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what do you use to charge sw3?

what do you use to charge your sw3 ? i was charging it with an ASUS charger (100-240v) and after 20min the watch was very hot ! It's normal ? what kind of charger do you use ?

I use a genuine samsung charger (From a S4) and it gets hot too. I don't we should worry...

I checked the amps it draws from charger it showed ~.520 from wall charger, same as USB.

stupid design , its not easy to put the cable into the mini usb port
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1. It is micro USB, not mini
2. There is always sacrifice in favor of ip68, I prefer waterproofing. But wireless qi charging would be good.

my mistake , anyway how long do yall get it fully charged? mine take pretty fast , can see percentage move up 1% in a few seconds , the watch has some heat up during charge .
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kimbap said:
my mistake , anyway how long do yall get it fully charged? mine take pretty fast , can see percentage move up 1% in a few seconds , the watch has some heat up during charge .
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30 mins :good:

king conan said:
I use a genuine samsung charger (From a S4) and it gets hot too. I don't we should worry...
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Does it gets hot when charging directly from a laptop? The charger of a S4 probably deliveres around 1200mA where a laptop usually does only around 500.. A tablet charger even more..
I think quick charging (many times) is no good for battery life on long term! Except when the internal charging chip does limit it the right way. But when it gets hot[emoji6]
BTW Correct me if I'm wrong..
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Mine limits it at ~540mamps from 2A wall charger. Also, never seen it really hot, warm yes, very warm yes, but not dangerously hot.

I have bought a Sony Smartwatch 3 for my husband for Christmas but I have no idea about power adapters and am afraid to use the wrong one. The Sony site simply recommends we use Sony adapters (of course they would) but they don't even say which one or what spec is required. In our household we have adapters for the following devices:
Nexus 4
Nexus 5
Nexus 7 (both versions)
Nexus 10
Different chargers have different specs and I don't know whether this is all important. Can I use any of these chargers with their cables (as I think the watch cable is rather short too)? I don't want to damage the watch using the wrong power adapter. I'm in the UK.

I got my watch yesterday and today I broke the plastic hinge on the charging port cover.
It's not completely broken thankfully just bent over, be careful they are not very strong.

2 hours to fully charge
It takes me 2 hours to fully charged (from can't switch on at all till showing 100%)
I am using the Samsung Note 3 Original Charger with the original Sony Cable provided.
Anyhow, this is my second time charging my watch.. have to monitor....

I used usb cable to charge my SW3, power-on from 0% to 100%. It took me almost 1 hour. At the beginning, the percetage was aurgemented very quickly. But at the end it took 12min from 99% to 100%

Calvin Gross said:
I used usb cable to charge my SW3, power-on from 0% to 100%. It took me almost 1 hour. At the beginning, the percetage was aurgemented very quickly. But at the end it took 12min from 99% to 100%
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it is normal, the last percents are charged slower, that phase is called "topping off", uses low and/or pulsed current

It doesnt mater beacuse usb can power 5v devices so you can charge it ..... I would prefer the charger of nexus 5

5V, 3amps
the Snapdragon 400 has Quick Charge 2.0 that can draw as much as 3 amps. My samsung galaxy note 3 charger is only 2 amps, but already charges the watch fairly quick.

kimbap said:
stupid design , its not easy to put the cable into the mini usb port
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I'll take the difficult port with the ability to charge with a cable I almost certainly have close by any day. I would love to have Qi charging, but when I'm overusing my watch at work or on the go and need to charge, no problem. I have a micro-USB cable close by. I wouldn't have a Qi charging station with me at all times.

I use a right angled cable, makes it much easier to pop the cable into the port. And those people who have broken the cover or are having difficulty, are you gorillas or something?

TheeDesecrator said:
I'll take the difficult port with the ability to charge with a cable I almost certainly have close by any day. I would love to have Qi charging, but when I'm overusing my watch at work or on the go and need to charge, no problem. I have a micro-USB cable close by. I wouldn't have a Qi charging station with me at all times.
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This x10000. Just better placement would of been nicer.
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Just thought of something else (that's actually on topic). I use the micro-USB that came with my Harmony 700 remote (I have 2 and both cables fit the same). It is actually a loose fit so it slides in and out of the Smartwatch 3 quite nicely. My girlfriend used to use it in her S3 but it kept popping out so I took it for my watch and found it works wonders. Since the SW3 seems to have a tighter fit micro-USB port, using a looser cable works nicely. It still stays in, but is so much easier to get in and out.

