Installing OTA - noob questions - One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm on stock 1.54.401.10, rooted, s-off and with twrp.
I'd like to go to stock recovery to install OTA.
Need answers for some questions first:
What do I need to install update?
I know about recovery, do I need to relock bootloader?
Also there was an issue with custom hboots on m7, so can I relock bootloader, update software, etc, if I don't have red text during boot? Gone after using firewater.
Not sure if this is related, just want to be sure, I won't brick my phone during update.
Or maybe it is better to flash firmware and newer rom manually?

wor3q said:
I'm on stock 1.54.401.10, rooted, s-off and with twrp.
I'd like to go to stock recovery to install OTA.
Need answers for some questions first:
What do I need to install update?
I know about recovery, do I need to relock bootloader?
Also there was an issue with custom hboots on m7, so can I relock bootloader, update software, etc, if I don't have red text during boot? Gone after using firewater.
Not sure if this is related, just want to be sure, I won't brick my phone during update.
Or maybe it is better to flash firmware and newer rom manually?
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With stock recovery and stock rom you can install official updatea, no need for relocking bootloader.
Because you're s-off you can also do it manually, see this post.

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[Q] OTA after flashing interim CWM

Hi,
first, my former device was a Samsung Galaxy S and i'm quite familiar with flashing ROMs and such on that device. The HTC One X is my first HTC device so i'm new in flashing and HTCs.
I used the method described in the below thread to flash CWM to my HTC One X
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1579797
My question now is this, can i receive OTAs with CWM flashed on my device? It is implied in the thread that i need the stock recovery to do so.
There is a stock recovery image supplied in this thread. Can i flash it to any strock ROM version or do i need the specific one for my ROM version and if so where can i get this version?
In order to flash CWM i had to unlock the bootloader, do i need to revert this for OTAs?
Thanks for your answers.
Hey,
with Clockworkmod flashed, you cant install OTA updates, you have to flash stock recovery and relock your bootloader.
If you have a custom rom, you have to install Stock RUU to recieve and install OTAs.
Greetz SoLdieR9312
You need stock rom and stock recovery. If your stock rom is just rooted, that's fine, but if you deleted system apps or modded, it might not work.
To install stock recovery you need to be unlocked, but unless you relocked, you're good to go.
You don't need to relock to install OTA.
To install RUU, you need to be relocked, but you don't need to install the stock recovery.
Edit: Urgh, that was quite a bump from the guy above. But the correction is still useful.

[Q] Update to newest official firmware on custom rom.

My M8 is flashed with Viper 1.6. I however wish to use latest firmware from the official OTA update, to get the newest radio etc. I am however unable to flash this.
I flashed the stock recovery, however the update does not succeed via fastboot. Error 99 something.
Are you able to guide me how to do this update. Is it at all possible, when not running a stock rom?
I would like to avoid going back to stock, to be able to do this, unless necessary, but I do not know if this is possible.
My former phone was a Samsung Note, where I was able to flash about everything with the Odin Flash utility. Is it simply because I am S-ON This causes problems?
In the Viper thread this has been asked, but no clear answers are given, as it is not viper specific.
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sblop said:
My M8 is flashed with Viper 1.6. I however wish to use latest firmware from the official OTA update, to get the newest radio etc. I am however unable to flash this.
I flashed the stock recovery, however the update does not succeed via fastboot. Error 99 something.
Are you able to guide me how to do this update. Is it at all possible, when not running a stock rom?
I would like to avoid going back to stock, to be able to do this, unless necessary, but I do not know if this is possible.
My former phone was a Samsung Note, where I was able to flash about everything with the Odin Flash utility. Is it simply because I am S-ON This causes problems?
In the Viper thread this has been asked, but no clear answers are given, as it is not viper specific.
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First of all make it clear what you want to do.If you want to do OTA of viper from 1.6 to 1.7 you must have a custom recovery like twrp then go to settings->about->software updates.If you want to get official HTC's OTA then you have to be on Stock.you sshould follow this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2735235
sblop said:
My M8 is flashed with Viper 1.6. I however wish to use latest firmware from the official OTA update, to get the newest radio etc. I am however unable to flash this.
I flashed the stock recovery, however the update does not succeed via fastboot. Error 99 something.
Are you able to guide me how to do this update. Is it at all possible, when not running a stock rom?
I would like to avoid going back to stock, to be able to do this, unless necessary, but I do not know if this is possible.
My former phone was a Samsung Note, where I was able to flash about everything with the Odin Flash utility. Is it simply because I am S-ON This causes problems?
In the Viper thread this has been asked, but no clear answers are given, as it is not viper specific.
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You need to be S-OFF to flash firmware. You would need to go back to stock and apply the OTA, however, you can flash the radio while S-ON.
Thanks for your replies.
I of cause know I am unable to directly install the OTA.
I am interested in the radio and other relevant parts of the OTA.
Is the best solution to revert to a locked bootloader/Stock recovery, and simply update?
The radio itself I assume I can flash with fastboot. (fastboot flash radio radio.img)
The firmware however also contains the following files
Boot.img
Hboot
Radio
RCData
Recovery.
I am unaware what RC data is? Recovery is not relevant. Hboot, I assume an older version is better, in case a weakness is found in the old version, leaving boot and radio. Would you update boot? Do I gain anything at all? If yes, I assume I can use this command? (fastboot flash boot boot.img). Or am I restricted flashing the boot, as long as I am S-on?
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Updating Hboot bootloader

