Related
So my father recently got the GN2, but he's really disliking the battery drain compared to his old iPhone 4. He said that he could finish the day with about 70% battery leftover, whereas, Note leaves him with around 30-40%. I checked his battery usage and there's about 12-17% coming from Polaris 4.0. I already disabled it, but for some reason, it's still draining his battery. Is there anything I can do to improve his overall battery life as well as stop Polaris from being used?
Uninstall it or is it a stock app?
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using xda app-developers app
michaelatrix said:
Uninstall it or is it a stock app?
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Stock app, unfortunately. I have no intention of rooting it since I haven't done that in a long time and I'm just not confident with messing around with someone else's phone.
Also, I know it's a problem specific to mine since other people don't root there's and they don't have this problem.
Does anyone else know a possible issue?
Try going in and force stopping the app. I noticed apps will continue to run after disabled on occasion. Then reboot and see if it fires up again. That should stop the battery drain. N2 gets great battery life.
Does your father use the app? If not go to settings/application manager select polaris. You should see a disable or uninstall updates button. If it is the updates one, select it then go back in and hit disable button after it is done. This will remove the app from the system but not the app file itself. Will keep it from ever running again until you decide to enable it again. No root needed.
Sent from the Millennium Falcon
OP stated he has already disabled the app but it continues to run/drain the battery.
Froid said:
OP stated he has already disabled the app but it continues to run/drain the battery.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, I already disabled it. I checked again today and it didn't seem to be draining battery life.
After around 12 hours of use, he only has around 60-65% left. He doesn't use the phone as much as some other people, so I'm surprised it drains as much as it does.
I'd say that's about right on stock with everything running. you could always disable everything he doesn't use and see if that helps. Also check for wake locks. I disabled fast dormancy and saw a major improvement on wake locks. Not sure if that's possible without root, but worth looking in to.
Froid said:
OP stated he has already disabled the app but it continues to run/drain the battery.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Oops. Missed that.
Sent from the Millennium Falcon
Root, install Better Battery Stats, find the culprit. If uninstalling Polaris doesn't help, it could be something else.
S-Pen detection, motion settings, smart-stay, etc are all drainers. Disable them if he doesn't use them.
Location services drain too. Try installing Autostarts and disable unnecessary startups. I get a good 2-2.5 days out of the phone with ~5+ hours of screen time after doing the above.
silentecho13 said:
Root, install Better Battery Stats, find the culprit. If uninstalling Polaris doesn't help, it could be something else.
S-Pen detection, motion settings, smart-stay, etc are all drainers. Disable them if he doesn't use them.
Location services drain too. Try installing Autostarts and disable unnecessary startups. I get a good 2-2.5 days out of the phone with ~5+ hours of screen time after doing the above.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for the tips. Didn't think about motion and s pen detection.
silentecho13 said:
Root, install Better Battery Stats, find the culprit. If uninstalling Polaris doesn't help, it could be something else.
S-Pen detection, motion settings, smart-stay, etc are all drainers. Disable them if he doesn't use them.
Location services drain too. Try installing Autostarts and disable unnecessary startups. I get a good 2-2.5 days out of the phone with ~5+ hours of screen time after doing the above.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Good point on the S-Pen features. I disabled some. His active battery usage is quite good, but he says the standby is terrible.
UPDATE: Wanted to add from personal experience that these tricks all work on 4.4 KitKat ROMs. This information isn't stale
This guide should work for any Android phone running any ROM. (Though you do have to be rooted for most of these options. Nothing is THAT simple!)
The goal is to reduce your battery drain when your phone is idle. Nothing in this guide will improve your battery life when the phone is in use. But it will keep the battery from draining quickly (actually it will nearly keep it from draining at all) when the screen it off and the phone is not in use. And the battery savings can be extreme! As I write this guide my phone it has been 4 days, 15 hours, and 9 minutes since I last unplugged my Galaxy S4. I have 33% battery life remaining. You can have this too!
These fixes are not your typical "Lower screen brightness and delete carreir bloatware and disable auto syncing" tips. (Though all that stuff is still a good idea)
You can try all of these techniques or just some of them. Some of them will break features of your phone and might not be good options for you. Only you can decide if these fixes are right for you.
Special thanks for Mike216 and Penko956 for the endless research they did Greenifying, freezing, and disabling they did on just about every system and app on thier phone to see what all could be disabled. And to Torbitege who initially helped figure all this out with me for the HTC Sensation.
First off, what's using your battery?
If you're not already familiar with Better Battery Stats, fix that about yourself. Download it. Use it. Love it.
This app will run in the background constantly monitoring what's using your system resources 24 hours a day. It will tell you what apps are causing wakelocks, which are waking the device, etc etc etc.
