New Fire TV What To Do First????? - Fire TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi ive just ordered a Fire TV here in the uk. I will be using mainly for XBMC
Is there any thing i should do install anything, upgrade, downgrade or root before i go online with it
Thxs

bornnslippy said:
Hi ive just ordered a Fire TV here in the uk. I will be using mainly for XBMC
Is there any thing i should do install anything, upgrade, downgrade or root before i go online with it
Thxs
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Odds are pretty much zero that you will be able to root. Without root, you can't downgrade. All you can do is sideload. You can still use this guide to determine if you can root: http://www.aftvnews.com/how-to-dete...ersion-and-rootability-on-first-setup-screen/
If you can't root, you can block updates to keep yourself on the oldest version possible to improve your chances of being compatible with a future root method. Update blocking guide here: http://www.aftvnews.com/how-to-setup-a-new-fire-tv-without-blocking-root/

what to do first? imo Return it or cancel your order then get one imported from the US (pre-rooted)
Works out roughly same price.
Unless of course you don't need root, but there is so much potential with this thing rooted.

AFTVnews.com said:
Odds are pretty much zero that you will be able to root. Without root, you can't downgrade. All you can do is sideload. You can still use this guide to determine if you can root: http://www.aftvnews.com/how-to-dete...ersion-and-rootability-on-first-setup-screen/
If you can't root, you can block updates to keep yourself on the oldest version possible to improve your chances of being compatible with a future root method. Update blocking guide here: http://www.aftvnews.com/how-to-setup-a-new-fire-tv-without-blocking-root/
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I just got mine in the mail today. It upgraded itself to the latest and "greatest" software. Shouldn't I be able to downgrade though?
The only real reason I want to root is expandable storage... and possibly being able to launch XBMC immediately.

Deusdies said:
I just got mine in the mail today. It upgraded itself to the latest and "greatest" software. Shouldn't I be able to downgrade though?
The only real reason I want to root is expandable storage... and possibly being able to launch XBMC immediately.
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You will need root for the storage side. But I think the XBMC launching immediately side you can just use the SPMC flavor of Kodi which comes with a launcher. And I think there are some other options for that too...
Sections 4 & 5 will be your best source... http://kodi.wiki/view/Amazon_Fire_TV#Bypassing_Amazon_Home

Thanks, but I got the XBMC/Kodi part installed. My question was about being able to downgrade the new and newly-udpated device.

Deusdies said:
Thanks, but I got the XBMC/Kodi part installed. My question was about being able to downgrade the new and newly-udpated device.
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Sorry I think I got two posts mixed up.. Need this info... Where did you buy the FTV from & did you try to block the IP's before it updated ??
Either way... US/UK/GER. If your FTV has upgraded to latest & greatest FW. You are all in the same boat. There is no downgrade or any other method to root at this time. But you should still be able to launch XBCM at the start of your FTV.

So here are my 2 cents as a "casual" user of the Fire TV. By casual I mean non-rooted.
I use my Fire TV every day. I use it to watch Netflix and I use it to watch streams on Twitch.TV via SPMC App.
If I ever want to watch a movie that I downloaded, I watch it via SMB. I have a folder on my computer where I put the movie files and stream it from there.
I don't feel like I'm missing much that I don't have root...

androidyeah said:
So here are my 2 cents as a "casual" user of the Fire TV. By casual I mean non-rooted.
I use my Fire TV every day. I use it to watch Netflix and I use it to watch streams on Twitch.TV via SPMC App.
If I ever want to watch a movie that I downloaded, I watch it via SMB. I have a folder on my computer where I put the movie files and stream it from there.
I don't feel like I'm missing much that I don't have root...
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Same here. I don't really miss anything. Well booting directly into Kodi would be nice but I can live with starting it manually from FiredTV.