Ive been trying to research how to update my bootloader version but i've been failing miserably. I currently have 3.16 and ive been trying to flash a few roms that wont let me since its too old. I'm rooted but i have s-on. Help?
Ever try just doing the OTA updates?
From where? I'm on ReNovate 4.5 and i dont see any options under settings.
alex5857 said:
From where? I'm on ReNovate 4.5 and i dont see any options under settings.
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For official OTAs, you need to return to stock ROM and stock recovery. Then you should be able to update by OTA, which will also update hboot.
redpoint73 said:
For official OTAs, you need to return to stock ROM and stock recovery. Then you should be able to update by OTA, which will also update hboot.
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So then i just need to download a stock rom from here and run the OTA? Would that come with the stock recovery? Is there a way to do it without having to do that?
Thanks for the help!
alex5857 said:
So then i just need to download a stock rom from here and run the OTA? Would that come with the stock recovery?
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No, you need to flash the stock recovery seperately. Get your stock ROM and recovery for your CID at the following thread (includes detailed instructions):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701376
alex5857 said:
Is there a way to do it without having to do that?
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Another way to run the OTAs? For the most part NO. The exception being some US variants, where you can relock the bootloader and update by RUU. Otherwise, for non-US versions:
You need the stock ROM, otherwise the OTA will fail when it sees the /system (ROM) files have been modified from "stock".
You need the stock recovery, since this is required to actually install the OTA. Without the stock recovery, the OTA will attempt to install, fail, and you will be stuck in a bootloop as the phone keeps trying to reboot into stock recovery.
Unless you mean, is there another way to update hboot. The only other way would be to s-off the device by sunshine.

[Q] back to stock

Yes i read threads over going back to stock but my question is a little bit different
I got a dutch T-mobile branded M8 after i did my first root i made a a backup from my phone with TWRP.
i can't get S-OFF, so my phone is still S-ON!
Now i got the problem that my HBOOT isn't updated since, this is giving me problems with newer versions of TWRP and so for CM12.
My thoughts were:
- flash my backup to my phone
- ? 1
- ? 2
- update it regulary via ota updates (guess my phone is updated to the latest hboot)
- Root my phone
- install any new rom
Frist my questons are for the questionmarks in my steps:
? 1: Should i un-root and relock my bootloader?
? 2: Anythinge else i missed?
Thanks in advance
samstar said:
i can't get S-OFF, so my phone is still S-ON!
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You can't s-off, since sunshine says your phone is not supported? Or you don't want to pay for sunshine?
samstar said:
Frist my questons are for the questionmarks in my steps:
? 1: Should i un-root and relock my bootloader?
? 2: Anythinge else i missed?
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1) No need to unroot or relock bootloader. But no system files can be modified in order to OTA. If you made the nandroid right after installing TWRP and root, without any other mods, you should be OK.
2) You also need to flash stock recovery to install OTA
redpoint73 said:
You can't s-off, since sunshine says your phone is not supported? Or you don't want to pay for sunshine?
1) No need to unroot or relock bootloader. But no system files can be modified in order to OTA. If you made the nandroid right after installing TWRP and root, without any other mods, you should be OK.
2) You also need to flash stock recovery to install OTA
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Don't want to pay for sunshine, don't see the importance, just want to **** around with custom roms, never has been a great difference for me.
but the stock recovery, how do i get it? i donloaded one from a thread but just want to be sure it's alright
samstar said:
Don't want to pay for sunshine, don't see the importance, just want to **** around with custom roms, never has been a great difference for me.
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If you want s-off, pay for it. Otherwise, don't. And I agree that if the goal is merely to update firmware, you don't need s-off in your case. As for the importance, s-off allows a number of things, including being able to flash radios, modified hboots, and unlock SIM. These may not be relevant or needed by you.
But to say you can't s-off is not correct. You just don't want to. When asking for help, its best to provide the most complete and correct information.
samstar said:
but the stock recovery, how do i get it? i donloaded one from a thread but just want to be sure it's alright
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Download the stock recovery corresponding to your stock software number from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701376

[Q] Root without custom recovery?