The app won't do anything to help your battery life. But it will give you the information you need to adjust problematic apps.
Wakelocks and Battery Drain caused by Google Services
The battery saving impact is major.
This is my personal favorite battery saving technique. But it's not right for everyone, so read thoroughly.
Basically Google thinks your phone belongs to Google. Google Services runs A LOT even when you're not using the phone. This causes a ton of wakelocks and wake ups that use battery. I hate that. So I stopped it with a simple mod to the Google Services Framework.
Here's how....
This is a good old fashioned dirty fix, as it breaks some things. Most push notifications WILL NOT WORK AFTER DOING THIS!!!!! So this is not for everyone!!!! You've been warned. Please don't complain later in the thread that you aren't getting new mail or Twitter or whatever notifications after doing this. You're being told up front they will probably not work.
GTalk and GoogleNow (and maybe a few other things) will not work after doing this. Push notifications for any Google apps will also not work. They are casualties of the dirty fix. But if you're like me and never use GTalk or GNow this will help. Some other Google services might not work after this either. But if you're like me and the only Google service you use is the Play Store app, this will not affect you adversely. (Gmail and Google Maps run independantly of the Google Services framework and are not affected at all by this.)
Use this version of the fix for older Google Service Framework installs. You will know if you have a newer version if doing this install doesnt' prevent your wifi and data icons from turning blue (or whatever color your theme uses). If they turn blue, use the newer version below....
You need to download System Tuner from Google Play. The app will tell you to get Android Tuner instead. Don't do it. It doesn't have what you need. The icon is a blue suitcase with tools on it. Thats' the one you want.
First I froze GTalk and Gnow (Google Search). And no, you can't just freeze those two apps without touching the GSF. The GSF will still create wakelocks when trying to activate them even if they are not there. So you have to modify the GSF as well.
Go to System Tuner and select "Start Ups".
Then pick the Google Services Framework from the list and open it. You shoudl see a list of services.
Uncheck the things on the list below. (Basicall anything with GTalk or Checkin in the title)
gtalkservice.diagnostits.gtalkdiagnostics
gtalkservice.connection autherrordialog
talk.talkprovider
checkin.checinservices$reciever
checkin.checkinservices$triggerreciever
checkin.eventlogservices$receiver
gtalkservice.diagnostics.gtalkdiagnosticsbroadcast reciever
gtalkservice.serviceautostarter
gtalkservices.datamessagereciever
gtalkservice.sendxmppreciever
gtalkservices.packageinstalledreciever
gtalkservice.xmppendpointreciever
checkin.evenlogservice
gtalkservice.service.stalkservice
gtalkservice.pushmessagingregistar
You can freeze the GSF entirely with 1 easy step and that will also kill the wakelocks. But the Play Store becomes another casualty if you do that. Disabling the events above will stop the Google Services wakelocks dead in their tracks, and allow the Play Store to continue working. If you want to go that route you can do it but you'd have to unfreeze the GSF everytime you wanted to update an app.
Newer version if you have updated Google Service Framework.
Freeze the Google Services Framework entirely.
Profit.
Note: I haven't personally tried this and can't attest to it's viability to drawbacks. It was suggested by other members in this thread and confirmed to be working by several other people. Your miliage may vary.
One little quirk with both of the above versions is that when you turn on wifi or mobile data, the signal bars don't turn colors. They stay gray because you aren't connecting to the google servers anymore. (They normally change color to indicate that you are connected to the Google servers). After 1 day I stopped noticing they didn't change colors. Now it looks weird to me when I see them colored.
I highly recommend making a Nandroid backup before trying any of this. Once you go that, go nuts! You can't hurt too much when messing with the GSF because it will just shut down google elements. Worst case, you can always just reactivate everything, reboot, and it'll all work like it did before you messed with it. But if you accidentally disable Android System instead of Google Services, you will probably kill your ROM. So back a backup first.
And severely worst case, if you totally louse up your ROM, just restore the Nandroid and it'll all be back to normal in a flash. (Get it? In a 'flash'...haha I crack myself up)
The Greenify App Sollution
The battery saving impact is moderate.
This is one that you're just silly not to be doing.
Get the Greenify App from The Play Store
There is a free version. But its freakin' awesome so buy the donate version. It's $3 and the developer has more than earned it for the way he's making your phone awesome. (The donate version also includes some special experimental features. Read all about it. Do NOT just get the donate version. You need the free version too.)
This app basically lets your freeze any user app when you're not actively using it. And unfreeze it automatically when you want to open it again.
So if you have an app that likes to wake your device and run itself when you're not using the phone, you can just Greenify it and it will be prevented from using any system resources when you're not actively using the app.
