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I've heard that you can't do an ota firmware update if you're rooted (is this true?) If so, am I still able to do maintenance releases? Sprint just sent out a new one. http://community.sprint.com/baw/message/240535#240535
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If your rooted you never do a ota or yours losing root
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Never ever do an OTA, if you're rooted.
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That's what I thought. I just wanted to make sure >.> thanks!
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So the general consensus is not to do a OTA update if rooted because you will lose root.
OK, what if I dont mind losing root.
I am rooted (ive used the unrEVOked 3.21: one-click root for Froyo method).
And I have never installed any custom ROMs.
(i.e. I am running on Stock. Not rooted Stock ROM! Just rooted Stock. Im not even sure if there is a difference but just wanted to say it so its clear.)
Wouldnt it be possible to be rooted , perform on OTA update (which will make me lose root), then root again (or wait however long until a new root method is discovered for the current software version)?
Please advise.
newtonetienne said:
Wouldnt it be possible to be rooted , perform on OTA update (which will make me lose root), then root again (or wait however long until a new root method is discovered for the current software version)?
Please advise.
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That is based on the assumption that there will be a guaranteed method to regain root user access on the device. It could take hours, days, weeks, months, or even never.
I would recommend flashing the stock 3.70 update for root users here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=874251
Now you still have the update, but you have retained root user access.
Some feedback, in case others find it helpful.
So while rooted, I decided to accept the 3.70 OTA update. The phone downloaded, rebooted, then tried to install it. It failed.
In case others don't know, I believe it failed because a custom recovery was recognized, Clockworkmod. (please correct me if I'm wrong).
Nevertheless, since I wanted the 3.7 OTA update (i.e. actually through update and not flashed) my only option was to set s-on then unroot. The procedures to set s-on and unroot from unrevoked website worked flawlessly.
Afterwards, I tried to apply the OTA, and this time it installed.
So I am now unrooted, and with 3.70 OTA. In a few days I'm going to try the new unrevoked v3.31. Hopefully it will root me.
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newtonetienne said:
Some feedback, in case others find it helpful.
So while rooted, I decided to accept the 3.70 OTA update. The phone downloaded, rebooted, then tried to install it. It failed.
In case others don't know, I believe it failed because a custom recovery was recognized, Clockworkmod. (please correct me if I'm wrong).
Nevertheless, since I wanted the 3.7 OTA update my only option was to set s-on then unroot. The procedures to set s-on and unroot from unrevoked website worked flawlessly.
Afterwards, I tried to apply the OTA, and this time it installed.
So I am now unrooted, and with 3.70 OTA. In a few days I'm going to try the new unrevoked v3.31. Hopefully it will root me.
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You are late to the party. If you waited like a couple hours you would have saved a lot of time.
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You are late to the party. If you waited like a couple hours you would have saved a lot of time.
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Sorry novanosis85, i think my last post was a bit unclear.
I wanted to unroot, so I could apply the OTA update.
I guess I was trying to provide some feedback for others who may have similar questions like i did. Namely...
1. can I apply OTA when rooted? what i discovered was, "no" because the update process will discovery a custom recovery.
2. whats is required to be able to apply the OTA? s-on, and unroot procedure, then apply OTA. Update will indeed be applied but you will be unrooted.
Again, I hope this helps others.
dont dooo it! ull lose root
Wheres the guy with the zombie thread pic when you need him? I thought another ota was out
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Okay so the official update is out for all my friends and I want it too, but I'm rooted. Any help?
I know that I can unroot and then install the update, but if I unroot, do I lose all my apps? What happens to all my root apps? Do those disappear? Because once I install the update I plan on rooting right back so would all my current root apps have to be reset?
Can someone just give me a quick run-through of the easiest way to get this official update, whether it use unrooting or any other method available.
Thanks
You'll lose root for sure but its no problem as you can just root it again afterwards. Your root apps won't disappear they just won't have that access till rooted again
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Ok, so here is my issue. For the sake of time, i want to make this question as simple as possible.
I've been putting it off, but now that kit kat is here, i need to get the ball rolling with twrp and my phone. Basically, i am on zv7, rooted stock. I have not been able to install twrp on my phone, and I need someone who would be merciful enough to help me out, to explain to me how to install it on stock zv7, and get kit kat, as i dont want to unroot. I have yet to find instructions online that would be able to help me with my particular situation... Any help would be appreciated.... Thank you for your time guys.
mcluvin1065 said:
Ok, so here is my issue. For the sake of time, i want to make this question as simple as possible.
