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Any problems with it? Is it buggy in any way? I'm looking for a cheap xbmc device but a raspberry pi is too much work.
I am using it and it works amazing well for me. Before I had pivos xios, ouya, MINIX neo x7 and they all their own issues. Finally for TV gives best of all of them. Only con is you have to tinker a bit but it's not too hard.
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I am using it and it works amazing well for me. Before I had pivos xios, ouya, MINIX neo x7 and they all their own issues. Finally for TV gives best of all of them. Only con is you have to tinker a bit but it's not too hard.
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No bugs at all? If I am using XBMC, will I be able to access Netflix, Hulu, and Amazon Instant Video? Also, is it easy to unroot and factory reset?
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No bugs at all? If I am using XBMC, will I be able to access Netflix, Hulu, and Amazon Instant Video? Also, is it easy to unroot and factory reset?
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You can't go wrong. You don't need to root to install it. See the XBMC wiki or FireTV News. (I can't post urls.)
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XBMC Wiki: http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=Amazon_Fire_TV
FireTVNews: http://www.firetvnews.com/tag/guide/
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You can't go wrong. You don't need to root to install it. See the XBMC wiki or FireTV News. (I can't post urls.)
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you don't need root, but it would help alot. How well does XBMC work for you?
I would say I works near perfectly for me
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I would say I works near perfectly for me
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Near perfect? What problems do you have? And I hear that MPEG2 isnt supported, should I be concerned about that?
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you don't need root, but it would help alot. How well does XBMC work for you?
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No flaws. I'm rooted but root is really not relevant to running XBMC. For years I ran Plex on a MacMini. This is way better. Just to start -- DTS pass-thru.
Sideloading is really easy. So is uninstalling. I can't see a down side here.
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you don't need root, but it would help alot. How well does XBMC work for you?
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You can't go wrong. You don't need to root to install it. See the XBMC wiki or FireTV News. (I can't post urls.)
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This is all true. However, to get the best possible XBMC experience on the KFTV will require root and to setup an XBMC Launcher (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2790392). This launcher replaces the KFTV launcher while still providing access to it and Amazon Prime. It's literally the best of both worlds.
mjbxx said:
This is all true. However, to get the best possible XBMC experience on the KFTV will require root and to setup an XBMC Launcher (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2790392). This launcher replaces the KFTV launcher while still providing access to it and Amazon Prime. It's literally the best of both worlds.
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Thank you for the links. How do I do a factory reset or unroot my device just incase I decide to return it?
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Thank you for the links. How do I do a factory reset or unroot my device just incase I decide to return it?
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Fire TV News (link in a prior post) has guides for all your issues. I would also recommend downloading ADBFire which you can find in the Fire TV Themes and Apps subforum of this forum
Hi.
I've rooted my AFTV and installet XBMC. It works good, but I have some problems.
1) IPTV PVR SIMPLE addon not working. When I whant to play any channel it freezes and can't go back to menu. Only reset helps.
2) Some kind of shifting in rewind when making step forward or backward fo 30 sec. Very long time of buffering.
3) Sleep mode in XBMC not working properly. It reboots AFTV every time, but no sleep.
4) And the biggest problem in Audio. When I use Direct output with ac3, dts, etc the video playback begins to slow.
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Hi.
I've rooted my AFTV and installet XBMC. It works good, but I have some problems.
1) IPTV PVR SIMPLE addon not working. When I whant to play any channel it freezes and can't go back to menu. Only reset helps.
2) Some kind of shifting in rewind when making step forward or backward fo 30 sec. Very long time of buffering.
3) Sleep mode in XBMC not working properly. It reboots AFTV every time, but no sleep.
4) And the biggest problem in Audio. When I use Direct output with ac3, dts, etc the video playback begins to slow.
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1. So if I don't use this addon, it won't affect me?
2. What do you mean?
3. Does this fix your problem? http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=Amazon_Fire_TV#Sleep_while_XBMC_is_Open_.28Requires_root.29
4. Is there a way for audio and video playback to run smooth without this problem?
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1. So if I don't use this addon, it won't affect me?
2. What do you mean?
3. Does this fix your problem?
4. Is there a way for audio and video playback to run smooth without this problem?
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1. May be You know any other way to play IPTV playlist without installing additional server soft (such as Tvheadend)? On my HTPC I use "PVR IPTV Simple Client" and it works perfect. On AFTV it stucks.
2. Fast-forward causes everything to look choppy. I think I should edit advancedsettings.xml
3. I made all steps by this wiki. I've installed this Android Screensaver and it worked normally till today. Now my AFTV every minute reboots instead of sleep mode.