Choetech Fast Wireless Charger

I received my charger from Choetech yesterday and tested it with my moto 360 as well as a few of my other devices.
I figured that I should post my review (from amazon) up here due to the testing on the moto 360. I have bolded that parts people here will be interested in.
http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Char...r=1-1&keywords=choetech+fast+wireless+charger
First, this is an amazing charger. Choetech always makes good products.
I received this in 2 days and set about testing it.
I was going to make a video showing off this thing fast charging on a Samsung Galaxy Note 5 but I see that there are already 2 excellent videos up showing that. So instead I will show you the things they did not highlight as much.
OK, the quick charge 2.0 wall plug you can get with this is the best one I have ever tried. Just like the other Qualcomm certified chargers, you will get the self adjusting voltages (12v-9v-5v) to give you a super fast charge. The extra you get with this Choetech quick charge 2.0 adapter is the USB port on it is reversible! This is the first charger I have seen with this and I now think everything should have this.
Ok now to the real reason you are reading this. The charging puck itself is a nice clean looking puck.
It is defiantly thicker than the cheapo ones you get for a few dollars. It has some heft to it making it feel more premium.
It has rubber top and bottom to keep both the charger from slipping on your desk or the phone from slipping on top the charger.
It will most defiantly charge your Note 5 or other Samsung devices quickly.
It will also charge your older devices as well. I tested it on a few LG phones in addition to the Note 5.
I noticed no abnormal warmth from the charger or any of the phones I tested this with. This is a very welcome thing as most of my other qi chargers do have heat issues.
One final thing, I tested this charger on my moto 360 and it charged it flawlessly. Most qi chargers fail here and will overheat this watch, this one did not and it charged my moto 360 from 19% to full in about 35 minutes. that is about 15 minutes faster than the stock charger does.
I received this product in exchange for an honest review, this does not affect my opinion of this product.

The fast charging works for a Note 5 or S6 Edge+, right? As far as I know that's a requirement as the new charger operates at a higher voltage.

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The fast charging works for a Note 5 or S6 Edge+, right? As far as I know that's a requirement as the new charger operates at a higher voltage.
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It will fast charge at a higher voltage on a Note 5 or S6 Edge+, but will work at normal speeds on every other Qi enabled device, including our moto 360.

Milimbar said:
I received my charger from Choetech yesterday and tested it with my moto 360 as well as a few of my other devices.
I figured that I should post my review (from amazon) up here due to the testing on the moto 360. I have bolded that parts people here will be interested in.
http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Char...r=1-1&keywords=choetech+fast+wireless+charger
First, this is an amazing charger. Choetech always makes good products.
I received this in 2 days and set about testing it.
I was going to make a video showing off this thing fast charging on a Samsung Galaxy Note 5 but I see that there are already 2 excellent videos up showing that. So instead I will show you the things they did not highlight as much.
OK, the quick charge 2.0 wall plug you can get with this is the best one I have ever tried. Just like the other Qualcomm certified chargers, you will get the self adjusting voltages (12v-9v-5v) to give you a super fast charge. The extra you get with this Choetech quick charge 2.0 adapter is the USB port on it is reversible! This is the first charger I have seen with this and I now think everything should have this.
Ok now to the real reason you are reading this. The charging puck itself is a nice clean looking puck.
It is defiantly thicker than the cheapo ones you get for a few dollars. It has some heft to it making it feel more premium.
It has rubber top and bottom to keep both the charger from slipping on your desk or the phone from slipping on top the charger.
It will most defiantly charge your Note 5 or other Samsung devices quickly.
It will also charge your older devices as well. I tested it on a few LG phones in addition to the Note 5.
I noticed no abnormal warmth from the charger or any of the phones I tested this with. This is a very welcome thing as most of my other qi chargers do have heat issues.
One final thing, I tested this charger on my moto 360 and it charged it flawlessly. Most qi chargers fail here and will overheat this watch, this one did not and it charged my moto 360 from 19% to full in about 35 minutes. that is about 15 minutes faster than the stock charger does.
I received this product in exchange for an honest review, this does not affect my opinion of this product.
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Seems they have a cheaper standard wireless charger for other Qi enabled device. Same design but cheaper at 20 bucks.
Link: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B013AB620C

RAM LILA said:
Seems they have a cheaper standard wireless charger for other Qi enabled device. Same design but cheaper at 20 bucks.
Link: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B013AB620C
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I have not tried it but I would assume with how well the fast charge one works, the cheaper one should also work to charge out watches without overheating them.

