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OK so I am going to have to return my pixel xl for a factory refurbished due to hardware issues with the camera flash. How do I relock the bootloader before taking it back?
Fastboot flashing lock? Or oem lock?
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oneandroidnut said:
Fastboot flashing lock? Or oem lock?
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It's that simple? Just run the fast lock command?
shibbnasty said:
It's that simple? Just run the fast lock command?
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I think lol it's been awhile since I locked a phone
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oneandroidnut said:
I think lol it's been awhile since I locked a phone
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I guess I should have mentioned as well it's a Verizon pixel xl and I had to use depixel8 to unlock it
shibbnasty said:
OK so I am going to have to return my pixel xl for a factory refurbished due to hardware issues with the camera flash. How do I relock the bootloader before taking it back?
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You better be absolutely sure that your device is completely stock before relocking the bootloader. Once you are sure, boot into the bootloader and type, fastboot OEM lock
lyall29 said:
You better be absolutely sure that your device is completely stock before relocking the bootloader. Once you are sure, boot into the bootloader and type, fastboot OEM lock
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All I have done is unlock it. I have not flashed any kernels or mods or anything.
shibbnasty said:
All I have done is unlock it. I have not flashed any kernels or mods or anything.
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Ok then. You should be fine. fastboot OEM lock will lock your bootloader and wipe your data at the same time.
lyall29 said:
Ok then. You should be fine. fastboot OEM lock will lock your bootloader and wipe your data at the same time.
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Thank you very much!
@shibbnasty. Actually, relocking the bootloader may not wipe data. I can't remember. Let me know if it does or not.
Yes it does.
Rank N00b here... just getting that out of the way.
Device: Verizon Pixel XL
Build: NDE63X
Bootloader: unlocked via dePixel8 (done after Nov update)
So the phone is stock and I'm not really keen on modding right now. I don't want to use a alpha build of TWRP and SuperSU seems to be in flux too. These aren't criticisms by the way; I realize this a very new handset and those kinds of tools take time to develop. Nothing happens overnight.
So, anyway, my phone is currently unlocked and I'm wondering if I'm not better off relocking it? As a stock unit, it should still get OTA's, right? Like I said, total n00b here...
@loaba,
There's absolutely no reason to relock your bootloader, unless you are annoyed by the Google bootloader unlock warning during boot, or if you are planning on returning it or selling it. Otherwise, leave it unlocked. Gives you much greater flexibility to recover if something goes wrong.
@cam30era,
Thanks for the reassurance.
loaba said:
@cam30era,
Thanks for the reassurance.
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Also, Verizon may remove unlock ability via dePixel8 in their December update.
If that happens, you might have to wait awhile to get Unlock on a VZN Pixel again.
michaelbsheldon said:
Also, Verizon may remove unlock ability via dePixel8 in their December update.
If that happens, you might have to wait awhile to get Unlock on a VZN Pixel again.
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So if I want to maintain an unlocked device I need to act now... Guess I'll see which comes first - the possibly debilitating Dec update or a stable TWRP build (and a correspondingly stable custom ROM).
loaba said:
So if I want to maintain an unlocked device I need to act now... Guess I'll see which comes first - the possibly debilitating Dec update or a stable TWRP build (and a correspondingly stable custom ROM).
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Yep, do nothing and stay unlocked. You will still receive VZN OTA's and stay up to date as long as you do not install a custom recovery or kernel.
AND since you've remained unlocked, when the time comes that you do want a custom kernel or recovery, you can get them.
If it gets messed up somehow, you can do a clean RUU install as if nothing happened. If it's locked, you can't do that as easily.
michaelbsheldon said:
Yep, do nothing and stay unlocked. You will still receive VZN OTA's and stay up to date as long as you do not install a custom recovery or kernel.
AND since you've remained unlocked, when the time comes that you do want a custom kernel or recovery, you can get them.
If it gets messed up somehow, you can do a clean RUU install as if nothing happened. If it's locked, you can't do that as easily.
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About the OTA's - that was my big concern for now. Cool.
OP - thread derailed... sorry, man.
