi with 3/4 bars and didn't use it, but lost 30% in one hour... Would be nice, if someone could help me...
Seriously? No one has an idea? I'm kind of disappointed
Do you live in an area where the signal for calls and texts are bad because that can cause battery drain...
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Seriously? No one has an idea? I'm kind of disappointed
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Also even though you are not rooted you can still install greenify to put some apps to sleep , and antivirus , facebook and facebook messenger can also drain your battery quick also have you sideloaded an app or game because sometimes an app from somewhere other than the playstore can cause problems..
Try wiping the cache in recovery. This will retain your data.
I have the same issue, but it only started after I rooted my G4 (H811). Today it went from 50 to 0 in 3 hours, while I was asleep...
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Can you check to see what is consuming so much energy?
Maybe there is some program, or memory leak, or something that you can identify as the culprit.
This is assuming it's something running on the phone's CPU sucking all the power. A much easier thing would be if your problem is low signal strength, because that is a tangible thing and easy to see, where you don't have to try to track down the mystery app.
I would recommend to wipe the phone completely. I had the same issue and it was an app that caused horrible batterydrain. If it doesn't help and the signal in your region isn't that bad it might be a hardware issue and you should ask your retailer.
try to use your phone in flight mode,
if your battery still drain, maybe its because the battery (hardware) or the wrong calculation of precentage of the battery.
if its not draining, its might be caused by your bad signal, as i had nowdays,
I had the exact same issue. I did a factory reset and it helped a bit (it didn't get AS hot as it did before). However, I just upgraded to 13B and the issues are completely gone. Although 13B seems to be running better altogether, I think the MAIN reason why mine was getting hot is because I had LOCATION set to "High Accuracy (GPS and networks)". I live in an area where my connection constantly changes from LTE to 3G, even down to 1X. My phone was trying to find my location all the time and it went nuts whenever it changed to 3G or 1X. Right now, it's set to "Battery Saving (Networks only)" and I've had NO heating issues. My battery is lasting twice as long, or so it seems.
Hope that helps.
you have bad apps misbehaving or else settings wrong, remember, temperature is tied to battery drain, solve the temperature issue and you will solve the battery drain, my H815 gets crazy long battery life, I cannot run it down in an entire day! - right now my CPU temp is 85 °F (29 °C) with a few things running, such as music
I sometimes spontaneously get an app that will drain my battery faster than I can blink... I force close it when I identify it and all is normal into some other app decides to behave the same.
First was a Kohl's app then was ESPN
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