Does the Verizon Note 4 allow simultaneous voice and data like the S5 and, basically, all prior android devices on Verizon? Or is it like the Droid Turbo / 2014 Moto X where it won't be doing voice/data at the same time until it receives the VoLTE update?
Yes i am sure it does...even the note 3 did.
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Yes i am sure it does...even the note 3 did.
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I appreciate that, but the same can be said for the Droid Maxx and original X, and the new ones don't do it. Forgive me for being anal, but do you have one in hand or were you saying that just b/c of the Note 3?
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Does the Verizon Note 4 allow simultaneous voice and data like the S5 and, basically, all prior android devices on Verizon? Or is it like the Droid Turbo / 2014 Moto X where it won't be doing voice/data at the same time until it receives the VoLTE update?
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It does, I tried it.
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Voice and data at the same time have been available since Verizon brought out 4g LTE service. If you're in a LTE service area (most of the country with Verizon).... Then voice goes over the old CDMA network and data is on lte. And you can use both at the same time.
VoLTE is different, and is being rolled out to devices.
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Voice and data at the same time have been available since Verizon brought out 4g LTE service. If you're in a LTE service area (most of the country with Verizon).... Then voice goes over the old CDMA network and data is on lte. And you can use both at the same time.
VoLTE is different, and is being rolled out to devices.
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Any idea when we can expect volte update?
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Voice and data at the same time have been available since Verizon brought out 4g LTE service. If you're in a LTE service area (most of the country with Verizon).... Then voice goes over the old CDMA network and data is on lte. And you can use both at the same time.
VoLTE is different, and is being rolled out to devices.
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Only on Android devices (most, not all), and only because they built a "dual" antenna/radio setup on the snapdragon chipsets. But for whatever reason on the new X and Turbo, they went away from that. So the only way to have that function again is with the somewhat unreliable VoLTE.
Thanks for confirming the Note 4 still can...
Was going to say. I have been able to since s3 & first time was with HTC Thunderbolt
Pretty much since lte service
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Voice and data at the same time have been available since Verizon brought out 4g LTE service. If you're in a LTE service area (most of the country with Verizon).... Then voice goes over the old CDMA network and data is on lte. And you can use both at the same time.
VoLTE is different, and is being rolled out to devices.
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Note: This is NOT true for the Motorola Droid Turbo. I have one. I'm returning it for several reasons, this being one. The only way to get simultaneous voice and data is VoLTE which isn't available on the Turbo yet.
I think all Samsung smartphones on Vzw does. Well, every 4G LTE Samsung... and HTC, right?
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Was going to say. I have been able to since s3 & first time was with HTC Thunderbolt
Pretty much since lte service
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Yeah, some phones don't and I'm not sure why. Lower end phones don't either, like iphones for exemple
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The iPhone 6 do have volte but you have to enable it. The downside is that your voice quality could be impacted if your data connection sucked. Didn't sound like a feature that turns on/off automatically with all the warning messages it gave me.
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Note: This is NOT true for the Motorola Droid Turbo. I have one. I'm returning it for several reasons, this being one. The only way to get simultaneous voice and data is VoLTE which isn't available on the Turbo yet.
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Wow I was not aware they still made phones that don't do voice/data at the same time!! Learn something new every day LOL. Thanks for the info though.... Good to know that kind of info.
Seriously who would make a phone that takes a step backwards....
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The iPhone 6 do have volte but you have to enable it. The downside is that your voice quality could be impacted if your data connection sucked. Didn't sound like a feature that turns on/off automatically with all the warning messages it gave me.
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And if your LTE hiccups, you lose your call completely...
Ah, iPhones! I remember having a Blackberry, they both have/had potential. Just lack on progressing in innovation & giving users opportunity to help them grow.
I see Windows phones being a bigger threat to Androids innovation & expansions sooner than Apple here before long. Can't just hold on to ideas, you run with them!
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Does the Verizon Note 4 allow simultaneous voice and data like the S5 and, basically, all prior android devices on Verizon? Or is it like the Droid Turbo / 2014 Moto X where it won't be doing voice/data at the same time until it receives the VoLTE update?
