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I've owned an iPhone 3GS for almost four years now, and it's time to upgrade to something new. I've decided upon the OGP as my new device, but I have some questions about battery life. I've read a few reviews that said although not as good as that of the Samsung Galaxy Note 2, the battery life is still great. Then again, I've also read a few reviews that have said that the battery life is horrid and that LG phones in general seem to use more battery than most while just sitting idle in standby mode. So, it seems to go both ways, depending on which review one reads.
My typical usage is about 90% browsing and reading webpages, and about 10% watching YouTube video, with a bit of music listening thrown in. With the iPhone I had to keep the screen set at about 50% to get me through a day of the above usage. Sometimes, an hour long recharge during lunch would give me battery life until the early evening. I hated having to keep the screen dimmed to 50%, but that's the way it is with that particular phone's power-hungry LCD. For video watching, I max the brightness so as to get as crisp of a picture as the phone is capable of.
I had looked at getting the Note 2, but I didn't care for the AMOLED's lack of whites and lack of brightness (and low resolution) in comparison to my dinosaur iPhone. If I did get that particular phone, I'd have to leave the brightness at max 24/7 although I don't know how that would affect batt life. Either way, the Note 2 screen did not appeal to my eyes, and the one on the OGP along with that of the HTC One were the best I've found in the larger phones.
So, my questions are, what do most people keep their brightness set to on their Optimus G Pro for most of the time, and how much screen time do you really get at that particular brightness level? And, does it seem that a few people have possibly gotten defective batteries? I realize that the G Pro's screen is an LCD with a white backlight on all the time the screen is lit, and probably won't be as efficient as an AMOLED, but with my type of usage (with the screen set to max) what kind of daily battery life can I expect from the OGP?
Well, I don't know if I can give you an estimate based on your exact usage, but let me share with you mine. I have my brightness set to 65% with auto brightness turned on. For me, that is a nice, comfortable viewing level that is easy on the eyes. I love the colors at 100% brightness, but it's almost too bright for me to look at for long times. Anyway, I only use my phone to send text messages and check web sites during the day, but then I play games in the evening (like super stickman golf). I can get through the day easily with 25% remaining when I plug in at bed time. I get about 4 -5 hours of screen on time out of that, so in total I could get about 5-6 hours if I were to drain the battery all the way.
So that doesn't exactly answer your question, but each person's usage is going to be slightly different. It also heavily depends on what you have for apps that are running in the background.
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I'll say this much, screen is responsible for about 50% of your phones battery drain across the board so if 100% brightness is more important than another hour or two of usage time then go for it. This thing should get you a full day even at 100% charge and relatively heavy usage but get comfy with seeing 20 or 30% by early evening. The hardest thing to get used to is remembering that 20% can still mean 2-3 hours of usage and is not an emergency. Another plus of this phone is you can charge about 50% with one hour of charging (or 25% on 15 mins) so as long as you are using a good charger you can juice up in a hurry.
Especially with root now becoming available, I started giving this more thought:
If someone wanted to do that, would running a lower resolution be an option, to perhaps extend your battery life?
The screen is QHD, 1440x2560. To minimize scaling issues with a fixed-pixel-location screen like an LCD, you could go down to HD, 720x1280. Now the graphics hardware is dealing with 1/4 as many pixels. It won't look as good, granted, but lets say the user accepts that trade-off.
Is this even possible? If so, do you think it could help battery life?
I don't have experience with this on phones. But on a computer, you can certainly lower your display resolution, even if using an LCD. It will look fuzzy at a non-native resolution, but perhaps that's less of an issue here, with the pixels being so small by comparison. And if you were gaming on the PC, lowering the resolution would allow higher framerates, assuming you were limited by your graphics card, not your CPU. I've admittedly never thought about it from a power-use perspective, but it seems reasonable that, if keeping the framerate the same, running a lower resolution would require less power for the PC.
My Galaxy S3 was 720x1280, admittedly on a smaller 4.8" screen, but I thought it looked fine. If using a lower screen resolution could, say, add 20% to my G4's SOT, I would be interested in that.
I believe this is what changing the DPI is for. This can be done via apps, or changing the value in the build.prop I think. Pushing less pixels on to the screen will definitely increase battery life. There's a threshold though, and depending on which G4 variant you have (whether it's branded by a carrier, etc.) you may want to research on what a safe number might be. I think some AT&T G4 user reported bootloops after changing the DPI to <530 or something. It looks like the camera doesn't get affected by the DPI change too, which is a definite good sign.
I'm waiting to see how the battery life holds up right now with root mode now being enabled in Greenify. If I can't squeeze more than 5 hours SoT while at a certain brightness and using BT, I'll consider changing the DPI.