Hi,
One Question...
I have a new AFT with the Software Version: 51.1.4.0 user 514006420
is there any way to Root or Downgrade this Version?
I need the USB Funktion for Some Video or Musik Files... it sucks bad. -.-
And i miss Youtube too! I have installed latest YT APK by Sideload... it needs Google Play Services to (Have it Installed too) but it dont work... damn...
Sorry for the lil bad English...
Thanks for Help.
Greetings from Germany

Biosman87 said:
Hi,
One Question...
I have a new AFT with the Software Version: 51.1.4.0 user 514006420
is there any way to Root or Downgrade this Version?
I need the USB Funktion for Some Video or Musik Files... it sucks bad. -.-
And i miss Youtube too! I have installed latest YT APK by Sideload... it needs Google Play Services to (Have it Installed too) but it dont work... damn...
Sorry for the lil bad English...
Thanks for Help.
Greetings from Germany
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There is no way to downgrade or root that version of firmware currently, you could try network sharing your music and videos from a PC via SMB to xbmc, that works perfect.

Y314K said:
Sorry I think I got two posts mixed up.. Need this info... Where did you buy the FTV from & did you try to block the IP's before it updated ??
Either way... US/UK/GER. If your FTV has upgraded to latest & greatest FW. You are all in the same boat. There is no downgrade or any other method to root at this time. But you should still be able to launch XBCM at the start of your FTV.
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Biosman87 said:
Hi,
One Question...
I have a new AFT with the Software Version: 51.1.4.0 user 514006420
is there any way to Root or Downgrade this Version?
I need the USB Funktion for Some Video or Musik Files... it sucks bad. -.-
And i miss Youtube too! I have installed latest YT APK by Sideload... it needs Google Play Services to (Have it Installed too) but it dont work... damn...
Sorry for the lil bad English...
Thanks for Help.
Greetings from Germany
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51.1.4.0 user 514006420 = latest & greatest FW.

There is a 1080P HD YouTube MOD on xda which works very well on Fire TV especially when you have a keyboard like Logitech K400r.
No rooting required for either one.

OK thanks.
Now... i have block the Amazon Update service on my Router.
BTW: Youtube MOD on XDA?
Can i use the YT Version with Android app from my smartphone too share the Video on AFTV? Keyboard on my bedroom is lil bit Fail i think.

I doubt the extra features work properly on Fire TV,but the 1080P part worked fine since the last time I had it before rooting.
You may very likely have subscription and login issues.
If you just use the app to view videos,it will work out just fine.

Thanks for the replies guys
How much do u think i could get one imported from the us to the uk for?
Thxs

Link to the 1080p YT mod,?

Biosman87 said:
OK thanks.
Now... i have block the Amazon Update service on my Router.
BTW: Youtube MOD on XDA?
Can i use the YT Version with Android app from my smartphone too share the Video on AFTV? Keyboard on my bedroom is lil bit Fail i think.
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I'm using this youtube app, it's pretty good.
http://www.amazon.de/youtube-com-Yo...e=UTF8&qid=1415794343&sr=8-2&keywords=youtube
I'd say that this keyboard works pretty well as a "bedroom keyboard". Its small, cheap and easy to use. It also has a trackpad.
http://www.amazon.de/Logitech-Wireless-Tastatur-deutsches-Tastaturlayout/dp/B005G16098/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1415794424&sr=8-2&keywords=bluetooth+tastatur
People in reviews state that this keyboard is working really well with the Fire TV.

*sigh*
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1529715
I found it by searching "youtube mod" in the main forum page for all forums.