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Note Edge user here and I am really really trying to wrap my head around not being able to simultaneously talk and be on the net without voLTE.
I mean I can multitask windows and can send a text when I'm on the phone.
Excruciating.
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Note Edge user here and I am really really trying to wrap my head around not being able to simultaneously talk and be on the net without voLTE.
I mean I can multitask windows and can send a text when I'm on the phone.
Excruciating.
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Whats excruciating to me is the fact that on my Galaxy Note 4, I could be on a call and surf at the same time on the 4g network. On my Verizon Galaxy Note Edge, I cannot. Thats nuts!
I may have to turn on advanced calling if I want this feature.
I call using Google Hangout dialer. Voice and data works fine like that.
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Note Edge user here and I am really really trying to wrap my head around not being able to simultaneously talk and be on the net without voLTE.
I mean I can multitask windows and can send a text when I'm on the phone.
Excruciating.
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Whats excruciating to me is the fact that on my Galaxy Note 4, I could be on a call and surf at the same time on the 4g network. On my Verizon Galaxy Note Edge, I cannot. Thats nuts!
I may have to turn on advanced calling if I want this feature.
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It's due to the antenna setup.
In order for voice and data to function simultaneously on Verizon without VoLTE, there has to be two separate antennas - one for CDMA and one for LTE. Some of Verizon's recent devices (such as the Note Edge and Droid Turbo) only have one shared antenna, meaning that only CDMA or LTE can run, not both. It's certainly frustrating for many users, and while Verizon's reasoning for this makes some sense, it's still not great at this time for those who use the feature. With the network moving toward LTE-only with VoLTE, Verizon's reasoning is in part based on this - why include additional hardware at additional cost and space (a second antenna) to run voice and data simultaneously when the same feature can be achieved with one antenna and VoLTE? Of course, VoLTE isn't completely ready for prime time, and they're still working out issues, so for many it's not a true replacement at this point. But that's a big reason why some of Verizon's recent phones can't do simultaneous voice and data without VoLTE - Verizon is trying to pave the way for VoLTE adoption.
Which NEW phones support Voice and Data (WITHOUT) using VoLTE... I have a 2013 Moto X that supports this, and refuse to upgrade until I can find a new device that does support this -- where can I find this data? I would imagine some phone (like a Nexus 5X) might support this since it's not made specifically for Verizon? And before it gets asked, VoLTE is too unreliable for my needs --- when using it on my work iPhone 6S calls drop constantly, so I've had to disable it... but still need voice AND data at once. Any resources / sites listing which devices support this feature would be really helpful.
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I just noticed that my data shuts off when I make a call. That wasn't the case with my galaxy phone. Is there an option or something that can enable me to use both voice and data at the same time?
I've had this happen with my last several phones. I would love to know how to fix it. My HTC One X, One M7, and Moto X all do this, along with my G3.
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It depends on your carrier.
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does it really? i am still with sprint where i was able to do this on gs3
anyone figure this out? I had my GS3 on sprint and used data all the time while on conference calls on LTE or 3g. Now when I'm in a call, any app that requires internet gives me a no connection error. I don't know if it has to do with the new Spark network, but i spend a lot of time on calls and find it aggravating I can't send emails or access the internet simultaneously.
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does it really? i am still with sprint where i was able to do this on gs3
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The Galaxy S3 on Sprint was one of the last phones to do simultaneous voice and data while on 3G, aka SVDO. From then onwards Sprint started building out their Spark LTE network (NOW Network) and hence tri-band (800/1900/2600) LTE phones, which could no longer do simultaneous voice and data even when on LTE (e.g Nexus 5, LG G2 etc onwards). Ofcourse if you're connected to a WiFi network, you can talk and be online at the same time.
So that feature is gone on Sprint until they implement the next phase, VoLTE (Voice over LTE), which means voice will be carried over the all data LTE network.
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anyone figure this out? I had my GS3 on sprint and used data all the time while on conference calls on LTE or 3g. Now when I'm in a call, any app that requires internet gives me a no connection error. I don't know if it has to do with the new Spark network, but i spend a lot of time on calls and find it aggravating I can't send emails or access the internet simultaneously.