4. Yes. In standart settings it works. Without enable passthrough. But this is not acceptable for me.
Madline said:
1. May be You know any other way to play IPTV playlist without installing additional server soft (such as Tvheadend)? On my HTPC I use "PVR IPTV Simple Client" and it works perfect. On AFTV it stucks.
2. Fast-forward causes everything to look choppy. I think I should edit advancedsettings.xml
3. I made all steps by this wiki. I've installed this Android Screensaver and it worked normally till today. Now my AFTV every minute reboots instead of sleep mode.
4. Yes. In standart settings it works. Without enable passthrough. But this is not acceptable for me.
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Darn. What should I get? Amazon Fire TV or Raspberry Pi?
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Darn. What should I get? Amazon Fire TV or Raspberry Pi?
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Fire TV and do not look back. Besides, you have a 30 day return period throught Amazon. Try it out and see if you like it. You have absolutely nothing to lose doing so.
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Darn. What should I get? Amazon Fire TV or Raspberry Pi?
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I have had a raspberry pi with raspbmc for over a year. I bought the firetv two weeks ago. While I enjoyed tinkering around with the pi and tweaking it to get the best experience for xbmc, the fire tv is much better. It's just so much more powerful and as a result everything is very smooth, menus, video playback - all of it. In addition, you have the added benefit of having access to netflix and amazon prime which you will not get on raspbmc. Now I have to turn on one less device when I want to watch netflix. Finally, it seems like there are some devs working on unlocking the bootloader - so I would imagine that custom roms can't be far off. So if those things sound good to you, I would highly recommend the FTV.
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No flaws. I'm rooted but root is really not relevant to running XBMC. For years I ran Plex on a MacMini. This is way better. Just to start -- DTS pass-thru.
Sideloading is really easy. So is uninstalling. I can't see a down side here.
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DTS pass-thru is something that I was banging my head against the wall to make it work, then I just saw "advanced settings" on the left bottom of menu just to find out that you need to activate this to have access to audio pass-thru. Then it worked flawlessly.
Spmc
You guys should look into SPMC for an alternative solution to xbmc. Its the same app but custom made that was designed for Ouya.works better on Amzon Fire Tv
I have installed XBMC and SPMC in my AFTV and I have been playing with both, I really don't find a lot of differences, only that SPMC is a little bit tweaked to autoboot and maybe other changes that I haven't noticed.
I believe that SPMC is more optimized to work more estable on our Fire TV than XBMC am I right or wrong?,
Any other benefits to use XBMC instead of SPMC in our device?
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I have installed XBMC and SPMC in my AFTV and I have been playing with both, I really don't find a lot of differences, only that SPMC is a little bit tweaked to autoboot and maybe other changes that I haven't noticed.
I believe that SPMC is more optimized to work more estable on our Fire TV than XBMC am I right or wrong?,
Any other benefits to use XBMC instead of SPMC in our device?
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I recently switched from XBMC to SPMC to fix a fast forwarding bug as well as a sleeping bug. Haven't noticed any difference other than those two annoyances are fixed. Plus I installed it from the play store so I can auto update in that manner now rather than manually pushing it.
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I recently switched from XBMC to SPMC to fix a fast forwarding bug as well as a sleeping bug. Haven't noticed any difference other than those two annoyances are fixed. Plus I installed it from the play store so I can auto update in that manner now rather than manually pushing it.
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I have installed the 12.4 spmc dated april 11th 2014 version first outlined in the xbmc firetv wiki which was for the ouya. If you go to system and system info, it reads 90-100 fps where future versions of spmc and all versions of xbmc are at about 30fps with the same 1920x1080 resolution. Not sure if there is a real world difference but just something I noticed.
Interesting, thanks
Does the modified keyboard.xml file fix the fast forward bug. Details for it are in wiki. I used first keyboard file with good results.
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I scanned through the wiki but I'm not sure what you are referring to. Is using one of elmerohueso's XBMC Tweaks for FTV keyboard.xml files.
The problem I was having is that I could not skip forward in videos. It would try and jump forward but then resume playing at the same spot. The counter would also not work correctly. Then if I tried to skip backwards it would always go to the same spot. Kind of hard to explain.
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Spmc is a mess!! Does not work with aftv! Does not update addons and does not let you delete scripts, using kodi now!! Works with pseudo
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Kodi is stable enough?
collindv said:
I scanned through the wiki but I'm not sure what you are referring to. Is using one of elmerohueso's XBMC Tweaks for FTV keyboard.xml files.