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[Q] Kindle Fire Simple Questions About Market and Rooting

Hi there everyone from Kindle Fire XDA Forum
I've been here for a while trying to figure out how exactly the Kindle Fire amazon's interface works, but i still have some questions, so, here they are.
1 - Do i need root in order to install google play ?
2 - Once i get to google play, everything will be just like any other android tablet / phone ? I mean, will i be able to install all the apps i already bought and etc ?
3 - Whats the easiest way to root my kindle fire ?
4 - I am planing to pay for Amazon Prime for a year or so, so flashing CM9 would not be an option. But, in case i change my mind, is it a Good choice for using at the Kindle Fire ? I mean, losing access to the whole Amazon's ecosystem would be a great downside, right ?
5 - Can i use the Built-in Amazon App Store if i am not from US ? I am from Brasil, and i have an international credit card (but it is not FROM US).
6 - What i should NOT do in terms of Flashing, trying roms and etc ?
Thank in advance
marcelloLins said:
Hi there everyone from Kindle Fire XDA Forum
I've been here for a while trying to figure out how exactly the Kindle Fire amazon's interface works, but i still have some questions, so, here they are.
1 - Do i need root in order to install google play ?
2 - Once i get to google play, everything will be just like any other android tablet / phone ? I mean, will i be able to install all the apps i already bought and etc ?
3 - Whats the easiest way to root my kindle fire ?
4 - I am planing to pay for Amazon Prime for a year or so, so flashing CM9 would not be an option. But, in case i change my mind, is it a Good choice for using at the Kindle Fire ? I mean, losing access to the whole Amazon's ecosystem would be a great downside, right ?
5 - Can i use the Built-in Amazon App Store if i am not from US ? I am from Brasil, and i have an international credit card (but it is not FROM US).
6 - What i should NOT do in terms of Flashing, trying roms and etc ?
Thank in advance
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1. Yes, you need root.
2. Yes, you will have full acess to the market just like a regular android phone.
3. Use the Kindle fire utility. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?=1399889
4. Prime really isn't worth it. And there are workarounds as to using Amazon video on cm9. I am running cm9 right now and have full access to amazon's services (appstore, video, etc.)
5. Yes, you will be able to access the appstore.
6. Do not try and do things on your own. Always ask questions about the rom, even if you think you know what your doing. Always make backups.
Ihope I answered your questions.
Sent from my Kindle Fire using xda premium
You sure did !
Just to make it better, the link of number 3 is broken, and, i've read that i won't be able to use the amazon app store from brasil, as i dont have a billing adress and credit card from us...
Thanks man !
Daevionne said:
1. Yes, you need root.
2. Yes, you will have full acess to the market just like a regular android phone.
3. Use the Kindle fire utility. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?=1399889
4. Prime really isn't worth it. And there are workarounds as to using Amazon video on cm9. I am running cm9 right now and have full access to amazon's services (appstore, video, etc.)
5. Yes, you will be able to access the appstore.
6. Do not try and do things on your own. Always ask questions about the rom, even if you think you know what your doing. Always make backups.
Ihope I answered your questions.
Sent from my Kindle Fire using xda premium
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What workarounds are you using to use amazon video?
I got prime for shipping benefits, but might as well use the prime video if i can.
i found the .apk and am using voodoo temp unroot... still having issues cant figure out what to use to login.
dougdashwitz said:
What workarounds are you using to use amazon video?
I got prime for shipping benefits, but might as well use the prime video if i can.
i found the .apk and am using voodoo temp unroot... still having issues cant figure out what to use to login.
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I am using the prime streaming video service.
For doing so, i downloaded the Vodoo app to unroot and another app for allowing me to see videos worldwide, since i am from brasil, and they do not support my country.
marcelloLins said:
I am using the prime streaming video service.
For doing so, i downloaded the Vodoo app to unroot and another app for allowing me to see videos worldwide, since i am from brasil, and they do not support my country.
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i have the videos app and the unroot app, however the video app just force closes whenever i try to watch anything. I assume because i have not entered any information in as to what my amazon account is.
is there a workaround for this?