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That feature went away when Spark phones debuted. I used to have a Galaxy S3 back then and even though i didn't have that many times where i needed to be online and talking at the same time, the few times i needed to it was really nice.
Spark phones only have one "path" which handles both voice and data, saves on battery life and data etc, that's the reasoning.
This article from back then should shed some more light. Very good read... http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/...-due-to-circuit-switched-fallback-technology/
I just noticed that I cant use the phone and surf the internet at the same time?? Is anyone having this problem? And if so is there a fix??
Thanks
It's not a problem, it's designed that way. None of the Spark devices have that capability unless you're running Wi-Fi for data while on a call, or using VOIP.
That sucks, just when you give sprint some hope they do this! If I had known I might have stayed with them after 15 years with them.
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I just noticed that I cant use the phone and surf the internet at the same time?? Is anyone having this problem? And if so is there a fix??
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On 3g you can. The gf and I tested it last night. 3g yes you can.
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On 3g you can. The gf and I tested it last night. 3g yes you can.
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You were using Google voice or some other VOIP service. It is physically impossible to run a CDMA voice call and data at the same time on a Spark device. It doesn't have the hardware to do this. Try it again with Wi-Fi turned off and without using your VOIP service.
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On 3g you can. The gf and I tested it last night. 3g yes you can.
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I might be missing a setting or something because I can't.
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You were using Google voice or some other VOIP service. It is physically impossible to run a CDMA voice call and data at the same time on a Spark device. It doesn't have the hardware to do this. Try it again with Wi-Fi turned off and without using your VOIP service.
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Straight up call. It works. Give it a try. Btw, no VOIP. What would be the point?
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I might be missing a setting or something because I can't.
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Make sure you are not in LTE mode. 3g and it will work.
Is there a way to make it automatically switch down to 3G when on a call, instead of losing the data connection completely? I was really surprised when I discovered this issue present on the Note 4 which did not exist on the Note 3.
You're wasting your time. It doesn't work unless you're using a VOIP service. It's a Spark device limitation. I have yet to actually see any kind of proof that this guy is making calls and using data at the same time. Perhaps it's because it's not possible on the Note 4 on Sprint.
Doesnt work for me.. 3G only.. in a call...NO data!!
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You're wasting your time. It doesn't work unless you're using a VOIP service. It's a Spark device limitation. I have yet to actually see any kind of proof that this guy is making calls and using data at the same time. Perhaps it's because it's not possible on the Note 4 on Sprint.
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Pardon me pilot but your flat out wrong. I use data often while taking in cdma mode (3g) . No VOIP of any kind... Just sprints network.
Do you even have a GN4 to try it out? Doesn't sound like it.
Interesting that you seem to be the only one that's ever gotten this to work. Go to the play store and install the signal check app (lite or pro). You don't even have to try to use data, just make a call, open the app, take a screen shot and post it here, then we can discuss.
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He has a special note 4 made just for him that allows data..
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The only devices that did simultaneous voice and 3g data were the Evo LTE, GS3 and Viper. No CDMA before or after could do it. Spark devices are not an exemption.. No voice and data till voice over LTE rolls out which won't be anytime soon.
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Thanks for actually understanding Spark devices and their limitations, unlike some others. Still waiting for a screenshot. I guess the photoshopping is proving more challenging than he expected. . .
Sprint could never truly do voice and data simultaneously. The only time it could was on previous LTE devices since there were two separate antennas. 3G and lower antenna and the 4G LTE antenna. Currently LTE on sprint is purely data. So while you were on a call, the LTE antenna was free to be used.
Spark phones only have one antenna to handle everything. It is a one lane highway and will be that way until VoLTE.
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Sprint could never truly do voice and data simultaneously. The only time it could was on previous LTE devices since there were two separate antennas. 3G and lower antenna and the 4G LTE antenna. Currently LTE on sprint is purely data. So while you were on a call, the LTE antenna was free to be used.
Spark phones only have one antenna to handle everything. It is a one lane highway and will be that way until VoLTE.
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That wasnt the only time. The 3 devices i mentioned ealrier did data on 3g and voice simultaneously although as fast as they came up with that they also ended it too. But yup on the VoLTE.