You don't want to Greenify everything. Some apps need to run 24/7 like your messaing app, your phone app, etc. If you Greenify those you won't get messages or calls. The app is incredibly simple to us. You just select the app that's causing trouble and tell Greenify to 'go'. And it does the rest. It's just as easy to un-greenify an app if you greenify something you shouldn't have.
Not every app on your phone needs to be Greenified. Most apps behave themselves. Only do this to the ones that are showing as causing wakes or alarms or wakelocks in a battery monitor like Better Battery Stats.
Two that I will suggest for everyone to start with are Google Maps and T Mobile's My Account app. Both of these love to run when the phone is alseep.
If for whatever reason Greenify those apps hinders the way you use your phone, just ungreenify them! Simple as that.
Google Play Services and You
The battery saving impact is noticable.
Google Play Services wakes the phone a lot. It also does a lot. Read more about what all Google Play Services does here.
You have two options for this one. The first option is the nuclear option. Freeze Google Play Services outright. It will never bother you, but it might break some usefulness of other google apps.
The second option, thanks to XDA Member Karpfenhai , is to disable only certain aspects of the Google Play Services. This one uses the same technique mentioned above in the Google Services Framework Section, just different services to disable. (Thanks to Perseus71 for making me aware of this one and asking that it be included!) THIS HAS BEEN RECENTLY UPDATED
NEW PROBLEM AS OF MARCH 2015
The battery saving potential is ABSOLUTELY REQUIRED!
Since Google updated Play Services all hell has broken loose on custom roms. You get a persistent and unkillable wakelock for SystemUpdateManager.
The battery drain is horrendous. Your phone is awake and active 100% of the time.
This affects GPS version 7.0.97
I fixed this by going to the permissions manager (built into many aosp roms. If not available in your rom, consult yoir rom thread for ways to alter permissions) and disabling the permission in Google Play Services for "wake" and "keep awake".
Note: Some phones only show "keep awake". Just do that one if that is the case.
The problem is that on custom roms no ota is available. But Google tries to get it anyway. When it fails it doesn't shut down. It just keeps trying.
If the permissions method doesn't work, try this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/general/fix-fix-systemupdateservice-wakelock-t3060548
I
Just so you don't think I'm kidding around when I say you can severely increase your battery drain when idle, take a look at tehse screen shots from my Galaxy S4.
My specific set up is running CyanogenMod 10.1 nightlies with ChronicKernal. I haven't been using my phone much over the past 4 days. I have a total of 2 hours and 34 minutes screen on time and 40 minutes of phone calls during that period. So this is admittedly very light usage. But that's perfect to show you that these techniques really work to minimize battery drain when the phone is idle. And I promise you that your results will vary based on your ROM and Kernel.
This won't make the battery last longer during use. The screen will still burn a lot of battery and the cell radio does too. But if you want to make sure your phone will be charged when you need it without you having to carry a charger with you everywhere you go, these are the mods for you.
As you can see from these screen shots I am at 4 days, 16 hours, 50 minutes since unplugging. I have 31% battery left. (That's what the 31 in the upper left corner is. Thats' from an app called Big Battery Notifier. Its free on Play.)
The other screenshot is from Better Battery Stats showing my Alarms screen. Alarms are loosely the same as wakes. Everytime an app wakes the device (not neccessarily turning the screen on) it will record an alarm. If you look at your BBS alarms screen without these modifications I bet you see a lot more alarms than you see here, and keep in mind that mine screen show is showing 4 and a half days worth. Each one of those represents an app or service waking the device and using battery.
If the written instructions somehow baffle you, here's a video of the whole thing!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUBpOl77Tm4
This will show you step by step how to do all of this.
Thanks to XDA Member Chaitanyapatel8880 for his work in putting this video together
Just a note. If you convert Google Play Services to a User App (TB), you can then Greenify (free ver.) it. This works very well and does not affect other functions that may rely on that app.
I also Greenify Maps and Google Search. Two more heavy drainers. Convert to User App first.
*Note: You must use Greenify v1.82 to Hibernate Google Play Services! Search this thread for links to it.
Fwiw, my sleep drainage is 0.3 - 0.4%hr, with wifi on 24/7.
I get either 7-8 days standby, or so far, 5.5 days with 3.5 hours screen time, or likely 6-7hrs screen time single day. Screen shots are in my posts.
I would argue too that these settings/tweaks do indeed increase your battery time, since while sleeping, the battery is draining at a much lower rate, therefore keeping more juice for live time use.
Although you and I don't use all of the same "tweaking" programs, we do seem to be on the same mission. Better battery life! :good:
Pinan said:
Just a note. If you convert Google Play Services to a User App (TB), you can then Greenify (free ver.) it. This works very well and does not affect other functions that may rely on that app.