Uk Fire TV

Hi Guys, I've read a lot of stuff on here, and I'm a little confused.
I'm getting my Fire Tv to, with the intention of rooting it to use as an XBMC box.
I understand that it may come with frimware that can't be rooted (not without some soldering anyway) how could I check that?
Do I need to block the update sites in my router before switching it on?
seymour71 said:
Hi Guys, I've read a lot of stuff on here, and I'm a little confused.
I'm getting my Fire Tv to, with the intention of rooting it to use as an XBMC box.
I understand that it may come with frimware that can't be rooted (not without some soldering anyway) how could I check that?
Do I need to block the update sites in my router before switching it on?
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I'm in the UK and just received my Fire TV.
I blocked the updates at my router using the guide from aftvnews website.
However, my Fire TV won't complete the setup without updating.
It seems there is no way around this, so I either put it back in it's box and await some way to get around it, or I let it update and use it without root.
helicon9 said:
I'm in the UK and just received my Fire TV.
I blocked the updates at my router using the guide from aftvnews website.
However, my Fire TV won't complete the setup without updating.
It seems there is no way around this, so I either put it back in it's box and await some way to get around it, or I let it update and use it without root.
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Bugger. That's what I was afraid of.
Thanks for your reply mate.
Which firmware did your UK AFTV come installed with? Here's a list
http://www.aftvnews.com/software/
helicon9 said:
I'm in the UK and just received my Fire TV.
I blocked the updates at my router using the guide from aftvnews website.
However, my Fire TV won't complete the setup without updating.
It seems there is no way around this, so I either put it back in it's box and await some way to get around it, or I let it update and use it without root.
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Thanks for the info. Still have my US bought one for ages ago, so will continue using that for now.
Out of curiosity, did you go through the install process anyway? If you did, just curious what firmware Uk ships with and what it attempts to download.
Cheers
eskay993 said:
Thanks for the info. Still have my US bought one for ages ago, so will continue using that for now.
Out of curiosity, did you go through the install process anyway? If you did, just curious what firmware Uk ships with and what it attempts to download.
Cheers
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I went through the install process anyway as not too fussed about root as long as XBMC works.
I don't know what firmware it shipped with because I couldn't access it with letting the update run, but it asked me to select language on setup, so I assume it was one of the 51.1.3. versions.
Anyhow, it updated and firmware is now 51.1.4.0_user_514006420.
So looks like a brand new firmware. I won't hold my breath for root on this one!!
helicon9 said:
I went through the install process anyway as not too fussed about root as long as XBMC works.
!
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Oh, you can use XBMC without root? Even play media from a local usb drive?
seymour71 said:
Oh, you can use XBMC without root? Even play media from a local usb drive?
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Yes you can install and run xbmc without root, just sideload over adb.
Root just enables you to use it as a launcher, so you can skip the fire tv interface.
helicon9 said:
Yes you can install and run xbmc without root, just sideload over adb.
Root just enables you to use it as a launcher, so you can skip the fire tv interface.
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AHHHHHHHHH,RIIIIIIIIIIGGGGHHHHT.
I'll do that then, not that I have another option at the mo anyway!
Cheers.
helicon9 said:
I went through the install process anyway as not too fussed about root as long as XBMC works.
I don't know what firmware it shipped with because I couldn't access it with letting the update run, but it asked me to select language on setup, so I assume it was one of the 51.1.3. versions.
Anyhow, it updated and firmware is now 51.1.4.0_user_514006420.
So looks like a brand new firmware. I won't hold my breath for root on this one!!
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Cool thanks for the info. Wonder if new firmware is why I can't install Netflix from UK store on a US device. Time will tell!
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seymour71 said:
AHHHHHHHHH,RIIIIIIIIIIGGGGHHHHT.