This is not going to improve battery life in the slightest. You might be running a lower resolution but all the pixels are stilled turned on. The lower tax on the GPU is negligible.
kyle1867 said:
This is not going to improve battery life in the slightest. You might be running a lower resolution but all the pixels are stilled turned on. The lower tax on the GPU is negligible.
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Agreed. This was done on the G3 and batter life was not changed, only game performance improved as you are pushing graphics at 1080p instead of 1440p.
AhsanU said:
I believe this is what changing the DPI is for. This can be done via apps, or changing the value in the build.prop I think. Pushing less pixels on to the screen will definitely increase battery life. There's a threshold though, and depending on which G4 variant you have (whether it's branded by a carrier, etc.) you may want to research on what a safe number might be. I think some AT&T G4 user reported bootloops after changing the DPI to <530 or something. It looks like the camera doesn't get affected by the DPI change too, which is a definite good sign.
I'm waiting to see how the battery life holds up right now with root mode now being enabled in Greenify. If I can't squeeze more than 5 hours SoT while at a certain brightness and using BT, I'll consider changing the DPI.
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I believe that that's wrong, specially if you set it to numbers lower than stock.
I found a way to change the resolution
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/general/tool-change-phone-resolution-dpi-root-t3582863
Follow this thread, it's so simple and works perfectly!! on LG G4 818p
Guys im sorry but i have rushed a few replies to get the 10 posts but can you please not take this down i need to know if this is legit as my money back only lasts a certain amount
Ok so i bought a lg g3 from ebay, Its legit i have tested with antutu officer but it can get really hot and battery drains very quickly when watching movies and games.
My screen usage is always above 60% but i have screen on 30 seconds and 0% bright. My phone also says that i have used like 1000 mah at 50% but it should say 1500 mah.
I have a d851 and marshmallow and use my phone only with wifi no gps/nfc i also dont have background apps
My phone gets 188 mins on gfxbench
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Is this normal guys
razakma16 said:
Guys im sorry but i have rushed a few replies to get the 10 posts but can you please not take this down i need to know if this is legit as my money back only lasts a certain amount
Ok so i bought a lg g3 from ebay, Its legit i have tested with antutu officer but it can get really hot and battery drains very quickly when watching movies and games.
My screen usage is always above 60% but i have screen on 30 seconds and 0% bright. My phone also says that i have used like 1000 mah at 50% but it should say 1500 mah.
I have a d851 and marshmallow and use my phone only with wifi no gps/nfc i also dont have background apps
My phone gets 188 mins on gfxbench
Screenies
http://imgur.com/D95ABh1
http://imgur.com/G8I2tcS
http://imgur.com/LcM3NRe
http://imgur.com/st0GBFP
http://imgur.com/fi9ho9j
Sorry for structure of thread...
Is this normal guys
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Why should it say 1500 mah? The screen is not the only thing that drains the battery, you know that, right?
Running any benchmark will cause many battery drain. Don't do that. And that app you have to see the cpu temperature, 42º is not high for CPU. For battery it is.
dcop7 said:
Why should it say 1500 mah? The screen is not the only thing that drains the battery, you know that, right?
Running any benchmark will cause many battery drain. Don't do that. And that app you have to see the cpu temperature, 42º is not high for CPU. For battery it is.
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I meant the total of the battery is 1000 mah usage. But is it normal for screen usage to be 60-70 percent usage i use on low brightness aswell
Guys... Please help
razakma16 said:
Guys... Please help
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What help? Get a new battery or go away from Snapdragon devices. And, the screen usage is about right, because i don't know if you know, but the screen you are staring at is 1440x2560, or 2K, which is an insane resolution, and crammed in a 5.5 inch display at 538 ppi, it will consume A LOT. And the battery is just 3AH, which seemed much, but compared to the S5, with a 1080p display and a 2.6AH battery, the G3 has the worst SOT out of the 2014 flagship lineup.
西村大一 said:
What help? Get a new battery or go away from Snapdragon devices. And, the screen usage is about right, because i don't know if you know, but the screen you are staring at is 1440x2560, or 2K, which is an insane resolution, and crammed in a 5.5 inch display at 538 ppi, it will consume A LOT. And the battery is just 3AH, which seemed much, but compared to the S5, with a 1080p display and a 2.6AH battery, the G3 has the worst SOT out of the 2014 flagship lineup.
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The 2K screen doesn't consume that much power. There are mods which allow you to lower the resolution, but you won't see much or any increase in battery life or performance (maybe in games it's going to be most noticeable).