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No simultaneous phone call and data is probably my only complaint with the Note 4. Coming from the Note 2 and I could talk on the phone and browse the web on 3G/LTE at the same time without missing a beat. I really miss that. Now evrytime I get a call while i'm browsing the web etc, I get a blank white screen with a error message. The biggest flaw with the phone in my opinion!
I read there are some issues with the Galaxy S6 and some newer phones on Verizon being unable to do native simultaneous voice + data. I think because of a limit of the # of radios and/or antennas. What can we expect with the 5X on VZW? Thank you!
All new phones can do simultaneous voice and data only with VoLTE or while connected to WiFi. When connected to LTE (and no VoLTE) or 3G data they will drop to CDMA 1X if a call comes in. This is because they only have one antenna pathway and one radio. If they had a separate radio for LTE (like done older phones) it would drain battery almost twice as fast since mobile connection is one of your larger battery users.
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All new phones can do simultaneous voice and data only with VoLTE or while connected to WiFi. When connected to LTE (and no VoLTE) or 3G data they will drop to CDMA 1X if a call comes in. This is because they only have one antenna pathway and one radio. If they had a separate radio for LTE (like done older phones) it would drain battery almost twice as fast since mobile connection is one of your larger battery users.
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Ugh, what I feared. How do people do Nav and have phone calls at the same time? Is this going to work with VZW VoLTE on day one? May have made sense to design with two radios and two antennas and only activate the second one when necessary?
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Ugh, what I feared. How do people do Nav and have phone calls at the same time? Is this going to work with VZW VoLTE on day one? May have made sense to design with two radios and two antennas and only activate the second one when necessary?
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Any time LTE is on the second would have to be on, or it wouldn't be able to seamlessly take the call, so that wouldn't have worked.
If your call isn't very long navigation would still work fine, it caches a bit in case of signal drop. The other option would be to download the route ahead of time, Google can do it now I think.
I have a feeling it should have VoLTE though, which would give you voice and data.
http://www.droid-life.com/2015/03/1...e-and-data-now-works-on-nexus-6-with-verizon/
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Any time LTE is on the second would have to be on, or it wouldn't be able to seamlessly take the call, so that wouldn't have worked.
If your call isn't very long navigation would still work fine, it caches a bit in case of signal drop. The other option would be to download the route ahead of time, Google can do it now I think.
I have a feeling it should have VoLTE though, which would give you voice and data.
http://www.droid-life.com/2015/03/1...e-and-data-now-works-on-nexus-6-with-verizon/
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Will the same limitations be on each carrier (ie. if I switch to AT&T I still need to use VoLTE for simultaneous voice + data)? Thank you!!
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Will the same limitations be on each carrier (ie. if I switch to AT&T I still need to use VoLTE for simultaneous voice + data)? Thank you!!
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Nope, the way GSM and CDMA works are different. Say you don't have VoLTE and are on an LTE connection. The tower also has a spot for you on HSPDA and GSM if on Tmo or AT&T, or on CDMA if on Sprint or Verizon. If you get a call you fallback to HSPDA or GSM. A similar thing happens on CDMA. The difference is CDMA can't do voice and data on the same connection, GSM and HSPDA can do both.
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Nope, the way GSM and CDMA works are different. Say you don't have VoLTE and are on an LTE connection. The tower also has a spot for you on HSPDA and GSM if on Tmo or AT&T, or on CDMA if on Sprint or Verizon. If you get a call you fallback to HSPDA or GSM. A similar thing happens on CDMA. The difference is CDMA can't do voice and data on the same connection, GSM and HSPDA can do both.
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Really wish phones included a Ev radio so this would not be an issue. I wonder if the voice quality/codec on AT&T has improved over the years? Last I used them their voice quality was far inferior to VZW. May be time to consider a carrier switch.
I've not had problems with voice quality, the few times I call on AT&T. They weren't as good as Sprint (their new network has simply amazing voice quality, and data was OK lol).
Mostly I use Google voice via hangouts to make calls, so the network data is more important then voice quality.