I'll do that then, not that I have another option at the mo anyway!
Cheers.
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Just one thing to note.. You also asked about playing media off an external usb device. I believe this does need root, but worth double checking that. XBMC works fine with media from a network share or NAS though without root.
eskay993 said:
Cool thanks for the info. Wonder if new firmware is why I can't install Netflix from UK store on a US device. Time will tell!
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Just one thing to note.. You also asked about playing media off an external usb device. I believe this does need root, but worth double checking that. XBMC works fine with media from a network share or NAS though without root.
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Hmmmm, yes, i thought I'd read that. All the media is on a usb drive, so i'll check. Thanks.
Hi
I got mine today too, unrootable
I have sideloaded Kodi, seems to work fine, though the Helix alpha did not work, so am using gotham 13.2.
Would be nice to have xbmc on the home screen... very lame having to tool through several menus to get to xbmc every time... hopefully some clever sod will hack this so it will work with android free from amazon's suffocation.
Mark.
fredphoesh said:
Hi
I got mine today too, unrootable
I have sideloaded Kodi, seems to work fine, though the Helix alpha did not work, so am using gotham 13.2.
Would be nice to have xbmc on the home screen... very lame having to tool through several menus to get to xbmc every time... hopefully some clever sod will hack this so it will work with android free from amazon's suffocation.
Mark.
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Are you able to play media from the usb at all?
fredphoesh said:
Hi
I got mine today too, unrootable
I have sideloaded Kodi, seems to work fine, though the Helix alpha did not work, so am using gotham 13.2.
Would be nice to have xbmc on the home screen... very lame having to tool through several menus to get to xbmc every time... hopefully some clever sod will hack this so it will work with android free from amazon's suffocation.
Mark.
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A half decent workaround is to use Llama and a "dummy" app to make xbmc/kodi launch when you click the dummy app on the home screen. There's a guide below (look at the "Semi Bypass" Section). Been using it for a while and works fine, as long as you don't mind clicking a random icon to launch kodi.
http://kodi.wiki/view/Amazon_Fire_TV#Llama_.28automation.29_Events
I'm using mine with a NAS. I think attaching USB hard drives does require root.
I use SPMC (non launcher version) and it shows up in recently used apps at the top of Fire TV main menu, so no having to dig through the settings sub menus.
This may be because it's also in Amazon App Store (though shows as not compatible with Fire TV).
fredphoesh said:
Hi
I got mine today too, unrootable
I have sideloaded Kodi, seems to work fine, though the Helix alpha did not work, so am using gotham 13.2.
Would be nice to have xbmc on the home screen... very lame having to tool through several menus to get to xbmc every time... hopefully some clever sod will hack this so it will work with android free from amazon's suffocation.
Mark.
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I've tried a few versions of xbmc, they all start up with the initial startup/config screen then instantly just boot back to the fire launcher, then when I click on xbmc to launch it looks like it's about to boot but then just comes straight back to the fire launcher.
Ive also installed plex with side load and that works ok?
Do you have any suggestions? thanks.
eskay993 said:
A half decent workaround is to use Llama and a "dummy" app to make xbmc/kodi launch when you click the dummy app on the home screen.
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Nice, thanks... alas too late, I have boxed my FireTV and put it on Ebay... too few apps that I like & want will work properly on this box, so I'm going to wait for a proper Lollipop Android TV !
chowynatt said:
I've tried a few versions of xbmc, they all start up with the initial startup/config screen then instantly just boot back to the fire launche
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I also had that with the first two versions I tried. I also tried to clean the data/cache on the app, see if that works?
seymour71 said:
Are you able to play media from the usb at all?
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sorry, I didn't try it and now my FireTV is in a box ready to be sold on ebay... I don't believe it will though, but don't know.
Mark