The problem I was having is that I could not skip forward in videos. It would try and jump forward but then resume playing at the same spot. The counter would also not work correctly. Then if I tried to skip backwards it would always go to the same spot. Kind of hard to explain.
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to fix the skip bug, simply disable mediacodec in the video acceleration menu, then fully reboot the box. It is caused by a bug in the mediacodec implementation on firetv. Leave stagefright enabled.
In the latest version of the kodi alpahas, mediacodec appears to be working fine on the firetv.
Xavier000 said:
Spmc is a mess!! Does not work with aftv! Does not update addons and does not let you delete scripts, using kodi now!! Works with pseudo
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Huh? I suppose the comment was made by your evil phone and not by you
I have SPMC 13.3.2 working perfectly on AFTV...not sure what your problems are. Addons get updated and everything else works. Koyig is one of the original contributors to XBMC for Android/Ouya...been using SPMC for more than a year now.
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Huh? I suppose the comment was made by your evil phone and not by you
I have SPMC 13.3.2 working perfectly on AFTV...not sure what your problems are. Addons get updated and everything else works. Koyig is one of the original contributors to XBMC for Android/Ouya...been using SPMC for more than a year now.
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totally agree spmc is solid.
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totally agree spmc is solid.
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I too switched to spmc last night. Kodi wouldn't play .ts files properly. Would stutter after a while. SPMC does that well and has the suspend benefits. So far no real issues noticed.
mastafunk said:
to fix the skip bug, simply disable mediacodec in the video acceleration menu, then fully reboot the box. It is caused by a bug in the mediacodec implementation on firetv. Leave stagefright enabled.
In the latest version of the kodi alpahas, mediacodec appears to be working fine on the firetv.
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I just tried disabling mediacodec and it seems that the skip bug has gone too. Is mediacodec important? I don't see any difference. At the moment, SPMC is really the most stable platform I've seen. It can play .ts all the mkv's I have properly. Unless I find a content that does not work, I'll stick on. no need to fix what is not broken.
Spmc the sound it's not 5.1 and does not update add ons properly on aftv. Maybe I'm wrong but it does not feel like gotham
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Aeon nox gotham plus will not work with it!! No keyboard
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mastafunk said:
to fix the skip bug, simply disable mediacodec in the video acceleration menu, then fully reboot the box. It is caused by a bug in the mediacodec implementation on firetv. Leave stagefright enabled.
In the latest version of the kodi alpahas, mediacodec appears to be working fine on the firetv.
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Spmc the sound it's not 5.1 and does not update add ons properly on aftv. Maybe I'm wrong but it does not feel like gotham
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I get 5.1 but i do a passthrough. without passthrough to the bose, I get 2.0 even on gotham/helix with the firetv.
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Spmc the sound it's not 5.1 and does not update add ons properly on aftv. Maybe I'm wrong but it does not feel like gotham
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SPMC is working for me with zero issues regarding 5.1 surround and updating of addons. Oh, and it truly does feel like Gotham as that is essentially what SPMC is with the added fixes by an official XBMC/Android developer named @Koying.
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collindv said:
I recently switched from XBMC to SPMC to fix a fast forwarding bug as well as a sleeping bug. Haven't noticed any difference other than those two annoyances are fixed. Plus I installed it from the play store so I can auto update in that manner now rather than manually pushing it.
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I installed the latest spmc using the push method but would like to be able to auto update int he future is there a way to do this without uninstalling then reinstalling from the play store? I am rooted etc.
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I installed the latest spmc using the push method but would like to be able to auto update int he future is there a way to do this without uninstalling then reinstalling from the play store? I am rooted etc.
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I rather not have it auto update. The latest version of kodi which is 13.3.3 has the .ts file playback issue as is the case with Gotham. Surprisingly, the 13.3.2 version has it working just fine.
I have tried Xbmc Gotham, Spmc and Kodi alpha on Amazon Fire TV.
But every time i found the same problem of crashing, i just wonder is it really a problem or just something wrong with my AFTV ?. It happens very often so i can not conclude that when exactly it crashes. Even i have not rooted my device. and nothing is installed except XBMC.
Also somebody would like to answer is there any way to update librtmp without root ?
Any suggestions would be appreciated !
Thank
arif01 said:
I have tried Xbmc Gotham, Spmc and Kodi alpha on Amazon Fire TV.
But every time i found the same problem of crashing, i just wonder is it really a problem or just something wrong with my AFTV ?. It happens very often so i can not conclude that when exactly it crashes. Even i have not rooted my device. and nothing is installed except XBMC.
Also somebody would like to answer is there any way to update librtmp without root ?