You cannot use Android pay on an unlocked phone. Unless there is a workaround.
Khanusma said:
You cannot use Android pay on an unlocked phone. Unless there is a workaround.
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Most of the custom kernels fix that. Root is the hard one to hide.
is it necessary to unlock the bootloader to convert the unlocked version to Verizon with volte
can I only s-off, I am running 6..01 android
while keeping the bootloader locked, can I also reverse to stock later
Thank you very much
ahgahg said:
is it necessary to unlock the bootloader to convert the unlocked version to Verizon with volte
can I only s-off, I am running 6..01 android
while keeping the bootloader locked, can I also reverse to stock later
Thank you very much
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No need to unlock bootloader. Sunshine has the option to keep bootloader locked and s-off. Since you're on Android 6, Sunshine will temproot your phone and set it to s-off without unlocking your bootloader
donkeykong1 said:
No need to unlock bootloader. Sunshine has the option to keep bootloader locked and s-off. Since you're on Android 6, Sunshine will temproot your phone and set it to s-off without unlocking your bootloader
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Thank you for answering
I have another quick question.
How do you unroot the phone without leaving a trace of root?
ahgahg said:
Thank you for answering
I have another quick question.
How do you unroot the phone without leaving a trace of root?
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Flash a RUU. Easy as that [emoji6]
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Flash a RUU. Easy as that [emoji6]
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Many Thanks to you,
I figured it might leave a trace , it happened with Samsung S4 active, where resetting the phone did not get of the root, factory reset, I can't seem to remember if I put the new odin
ahgahg said:
Many Thanks to you,
I figured it might leave a trace , it happened with Samsung S4 active, where resetting the phone did not get of the root, factory reset, I can't seem to remember if I put the new odin
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HTC is better than Samsung in that regard too [emoji1]
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HTC is better than Samsung in that regard too [emoji1]
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How can I create backup or mirror mage of everything before making changes
ahgahg said:
How can I create backup or mirror mage of everything before making changes
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Well, you need custom recovery to make a backup. I really can't remember if Sunshine delets everything on your phone or not. I would advise you to look up Sunshine s-off for clarification on that. If it doesn't, you're good to go. Just install TWRP, and backup everything
If I Factory reset a carrier unlocked t-mobile S8+, will I have to unlock it again? Does factory resetting affect the carrier lock?
r_BG said:
If I Factory reset a carrier unlocked t-mobile S8+, will I have to unlock it again? Does factory resetting affect the carrier lock?
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no, if u permanently unlocked it, it is forever unlocked on that motherboard...
mdiaz33685 said:
no, if u permanently unlocked it, it is forever unlocked on that motherboard...
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Thanks
If you have no plans to root the phone is there any reason to unlock the bootloader?
It would probably break Safety net and Android pay. BUT if you're unlocked, you have ability to flash factory images. That could be beneficial something goes really bad and your device won't boot up. You're also less secure with it unlocked.
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You can always lock and unlock the bootloader when you want.
I would say you should at least have the option checked on in the Developer settings.
So just in case something happened and you can't fully boot the phone. you can still get into it and unlock the bootloader and do what you need to do.
This happened to a friend of mine where something happened and couldn't fully boot and couldn't unlock bootloader cause the option was never checked.
I don't believe the unlock option stays enabled after it boots up.
I would argue why WOULDN'T you unlock the bootloader? Regardless of rooting, an unlocked bootloader is a safety net for when things go south. Phone decides to bootloop tomorrow? No big deal, flash the latest images via fastboot and start from scratch.
Sure there's the counter argument of the phone being much less secure and vulnerable in the hands of a person who is tech savvy and stole/found your device. I'm not worried about my phone being stolen so I ALWAYS unlock my bootloader.
Pain-N-Panic said:
I would argue why WOULDN'T you unlock the bootloader? Regardless of rooting, an unlocked bootloader is a safety net for when things go south. Phone decides to bootloop tomorrow? No big deal, flash the latest images via fastboot and start from scratch.
Sure there's the counter argument of the phone being much less secure and vulnerable in the hands of a person who is tech savvy and stole/found your device. I'm not worried about my phone being stolen so I ALWAYS unlock my bootloader.