[Q] New firmware - does it break root? Do I care?

I am interested in the new Fire TV firmware since it has a new Netflix app and can be used as a Miracast receiver. However, I am currently rooted (and not sure if I need to be). The only non-official app I currently use is XBMC. Do I need to be rooted to use that? How do I update to the new firmware without losing root?
martyxng said:
I am interested in the new Fire TV firmware since it has a new Netflix app and can be used as a Miracast receiver. However, I am currently rooted (and not sure if I need to be). The only non-official app I currently use is XBMC. Do I need to be rooted to use that? How do I update to the new firmware without losing root?
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I would recommend against removing root as that would be sacrilegious to the Fire TV. Follow the How to install a Custom ROM Image on the Amazon Fire TV guide as it gives detailed instructions on how to receive the latest Pre-Rooted Stock Software. The newest update does include the new Netflix app and Miracast support. And trust me, rooting is the best thing to ever happen to the Fire TV.
I'm sure that someone that has a non rootable fire tv will be willing to trade with you
martyxng said:
I am interested in the new Fire TV firmware since it has a new Netflix app and can be used as a Miracast receiver. However, I am currently rooted (and not sure if I need to be). The only non-official app I currently use is XBMC. Do I need to be rooted to use that? How do I update to the new firmware without losing root?
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You don't need to be rooted to use XBMC.
martyxng said:
I am interested in the new Fire TV firmware since it has a new Netflix app and can be used as a Miracast receiver. However, I am currently rooted (and not sure if I need to be). The only non-official app I currently use is XBMC. Do I need to be rooted to use that? How do I update to the new firmware without losing root?
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The most crucial thing you'll lose is the ability to use external USB drives.
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superkoal said:
The most crucial thing you'll lose is the ability to use external USB drives.
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I'd argue that the most crucial thing would be to lose the ability to have XBMC/KODI/SPMC as the default launcher on the Fire TV. Priceless!
mjbxx said:
I'd argue that the most crucial thing would be to lose the ability to have XBMC/KODI/SPMC as the default launcher on the Fire TV. Priceless!
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This is indeed, the best thing root brought me.
I don't have XBMC as the default launcher, but that would be nice, if I still had a way to use the official Netflix app - maybe some day!
You can still use XBMC from the main GUI even if you aren't root. I have a rooted FTV and an unrooted one. I am in the process of unrooting the rooted one as I never use sub storage and the unrooted FTV seems to have been more stable. For example I have never had to reboot it to get it to play a video from Plex whereas I have had to do this with the rooted one. Mind you there could be many reasons why that is the case. Seems odd that rooting would lead to a less stable system. More likely it's what I have done as root which has caused that.
The one thing which would be nice is if you could streamline the GUI and have certain apps in a fixed place. I don't really like them moving all over the place. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be a way to do that.
Sent from my Fire HDX.
Netflix works fine on the newest rooted firmware.. Why not just upgrade?
pmcdunnough said:
You can still use XBMC from the main GUI even if you aren't root. I have a rooted FTV and an unrooted one. I am in the process of unrooting the rooted one as I never use sub storage and the unrooted FTV seems to have been more stable. For example I have never had to reboot it to get it to play a video from Plex whereas I have had to do this with the rooted one. Mind you there could be many reasons why that is the case. Seems odd that rooting would lead to a less stable system. More likely it's what I have done as root which has caused that.
The one thing which would be nice is if you could streamline the GUI and have certain apps in a fixed place. I don't really like them moving all over the place. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be a way to do that.
Sent from my Fire HDX.
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Rather than unrooting it,sell it in its rooted state and buy a new unrooted unit. I cant speak for plex,but i have a rooted fireTV which is working just fine with hulu netflix xbmc. Just use the adbfire tool to upgrade to the latest version of the rooted firmware. Really easy,and if its still unstable for plex,sell it off. Might even make some money lol.
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why root