I've been putting it off, but now that kit kat is here, i need to get the ball rolling with twrp and my phone. Basically, i am on zv7, rooted stock. I have not been able to install twrp on my phone, and I need someone who would be merciful enough to help me out, to explain to me how to install it on stock zv7, and get kit kat, as i dont want to unroot. I have yet to find instructions online that would be able to help me with my particular situation... Any help would be appreciated.... Thank you for your time guys.
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You can update with stock rooted. Why are you not on at least ZVA? You don't need a custom recovery to be rooted. You can be rooted and have stock recovery, but any time you take an OTA update you lose the root and have to rerun ioroot.
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Stl Dark Knight said:
You can update with stock rooted. Why are you not on at least ZVA? You don't need a custom recovery to be rooted. You can be rooted and have stock recovery, but any time you take an OTA update you lose the root and have to rerun ioroot.
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Thanks for your response!
My point exactly. I don't want to lose root, and i don't want to reroot. Even if i took the OTA on stock rooted, i'm pretty sure it would break several things I have now as i use alot of apps that require root privilegedes, e.g titanium backup. I realize you don't need to have twrp to be rooted (as i am rooted), but i do need it to safely flash an updated 4.4 zip that would preserve my root privileges, and upgrade me to kitkat...
P. S, i am not on ZVA because when i soft bricked earlier this year, i had to go back to full unrooted stock, and in my rush to reroot, forgot to upgrade to zva before rooting, which is why im on zv7...
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mcluvin1065 said:
Thanks for your response!
My point exactly. I don't want to lose root, and i don't want to reroot. Even if i took the OTA on stock rooted, i'm pretty sure it would break several things I have now as i use alot of apps that require root privilegedes, e.g titanium backup. I realize you don't need to have twrp to be rooted (as i am rooted), but i do need it to safely flash an updated 4.4 zip that would preserve my root privileges, and upgrade me to kitkat...
P. S, i am not on ZVA because when i soft bricked earlier this year, i had to go back to full unrooted stock, and in my rush to reroot, forgot to upgrade to zva before rooting, which is why im on zv7...
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2702007
If you follow this method you will not lose root. But, 4.4.2 can be rooted with ioroot25 anyway, and it's easy.
The only way to enter custom recovery will be through a terminal emulator command (see post #2). If you take the OTA, you will lose custom recovery altogether.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2702007
If you follow this method you will not lose root. But, 4.4.2 can be rooted with ioroot25 anyway, and it's easy.
The only way to enter custom recovery will be through a terminal emulator command (see post #2). If you take the OTA, you will lose custom recovery altogether.
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It sounds like it would be easier for me to just take the OTA and reroot then go through this process of getting a custom recovery... Can i take the OTA on stock rooted zv7 without any serious reprocussions?
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mcluvin1065 said:
It sounds like it would be easier for me to just take the OTA and reroot then go through this process of getting a custom recovery... Can i take the OTA on stock rooted zv7 without any serious reprocussions?
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If I'm not mistaken when you check for updates, you will have to update to zv8, then zva, then it will offer zvc. Check in your updater what it says is available. I don't expect you'll have any issues as long as you haven't modified files/removed system files.
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If I'm not mistaken when you check for updates, you will have to update to zv8, then zva, then it will offer zvc. Check in your updater what it says is available. I don't expect you'll have any issues as long as you haven't modified files/removed system files.
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The only thing i have done is frozen some system apps, and i have X posed installed, as well as g2 xposed....i use root apps, but i dont think ive done anything besides that.... Should i continue?
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mcluvin1065 said:
The only thing i have done is frozen some system apps, and i have X posed installed, as well as g2 xposed....i use root apps, but i dont think ive done anything besides that.... Should i continue?
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No. You will have to unfreeze those apps and completely remove xposed. You might want to flash Youdug's odexed stock rom if you continue to run into snags.
Also: If you are taking the OTA on your phone, you should probably unroot.
Ok, so here is what i did. I updated all the way to zva, but now im not seeing the kitkat update. How do i go about getting kitkat since the update broke root completely?
Just a note for those who want to preserve root while doing an OTA, supersu and superuser have a "survival mode" for people who want to preserve root. I had to factory reset so i couldn't do it, but just something to keep in mind.
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mcluvin1065 said:
Ok, so here is what i did. I updated all the way to zva, but now im not seeing the kitkat update. How do i go about getting kitkat since the update broke root completely?