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Sounds like a bad battery. Quite possibly a reason why the other person decided to sell it in the first place. How old is the device that you purchases?
You can get an original replacement battery online for a few dollars. Just make sure you use a reputable vendor, like LG's official website.
engmia said:
The 2K screen doesn't consume that much power. There are mods which allow you to lower the resolution, but you won't see much or any increase in battery life or performance (maybe in games it's going to be most noticeable).
Sounds like a bad battery. Quite possibly a reason why the other person decided to sell it in the first place. How old is the device that you purchases?
You can get an original replacement battery online for a few dollars. Just make sure you use a reputable vendor, like LG's official website.
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Its brand new thats why i'm worried and i have downloaded a few battery checking apps and they say battery health is good.
But when i add up usage it totals lower then the battery capacity, they total up to 1000mah at 50%, when it should be 1500mah
Do you have any benchmarks i can try so i can see if its working right or its just me.
razakma16 said:
Its brand new thats why i'm worried and i have downloaded a few battery checking apps and they say battery health is good.
But when i add up usage it totals lower then the battery capacity, they total up to 1000mah at 50%, when it should be 1500mah
Do you have any benchmarks i can try so i can see if its working right or its just me.
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Oh so it's a brand new LG? How many hours of screen usage are you getting, what usage (web browsing, checking email or playing games?) and with what period of idle time.
Don't trust the numbers in the battery stats, especially in a new ROM. They are supposed to get better over time but I've found them to be wildly inaccurate even on months old ROM. I haven't really found an application you can benchmark accurately with.
But you compare with other (real) results on the foruns and rather you get the hang of what's the normal usage you should be getting out of a good battery.
Did you make a day without running any benchmark apps? What is your SOT? Standby time? Do you have location,wifi,bluetooth,NFC,mobile data on?
All of this matters. You shouldn't start right away with "I have problems with my battery" if you are running benchmark apps. Benchmark apps drains battery!
Wait a few days without running that apps and see how it manages. Another thing. The battery stats, the mah usage, not all of the things appears in the default android battery stats. And another thing, the battery value (the percentage of the battery), it is an approximation. Sometimes it could go up without charging, it is because it detected that has a wrong value. You could try charge your phone to 100%, usage it normally until 0%, until it turns off. Then charge it again to 100% and use it normally (don't discharge to 0% to many times, it just hurts the battery).
engmia said:
Oh so it's a brand new LG? How many hours of screen usage are you getting, what usage (web browsing, checking email or playing games?) and with what period of idle time.
Don't trust the numbers in the battery stats, especially in a new ROM. They are supposed to get better over time but I've found them to be wildly inaccurate even on months old ROM. I haven't really found an application you can benchmark accurately with.
But you compare with other (real) results on the foruns and rather you get the hang of what's the normal usage you should be getting out of a good battery.
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I watched lord of the rings for 1 hour and 10 minutes (streamed from the internet not downloaded) and my battery went from 100% to 70%, brightness 0% and no gps etc... or background apps, Is this normal guys....
dcop7 said:
Did you make a day without running any benchmark apps? What is your SOT? Standby time? Do you have location,wifi,bluetooth,NFC,mobile data on?
All of this matters. You shouldn't start right away with "I have problems with my battery" if you are running benchmark apps. Benchmark apps drains battery!
Wait a few days without running that apps and see how it manages. Another thing. The battery stats, the mah usage, not all of the things appears in the default android battery stats. And another thing, the battery value (the percentage of the battery), it is an approximation. Sometimes it could go up without charging, it is because it detected that has a wrong value. You could try charge your phone to 100%, usage it normally until 0%, until it turns off. Then charge it again to 100% and use it normally (don't discharge to 0% to many times, it just hurts the battery).
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OK i will try but it think you misunderstood i just want to run a benchmark to check i dont run them in the background constantsly now that would be
razakma16 said:
I watched lord of the rings for 1 hour and 10 minutes (streamed from the internet not downloaded) and my battery went from 100% to 70%, brightness 0% and no gps etc... or background apps, Is this normal guys....
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Streamed from the internet with at least 1h10 SOT, that is not bad. That is almost 4 hours SOT. If you have 1h12 minutes SOT, that is 4 hours. It is good.
razakma16 said:
I watched lord of the rings for 1 hour and 10 minutes (streamed from the internet not downloaded) and my battery went from 100% to 70%, brightness 0% and no gps etc... or background apps, Is this normal guys....
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Oh yeah, considering you even streamed the movie, it's signs of a good new and healthy battery. 3 hours of SoT with internet browsing is quite the norm, and 4 hours is on the up side.
