Trying to go back from stock from 4.4.3 Pacman - possible? - AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III

I keep getting errors in Odin and it's likely due to what I'm trying to flash. Is there a 4.4.x official stock rom? Do I have to use 4.3 instead?

What bootloader and baseband is on your phone?
Don't use Odin to try and flash any ROM that attempts to downgrade your bootloader if your bootloader is 4.3 or higher.

I would say whatever is the latest based on the 4.4.3 Pacman rom I've been using. I already wiped the phone so I have no idea what it currently is

if you go to settings > about phone, you can get baseband version.
if you have terminal emulator, type in
getprop ro.bootloader and will give your bootloader version.
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andy_d0 said:
I would say whatever is the latest based on the 4.4.3 Pacman rom I've been using. I already wiped the phone so I have no idea what it currently is
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If you have the stock 4.1.1 or 4.1.2 bootloader, you could flash the stock 4.1.1 ATT ROM from sammobile.com. If you have the 4.3 or newer bootloader, you cannot flash any stock ROMs from sammobile.com using Odin. You must use a ROM that is designed to be flashed via Odin or a custom recovery.

audit13 said:
If you have the stock 4.1.1 or 4.1.2 bootloader, you could flash the stock 4.1.1 ATT ROM from sammobile.com. If you have the 4.3 or newer bootloader, you cannot flash any stock ROMs from sammobile.com using Odin. You must use a ROM that is designed to be flashed via Odin or a custom recovery.
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:good: much better explanation. thanks audit13.
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audit13 said:
If you have the stock 4.1.1 or 4.1.2 bootloader, you could flash the stock 4.1.1 ATT ROM from sammobile.com. If you have the 4.3 or newer bootloader, you cannot flash any stock ROMs from sammobile.com using Odin. You must use a ROM that is designed to be flashed via Odin or a custom recovery.
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OK thanks. So that means I have to use someone's rom because I've flashed a rom that is further along in updates than what Samsung / at&t has done?
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ROMs dont 'usually' (or ever) include bootloaders. so , if i'm not mistaken it still depends on your bootloader version. i have flashed many KK ROMs on 'old' MJ2 bootloaders.
bootloaders and ROMs are two separate things.
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Thanks guys! I ended up figuring out what my bootloader ( MJB ) was by using the terminal window in TWRP. After that I searched for MJB and saw it was based on 4.3. Anyway, I used this as well..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2789917
To get back to stock

good job
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I went back to stock just by flashing the stock ROM in cwm.

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what AOSP based roms are compatible with MJB bootloader?

hi.
and thanks.
I have tried a few 4.4.2 ROMS and they all loaded on my 4.1.2 bootloader so I would assume they would load on your phone's newer bootloader.
If you're not sure, you can look at the ROM's updater script to make sure.
audit13 said:
I have tried a few 4.4.2 ROMS and they all loaded on my 4.1.2 bootloader so I would assume they would load on your phone's newer bootloader.
If you're not sure, you can look at the ROM's updater script to make sure.
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are you or were you with MJB bootloader when tried 442 roms?
thanks
hormosapiens said:
are you or were you with MJB bootloader when tried 442 roms?
thanks
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I don't recall which bootloader I had but I never had 4.3 on my phone; therefore, I never had Knox. I was able to load 4.4.2 ROMs with the stock 4.1.2 bootloader.
I know my bootloader is older than 4.3 because I was able to flash a stock 4.1.1 ROM onto my 4.1.2 ROM using desktop Odin. I unlocked my phone while on 4.1.1 and flashed back to stock 4.1.2. The stock ROMs from samfirmware include bootloaders and modems.

[Q]Need clarification for rooted rogers note 2, android 4.4

Hello, I recently just updated my Rogers SGH-i317M to 4.3, which then downloaded a system update which put it at 4.4. I was running Jedi X20, which is based on 4.1.2, when I first tried updating, I flashed the "4.3param_tz" file in odin, and was left with an error screen saying I need to recover using Kies, so I downloaded the official release, flashed via odin, and thats how I got to where I am now. I want to try the "Ditto Note 3" rom, "Sky Note Air 4.3", "Mean Bean" and "Beanstalk". My main question is, can I just start flashing these roms like I was before on 4.1.2, or do I need to use the specific kernel listed on their page? Before you needed a specific kernel to run a touchwiz rom or an aosp rom, so is it still the same? Or can I use my stock 4.4 kernel and try both aosp and tw roms now? If so could you point out the kernels I would need? And educate me on anything else I should know about before flashing 4.3 and 4.4 roms, (I'm not worried about warranty), this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for your time in reading this and helping me out, much appreciated!!
Regardless of where u are, I'd Odin to Rogers stock KK 4.4.2. Then Odin Twrp recovery, boot into twrp recovery and flash SU v.1.99. Finally choose your rom and flash away. This way you are on the lastest KK 4.4.2 Bootloader and KK Modem/Baseband.
just_visiting said:
Regardless of where u are, I'd Odin to Rogers stock KK 4.4.2. Then Odin Twrp recovery, boot into twrp recovery and flash SU v.1.99. Finally choose your rom and flash away. This way you are on the lastest KK 4.4.2 Bootloader and KK Modem/Baseband.
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I did all that except flash SU 1.99, so I tried flashing SKynote Air and it didnt work, upon restarting my phone it said no os is available. So I tried restoring from the backup I made of the official 4.4.2 Samsung rom in twrp, didn't work. Tried Odin, didn't work. Then I tried flashing the Skynote rom again and it worked. So I'm afraid of flashing any other roms now.

Going back to stock from cm11?