Interesting charger! Are wireless chargers efficient and as quick as cabled chargers? How long does it complete 100% charging your phone?

MonaSpencer said:
Interesting charger! Are wireless chargers efficient and as quick as cabled chargers? How long does it complete 100% charging your phone?
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Just from experience, no science here.
A normal Qi charger will take about 2 times as long to charge your phone as a standard 2a charger.
This fast Qi charger is about the same speed on a compatible phone as a normal cable charger.
The fastest way to charge is with a qualcom certified quick charger and phone, that is significantly faster than a standard charger.

Think I'll pick one up,no overheating,that's worth it alone.

Z5 fast charging

Hi.
I've came from a note 4 with fast charging to a z5p with supposed fast charging. The difference in battery capacity isn't too much. However, the z5 charges so much slower. I've tried multiple quick charge certified wall plugs and a quick charge 2.0 powerbank, the official wire and other wires as well as my old note charger plus wire.
Is this a fault in the firmware or a fault with the phone?
I get the results with the note what I expect. However with the z5 it feels like going back in time with a 'normal charger'

Mines been okay, I even have an Aukey fast charger and it's at the same pace.
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simbob86uk said:
Hi.
I've came from a note 4 with fast charging to a z5p with supposed fast charging. The difference in battery capacity isn't too much. However, the z5 charges so much slower. I've tried multiple quick charge certified wall plugs and a quick charge 2.0 powerbank, the official wire and other wires as well as my old note charger plus wire.
Is this a fault in the firmware or a fault with the phone?
I get the results with the note what I expect. However with the z5 it feels like going back in time with a 'normal charger'
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I've noticed that quick charging isn't as fast too...I have three quick chargers and all three have worked great for phones like the S6, Nexus 6 and even the Zenfone 2.....I'm going to run my phone down to less than 5% and then watch to see how long it takes to get to 100%. It could be due to the Z5 Premium having a very big battery (3450mah I believe)....My Nexus 6 seems to be the fastest to charge...I have seen it literally go from 10% to 65% in 20 minutes.

I'll try my luck this week and report back for you guys.
As an aside though, I've typically avoided using QC2.0 unless I'm super desperate. That kind of heat and power going to the battery just screams "device killer" to me. I've used it on a Nexus 6, HTC One M9, and a Z3 - same heat issues across the board. I think I'll be relying on my faithful Aukey's standard USB ports. (Aukey PA-T1 54W 5 Port USB charger, fwiw)

Please let us know. So far the assumed quick charge 2.0 is a let down. Be back off to Samsung if not sorted

simbob86uk said:
Please let us know. So far the assumed quick charge 2.0 is a let down. Be back off to Samsung if not sorted
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Not OP but been using the Z5P for the past few days... QC 2.0 is pretty fast, but not as fast as I expected it to be. As far as heat is concerned, I've had no issues from it overheating while charging.

fancymans said:
Not OP but been using the Z5P for the past few days... QC 2.0 is pretty fast, but not as fast as I expected it to be. As far as heat is concerned, I've had no issues from it overheating while charging.
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Sony is notoriously conservative when it comes to battery charging. For example the Z3 only used QC2.0 to allow more flexibility in charger cabling - battery current was limited to only 1.5A. With a normal charger you could only hit this if the screen was off with an extremely short cable, with QC2.0 you could hit it even with a thin (more flexible) MicroUSB cable with a right-angle connector that would cripple charging on most phones.

Probe not noticing the results as well with always being on the phone

I bought this one from aukey for €15,- and in dollars like $20

I purchased the aukey quick charge 2.0 charger. It operates fine with my old note 4. So I see this as Sony issue

The device is most definitely using QC2.0 for power input - my Powergen wall charger turns green when the Z5P is plugged in.
Edit: If I'm reading the kernel source correctly, charge current is 2.3A with no step charging. https://github.com/sonyxperiadev/ke...com/msm8994-kitakami_satsuki_common.dtsi#L986 - No way will you hit that without QC2.0 except MAYBE if the screen is off and your USB cable is 3 inches long.
Z5 non-premium is 2.1A with no step charging, Z5C is 2.1A below 65% and 1.5A above 65%

my z5p came with a 2.0 UCH-10 charger from sony http://blog.clove.co.uk/2015/06/12/sony-uch10-quick-charger-coming-soon/

Thanks for the input. Any idea about the drop after 65%?

simbob86uk said:
Thanks for the input. Any idea about the drop after 65%?
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That only applies to the Z5 Compact. Smaller battery makes it easier to stress it. In general, rapid-charging a battery is far more stressful above 60-65% charge than it is below this, which is why so many companies specified "time to 60%" specs - because nearly all of them drop the current past 65%. The Z5P seems to be an exception - it has a lower charge rate (compared to the battery size) below 65%, but maintains this charge rate up to the CC/CV transition point (usually 80-85%).
Rapid charging past the CC/CV transition point cannot be done safely.