I would like to root my HTC One M9 without installing TWRP or another custom recovery so that I can easily unroot and then take OTA updates. I have a developer M9 so my bootloader is already unlocked. I will eventually flash custom ROMs but at the moment, the stock firmware with Sense 7 is more than sufficient for me. Can anyone shed some light? I did find this http://www.how-to-root.club/2015/03/htc-one-m9-6891.html but I'm not sure how reliable it is since there's only a few comments.
theloneranger08 said:
I would like to root my HTC One M9 without installing TWRP or another custom recovery so that I can easily unroot and then take OTA updates. I have a developer M9 so my bootloader is already unlocked. I will eventually flash custom ROMs but at the moment, the stock firmware with Sense 7 is more than sufficient for me. Can anyone shed some light? I did find this http://www.how-to-root.club/2015/03/htc-one-m9-6891.html but I'm not sure how reliable it is since there's only a few comments.
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"I could be wrong here and let me know if I am" it doesn't work that way with the m9. That site is bogus anyways, could you not tell by the video? Anyhow, even if you where to root it, there is no way to "simply" unroot it and take ota. There is new security on the m9 dealing with updates. Ota will not work if your software is or has been modified in any way, or if you have super cid. The common way for people to get OTA with the m9 is flash twrp, make a backup BEFORE rooting, flash newest supersu beta inside twrp, profit. When ota comes, go back to twrp, restore non rooted backup, flash stock recovery, take ota. IMO this is all a waste of time with an htc, just bite the bullet and spend $25 on soff and you don't have to worry about ota, you can flash firmware all day long before htc even releases it. Just flash a stock rooted rom like maximus if you don't want a lot of tweaks.
Your boot loader will say modified after flashing twrp, and will still say modified after restoring back to your stock backup. The "modified" boot loader does not affect ota, but if it annoys you like it does me, the only way to get rid of it at this time is to have soff and flash stock RUU in exe or sdcard mode. fastboot oem rebootRUU will not remove boot loader modified
edit.. there is now a way to remove modified status without flashing rom
an0ther said:
"I could be wrong here and let me know if I am" it doesn't work that way with the m9. That site is bogus anyways, could you not tell by the video? Anyhow, even if you where to root it, there is no way to "simply" unroot it and take ota. There is new security on the m9 dealing with updates. Ota will not work if your software is or has been modified in any way, or if you have super cid. The common way for people to get OTA with the m9 is flash twrp, make a backup BEFORE rooting, flash newest supersu beta inside twrp, profit. When ota comes, go back to twrp, restore non rooted backup, flash stock recovery, take ota. IMO this is all a waste of time with an htc, just bite the bullet and spend $25 on soff and you don't have to worry about ota, you can flash firmware all day long before htc even releases it. Just flash a stock rooted rom like maximus if you don't want a lot of tweaks.
Your boot loader will say modified after flashing twrp, and will still say modified after restoring back to your stock backup. The "modified" boot loader does not affect ota, but if it annoys you like it does me, the only way to get rid of it at this time is to have soff and flash stock RUU in exe or sdcard mode. fastboot oem rebootRUU will not remove boot loader modified
edit.. there is now a way to remove modified status without flashing rom
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Thanks for all of the info. I wish simply rooting your phone wasn't such a pain. I guess I'll just flash TWRP, make a backup of my phone, and then root it and then if I need to do an OTA I can just restore the backup and flash the stock recovery. I found this download site for the recovery. I'm assuming I'd pick developer and then recovery. Do I use the signed one? What happens if I flash the wrong recovery? https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=28830
Also, if I S OFF you said I can install OTA updates? So I can install them even if I have a custom recovery and root access?
theloneranger08 said:
Also, if I S OFF you said I can install OTA updates? So I can install them even if I have a custom recovery and root access?
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Not ota, but you can flash firmware without doing anything. So you run a stockish rom like maximus and he releases his own OTA's, then you can flash official firmware to keep up with it, and if you get tired of that method, you can always ruu and go back to completely stock.
an0ther said:
Not ota, but you can flash firmware without doing anything. So you run a stockish rom like maximus and he releases his own OTA's, then you can flash official firmware to keep up with it, and if you get tired of that method, you can always ruu and go back to completely stock.