I'm on cm11 m9 and it's been acting hellafunky lately, so I figured I'd switch back to stock to see if that cleared it up. I know TW is still on 4.4.3 but I can't find a flashable image of it anywhere. Is it possible to go back to stock, or are the cm bootloaders and such to new to be able to do this without bricking the device?
What bootloader is on your phone? Is it an i747 or i747m?
If you are on 4.3 or higher, you cannot flash back to stock unless you use a ROM that has been specifically compiled for flashing in Odin.
audit13 said:
What bootloader is on your phone? Is it an i747 or i747m?
If you are on 4.3 or higher, you cannot flash back to stock unless you use a ROM that has been specifically compiled for flashing in Odin.
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On bootloader NE4, I was able to flash back to to stock using the image in here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=56510020
Everything is working swimmingly.
'ENEWMAN17' threads are the most helpful when it comes to returning an SGS3 device back to stock KitKat ROM. You must strictly adhere to his instructions. Good luck!
Iv flashed my cm11 back to stock using cwm and flashing a odexed 4.4.2 samsung rom without any problems.
slicetwo said:
On bootloader NE4, I was able to flash back to to stock using the image in here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=56510020
Everything is working swimmingly.
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If the phone is an i747m, I recommend getting a stock ROM from sammobile. com. I'm not sure if a bootloader and modem file is included in the enewman17's thread but flashing an i747 bootloader and modem onto an i747m could result in a brick.

Rom selection

Ive been searching for awhile now but at work is my only time to do so and time is limited.. I am searching for a rom to run with ucdmg2 bootloader. I'm not really feeling up to updating the bootloader using odin.
hatchguy06 said:
Ive been searching for awhile now but at work is my only time to do so and time is limited.. I am searching for a rom to run with ucdmg2 bootloader. I'm not really feeling up to updating the bootloader using odin.
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Do you have a custom recovery installed?
You didn't say, but I can infer that you have an i747 and not an i747M based on the MG2 bootloader.
Without a custom recovery you are stuck using Odin to get a custom recovery in order to flash anything other than a stock rom. There are recovery flashable bootloader and modem files for 4.3 and newer bootloaders and modems.
With the 4.1.2 bootlaoder and modem you could run Jellybean roms from CM ( CM10.x ) or those based on CM or AOSP. There may be a few AOSP bassed on KitKat you could use, but it would probably be a version that is more than a year and a half old. Anything newer will need a 4.4.2 bootloader.
dawgdoc said:
Do you have a custom recovery installed?
You didn't say, but I can infer that you have an i747 and not an i747M based on the MG2 bootloader.
Without a custom recovery you are stuck using Odin to get a custom recovery in order to flash anything other than a stock rom. There are recovery flashable bootloader and modem files for 4.3 and newer bootloaders and modems.
With the 4.1.2 bootlaoder and modem you could run Jellybean roms from CM ( CM10.x ) or those based on CM or AOSP. There may be a few AOSP bassed on KitKat you could use, but it would probably be a version that is more than a year and a half old. Anything newer will need a 4.4.2 bootloader.
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Yes I'm running the newest cwm recovery at the moment. so I guess ill track down a cm10 rom ..
hatchguy06 said:
Yes I'm running the newest cwm recovery at the moment. so I guess ill track down a cm10 rom ..
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If you haven't found one yet, check here: https://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=d2att&type=snapshot
Don't forget GApps.

Flash New bootloader and modem while on Old Rom?

I have a Canadian Galaxy S3, on 4.1.1 DLK4 Official. I rooted it, and have TWRP.
I want to upgrade my rom to a CM12/13 but of course with root and custom recovery, OTA updates are blocked.
I need newer bootloaders and modem to run the newer android versions.
Should I install them now, while on 4.1.1, and then flash CM12, or should I sequentially update each of the AT&T firmwares until I get up to 4.4.2?
Do official roms have the bootloaders and modems in them and install them automatically?
Should I use the Kies restore method?
The Canadian and att s3 phones are not the same model number. Don't flash an att bootloader to your Canadian phone as this may brick the phone.
Flash latest stock rom from Sammobile.com, flash twrp, flash cm.
audit13 said:
The Canadian and att s3 phones are not the same model number. Don't flash an att bootloader to your Canadian phone as this may brick the phone.
Flash latest stock rom from Sammobile.com, flash twrp, flash cm.
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Okay, but i can use AT&T roms tho?
The i747m will work with d2can, d2lte, and d2att Roms.
Is it safe to flash straight from 4.1.1 to 4.4.2 using a sammobile rom? will i brick due to Knox bootloader and modem?
Can I flash it using TWRP?
If someone could link a tutorial that would be very helpful.
I keep reading stuff that says to flash the newer bootloader before flashing a 4.3 firmware, and some that say the opposite. Others say that people should incrementally update.
I want to go from 4.1.1 original with Root and TWRP, to CM13.
Thank you.
Yes, you can flash the latest stock 4.4.2 rom from Sammobile.com directly to your phone. No need to do anything other than backing up your data.
audit13 said:
Yes, you can flash the latest stock 4.4.2 rom from Sammobile.com directly to your phone. No need to do anything other than backing up your data.
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Thank you!
Now I just need to get the balls again to use odin. Flashing the custom recovery using the Universal Tool Kit that had step by step walkthrough was adrenaline rush enough LOL.
I could also use Kies, as that has 4.4.2 OB3 (telus), and also has "emergency firmware recovery" feature if a brick ever happens. Though ideally the only time boot.img gets flashed is only with Full Stock Firmware files.
I find kies to be unreliable when I have tried to restore firmware so I always stuck with Odin.

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