Any suggestions would be appreciated !
Thank
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Did you try the KODI forum? Mine crashes every fourth selection, no matter what section or add-on I am in.
What addons do you have enabled?
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What addons do you have enabled?
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1Channel
Crackle
ESPN Video
HD-Trailers.com
Icefilms
IGN.com
Revision3
YouTube
Plus WMC.PVR
Doesn't matter which one I'm using, crashes just as I select the fourth video, even when changing channels in PVR.
that is not normal behavior.. I've been running pretty solid since April. You need to produce a log and see what's happening could be so many things.
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1Channel
Crackle
ESPN Video
HD-Trailers.com
Icefilms
IGN.com
Revision3
YouTube
Plus WMC.PVR
Doesn't matter which one I'm using, crashes just as I select the fourth video, even when changing channels in PVR.
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Have you tried running without addons installed? Try only one installed at a single time to root out the cause. I only have Icefilms on two devices and have yet to experience a crash.
Set decoding method to "Hardware accelerated", fixed crashing for me.
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BigB42078 said:
Did you try the KODI forum? Mine crashes every fourth selection, no matter what section or add-on I am in.
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Sorry for late reply as i was on vacation.
NO i haven't tried there, i thought i will get quick response/solution here instead
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that is not normal behavior.. I've been running pretty solid since April. You need to produce a log and see what's happening could be so many things.
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File is attached , if possible please explain me the error information
Now i have removed the file as the problem is solved (23Oct2014)
verboten said:
Have you tried running without addons installed? Try only one installed at a single time to root out the cause. I only have Icefilms on two devices and have yet to experience a crash.
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I have only installed one addon
V8vroom said:
Set decoding method to "Hardware accelerated", fixed crashing for me.
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By default it is selected
Thanks all for resonses
Now the working/solution part
This solution will ONLY solve problem for those who are using Live tv, (at-least as I do). Both, SPMC and official XBMC crashed on Live tv (or any Live Stream addson) but not when playback from local contents. Now my fire tv runs quit smoothly with no crashed issues.
These are the following steps which needs to be done :
1. Turn off both filters (mediacodec and libstagefright) under hardware acceleration.
(goto System->Settings->Video->Acceleration>disable both filters MediaCodec and Libstagefright)
2. Change hardware acceleration to software. (when there is no filter activated it will automatically work as software, so basically Decoding method can be leave as Hardware accelerated as well)
3. Enable 'Allow multi thread software decoding' (optional if you changed DecMtd to Sofwre)
For those user who are not using LIVE TV but they have the same problem while using any other addson or streaming media from local server.
ONLY turning off Mediacodec could stabilize the system. Also bare in mind everything works fine with software rendering but sometimes cpu can be exhausted so try to put the device in open area where air can easily circulate, haven't notice so much heat but its better to be prepare.
With Mediacodec disabled, it also notices that XBMC runs little slower while watching movies and for example navigating the menus. That could also be cachemembuffersize, if experiences the lagging issue increase the cachemembuffersize.
Now i simply request to our respected developers to make some adjustments/fix to the media library so it can smoothly support Fire TV hardware.
Thanks all folks for helping each other.
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Now the working/solution part
This solution will ONLY solve problem for those who are using Live tv, (at-least as I do). Both, SPMC and official XBMC crashed on Live tv (or any Live Stream addson) but not when playback from local contents. Now my fire tv runs quit smoothly with no crashed issues.
These are the following steps which needs to be done :
1. Turn off both filters (mediacodec and libstagefright) under hardware acceleration.
(goto System->Settings->Video->Acceleration>disable both filters MediaCodec and Libstagefright)
2. Change hardware acceleration to software. (when there is no filter activated it will automatically work as software, so basically Decoding method can be leave as Hardware accelerated as well)
3. Enable 'Allow multi thread software decoding' (optional if you changed DecMtd to Sofwre)
For those user who are not using LIVE TV but they have the same problem while using any other addson or streaming media from local server.
ONLY turning off Mediacodec could stabilize the system. Also bare in mind everything works fine with software rendering but sometimes cpu can be exhausted so try to put the device in open area where air can easily circulate, haven't notice so much heat but its better to be prepare.
With Mediacodec disabled, it also notices that XBMC runs little slower while watching movies and for example navigating the menus. That could also be cachemembuffersize, if experiences the lagging issue increase the cachemembuffersize.
Now i simply request to our respected developers to make some adjustments/fix to the media library so it can smoothly support Fire TV hardware.
Thanks all folks for helping each other.