Is the only reason to root a fire tv to install a custom ROM. Will XBMC still run on a un-rooted device
I have a device that is rooted and only use it for XBMC. Last week it locked up. Going to send it in but they will probably install the latest firmware on it. Thats OK as long as I can still install and use XBMC
Thanks Rick
Lots of reasons to root but no you don't need it for xbmc.
typically rooting only give you access to customizing the actual OS and running certain apps (like openvpn). to use xbmc and 99% of apps, you do not need root..
Rooting ftv
Is is true that if you dont root, Amazons updates can brick your device so you cants use XBMC anymore?
Rooting is keeping your options open for the future.
1. If XBMC or sideloading is ever blocked by Amazon by future updates then rooting w/recovery installed gives you a chance to block the Amazon update.
2. Rooting allow use of USB external hard drive for storage of media with access via xbmc.
3. Possible custom rom in the future. It would be nice to get Android TV onto this box.
4. Root allows you to use an external SSD to essentially replace the 8gb storage and put a lot of games/apps on the Firetv.
5. Allows you to put on a cleaned up Amazon update that could close up the possibility of sideloading.
To add to the above list for me the most needed are.
1. Quick support from google play. You need root for live desktop/remote view. I can support my friends and family remotely.
2. Emulators from google play which needs to be purchased.
3. Change the icon to Kodi.
4. Upcoming custom rom of android TV.
5. Removal of Amazon enforced menu items.
plus the others mentioned such as USB drives.
navigates said:
To add to the above list for me the most needed are.
3. Change the icon to Kodi.
plus the others mentioned such as USB drives.
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You can change icon to Kodi without root. Thats what I do with my non rooted boxes.
yazyazoo said:
Rooting is keeping your options open for the future.
1. If XBMC or sideloading is ever blocked by Amazon by future updates then rooting w/recovery installed gives you a chance to block the Amazon update.
2. Rooting allow use of USB external hard drive for storage of media with access via xbmc.
3. Possible custom rom in the future. It would be nice to get Android TV onto this box.
4. Root allows you to use an external SSD to essentially replace the 8gb storage and put a lot of games/apps on the Firetv.
5. Allows you to put on a cleaned up Amazon update that could close up the possibility of sideloading.
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How do you upgrade the internal apps storage(#4)?
nebulink said:
You can change icon to Kodi without root. Thats what I do with my non rooted boxes.
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Are you sure. I try adbfire on non rooted ones and change of icone does not take effect. I always thought it was a rooted feature. That's good to know.
By the way bestbuys in LA now have the latest non rooted versions. Its sad.
There should be a new way to root. these devices are getting scarce by the day. I always have people come up to me and ask if I can make them one, and I direct them to find a correct piece.
Amazon can't stop you from using Kodi (at the moment).
USB storage is enough reason for me to have the aftv rooted.
krasny2k5 said:
USB storage is enough reason for me to have the aftv rooted.
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I still haven't seen the need to expand my storage beyond native. I have kodi with a library of about 200 movies and google play and a few apps. haven't seen the need for additional space . One point to note here is that I did recover about 2 GB of my lost space by running a google play software called SDMaid Pro. That scans for orphan files that are not required and cleans up space. Costs about 2.50. That again needs root for google play.
navigates said:
I still haven't seen the need to expand my storage beyond native. I have kodi with a library of about 200 movies and google play and a few apps. haven't seen the need for additional space . One point to note here is that I did recover about 2 GB of my lost space by running a google play software called SDMaid Pro. That scans for orphan files that are not required and cleans up space. Costs about 2.50. That again needs root for google play.
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Really?
I'm always having to delete apps to make room for others.. it's a pain
I have a few large-ish games like Game of Thrones, The Wolf Among Us (with all episodes it takes up a lot of space)
8GB is tiny
DN38416 said:
Really?
I'm always having to delete apps to make room for others.. it's a pain
I have a few large-ish games like Game of Thrones, The Wolf Among Us (with all episodes it takes up a lot of space)
8GB is tiny
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Oh maybe then. I'm not into playing games. the only games i have is the emulators like md.emu for sega or mame etc. those are really small. If your into games then yes 8gb can be a limitation. Also give SDmaid a shot. you'll need google play to get the pro version that matches orphans and recovers lost space. I got 2 gb back which is a good thing with a space strapped storage.
The day I need to expand the storage which I may need as I have about 1.5 gb remaining. I'll look around as to which script to use. i believe by expanding, the firetv bootup becomes slow. I also got a usb 2.0 hub during the black friday sale from staples for 2 bucks. I didn't know what to buy then so got the hub. Its targus and still packed.
bumpaudio said:
How do you upgrade the internal apps storage(#4)?
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I haven't done it personally.
http://www.aftvnews.com/how-to-use-a-usb-drive-as-the-fire-tvs-internal-storage/
yazyazoo said:
I haven't done it personally.
http://www.aftvnews.com/how-to-use-a-usb-drive-as-the-fire-tvs-internal-storage/
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thanks I've seen that in the past. I will try that when needed but for now I'm ok with the internal storage. I plan to buy the m.2 ssd and put it in an enclosure when I'm ready.
I didn't want to open a thread just to post this but what are the cons of an unlocked bootloader. I'm already rooted with the playstore installed but why would or should I unlock my bootloader?
So wait, are amazon planning on blocking sideloading apps? Where has this info came from? I don't yet have a fire tv but if they are gonna block sideloading, I'll spend my £70 elsewhere. Not a single chance I'd be subscribing to prime or anything like that.
cliffyboro said:
So wait, are amazon planning on blocking sideloading apps? Where has this info came from? I don't yet have a fire tv but if they are gonna block sideloading, I'll spend my £70 elsewhere. Not a single chance I'd be subscribing to prime or anything like that.
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no one knows. And if you are still contemplating, you probably have missed out on the rootable ones. However if you are in the UK, that is a no go anyways unless you go through the hardware root. I highly doubt Amazon will disable sideloading, however there is no telling what they will do eventually. If you are rooted and update blocked, then you can always use your device the way you want.
PS: Lots of us have extra's for the rainy day ! Its a super fun toy to play with. Unlocator, Streaming. I'd say go for it. Its given me hours of tinkering around fun.
As I've said on many other occasions, they can't disable sideloading. That is, as long as they expect people to still develop apps for the Fire TV.