I also Greenify Maps and Google Search. Two more heavy drainers. Convert to User App first.
Fwiw, my sleep drainage is 0.3 - 0.4%hr, with wifi on 24/7.
I get either 7-8 days standby, or so far, 5.5 days with 3.5 hours screen time, or likely 6-7hrs screen time single day. Screen shots are in my posts.
I would argue too that these settings/tweaks do indeed increase your battery time, since while sleeping, the battery is draining at a much lower rate, therefore keeping more juice for live time use.
Although you and I don't use all of the same "tweaking" programs, we do seem to be on the same mission. Better battery life! :good:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I like your way of dealing with Google play services. I'll change the op later.
That doesn't break function of the play services to run as a user app?
Sent from your phone. You should be careful where you leave that thing.
Skipjacks said:
I like your way of dealing with Google play services. I'll change the op later.
That doesn't break function of the play services to run as a user app?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have not noticed any dysfunction, though there are likely some things I don't use. But for me it's been completely functional.
Besides, if I froze it, I'd have none of it's functions at all.
Pinan said:
Just a note. If you convert Google Play Services to a User App (TB), you can then Greenify (free ver.) it. This works very well and does not affect other functions that may rely on that app.
I also Greenify Maps and Google Search. Two more heavy drainers. Convert to User App first.
Fwiw, my sleep drainage is 0.3 - 0.4%hr, with wifi on 24/7.
I get either 7-8 days standby, or so far, 5.5 days with 3.5 hours screen time, or likely 6-7hrs screen time single day. Screen shots are in my posts.
I would argue too that these settings/tweaks do indeed increase your battery time, since while sleeping, the battery is draining at a much lower rate, therefore keeping more juice for live time use.
Although you and I don't use all of the same "tweaking" programs, we do seem to be on the same mission. Better battery life! :good:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
How do I convert those services to user apps?
Sent from my SGH-M919 using xda app-developers app
rodny23 said:
How do I convert those services to user apps?
Sent from my SGH-M919 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Titanium Backup will do it, I think you need the paid version though.
/System/App Mover is also good app for doing it. It's free on Google Play.
Dang right now Google services is at 41%
Sent from my SGH-M919 using xda app-developers app
Skipjacks said:
Titanium Backup will do it, I think you need the paid version though.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yup. I think you're right.
Something disabled notifications for instagram, etc.
Sent from my SGH-M919 using xda app-developers app
kevinrubio1 said:
Something disabled notifications for instagram, etc.
Sent from my SGH-M919 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Did you Greenify Instragram? If yes, that explains why you aren't getting notifications.
lordcheeto03 said:
Did you Greenify Instragram? If yes, that explains why you aren't getting notifications.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nope, it's something in system tuner, I unchecked all the "checking" things so it's one of the "gtalk" options. I'm narrowing it down
Sent from my SGH-M919 using xda app-developers app
This has saved a bunch of us from odd battery drain. Skipjacks has been there and done that. Amazing informative thread! Going on two weeks without having to worry about bringing my charger to work thanks to skip
SGH-M919_Omega, the end result
kevinrubio1 said:
Nope, it's something in system tuner, I unchecked all the "checking" things so it's one of the "gtalk" options. I'm narrowing it down
Sent from my SGH-M919 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't believe it. Instagram is its own thing. It shouldn't be reliant on the google services framework at all.
Sent from my SGH-M919 using xda app-developers app
Pinan said:
Just a note. If you convert Google Play Services to a User App (TB), you can then Greenify (free ver.) it. This works very well and does not affect other functions that may rely on that app.
I also Greenify Maps and Google Search. Two more heavy drainers. Convert to User App first.
Fwiw, my sleep drainage is 0.3 - 0.4%hr, with wifi on 24/7.
I get either 7-8 days standby, or so far, 5.5 days with 3.5 hours screen time, or likely 6-7hrs screen time single day. Screen shots are in my posts.
I would argue too that these settings/tweaks do indeed increase your battery time, since while sleeping, the battery is draining at a much lower rate, therefore keeping more juice for live time use.
Although you and I don't use all of the same "tweaking" programs, we do seem to be on the same mission. Better battery life! :good:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm not sure whether Greenifying Google Search would save as much battery as freezing it would, but I'm going to try it out and see how it works for me. I'll report back some results in case anyone is curious
funkl3 said:
I'm not sure whether Greenifying Google Search would save as much battery as freezing it would, . .
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It does. It also allows other functions to still work such as TTS. I had the issue a while back. Something to do with shared voice.
I also freeze Contacts and Calendar syncs as well. If I want them to sync I simply thaw them for a few seconds.