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Changing these settings worked for me too! Only on Live Tv my Premium channels would freeze and just keep playing audio(DIY, Lifetime, History, Animal Planet, Fox News, All HBO, SHOWTIME etc...) BUT now the problem is the picture has a lag to it, without he accelerations enabled they lag, I am using the new fire tv 2015, any other ideas to fix this or is Amazon Fire Tv just no good for Kodi? I will say I tried Kodi 14.2, 15.2, 16, and I have a paid subscription for iptv, my same settings work perfect on my windows machine.
Thanks
I have tried multi fire tvs.
I have tried SPMC
XBMC gotham
Kodie
hardware acceleration on and off
I have tried wireless and direct through a gigabit switch with nothing else running.
I have tried advancedsettings.xml and without.
I have no issues running .mkvs on boxee boxes throughout the house and on other computers throughout the house.
it doesn't matter if the file size if 5GB or 14gb. Can someone please help me I am at my wits end and want to use this great device but am thinking of going back to the boxee box. thanks
no one?
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no one?
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I see zero (micro) stutter or judder. Even with BD source material @ 23.976 fps.
AFAIK, the FireTV doesn't output ~24 fps, but 60 fps for all source material (25 fps, 23.976 fps, 50 fps etc).
Does your TV have temporal processing or other forms of post-processing built-in ? Did you try to disable this ?
loekf said:
I see zero (micro) stutter or judder. Even with BD source material @ 23.976 fps.
AFAIK, the FireTV doesn't output ~24 fps, but 60 fps for all source material (25 fps, 23.976 fps, 50 fps etc).
Does your TV have temporal processing or other forms of post-processing built-in ? Did you try to disable this ?
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+1 for this FireTv needs Motion Interpolation settings at OFF or it will stutter badly.
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+1 for this FireTv needs Motion Interpolation settings at OFF or it will stutter badly.
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By motion interpolation, do you mean the smooth frequency setting?
Yes
ok I have now loaded a movie onto a SanDisk Extreme 16GB USB 3.0 Flash Drive With Speed Up To 245MB/s directly into the amazon fire tv. I have turned off all filters and settings on the tv and even tried an older tv that is a plasma and another first gen lcd with no motion control the movie micro stutters on all of them and all the fire TVs. Just for fun I put XBMC on the boxee box and it runs fine on that also. Please help I really want to make the move over but this is getting my hopes down.
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ok I have now loaded a movie onto a SanDisk Extreme 16GB USB 3.0 Flash Drive With Speed Up To 245MB/s directly into the amazon fire tv. I have turned off all filters and settings on the tv and even tried an older tv that is a plasma and another first gen lcd with no motion control the movie micro stutters on all of them and all the fire TVs. Just for fun I put XBMC on the boxee box and it runs fine on that also. Please help I really want to make the move over but this is getting my hopes down.
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update just tried netflix and amazon prime and those both play fine. Can someone please tell me what might be wrong?
I don't have my fire to yet, but I just had this problem with Xbmc in my PC with 24fps content.
To fix it I found choosing the audio re sample option in this playback menu made it perfectly smooth. Not sure if this option is on the fire to build though?
One of the things I was most excited about pairing my Fire TV with XBMC was the ability to have on-demand 3D movies. Last night I gave it its first run and, unfortunately, it did not go well. We started a 1080p 3D movie via XBMCtorrent. Things went smoothly for the first ten minutes or so, then a big error message appeared on the screen saying that my Fire TV was nearly full to capacity. XBMC showed that it weighed in at over 6 gigabytes. (My Fire TV has only about 3 repositories and 3 add-ons installed beyond the native Fire TV software and the XBMC software itself.)The only thing I could think of to do was to use a Delete Files command that basically set XBMC back to the drawing board, where I had to reinstall all my add-ons, reset the screen size setup, everything, but at least the error message went away. We started up a new 3D movie, and several minutes in, XBMC completely crashed.
I know the storage on a Fire TV isn't enormous. Does that mean that 3D movies aren't playable on the Fire TV?
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One of the things I was most excited about pairing my Fire TV with XBMC was the ability to have on-demand 3D movies. Last night I gave it its first run and, unfortunately, it did not go well. We started a 1080p 3D movie via XBMCtorrent. Things went smoothly for the first ten minutes or so, then a big error message appeared on the screen saying that my Fire TV was nearly full to capacity. XBMC showed that it weighed in at over 6 gigabytes. (My Fire TV has only about 3 repositories and 3 add-ons installed beyond the native Fire TV software and the XBMC software itself.)The only thing I could think of to do was to use a Delete Files command that basically set XBMC back to the drawing board, where I had to reinstall all my add-ons, reset the screen size setup, everything, but at least the error message went away. We started up a new 3D movie, and several minutes in, XBMC completely crashed.