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All new phones can do simultaneous voice and data only with VoLTE or while connected to WiFi. When connected to LTE (and no VoLTE) or 3G data they will drop to CDMA 1X if a call comes in. This is because they only have one antenna pathway and one radio. If they had a separate radio for LTE (like done older phones) it would drain battery almost twice as fast since mobile connection is one of your larger battery users.
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How new? My S4 gets simultaneous voice/data on lte, but not on 3g. Are you sure you're right about this?
Well, the S4 is not a new phone. And yes I'm certain without advanced calling (or VoLTE) you will not have voice and data on LTE at the same time.
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Something I'm just realizing...I have a lot of friends and offices that have cell phone amplifier / extender systems that only repeat 3G not LTE. With no 3G radio this phone will be only able to do 1x for voice/data?! I think its also crazy that pure data devices such as the MiFi/personal hotspots still include ability to do EvDo Rev A yet phones don't!
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How new? My S4 gets simultaneous voice/data on lte, but not on 3g. Are you sure you're right about this?
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The S4 had extra antennas unlike the newer phones because of VoLTE. The S4 had both radios on at the same time which eats more battery on a call with VoLTE you have improved battery life during a call and do both at the same time. The move was intentional to save costs as well as battery life in the long run.
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I just got my Nexus 5X up and running on verizon. With my Galaxy Nexus I was about to take a phone call while tethering, but can't do that on this phone. Is there a fix for this? It's kind of a bummer because I tether often and take phone calls.
Edit: (12/18/2015) I figured it out. Chatted with VZW tech support to enable HD voice feature, and made sure "enhanced LTE mode" was on in settings. Voice+Data work simultaneously now!
Update: (1/19/2016) I have still intermittently had issues with simultaneously voice+data. I started to wonder if it could depend on who you are calling or what tower you are connected to. I powered down my phone and pulled the sim card for a few seconds, then rebooted and it worked again.
When I got my Nexus 5 back in 2013 I noticed that if I was on LTE and made/received a call the data would switch to H and then switch back to LTE after the call was ended. My Nexus 5X does the same thing. What's the deal? Before I had the Nexus 5 I had a Galaxy SII Skyrocket(the LTE version of the Galaxy SII from AT&T) and that phone would stay on LTE during calls and that was from an early LTE phone (the first AT&T offered). I would expect the same from a current phone in 2015.
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When I got my Nexus 5 back in 2013 I noticed that if I was on LTE and made/received a call the data would switch to H and then switch back to LTE after the call was ended. My Nexus 5X does the same thing. What's the deal? Before I had the Nexus 5 I had a Galaxy SII Skyrocket(the LTE version of the Galaxy SII from AT&T) and that phone would stay on LTE during calls and that was from an early LTE phone (the first AT&T offered). I would expect the same from a current phone in 2015.
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I am using Nexus 5X with T-Mobile and phone stays on LTE during call. There is a settings in: settings>more>cellular networks - Enhanced 4G LTE Mode ON/OFF switch. Do you have that?
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I am using Nexus 5X with T-Mobile and phone stays on LTE during call. There is a settings in: settings>more>cellular networks - Enhanced 4G LTE Mode ON/OFF switch. Do you have that?
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Nope. I don't have that option. I'm on AT&T. That's really strange that you Nexus 5X has that and mine doesn't. Kind of strange that yours has software differences. Did you buy your phone directly from Google?
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Nope. I don't have that option. I'm on AT&T. That's really strange that you Nexus 5X has that and mine doesn't. Kind of strange that yours has software differences. Did you buy your phone directly from Google?
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Phone is directly from google and this is the current build #MDB08L. If you have anyone with T-Mobile sim, try it.
Dial *#*#4636#*#*, then tap "phone info", scroll to the bottom and check for "VOLTE PROVISIONED FLAG" - if it is on, then you will see OFF in from of VOLTE...
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Phone is directly from google and this is the current build #MDB08L. If you have anyone with T-Mobile sim, try it.
Dial *#*#4636#*#*, then tap "phone info", scroll to the bottom and check for "VOLTE PROVISIONED FLAG" - if it is on, then you will see OFF in from of VOLTE...
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It currently says "TURN OFF VOLTE PROVISIONED FLAG" so I'm guessing it's currently on. However I'm not sure what this has to do with anything. VoLTE means "voice over LTE". I'm not even trying to do voice over LTE. I'm just trying to use LTE for regular data while on a call over regular GSM.