Xtorm Wireless Fast Charging

Hello,
The SONY wireless charger (WCH20) dedicated to the ZX2 being sold € 100 (with a power of 9W), I preferred this one: XW202 - Xtorm Wireless Fast Charging Pad (QI) Freedom, at the price of 39 €.
The built-in LED lights indicate when your phone is charged. With its high 10-Watt output, wireless charging with this device is even faster!
And you use wireless charging?

Oh, good to know we have alternatives to the official overpriced charger.
I think i saw an official Statement somewhere saying IntelligentBatterySaver doesn't work over WirelessCharging? Not sure though....
if you ever have the chance, can you do me a Favour and download this app: BatteryLog and take a log during Charging from around 5% to 100%?
There is an Export Log button which saves into .csv

Haldi4803 said:
Oh, good to know we have alternatives to the official overpriced charger.
I think i saw an official Statement somewhere saying IntelligentBatterySaver doesn't work over WirelessCharging? Not sure though....
if you ever have the chance, can you do me a Favour and download this app: BatteryLog and take a log during Charging from around 5% to 100%?
There is an Export Log button which saves into .csv
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I don't know if it helps you, but I tried the app last night, here is my log. I am using a wireless charger by Ravpower.

ryotaru said:
I don't know if it helps you, but I tried the app last night, here is my log. I am using a wireless charger by Ravpower.
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Very good.
Glad to know Qnovo Charging Technology is also working over Qi Wireless charging.
But it's charging very slowly... 20% per Hour ^^

Another wireless charger
I also tried the same with the following charger. Let me know if this helps you.
Also, I am on Android P beta.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01M0IL0QX/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

pakole said:
Also, I am on Android P beta.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01M0IL0QX/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Oh.... now that's strange...
Seems like Qnovo Charging is working in P via Wireless....
Because when i tried on P via Cable it didn't work.

hi guys....
im planning to buy a good fast wireless charger with a reasonable price..... and i prefer the stand than the old style circular... so i found that one in ebay...
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Wireless-C...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649
its a 10W fast charge compatible aslo works with usb type c.... i like the design too!
please check it and let me know what you think!

i use wpow wireles charger 20 watts it is fast

10W too high?
Will the said 10W charger damage the battery? The official chargers are all 9W.

karrouma said:
i use wpow wireles charger 20 watts it is fast
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can you please clarify exactly what this is and where you acquired it "wpow" means absolutely nothing to most people and gives nothing on google
many thx

I bought this fir 15gbp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOIhj8_Xz5g

Got a cheap fast charge alternative recommendation to Sony's own and the Anker Powerwave series.
It's the Omars 15-watt charger. $17 at Amazon. Comes in two styles, flat pad and rotatable puck. The latter rotates so you can have it flat or at a slight angle, which is nice. The rubber top keeps the phone from sliding as their is no lip to catch it.
I have the rotating one and measured up to 1.3A peaks during a 15%to 100% charge. Only downside is it has no fan, but again, it's only $17. Took about 2.75 hours from 15% and looks to respect the QNovo charging current slowing.
It's one of the first, true 15 watt certified chargers (at least the iLuv version below is). The LED indicator is one of the few out there that will reflect regular or quick charging. It shows the XZ2 as fast charge capable. Whoopie.
The Amazon version doesn't come with a charger so you have to supply your own. And make sure it's a true QC 2.0/3.0 charger or it will blink a mean red LED at you and flat out won't work, which I think is a wise move on their part.
Looks like iLuv will be reselling the flat pad version under their own name (and at a higher price, saw it at $40 on eBay, but it comes with a charger).

Has anyone found a magnetic qi charger that supports fast charge on the xz2.
I have tries many fast charger and they only deliver a max of 5w.
I am trying to find something that charger faster for my car.

Looking for good wireless charger ~$20

Any suggestions? New to the wireless charging. 1st and last device I had that supported it was the Nexus 6 and with a case it didn't work so I gave up.
US based

Are you in the US?

sway40 said:
Are you in the US?
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Yes

I am interested, too -- thanks!