I know the storage on a Fire TV isn't enormous. Does that mean that 3D movies aren't playable on the Fire TV?
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It depends on your source I guess.
I have 3D Blurays I ripped to SBS MKV files using AnyDvdHD and BD-rebuilder. They play just fine so far.
But I'll admit I haven't tried playing any Torrents
Just a guess but are you using genesis with fan art enabled? Those thumbnails add up. Lots of people have complained about low memory. I'm rooted and since using advanced settings to store meta data on external drive I've had no space issues.
But, I'm not an expert, however, that doesn't make sense to me. I've watched very large 3d files on devices like atv2 with flash memory.
I don't want to steer you wrong but maybe the zero cache setting would work? I've read lots of posts on low memory and aftv but this is the first time I've heard of a file not playingon a device with apparently enough free space.
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Just a guess but are you using genesis with fan art enabled? Those thumbnails add up. Lots of people have complained about low memory. I'm rooted and since using advanced settings to store meta data on external drive I've had no space issues.
But, I'm not an expert, however, that doesn't make sense to me. I've watched very large 3d files on devices like atv2 with flash memory.
I don't want to steer you wrong but maybe the zero cache setting would work? I've read lots of posts on low memory and aftv but this is the first time I've heard of a file not playingon a device with apparently enough free space.
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what advance settings did you use? xml text? and what... dill
Raymondo17 said:
One of the things I was most excited about pairing my Fire TV with XBMC was the ability to have on-demand 3D movies. Last night I gave it its first run and, unfortunately, it did not go well. We started a 1080p 3D movie via XBMCtorrent. Things went smoothly for the first ten minutes or so, then a big error message appeared on the screen saying that my Fire TV was nearly full to capacity. XBMC showed that it weighed in at over 6 gigabytes. (My Fire TV has only about 3 repositories and 3 add-ons installed beyond the native Fire TV software and the XBMC software itself.)The only thing I could think of to do was to use a Delete Files command that basically set XBMC back to the drawing board, where I had to reinstall all my add-ons, reset the screen size setup, everything, but at least the error message went away. We started up a new 3D movie, and several minutes in, XBMC completely crashed.
I know the storage on a Fire TV isn't enormous. Does that mean that 3D movies aren't playable on the Fire TV?
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i think it just means than any video you try and fully download with sbmctorrent onto the fireTV box is going to be an issue since there isnt room for big movies on the internal storage.
3d movies work fine here, SBS is most common online and is best imo. if your looking to "stream" 3d movies from online, try the addon named after the bird "phoenix" from tvaddons.ag it contains a few of the sources from the old mashup and 3 or 4 of them have a decent 3D section with 20-30 titles in each.
Thanks for the responses here.
KLit75 said:
Just a guess but are you using genesis with fan art enabled?
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KLit75, Genesis is one of the three add-ons I'm using. I'll have to dive in and see if I can find where to disable the fan art.
nhumber said:
i think it just means than any video you try and fully download with sbmctorrent onto the fireTV box is going to be an issue since there isn't room for big movies on the internal storage.
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nhumber, are you saying that XBMCtorrent downloads the full movie to the Fire TV itself, while other add-ons do not, they merely stream? Is that correct? XBMCtorrent does seem to operate differently, as a download routine occurs before the movie begins. I wonder, does it discard the movie file once I've finished viewing it, or do I need to go in and manually clear it out somehow?
nhumber said:
3d movies work fine here, SBS is most common online and is best imo.
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I'm not familiar with SBS. Is that an XBMC add-on, or perhaps a 3D file format?
nhumber said:
if your looking to "stream" 3d movies from online, try the add-on named after the bird "phoenix" from tvaddons.ag it contains a few of the sources from the old mashup and 3 or 4 of them have a decent 3D section with 20-30 titles in each.
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An excellent idea. I take it that these will stream like other typical XBMC media and won't bog down the Fire TV by trying to store it locally, is that correct?
Raymondo17 said:
Thanks for the responses here.
nhumber, are you saying that XBMCtorrent downloads the full movie to the Fire TV itself, while other add-ons do not, they merely stream? Is that correct? XBMCtorrent does seem to operate differently, as a download routine occurs before the movie begins. I wonder, does it discard the movie file once I've finished viewing it, or do I need to go in and manually clear it out somehow?
I'm not familiar with SBS. Is that an XBMC add-on, or perhaps a 3D file format?
An excellent idea. I take it that these will stream like other typical XBMC media and won't bog down the Fire TV by trying to store it locally, is that correct?