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It currently says "TURN OFF VOLTE PROVISIONED FLAG" so I'm guessing it's currently on. However I'm not sure what this has to do with anything. VoLTE means "voice over LTE". I'm not even trying to do voice over LTE. I'm just trying to use LTE for regular data while on a call over regular GSM.
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That is exactly the case if you want to stay on LTE while on a call, then it is called VoLTE(Voice over LTE). Your setting for that seems to be on...
Things to try, unless Nexus 5X on AT&T is unable to do VoLTE, ask AT&T.
Test with T-Mobile sim
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That is exactly the case if you want to stay on LTE while on a call, then it is called VoLTE(Voice over LTE). Your setting for that seems to be on...
Things to try, unless Nexus 5X on AT&T is unable to do VoLTE, ask AT&T.
Test with T-Mobile sim
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Everything I've seen says that VoLTE means that the LTE data connection is used to actually make phone calls instead of the traditional cell voice network(GSM/CDMA). I don't care about that. I'm fine with regular phone calls using the regular GSM voice connection. I just want to be able to use the LTE connection for things like browsing while I'm on a regular phone call.
Good to know that it isn't an issue with the phone. I guess it might be an AT&T network issue but that would be strange since it worked with my old Galaxy S II Skyrocket that I bought in 2011. Maybe a compatibility issue between AT&T and this phone? I'll see if I can test with someones T-Mobile SIM. My SIM card is only a month old since I had to get a Nano SIM when switching from my Nexus 5(which took a Micro SIM).
The only way you will be able to use LTE to browse the internet while on a call is if you are placing the call using VoLTE. Before VoLTE (and currently if you don't have it) your phone will always drop to a non LTE connection.
I'm sorry but that's just the way it has been and the way it is. Every device that doesn't use VoLTE will change to a different non LTE signal to place the call.
AFAIK, VoLTE on our device does not seem to be supported on the "gsm" carriers.. Yet.
Maybe try out the Network app? It allows you to specify a network preference and do a bit of fine-tuning.
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When I got my Nexus 5 back in 2013 I noticed that if I was on LTE and made/received a call the data would switch to H and then switch back to LTE after the call was ended. My Nexus 5X does the same thing. What's the deal? Before I had the Nexus 5 I had a Galaxy SII Skyrocket(the LTE version of the Galaxy SII from AT&T) and that phone would stay on LTE during calls and that was from an early LTE phone (the first AT&T offered). I would expect the same from a current phone in 2015.
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I am on Tmobile and sometimes it does the same thing. I have to switch network preference to 2G then make a call hang up switch back to 4G then turn on the VOLTE option.
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The only way you will be able to use LTE to browse the internet while on a call is if you are placing the call using VoLTE. Before VoLTE (and currently if you don't have it) your phone will always drop to a non LTE connection.
I'm sorry but that's just the way it has been and the way it is. Every device that doesn't use VoLTE will change to a different non LTE signal to place the call.
AFAIK, VoLTE on our device does not seem to be supported on the "gsm" carriers.. Yet.
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That might be the case with the Nexus 5 and Nexus 5X but it was absolutely not the case with my old Galaxy SII Skyrocket. Kind of strange that the Nexus 5 and Nexus 5X have this issue. Seems kind of strange to me that the LTE radio would have to be turned off just because you are making a non-VoLTE call.
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That might be the case with the Nexus 5 and Nexus 5X but it was absolutely not the case with my old Galaxy SII Skyrocket. Kind of strange that the Nexus 5 and Nexus 5X have this issue. Seems kind of strange to me that the LTE radio would have to be turned off just because you are making a non-VoLTE call.
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This is the case with all devices that are not using the VoLTE service.
There is no other way, unless of course you are using a VoIP service or hangouts to place your calls.
GreenDroidX said:
I am on Tmobile and sometimes it does the same thing. I have to switch network preference to 2G then make a call hang up switch back to 4G then turn on the VOLTE option.
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Have not had issues with VoLTE on Nexus 5X using T-Mobile.
k.s.deviate said:
This is the case with all devices that are not using the VoLTE service.