Just a note for those who want to preserve root while doing an OTA, supersu and superuser have a "survival mode" for people who want to preserve root. I had to factory reset so i couldn't do it, but just something to keep in mind.
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If you're not seeing the update you have a few options. Some say clearing Google services framework data and hitting check for updates repeatedly works. You can install it using the method above, or you can flash autoprime's .tot file using LG flash tool.
You can always re-root with ioroot25 if you need to.
Just want to say thanks to everyone here who took the time to help me out. For those of you who want to know, i decided to root from zva. I used the freegee app to download and install recovery (super easy) and am about to flash cm11 for stock kitkat.
Hi everyone, I have a stock rooted Sprint LG G2 and no custom recovery with the only modifications being Xposed framework and modules. My question is if I can take the upcoming ZVD update by removing Xposed framework and modules and then unrooting using Supersu. Thanks
if nothing else is changed, you should be able to, however, i would say that update is at least a few weeks away at the minimum. (but maybe im wrong)
So can anyone confirm this now that ZVD is here. I am rooted and have stock recovery. The only change I did was adding Xposed framework and some modules. Can I just uninstall framework and all modules than unroot using SuperSU? Then can I take the update and root again. Thanks in advance.
I was able to reroot after the update
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jcwxguy said:
I was able to reroot after the update
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Did you unroot using SuperSU first?
UCLA1 said:
Did you unroot using SuperSU first?
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nope, but i had just toted back to vc and hadnt rooted it yet before sideloading the ota update. (wanted to see if ioroot still worked for the new ota update without having to be rooted first)
I'm still using stock unrooted, but I'm wondering if I root my G Pad only without flashing a custom recovery and ROM, will I still be able to update via OTA like usual or I have to unroot first!
Thank you very much in advance!
Fullmetal Jun said:
I'm still using stock unrooted, but I'm wondering if I root my G Pad only without flashing a custom recovery and ROM, will I still be able to update via OTA like usual or I have to unroot first!
Thank you very much in advance!
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In the past several people have reported problems when taking an OTA update with a rooted G-Pad. Rather than risk it, I have always done a completely clean update with a wipe of the device using the LG Tool Upgrade Recovery with my V500. Once that completes I re-root the device and continue on.
muiriddin said:
In the past several people have reported problems when taking an OTA update with a rooted G-Pad. Rather than risk it, I have always done a completely clean update with a wipe of the device using the LG Tool Upgrade Recovery with my V500. Once that completes I re-root the device and continue on.
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Even if you don't have a custom recovery installed? Because I saw that some people with root only updated their G Pads ota with no problems with only root removed afterwards! They may have lied however!
I think this ota update with root problem applies to most android phones, right?
Thanks for your help
Fullmetal Jun said:
I'm still using stock unrooted, but I'm wondering if I root my G Pad only without flashing a custom recovery and ROM, will I still be able to update via OTA like usual or I have to unroot first!
Thank you very much in advance!
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In my case, I have root on stock recovery, and always do the updates via OTA, without any problems, and without losing root after that!
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Hugo-PT said:
In my case, I have root on stock recovery, and always do the updates via OTA, without any problems, and without losing root after that!
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Excellent, it is good to hear that root without changing recovery could work when taking an OTA update. I was only quoting what I had read, not what I had personally experienced. If it were to fail I would assume you could always use the LG Tool and do an upgrade recovery to reimage the entire tablet.
I did the latest OTA update (while drunk) and it updated fine and I still had root when I woke in a panic the next day wondering if I had soft bricked it.
Tachikoma_kun said:
I did the latest OTA update (while drunk) and it updated fine and I still had root when I woke in a panic the next day wondering if I had soft bricked it.
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Rock on! Now that's Happy Flashing...
A few months ago my g pad was root and I successful updated it to kitkat via ota update. But recently it showed up another update on the tablet and when I tried update it, it failed giving an error. I think if u are running kitkat and are rooted then ota update won't work.
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muiriddin said:
Excellent, it is good to hear that root without changing recovery could work when taking an OTA update. I was only quoting what I had read, not what I had personally experienced. If it were to fail I would assume you could always use the LG Tool and do an upgrade recovery to reimage the entire tablet.
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Thanks for your feedback guys! The G Pad community is awesome! I'm happy I bought this excellent tablet with awesome specs! Nothing can beat its value for money and great design!
I rooted with towelroot and hope I receive future updates! Never thought towelroot would make rooting so easy as with my previous phones, had to do some steps while connected to pc.