Novakingwai said:
Yes
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Best buy has a bundle deal with the pixel stand and it knocks the stand down to 59 dollars with a few other eligible bundle items.

Novakingwai said:
Any suggestions? New to the wireless charging. 1st and last device I had that supported it was the Nexus 6 and with a case it didn't work so I gave up.
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I've had good luck with choetech products in the past. they have several wireless chargers, haven't tried any of the newer ones but they've pretty much been my go-to since the 6p and switching to usb c

This will be my first wireless charger.
Do we need to buy a certain type/spec or just buy any old wireless charger off of Amazon?
I'd like to find a slim matt-style to lay on my bedroom nightstand to just dump my phone on top of when I go to bed.
So in that sense, I'm fine with super slow charging.

CZ Eddie said:
This will be my first wireless charger.
Do we need to buy a certain type/spec or just buy any old wireless charger off of Amazon?
I'd like to find a slim matt-style to lay on my bedroom nightstand to just dump my phone on top of when I go to bed.
So in that sense, I'm fine with super slow charging.
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it can do 10w, but in that case the older 5w ones will do. that said, back in the Nexus days I loved having the phone at an angle as a bedside clock (in fact, that's what my n7 is still primarily used for lol) so you may want to consider a stand charger.

So look for a 5W or 10W charger (or something in between), okay cool, thanks.
seriously yeah, I know that little about wireless.

Look for fast charge support and decide on a form factor. The small circles usually have a smaller sweet spot and by being smaller themselves make it easier for your phone to get bumped off of charge by kids, the dog, whatever, bumping the surface the charger is on. I'd consider spending a little more and getting a more stable platform rather than go with the small stuff. As said above if you want to see the phone on charge then you're going to need a vertical charger and you're going to need to decide if you want it in landscape or portrait and get a charger designed for that. If you're looking for a charger for use at a desk or in a working environment I would certainly lean toward upright so you can used your calculator and other tools while on charge. If you just want to flop it down to charge without any use of the phone then the lay flat versions tend to be cheaper.

Just bought two to try out on Amazon. Going to test them out on my Pixel 3 Xl and my ladies iPhone xs. Both chargers were under $20 each.

Novakingwai said:
Any suggestions? New to the wireless charging. 1st and last device I had that supported it was the Nexus 6 and with a case it didn't work so I gave up.
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Caseology has a fast 10w wireless charger for 50% off on Amazon with a promo code, comes to about 20 bucks.....check my Caseology thread in accessories (it's a circular charger though, not the stand type)

I've bought this one and their wireless car charger and they both work great! I'd recommend them.
https://guru-gadgets.com/collection...cts/baseus-10w-qi-wireless-charger-for-iphone

CZ Eddie said:
So look for a 5W or 10W charger (or something in between), okay cool, thanks.
seriously yeah, I know that little about wireless.
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I just bought a pair of Nanami wireless stands from Amazon, 10 watts. It does do a fast charge, phone says charging rapidly. $26.00 with the charging brick, $16.00 without. I'm using the brick at my PC desk, and it's plugged into a 45 watt charger in my living room. Runs icy cool and really works well.
I say icy cool because I have an older Qi charger. The pad and the phone ran pretty warm which concerned me a bit.
The stand puts it at a nice viewing angle and makes the phone quite usable while charging.
This is NOT a paid endorsement
Lots of positive reviews.

There are standup wireless dock stations??
I need to Google this!

I have this one, it works and since I use it at night I don't care how long it takes to charge my phone.
AP has an article that says the Pixel 3 won't charge at more than 5W unless you have the Pixel stand. That's pretty lame on Google's part. It says the phone reports "charging rapidly" but really isn't. See here .

All of you might as well save your money and just get a decent one limited to 5w because that's what Google limited the pixel to for 3rd part wireless chargers

For everyone with wireless chargers can you kindly install Ampere from the playstore to confirm if any of them are charging above 500Mah ?

daleski75 said:
For everyone with wireless chargers can you kindly install Ampere from the playstore to confirm if any of them are charging above 500Mah ?
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I can confirm the pixel stand is charging faster than 500Mah.

daleski75 said:
For everyone with wireless chargers can you kindly install Ampere from the playstore to confirm if any of them are charging above 500Mah ?
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I can confirm that the Pixel Stand charges faster, but not the other fast wireless chargers that I have. The Seneo wireless charger that I have at my desk at work is only charging at ~500mA in spite of the fact that the phone indicates that it is "charging rapidly". I sincerely hope that Google fixes this and quickly.