There is no other way, unless of course you are using a VoIP service or hangouts to place your calls.
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I didn't realize VoLTE was a feature of phones in 2011. I'm wondering if maybe AT&T stopped supporting it on its network? Oh well, thanks for the info. I didn't realize a phone had to be able to make calls over LTE to be able to use LTE data while on a call. It's also surprising considering how Verizon does simultaneous voice and data. Once Verizon started supporting LTE phones(several years ago) you could do simultaneous voice and data but it wasn't(at least at that time) using LTE for voice calls. Just for data while a CDMA call was active. I guess it works differently for GSM?
Charkatak said:
Have not had issues with VoLTE on Nexus 5X using T-Mobile.
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Just to clarify, I'm not trying to make a voice call using LTE(which is what "Voice over LTE" means). Just trying to use LTE data while on a non-LTE voice call.
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I didn't realize VoLTE was a feature of phones in 2011. I'm wondering if maybe AT&T stopped supporting it on its network? Oh well, thanks for the info. I didn't realize a phone had to be able to make calls over LTE to be able to use LTE data while on a call. It's also surprising considering how Verizon does simultaneous voice and data. Once Verizon started supporting LTE phones(several years ago) you could do simultaneous voice and data but it wasn't(at least at that time) using LTE for voice calls. Just for data while a CDMA call was active. I guess it works differently for GSM?
Just to clarify, I'm not trying to make a voice call using LTE(which is what "Voice over LTE" means). Just trying to use LTE data while on a non-LTE voice call.
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In any case in order to stay on LTE and use data, your phone has to support VoLTE, because normal LTE is data only and when you make a call it would drop to 3 or 4G. CDMA and GSM are 2 different type of networks. I was always using GSM providers(T-Mobile in my case) and this is how it works. I don't know how your old phone could let you be on LTE during a call - unless AT&T was using some proprietary service.
Charkatak said:
...because normal LTE is data only...
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That totally makes sense. I'm fine with that.
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....and when you make a call it would drop to 3 or 4G.
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Thats weird.
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...I don't know how your old phone could let you be on LTE during a call - unless AT&T was using some proprietary service.
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Yeah, if that's how LTE data works then AT&T must have had something special.
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Yeah, if that's how LTE data works then AT&T must have had something special.
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Early on, phones had a separate 3G radio from their LTE radio. This is a big part of why the first LTE phones had substantial battery drain issues compared to 3G only phones at the same time. One of the nice things about the setup was that you could use 3G for voice and LTE for data simultaneously. With the move to integrated modems, which significantly improved battery life and speed, that feature was lost. Until AT&T implements a standard for VOLTE like T-Mobile has you're going to have to deal with the lower speeds while on a call.
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Early on, phones had a separate 3G radio from their LTE radio. This is a big part of why the first LTE phones had substantial battery drain issues compared to 3G only phones at the same time. One of the nice things about the setup was that you could use 3G for voice and LTE for data simultaneously. With the move to integrated modems, which significantly improved battery life and speed, that feature was lost. Until AT&T implements a standard for VOLTE like T-Mobile has you're going to have to deal with the lower speeds while on a call.
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OK that explains it. The Galaxy S2 Skyrocket was the first AT&T LTE phone so it probably had separate radios. I'm also kind of concerned with what VoLTE will do to battery life. I remember that one of the ways phone matters were reducing battery drain was to keep the radio asleep unless it was asleep. With VoLTE the LTE radio would have to be active all the time. Has the energy efficiency of newer LTE radios made that a non-issue? How is battery life on T-Mobile vs AT&T using the same phone under similar conditions?
Can this phone run on Sprint network and do VOICE & DATA Simultaneously? like a Note 3 with dual antenna?
I know for a fact the S7 edge does not.
I do not think so
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not sure which phones you were using before.
But since Galaxy S2, Note 2, Note 3 and beyond I've been able to browse the net, and Talk on the phone at the same time, as I needed to look up information while I was on the phone with customer service asking me for account information to verify my Identity, etc, etc...
So I'm pretty sure you can go Online, and Talk on the phone at the same time.
This even work back in the first Galaxy 1, Nexus S but those phones were so slow...