Skipjacks said:
I don't believe it. Instagram is its own thing. It shouldn't be reliant on the google services framework at all.
Sent from my SGH-M919 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Maybe one of the "gtalk" options has something to do with notifications because last night I rebooted my phone a lot checking/unchecking options, none of the "checking" did anything! So that's good, and I unchecked some gtalk but not all and it worked!
Sent from my SGH-M919 using xda app-developers app
Great guide! A little bitter I had to read all of the pages in the original topic :laugh:
Skipjacks said:
I like your way of dealing with Google play services.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Btw. I forgot to mention that after I reboot the first thing I do is turn off Google Play in Running Programs. Persistent bugger. And of course I turn off notifications and auto update in GP as well with each new ROM install.
My tweak list is extensive. Someday I'll right it all down as you have. Save me some thinking, LOL.
i am having crazy active (27%) and idle (5%) battery drain. using ex kernel manager i can see different wakelocks. i hsve been screwing around with them and haven't made any real progress. is the flash 2.05 still very battery efficient? id my problem isn't solved will ex kernel manager still work for this kernel to set wakelocks, governors, etc? do you recommend another kernel manager instead. i downloaded the wake locks detector app and every time i opened it it just said "failed to complete task at this time." it had SU rights. idk whst the problem was. im having a hard time finding whats all of a sudden doing this to my battery. i did flash some launcher mods. this started right after that. last night i reflashed the developers stock launcher and things looked great. now theyre back at being bad. would a factory reset in twrp allow me to save my data and maybe fix the issue? please help
What apps can I use without wake lock dector functioning. Could I have a virus stopping it from functioning?
Check your cpu consumption. Use exkernel manager or some other tool for the same.
Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk
Here's what I'm seeing. Google photos looks to be the culprit. I need that app. What should I do? Uninstall updates and reinstall them? I cleaned the cache for the app but they still stayed at the same levels shown here. Cpu is usually running at 300MHz. It's not shown in the screen shot, but most the of the other cpu consumption is at 1.9GHz. it's like 9% or something. What do I do with google photos?
Schroeder09 said:
Here's what I'm seeing. Google photos looks to be the culprit. I need that app. What should I do? Uninstall updates and reinstall them? I cleaned the cache for the app but they still stayed at the same levels shown here. Cpu is usually running at 300MHz. It's not shown in the screen shot, but most the of the other cpu consumption is at 1.9GHz. it's like 9% or something. What do I do with google photos?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Edit: i stopped a backup of some stuff on Google photos and the drain is still the same. It's not backup causing the issue. Something else with the app is doing this.
Have you tried clearing its data and cache so you get a fresh start, so to speak?
Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using XDA Labs
Did last night and it didn't seem to help.
So better battery stats seems to be telling me that google photos is the problem. I use the app so this sucks. Otherwise I would have just uninstalled it. Can I use adb shell commands to disable its wake lock? If I do that, I'm guessing it will not upload pics and videos to Google drive UNLESS my screen is ON, right?
TK has this (
) YouTube video showing what I am asking. Keep in mind I actually AM rooted. I don't see any options in batter battery stats to disable wakelocks. It just detects them.
I would again ask To check cpu consumption
Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk
Here is a pic of the cpu stats. Everything above it is very small or 0% cpu seems to be where it should
Schroeder09 said:
Here is a pic of the cpu stats. Everything above it is very small or 0% cpu seems to be where it should
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks, is it for small or bigcluster.
Sent from my ONEPLUS A3003 using Tapatalk
Guess what!? It appears that the photos app was just trying to upload stuff to my Google drive. Since my internet is so horrible it took literally days. Once the uploads completed my battery drain returned to normal!!
Now I'm seeing this. What is going on. Seems like after every update or the littlest thing, or even out of the blue, battery drain occurs. I just flashed EX kernel 1.01,did some various updates in the playstore, and flashed some launcher mods.
I was seeing like 8% active drain and .5-.7% idle drain on EX 1.0 and only sharkie launcher mods. Now SOT sucks and so does my battery.
I had the same problem till I turned off instant tethering. Helped my battery life significantly for some reason. Doesn't really make sense.
(Settings -> Google -> Instant Tethering)
shadowster said:
I had the same problem till I turned off instant tethering. Helped my battery life significantly for some reason. Doesn't really make sense.
(Settings -> Google -> Instant Tethering)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I didn't make any changes there before or after updating though. Here's what I have in my tethering settings.
I had this tethering acceleration on,but it was on when I was getting awesome battery life too.
And what about these kernel wake locks? Is there actually an app that blocks wake locks? Wake lock detector would never work for me for whatever reason. Better battery stats seems to identify wake locks but it doesnt give you any way to actually do anything about the wake locks.