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from what you are saying i was just assuming that must be how xbmctorrent operates, which wont work well on the fireTV, i dont know if it saves it or if you have to delete stuff yourself, SBS means Side by Side, which is the typical 3d format you will find online. The Phoenix addon has SBS 3d movies in a few catagories and they all work well for me.
dillfever said:
what advance settings did you use? xml text? and what... dill
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I missed the part about xbmctorrent. Thats completely different. I use it on rpi openelec because I have a large HDD attached. I didn't know xbmctorrent even worked on aftv? But if it does it would need to be playing small files because otherwise your internal space will fill up to your limit then the movie will stop. xbmctorrent (I'm fairly certain) needs to download the entire file while it plays. Once finished it should auto delete unless you tell it not to. Like I said I never tried it on aftv but obviously it works. So if you're rooted you'd need to go into the addon settings and hopefully you can save that file to external (need to be rooted.)
The advanced settings I was thinking about is the zero cache from maintenance tool but it doesn't apply here at all now that I read the full post.
My advanced settings to store to external? Is that what you want? It goes something like this, but you need root. Copy this to a plain text and call it advancedsettings.xml
<advancedsettings>
<pathsubstitution>
<substitute>
<from>/storage/emulated/0/Android/data/org.xbmc.xbmc/files/.xbmc/userdata/Thumbnails/</from>
<to>/storage/usb/drive1/xbmcthumbnails/</to>
</substitute>
</pathsubstitution>
</advancedsettings>
Amend it if you're using kodi instead of xbmc AND if you mount with stickmount your usb storage will be in sda (don't recall the exact path but just check it by looking with es file or root explorer. I'd suggest using adbfire to mount the drive. Then you can follow those exactly if you're running xbmc. Create the folder in the external "xbmcthumbnails"
***ALSO if your metadata is completely blank after applying this that means it worked. Just delete the Textures13 in database, restart xbmc and they'll be back.
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KLit75, Genesis is one of the three add-ons I'm using. I'll have to dive in and see if I can find where to disable the fan art.
I just responded tht that advice doesn't really pertain to your problem. XBMC uses its own scrapers for all the art. Lots of people began complaining of low memory after Genesis was released. It pulls from many other places and you can access trakt collection, imdb, and other accounts then add them to xbmc library. It's an awesome addon really, but all that metadata that gets stored on your internal can amount to a lot and the AFTV don't have a lot.
But like I said xbmctorrent works by downloading the file to your aftv so the space needs to be available. Unless they're compressed to mkv, 3d files are huge. If you have say 2gb of space available and you want to watch an episode of the Walking Dead in HD (around 1 gb) you shouldn't have issues with playback. Plus, in general, everything runs smoother when your internal memory has room to spare.
If you're rooted Id advise you try those advanced settings I posted. I never get the low memory message.
I'm using spmc and stickmont, should just have to change the directory... no
dillfever said:
I'm using spmc and stickmont, should just have to change the directory... no
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Yes that's right. I've amended it for SPMC, xbmc, helix and when I went from sda to storage/usb/drive1
Remember to create a folder on external "xbmcthumbnails" and like I said all your icons will disappear. Just go into database, delete textures13 and restart. After I do this I usually just delete the thumbnails folder in xbmc. You should see a significant increase in free space after you check.
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Is there any solution to play 3d movies smoothly without giving error?
anandnitin25 said:
Is there any solution to play 3d movies smoothly without giving error?
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yes just press the play button.
anandnitin25 said:
Is there any solution to play 3d movies smoothly without giving error?
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Encode your 3D Movie as a HSBS MKV, put it on a network share, use SPMC to access that network share and play the movie back.
Works fine for me.
Using Plex Server/Player with my same HSBS MKV files works too.
There are tools out there to make them if you have the Bluray.
Clear Maxed Out Storage
This is good info for a newbie like me. So it looks like XBMCtorrent is not the way to go to view movies for those of us limited to the stock Amazon Fire TV hard drive.
Now the question is, how do I delete the data that has accumulated? Right now, my Amazon Fire is unusable because the Manage All Apps screen shows that XBMCtorrent has accumulated over 9GB of data, (isn't that nearly double what the Fire's hard drive is?), so I clearly need to dump that data somehow.
However, if I use the Manage All Apps screen's option to "Delete Data", as Raymondo17 points out, I lose everything I've spent time dialing in just right.