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or just flash the full OTA image without an unlocked bootloader.
mngdew said:
You can always lock and unlock the bootloader when you want.
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Does re-locking the bootloader wipe the phone?
foosion said:
Does re-locking the bootloader wipe the phone?
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Yes, it does. That's why you should unlock or lock the bootloader when flashing factory images.
mngdew said:
Yes, it does.
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Thanks
mngdew said:
That's why you should unlock or lock the bootloader when flashing factory images.
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I don't understand what you mean by this.
You have to unlock the bootloader to flash a factory image and you can eliminate the w flag so that flashing the factory image won't wipe the phone.
uicnren said:
or just flash the full OTA image without an unlocked bootloader.
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Very true. If the phone goes into booploop due to a bad zip or whatever other reason you have a bricked device with no options to recover.
It's healthy for me to unlock my Bootloader ASAP on XDA!
Unlocking the bootloader was always the very first thing I did when I got a new phone. However, I use Android Pay all the time, and Google seems very determined to break AP for unlocked bootloaders with every new patch. Sure, someone usually finds a way to get it working again, but that sometimes takes time, and I simply use AP too much to deal with it. As long as AP won't work officially with an unlocked bootloader, mine stays locked unless I'm flashing an image, and even then, gets locked right after. Luckily, OTAs are posted by Google now, often at the same time as the Factory Images, so it hasn't really been an issue for me.
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It would probably break Safety net and Android pay. BUT if you're unlocked, you have ability to flash factory images. That could be beneficial something goes really bad and your device won't boot up. You're also less secure with it unlocked.
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Thank you what actually is compromised when phone is unlocked?
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or just flash the full OTA image without an unlocked bootloader.
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How can you flash with a locked bootloader?
painfree said:
Thank you what actually is compromised when phone is unlocked?
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Data?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ho...unlocking-your-android-phones-bootloader/amp/
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If you have no plans to root the phone is there any reason to unlock the bootloader?
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If you ever contemplate going onto the Verizon network, when you first boot up after placing VZN sim into the phone,
the ability to ever unlock again is eliminated. You could relock it, but it will have the Unlock option in Developer
Option greyed out forever after that. I would unlock it maybe because of Verizon thing, but also to be able to flash factory a image in case I ever mess up the phone.
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If you ever contemplate going onto the Verizon network, when you first boot up after placing VZN sim into the phone,
the ability to ever unlock again is eliminated. You could relock it, but it will have the Unlock option in Developer
Option greyed out forever after that. I would unlock it maybe because of Verizon thing, but also to be able to flash factory a image in case I ever mess up the phone.
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As long as you have the Google version it should never grey out on you at least that's how it was with the first pixels. I have Verizon I've never had it grey out.
jt3 said:
Unlocking the bootloader was always the very first thing I did when I got a new phone. However, I use Android Pay all the time, and Google seems very determined to break AP for unlocked bootloaders with every new patch. Sure, someone usually finds a way to get it working again, but that sometimes takes time, and I simply use AP too much to deal with it. As long as AP won't work officially with an unlocked bootloader, mine stays locked unless I'm flashing an image, and even then, gets locked right after. Luckily, OTAs are posted by Google now, often at the same time as the Factory Images, so it hasn't really been an issue for me.
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This. Android Pay is pretty convenient and I always told myself I didn't need it compared to unlock+root. Wish Google would allow AP with unlocked bootloader but I can understand why they don't from a security standpoint.
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foosion said:
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I don't understand what you mean by this.
You have to unlock the bootloader to flash a factory image and you can eliminate the w flag so that flashing the factory image won't wipe the phone.
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When you unlock the bootloader, phone is wiped automatically.
I bought my Pixel 2 XL from Google and I know they have a 15 day return policy but I don't know if unlocking the bootloader voids that. Can I re-lock the bootloader? Has anybody else returned their phone to Google?
enginuity2 said:
I bought my Pixel 2 XL from Google and I know they have a 15 day return policy but I don't know if unlocking the bootloader voids that. Can I re-lock the bootloader? Has anybody else returned their phone to Google?