By instant tethering, I didn't mean the tethering in the Network and Internet part. I attached a few images that might make it clearer. (Settings->Google->Instant Tethering). I think this helped cause I keep bluetooth on a lot.
If I recall correctly, powermanagerservice wakelock is the catch all for all the partial wakelocks, and power manager display is just however long the display has been on.
Wifi scanning and BT scanning were both back on(previously turned off) for me after the JAN update.
shadowster said:
By instant tethering, I didn't mean the tethering in the Network and Internet part. I attached a few images that might make it clearer. (Settings->Google->Instant Tethering). I think this helped cause I keep bluetooth on a lot.
If I recall correctly, powermanagerservice wakelock is the catch all for all the partial wakelocks, and power manager display is just however long the display has been on.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for the reply. I found what u we're talking about with those pictures. Instant tethering under google was not on. I want wifi scanning on but I don't want the BT scanning on, and it didn't turn back on after the January update for me.
Without wifi scanning will wifi work with only the toggle button in the notification drop down menu? I thought they both had to be on
My battery is **** since 8.1, glad I found these options thanks to you guys.
I lose 20% battery life for 1 hr of SOT, super bad. I'll let you know if it improves.
Schroeder09 said:
Thanks for the reply. I found what u we're talking about with those pictures. Instant tethering under google was not on. I want wifi scanning on but I don't want the BT scanning on, and it didn't turn back on after the January update for me.
Without wifi scanning will wifi work with only the toggle button in the notification drop down menu? I thought they both had to be on
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It always has for me and I have disabled this on every phone i've had that has this option. Its more location services.
Hi alll,
Been a while since I've been on the forums but I'm having a problem with my new note 10, SD proc, the Android system is using tons of battery and my standby drain is pretty bad.
Will just disabling background usage for the Android system fix my issue or does anyone recommend anything else? I've searched around but haven't seen anything that has helped me.
I've gone through every setting , and I'm no stranger to Android and wake locks.
Any help or input greatly appreciated
The picture shows 11+ of standby time, which is not utterly bad, ok google, and bixby eat battery all the time just by listenning, it depends also what other stuff you have enabled, all nice features take a toll, you should start analyzing what yo use/need and what you clearly don't, to turn it off or disable it, there are also the settings for optimizing batt use, background run, always sleeping, etc
winol said:
The picture shows 11+ of standby time, which is not utterly bad, ok google, and bixby eat battery all the time just by listenning, it depends also what other stuff you have enabled, all nice features take a toll, you should start analyzing what yo use/need and what you clearly don't, to turn it off or disable it, there are also the settings for optimizing batt use, background run, always sleeping, etc
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It will literally drain 20 to 30 percent through out my work day while in my pocket though..that's on top of my normal use for basic calls and texts until I get home. Today I've drained 30 percent and have made it through about 8 hours with very minimal use.
I tried switching from global to lte/ CDMA also and that didn't seem to help. I've disabled background use of the Android system and it hasn't slowed down any either.
The LG v35 I just came from, same processor I believe or just one gen behind, would not do this and required no fiddling. It just worked. System should never use that much while on stand by even if Google assistant is in use. I used it on the LG and again it didn't have issues like this.
I agree with OP, something is draining battery very badly. The phone is on for about 12hrs, with SOT of about 2hrs and yet you don't see any slowdown with battery drain at all, when phone was not used for about 10 hours. it's almost straight line, like it was running nonstop for 12 hours. I've seen my phone on standby using as little as 1% for every 3 hours, so it would almost show horizontal line, during that time, but then next day it could be 1% per hour and I have a problem identify which app is doing it. What we need is wake lock detector, but the one I tried won't work without root. I think disabling Bixby is a good start (if OP doesn't use it), but without proper tools (root), it comes down to trial and error.
BTW right now my phone is on for 14 hrs, SOT is 1hr40min and my battery is at 80%. My graph shows clearly phone was on stby for about 7 hrs, then steep dive when used and back to flat line on stby and I know it can do better than that.
pete4k said:
I agree with OP, something is draining battery very badly. The phone is on for about 12hrs, with SOT of about 2hrs and yet you don't see any slowdown with battery drain at all, when phone was not used for about 10 hours. it's almost straight line, like it was running nonstop for 12 hours. I've seen my phone on standby using as little as 1% for every 3 hours, so it would almost show horizontal line, during that time, but then next day it could be 1% per hour and I have a problem identify which app is doing it. What we need is wake lock detector, but the one I tried won't work without root. I think disabling Bixby is a good start (if OP doesn't use it), but without proper tools (root), it comes down to trial and error.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah I'm not using bixby, I am using Google assistant so I can yell at her to turn my lights on and off.