Is there a way to clear the accumulated downloaded movie data without having to start from scratch afterward? Again, I'm a total newbie as of this weekend, so "XBMCtorrent for Dummies" level answers would be greatly appreciated! ; D
PS - Does anyone have a favorite alternative to XBMCtorrent? I really appreciated the work they put into organizing the movie selections by 1080p, 720, 3D, etc..
mrwizzer said:
This is good info for a newbie like me. So it looks like XBMCtorrent is not the way to go to view movies for those of us limited to the stock Amazon Fire TV hard drive.
Now the question is, how do I delete the data that has accumulated? Right now, my Amazon Fire is unusable because the Manage All Apps screen shows that XBMCtorrent has accumulated over 9GB of data, (isn't that nearly double what the Fire's hard drive is?), so I clearly need to dump that data somehow.
However, if I use the Manage All Apps screen's option to "Delete Data", as Raymondo17 points out, I lose everything I've spent time dialing in just right.
Is there a way to clear the accumulated downloaded movie data without having to start from scratch afterward? Again, I'm a total newbie as of this weekend, so "XBMCtorrent for Dummies" level answers would be greatly appreciated! ; D
PS - Does anyone have a favorite alternative to XBMCtorrent? I really appreciated the work they put into organizing the movie selections by 1080p, 720, 3D, etc..
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I could say something about not stealing movies... but I won't. Well, I guess I just did...
rbox said:
I could say something about not stealing movies... but I won't. Well, I guess I just did...
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Heh, true.
But on the other hand, it is kind of ironic thinking about how much of a struggle it is to get my massive library of legally purchased blu-ray (23.976) to stream to my TV. That old idea that scene releases are often better created/packaged than their legal counterparts is absolutely true IMHO. This isn't to say that I support piracy; it's just something I've been thinking about the last week as I work with my AFTV.
*continues reading about installing Fedora*
ECEXCURSION said:
Heh, true.
But on the other hand, it is kind of ironic thinking about how much of a struggle it is to get my massive library of legally purchased blu-ray (23.976) to stream to my TV. That old idea that scene releases are often better created/packaged than their legal counterparts is absolutely true IMHO. This isn't to say that I support piracy; it's just something I've been thinking about the last week as I work with my AFTV.
*continues reading about installing Fedora*
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Sorry for the OT, but you have almost 24000 blurays??
Can you post a picture of the collection? Not that I don't believe you, just to know how this massive amount of BDs look
Btw, I play ripped 3d movies in SBS and OAU and both work (earlier on 13) now on helix played smooth over a nfs share from my synology nas (after I switched from wifi to gb-lan [emoji106]
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tomoffel said:
Sorry for the OT, but you have almost 24000 blurays??
Can you post a picture of the collection? Not that I don't believe you, just to know how this massive amount of BDs look
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Haha, forgot to label that. I was referring to the frame rate of uncompressed blu-ray video (23.976 fps). Stock, the Fire TV doesn't support 24hz output, so playback is choppy at times.
ECEXCURSION said:
Haha, forgot to label that. I was referring to the frame rate of uncompressed blu-ray video (23.976 fps). Stock, the Fire TV doesn't support 24hz output, so playback is choppy at times.
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Haha, okay
Yeah, that 24Hz thing is a really pita.. The only thing I don't like about that box.. And the failure cec..
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Raymondo17 said:
One of the things I was most excited about pairing my Fire TV with XBMC was the ability to have on-demand 3D movies. Last night I gave it its first run and, unfortunately, it did not go well. We started a 1080p 3D movie via XBMCtorrent. Things went smoothly for the first ten minutes or so, then a big error message appeared on the screen saying that my Fire TV was nearly full to capacity. XBMC showed that it weighed in at over 6 gigabytes. (My Fire TV has only about 3 repositories and 3 add-ons installed beyond the native Fire TV software and the XBMC software itself.)The only thing I could think of to do was to use a Delete Files command that basically set XBMC back to the drawing board, where I had to reinstall all my add-ons, reset the screen size setup, everything, but at least the error message went away. We started up a new 3D movie, and several minutes in, XBMC completely crashed.
I know the storage on a Fire TV isn't enormous. Does that mean that 3D movies aren't playable on the Fire TV?
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Real Simple... Find an Addon that does NOT use Bittorent. I mean what exactly would you think would happen if you tried to DL a 50GB 1080p 3D BR rip? On to a Device with only 8GBs of shared Storage?
Without naming names, there are a few Add-ons that offer Movies in 3D (Some also in Top Bottom), and outside of a few of these not playing correct on my tv. (The images weren't aligning correctly), these types of Movies have never caused me any problems. Outside of actually sending a proper 3D switching signal to the tv. Thankfully setting the 3D manually isn't that big of an issue.