Downgrade YouTube app after Oreo update?

I'm one of those people who hate the newer web wrapper based YouTube app and have been using the last native app they released. Nvidia was nice enough to bundle the native app in /system in their Nougat updates so that people like me could easily stay on that version. This has apparently changed in the Oreo update though.
Has anyone tried downgrading the app using either of the methods commands below?
Code:
adb install -r -d youtube.apk
Or
Code:
adb push youtube.apk /sdcard/
adb shell pm install -r -d /sdcard/youtube.apk
Download the APK here:
https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/googl...ube-for-android-tv-android-tv-1-3-11-release/
I would try it myself but I don't want to be stuck with the new crappy app if the above fails.
It seems it doesn't work for system apps, at least on Oreo.
Any other ideas?
Moved /system/app/YouTubeLeanback to /sdcard/, rebooted, and was able to install it. Thanks.
FierceDeityLink1 said:
Moved /system/app/YouTubeLeanback to /sdcard/, rebooted, and was able to install it. Thanks.
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I presume your Shield is rooted? Otherwise I don't see how that would work.
If it isn't, I'd be very interested in some more details though.
blunden said:
I presume your Shield is rooted? Otherwise I don't see how that would work.
If it isn't, I'd be very interested in some more details though.
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Oh yes, it is. My bad.
How to blocking ads on YouTube on Shield ?
Caporeira said:
How to blocking ads on YouTube on Shield ?
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Youtube Premium...$11.99/month. I pay for family ($14.99/month for 6 google accounts).
Worth the price, at least for me and my family. Shared with my in-laws, brother and his wife (that $2.5/month/person). No ad at any time, Youtube Music (or Play Music) included.
Considering the amount of time we spend on YouTube I never looked back, especially since my kids are little and I do not want them exposed to stupid ads every 5 minutes.
Not the answer you were looking for!
Thank you, it's not bad idea.
Did you hear about YouTube Vance ?
It's possible to install this application on Shield ?
https://github.com/yuliskov/SmartYouTubeTV
Work great here on the Shield.
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I'm not sure which OS is on our Shield (kids Xmas present tomorrow). I did have it hooked up briefly to set it up so it's ready out of the box. I didn't like the YouTube version installed because it defaulted to the system Google account. Can't be changed and no multiple accounts. So I installed smarttubeTV. Kids are used to it as that's what we use on fire TV. It allows multiple accounts so the kids can have their own with easy switching.
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