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Fastboot flashing lock.
toknitup420 said:
Fastboot flashing lock.
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does this work? anyone tried?
mgear356 said:
does this work? anyone tried?
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LOL of course it works, the command is directly from Google.
That easy! Here are the instructions from Google:
https://developers.google.com/android/images
Tells you the commands to unlock, flash stock rom and re-lock the bootloader...
This ain't no iPhone, son! Lol
You are allowed to do this stuff. All of the software to lock and unlock are provided by Google...
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slaydog said:
That easy! Here are the instructions from Google:
https://developers.google.com/android/images
Tells you the commands to unlock, flash stock rom and re-lock the bootloader...
This ain't no iPhone, son! Lol
You are allowed to do this stuff. All of the software to lock and unlock are provided by Google...
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Cheers mate.. Was worried as my last phone was 6p.
My first pixel lol..
If I'm rooted can I just relock the bootloader and it will wipe the system or do I need to flash stock from google's website then relock if I want to return it?
vibrantliker said:
If I'm rooted can I just relock the bootloader and it will wipe the system or do I need to flash stock from google's website then relock if I want to return it?
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Why you returning the phone in the first place?
Jiggs82 said:
Why you returning the phone in the first place?
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Returning it to Google and re buying elsewhere for at least $200 less.
vibrantliker said:
If I'm rooted can I just relock the bootloader and it will wipe the system or do I need to flash stock from google's website then relock if I want to return it?
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when you lock or unlock, it wipes the phone.
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when you lock or unlock, it wipes the phone.
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Just that I read in a couple of places when re locking some have had a "no os installed" result.
enginuity2 said:
I bought my Pixel 2 XL from Google and I know they have a 15 day return policy but I don't know if unlocking the bootloader voids that. Can I re-lock the bootloader? Has anybody else returned their phone to Google?
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You don't need to lock bootloader to return..I returned multiple devices without locking
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Just that I read in a couple of places when re locking some have had a "no os installed" result.
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simply flash both partitions first then.
Just wipe it and ship it. Google will only inspect it for physical abuse and water damage. The don't care if it's unlocked. It Google, the sell us unlocked phones. I too have sent them back unlocked as have many others.
I just flashed the latest factory image then did a factory reset before I was going to re lock the bootloader. Now the oem unlock option on my phone is greyed out and adb/fastboot fives me errors trying to fastboot oem lock or fastboot flashing lock.
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I just flashed the latest factory image then did a factory reset before I was going to re lock the bootloader. Now the oem unlock option on my phone is greyed out and adb/fastboot fives me errors trying to fastboot oem lock or fastboot flashing lock.
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The slider will stay gray until the fastboot commands relock it. What are the errors you are getting. Exact wording please.
Really, just ship it as is.
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The slider will stay gray until the fastboot commands relock it. What are the errors you are getting. Exact wording please.
Really, just ship it as is.
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I'll try again tomorrow and get back.
You said earlier they just check for physical damage. Don't they turn on the phone?
They shouldn't care when the locked boot loader screen shows at boot?
vibrantliker said:
I'll try again tomorrow and get back.
You said earlier they just check for physical damage. Don't they turn on the phone?
They shouldn't care when the locked boot loader screen shows at boot?
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I sent one back with the bootloader unlocked they don't care. I'd make damn sure it's completely stock before you relock it maybe Flash the factory image to both slots just to be sure.
mac796 said:
I sent one back with the bootloader unlocked they don't care. I'd make damn sure it's completely stock before you relock it maybe Flash the factory image to both slots just to be sure.
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It is completely stock, but what does that mean
"Flash the image to both slots"?
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It is completely stock, but what does that mean
"Flash the image to both slots"?
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Go to Google's factory image page download January's image and do the flash all to slot a. Then change to slot B.
Fastboot --set-active=b then flash all to slot B. Probably Overkill but you'll for sure be stock. Then issue you're relock command to both critical and the regular bootloader one. For one you need to make sure your fastboot is current if it's not up to date you're probably going to have problems.
Edit. I would just send it back the way it is