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So I bit the bullet and installed TWRP, did a Nandroid backup, and then rooted my phone. Now I'm trying to determine whether I want to S-Off my phone. I know that I'd need to RUU and return to stock to flash firmware if I'm S-On, but if I flash a rom that is continually updated, then will I miss any of the features of new firmware released by HTC? I guess my question is, if a dev. updates a rom to reflect the newest firmware from HTC, how does that actually work because from what I've read, it doesn't actually touch the firmware of the phone? So would there be things that HTC can improve that the rom cannot?
theloneranger08 said:
So I bit the bullet and installed TWRP, did a Nandroid backup, and then rooted my phone. Now I'm trying to determine whether I want to S-Off my phone. I know that I'd need to RUU and return to stock to flash firmware if I'm S-On, but if I flash a rom that is continually updated, then will I miss any of the features of new firmware released by HTC? I guess my question is, if a dev. updates a rom to reflect the newest firmware from HTC, how does that actually work because from what I've read, it doesn't actually touch the firmware of the phone? So would there be things that HTC can improve that the rom cannot?
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Correct. Roms do not upgrade firmware. In the future you will need to upgrade firmware when wifi/camera/touchscreen/etc improvements are implemented into firmware. Having soff, you can simply flash just the firmware and not worry about software. Without soff, you have to revert back to stock and take ota or use new firmware RUU. Soff is a must on HTC and is honestly the only reason I didn't buy an s6. Ive had the m7/m8/m9 and the flexibility of rooting and firmware etc is unlike any other.
an0ther said:
Correct. Roms do not upgrade firmware. In the future you will need to upgrade firmware when wifi/camera/touchscreen/etc improvements are implemented into firmware. Having soff, you can simply flash just the firmware and not worry about software. Without soff, you have to revert back to stock and take ota or use new firmware RUU. Soff is a must on HTC and is honestly the only reason I didn't buy an s6. Ive had the m7/m8/m9 and the flexibility of rooting and firmware etc is unlike any other.
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Ok great and I can flash firmware regardless of what rom I'm running?
theloneranger08 said:
Ok great and I can flash firmware regardless of what rom I'm running?
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Correct. It doesn't have to be a perfect match, just in the same base. Right now your current firmware is fine, but most people swap to the newest developer with no red text. If you are new to htc and flashing firmware read instructions carefully or ask me. You need super cid or matching cid to flash firmware that isn't supported by your carrier variant. Everyone has to learn and these phones are near impossible to hard brick as long as you can read. Never flash cdma firmware on gsm phone, never run ruu for your phone if MID doesn't match, never turn s-on back on, but if you have to make sure you are NOT super cid or have unsigned firmware "no red text firmware" Never ever ever unzip a signed firmware file and edit it and zip it back up to flash unless you decrypt it and know what you are doing. Get an 32 gig or less sd card. Feel free to ask me any questions.
an0ther said:
Correct. It doesn't have to be a perfect match, just in the same base. Right now your current firmware is fine, but most people swap to the newest developer with no red text. If you are new to htc and flashing firmware read instructions carefully or ask me. You need super cid or matching cid to flash firmware that isn't supported by your carrier variant. Everyone has to learn and these phones are near impossible to hard brick as long as you can read. Never flash cdma firmware on gsm phone, never run ruu for your phone if MID doesn't match, never turn s-on back on, but if you have to make sure you are NOT super cid or have unsigned firmware "no red text firmware" Never ever ever unzip a signed firmware file and edit it and zip it back up to flash unless you decrypt it and know what you are doing. Get an 32 gig or less sd card. Feel free to ask me any questions.
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Awesome, thanks I really appreciate it. I'll definitely let you know if I have any questions.
theloneranger08 said:
So I bit the bullet and installed TWRP, did a Nandroid backup, and then rooted my phone. Now I'm trying to determine whether I want to S-Off my phone. I know that I'd need to RUU and return to stock to flash firmware if I'm S-On, but if I flash a rom that is continually updated, then will I miss any of the features of new firmware released by HTC? I guess my question is, if a dev. updates a rom to reflect the newest firmware from HTC, how does that actually work because from what I've read, it doesn't actually touch the firmware of the phone? So would there be things that HTC can improve that the rom cannot?
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Check it out this http://www.bestandroidrootedapps.com/how-to-root-htc-one-m9-and-also-have-custom-recovery-installed-on-it/

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