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not sure which phones you were using before.
But since Galaxy S2, Note 2, Note 3 and beyond I've been able to browse the net, and Talk on the phone at the same time, as I needed to look up information while I was on the phone with customer service asking me for account information to verify my Identity, etc, etc...
So I'm pretty sure you can go Online, and Talk on the phone at the same time.
This even work back in the first Galaxy 1, Nexus S but those phones were so slow...
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I just returned and S7 Edge with sprint service, I was replacing my note 3. The S7 Edge cannot do data and voice at the same time. say you have waze on and a phone call comes in. now you are talking on the phone and yo want to alert drivers of a policeman...guess what S7 no cant do. So I am trying to replaced my note but non of the current samsung phones ON SPRINT NETWORK can do that. The reason why the NOTE 3 can do it its because of the number of antennas it has in it hence the ability to use data and voice at the same time.
Until Sprint goes to VoLTe please keep your eyes on the road....geez.
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Itchiee said:
Until Sprint goes to VoLTe please keep your eyes on the road....geez.
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Do you know of any recent phone with a cdma antenna like the note 3
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Tungsten c said:
I just returned and S7 Edge with sprint service, I was replacing my note 3. The S7 Edge cannot do data and voice at the same time. say you have waze on and a phone call comes in. now you are talking on the phone and yo want to alert drivers of a policeman...guess what S7 no cant do. So I am trying to replaced my note but non of the current samsung phones ON SPRINT NETWORK can do that. The reason why the NOTE 3 can do it its because of the number of antennas it has in it hence the ability to use data and voice at the same time.
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It is not your phone's fault. Your network does not support calls and data at the same time.
Even Note 4 can use LTE data and VoLTE calls at the same time. Mine does.
sourabh.note said:
It is not your phone's fault. Your network does not support calls and data at the same time.
Even Note 4 can use LTE data and VoLTE calls at the same time. Mine does.
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Yes and no. SAMSUNG removed the CDMA antenna from the phone (note 3) has one. They knew or should had known that by doing that the phones on sprint network will not be able to do call and data simultaneously . The note 3 has the two antennas and that is why I am able to do that at this very moment on the sprint network. So basically they are selling you a phone with less capabilities than the replacement and they call it an upgrade go figure. They ahould had waited untill the networks catch up. On a second note veriOn supports VOLTE but at an extra cost. So the consumer pays premium for a phone upgrade and then pays again to have the same service as I do now with a note 3. We are really getting upgraded aren't we?
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Yes and no. SAMSUNG removed the CDMA antenna from the phone (note 3) has one. They knew or should had known that by doing that the phones on sprint network will not be able to do call and data simultaneously . The note 3 has the two antennas and that is why I am able to do that at this very moment on the sprint network.
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Oh, didn't know that. That must be a bummer for those who want to, but can't use voice and data simultaneously.
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Do you know of any recent phone with a cdma antenna like the note 3
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Unfortunately all new phones have one antenna which increases battery life but doesn't allow call/internet simultaneously. Sprint will be moving to voLTE once they get their LTE everywhere they can. Most people don't need this capability and there are workarounds using google voice to make calls. It doesn't bother me to not have since i don't usually use minutes. I can always look up whatever I need when I'm free again.
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Unfortunately all new phones have one antenna which increases battery life but doesn't allow call/internet simultaneously. Sprint will be moving to voLTE once they get their LTE everywhere they can. Most people don't need this capability and there are workarounds using google voice to make calls. It doesn't bother me to not have since i don't usually use minutes. I can always look up whatever I need when I'm free again.
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How do you use google voice and ia it effective
How do you use google voice ? And is it effective
Install Hangouts and Hangout Dialer and you are set
That is how I solve the stupid problem Sprint created by combining all in 1 antenna
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I have note 5 with Sprint and since I upgraded my phone from Lollipop to Marshmallow and I'm able to do both calling and browsing at the same time when I have 4G(lte) network, but when I have 3G network, I can't do that.
mxmarcus said:
Install Hangouts and Hangout Dialer and you are set
That is how I solve the stupid problem Sprint created by combining all in 1 antenna
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Thanks will try that.