I can barely get to 2 hours of SoT with my now aging battery.
engmia said:
Oh yeah, considering you even streamed the movie, it's signs of a good new and healthy battery. 3 hours of SoT with internet browsing is quite the norm, and 4 hours is on the up side.
I can barely get to 2 hours of SoT with my now aging battery.
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There are a few things you can try if you are rooted to improve battery.
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There are a few things you can try if you are rooted to improve battery.
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It's not about the software side of things, it's about that my battery is old now, and that's why happens to old batteries, the just deteriorate.
Thankfully the LG G3 has an easily replaceable battery, and I have a replacement waiting for me. Not getting a phone on which you can't remove the battery..
And never found those apps like Greenify to really work, at least in the last few years of Android. The OS seems to be doing just of a good a job and I see no improvement in battery life. Maybe they help in cases with poorly written apps that are draining your battery in the background, but I don't see why would you use such a software in the first place.
engmia said:
It's not about the software side of things, it's about that my battery is old now, and that's why happens to old batteries, the just deteriorate.
Thankfully the LG G3 has an easily replaceable battery, and I have a replacement waiting for me. Not getting a phone on which you can't remove the battery..
And never found those apps like Greenify to really work, at least in the last few years of Android. The OS seems to be doing just of a good a job and I see no improvement in battery life. Maybe they help in cases with poorly written apps that are draining your battery in the background, but I don't see why would you use such a software in the first place.
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There are other things. Try to disable assertive display. You can disable logd. Turn of VoLTE. I use greenify because the aggressive doze.
I have went back and forth with the 3 different resolution settings. If I look hard I can tell a little difference. At HD it is actually a little less sharp then my LG G5. Do we have any idea of the draw backs of the highest resolution? How much less battery life. Does it affect smoothness. I'll try different setting myself but was just wondering if anybody knew already.
I'm in the process of trying out the higher resolution too. I'll report back my real world use findings.
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Does use a bit more power BUT a lot more RAM
I haven't measured battery use (and it would be hard to have exactly the same test conditions anyway), but I haven't noticed any real difference between FHD and WQHD in normal use. I also don't see a whole lot of difference in sharpness or image quality, but maybe someone with younger eyes than me will see a difference.
Testing max resolution for a few days now, no major battery life impact so far. No lag either.
I've been happy with the battery on max as well. At the end of the day, with almost 4 hours screen time, my battery was still 40% yesterday. LTE most of the day, some wifi.
The difference between 1480x720 HD+ and 2220x1080 FHD+ is around 20 minutes battery time over the course of the entire day I believe. Then with 2960x1440 WQHD+ you're probably looking at losing 40 minutes of battery throughout the day. And overall, each step up uses more RAM, which is expected.
In terms of a difference, I can't really tell the real difference between 720p and WQHD+ ... I mean, the screen is small already, it's a phone. It isn't like you're stretch the resolution over a Monitor or TV where you can clearly tell the difference.
I believe WQHD+ is just slightly sharper. The big difference is if you were to use a VR Headset since the screen would be very close to your face and magnified.. this is when I would recommend using WQHD+ ... FHD+ 1080p is fine for daily use and I doubt you would be able to have a noticeable battery drain.
It's truely a topic of Battery Life & Lower Temps / vs. / "Visual Fidelity" & Higher Temps. I believe using WQHD+ over the course of a year would have a considerable but not horrible wear on the battery lifespan however, considering hardware isn't impervious to aging.
I've played with both resolutions but haven't noticed a difference neither.
I'm wondering what kinda battery life you get on the zfold3. When I opened youtube with the big screen on my accusatory app says it dr omegle ains 32%/hr does anyone else have any knowledge of if this is normal rate or high? I got it on ebay so I'm trying to make sure that everything is running as expected.
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Also if I open lifeafter and play it while fast charging the back of the phone gets really realty hot! Think it was in the 120-130° range xender and screen goes really dim. Anyone else experience this on any slightly more demanding games?
When I watch videos on YouTube with the Fold open I have the same behavior as you, I reduced this by forcing the refresh to 48hz on the videos. For games I don't know, however it consumes when open.
Use manual brightness control and keep below 50% Display brightness sucks a lot of battery.
Using dark mode and wallpaper helps too.
Black pixels use no power... darker ones use a lot less.
Once the OS learns your usage patterns, you should experience much better battery life. That usually take around a month or 2.
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Once the OS learns your usage patterns, you should experience much better battery life. That usually take around a month or 2.
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Lol, it never worked that I saw. Google global power management and it's tarded buckets will also cause erratic behaviors that can't be resolved unless you turn it off.
Hand optimizing is better, harder to do... but it works.