As far as I can see, bixby is disabled too
for a $1,099 USD phone, I would expect more without having to modify much, with CCSWE app, deactivating many bixby apps I gained some autonomy
P.D. no defiendas lo indefendible paisano.....
It looks like it could be the launcher, says it's disabled though? Good ole Android.
Pic attached
joshk89 said:
Yeah I'm not using bixby, I am using Google assistant so I can yell at her to turn my lights on and off.
As far as I can see, bixby is disabled too
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you don't use Bixby then you should disable all these Bixby services or it will keep running in the background regardless.
And disable bixby in the launcher too.
bovoro said:
for a $1,099 USD phone, I would expect more without having to modify much, with CCSWE app, deactivating many bixby apps I gained some autonomy
P.D. no defiendas lo indefendible paisano.....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The thing is, not everybody is having the same issues, it is highly dependent on how settings and apps are present, I mean, this "problems" are non inherent to the device
Cada quien habla segun le fué en la feria
lennie said:
If you don't use Bixby then you should disable all these Bixby services or it will keep running in the background regardless.
And disable bixby in the launcher too.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thank you, I'll check that out. For now I'm switching to Evie launcher and I'll see if that makes a difference, tomorrow will be the test!
joshk89 said:
It looks like it could be the launcher, says it's disabled though? Good ole Android.
Pic attached
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It shows disabled and yet you have Force Close option, so it's currently running and this could be a problem, partially it is disabled and partially it's running and that may cause endless loops and high battery usage.
I previously had google assistant on at all times listening for my voice. Love the feature but noticed it drained my battery significantly.
So I turned the voice wake off and now simply use the home key (hold to activate assistant). Besides having it on before it was annoying because I have google assistants at home (nest hub) and whenever I would say hey google I would get both phone and hub to wake.
Update,
I dug more and cdfs mode launcher seems to be attached to the Samsung launcher and the Android system
I have the launchers disabled, Android system can't be disabled obviously, but I disabled background usage
Using Evie I can already see a difference, but I can't be sure until a trial run tomorrow at work
I'll keep y'all posted, and I'll take any other recommendations lol
lennie said:
If you don't use Bixby then you should disable all these Bixby services or it will keep running in the background regardless.
And disable bixby in the launcher too.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I do not use Bixby however I have a Bixby button remapper in order to work for launching Google assistant. If I disable all of those packages using ccswe will I still be able to use the remapper? the app I'm using for remapping is called side actions
Can anyone confirm this?
lennie said:
If you don't use Bixby then you should disable all these Bixby services or it will keep running in the background regardless.
And disable bixby in the launcher too.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Is it possible to disable all services for Bixby - If I am on unrooted device ?
Thanks in Advance.
sharingspider said:
Is it possible to disable all services for Bixby - If I am on unrooted device ?
Thanks in Advance.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, i use CCSWE App Manager for disabling Bixby completely. No root is required. There are some other Apps. which can also be used.
Just search, there are threads on this.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ccswe.appmanager.samsung&hl=en
Zappapp said:
Yes, i use CCSWE App Manager for disabling Bixby completely. No root is required. There are some other Apps. which can also be used.
Just search, there are threads on this.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ccswe.appmanager.samsung&hl=en
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for the help !
Can you guide how to do it or point me to a thread which I can refer too ?
sharingspider said:
Thanks for the help !
Can you guide how to do it or point me to a thread which I can refer too ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Have a look -
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...msung-galaxy-note-10-note-10-debloat-t3964027
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-10/how-to/galaxy-note-10-note-10-plus-debloat-t3964225
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-10+/help/package-disabler-pro-samsung-t3959639
Zappapp said:
Have a look -
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...msung-galaxy-note-10-note-10-debloat-t3964027
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-10/how-to/galaxy-note-10-note-10-plus-debloat-t3964225
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-10+/help/package-disabler-pro-samsung-t3959639
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks Man !! :laugh::good::good:
joshk89 said:
Update,
I dug more and cdfs mode launcher seems to be attached to the Samsung launcher and the Android system
I have the launchers disabled, Android system can't be disabled obviously, but I disabled background usage
Using Evie I can already see a difference, but I can't be sure until a trial run tomorrow at work
I'll keep y'all posted, and I'll take any other recommendations lol
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Strange, I can't find that package anywhere on my phone and I have no idea about what's its purpose.
I am testing a faulty app that it's being faulty during deep sleep, therefore to fasten testing I would need an app which can force the phone to enter deep sleep mode immediately.
Any idea?
Macrodroid or Tasker maybe
Sent from my SM-N986U1 using Tapatalk
Hello
look for an app called napptime it may help you.
Jay
j1978 said:
Hello
look for an app called napptime it may help you.
Jay
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
As he said naptime is the better option for this?
Thanks guys!
Try disabling all power management apps ie all the toggles in Device Care are toggled off except fast charging.
Do not enable sleep for any; Developer options>stand by apps, all buckets should show as active if not power management is active.
Close apps when done with them especially ones like Brave.
The phone will automatically go into a deep sleep state at screen off unless a 3rd party apk is misbehaving.
On my 10+ running on Pie this is how it runs best and gets the best battery life.
Goggle Play Services, Gmail, Playstore, Google Backup Transport, Google Framework and Samsung cloud backup are prime offenders*.
Disable these and all Google, Samsung, carrier and apk feedback. I use Karma Firewall to find rogue apks and lock the phone down as well as a package blocker.
I also use Battery Tracker from the Galaxy Store.
Nominal battery usage is 7-10%@hour heavy usage like vids and surfing. Off screen usage with AOD on is 1%@hour.
*enable when and as needed
Try Naptime and what blackhawk says!
TheViciousGames said:
Try Naptime and what blackhawk says!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You'll need to play with it; what works with my configuration may not work for others.
These are my current observations. My stock AT&T 10+ variant is heavy modified and watched over. As I intend to continue to use the current Pie firmware, I continue to tweak it.
What I've observed though over the last year to my dismay is any power management interferes with functionality sometimes randomly and unpredictably. It actually ends up increasing battery usage within a few days although initially it may seem to improve it.
Apparently it causes system conflicts.
I have no power management active other than the screen is set to "optimize" in Device Care and even Device Care is package blocked then unless I wish to use it to clear the cache (which the factory load version does very well).
I toggle Google Play Services/Gmail on as needed and a few other battery hogs. Point is I know their status; no random shutdowns or apk failures... and the best battery life I've ever seen on this device.
You need to go explore, find the resource hogs one by one and find a way to tone them down.
All the shotgun get it done power management apks failed miserably for myself multiple times....
Android runs very well by its self once your rein in a couple problem apks.
Many times the factory loaded versions run better then their updated versions. Gmail, Gmaps, Device Care... may or may not be true on your load; trust nothing!
ReeX said:
I am testing a faulty app that it's being faulty during deep sleep, therefore to fasten testing I would need an app which can force the phone to enter deep sleep mode immediately.
Any idea?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Naptime
for me, forcedoze was the best, you can download apk
blackhawk said:
Try disabling all power management apps ie all the toggles in Device Care are toggled off except fast charging.
Do not enable sleep for any; Developer options>stand by apps, all buckets should show as active if not power management is active.
Close apps when done with them especially ones like Brave.
The phone will automatically go into a deep sleep state at screen off unless a 3rd party apk is misbehaving.
On my 10+ running on Pie this is how it runs best and gets the best battery life.
Goggle Play Services, Gmail, Playstore, Google Backup Transport, Google Framework and Samsung cloud backup are prime offenders*.
Disable these and all Google, Samsung, carrier and apk feedback. I use Karma Firewall to find rogue apks and lock the phone down as well as a package blocker.
I also use Battery Tracker from the Galaxy Store.
Nominal battery usage is 7-10%@hour heavy usage like vids and surfing. Off screen usage with AOD on is 1%@hour.
*enable when and as needed
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
When I go into standby mode in developers options each app has 3 options. Frequent, rate, working set. What should I put them on?
Also what exactly does standby mode do? Is it manually disabling that app while not in use or only when you close it? As far as closing the apps, will closing them via the recent apps screen suffice or do I need to force close them?
And my last question is what do you mean by disabling an app such as play services?
Sent from my SM-N986U1 using Tapatalk
TheViciousGames said:
Try Naptime and what blackhawk says!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yungzoe0624 said:
When I go into standby mode in developers options each app has 3 options. Frequent, rate, working set. What should I put them on?
Also what exactly does standby mode do? Is it manually disabling that app while not in use or only when you close it? As far as closing the apps, will closing them via the recent apps screen suffice or do I need to force close them?
And my last question is what do you mean by disabling an app such as play services?
Sent from my SM-N986U1 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It shows the app's bucket state when power management is enabled.
Your power management is enabled... and likely wasting battery even though it's suppose to do the opposite. If power management is disabled as I suggested, all buckets are locked to active.
Right now I have GPS enabled; I disable Device Health Services com as it was constantly accessing the internet.
Usually closing the app is all that's needed.
Use Karma Firewall and Battery Tracker to help ferret out bad apps.
Depending on your model, OS/firmware load, 3rd party apks and settings configuration your system may respond differently.
I have heavily modified them on this 10+ Pie variant; it's an ongoing process. I have around 88 apks packaged disabled as well.
Androids wuv to be played with...