Hey all,
I was wondering, since the new Android L came out, how come no one is rushing to have it on our S3? Is there a version that exists already? And if not, who would like to work on this (maybe with me)?
Thank you in advance.
There is not a single device with Android L and the source code has not been released. There are two preview builds that are not final for the Nexus 5 and 7. You should check your facts with a few seconds of googling before starting a thread like this.
sigmarelax said:
There is not a single device with Android L and the source code has not been released. There are two preview builds that are not final for the Nexus 5 and 7. You should check your facts with a few seconds of googling before starting a thread like this.
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Google has released the SDK of the final Android 5.0 (L). Why would someone not be able to take the image file from there and make a port?
Porting a ROM is not as easy as it sounds.
I had Android L on my Nexus 4 for a while and didn't like the interface. Even after many revisions, it still is not perfect on the Nexus 4.
audit13 said:
Porting a ROM is not as easy as it sounds.
I had Android L on my Nexus 4 for a while and didn't like the interface. Even after many revisions, it still is not perfect on the Nexus 4.
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That's true, I agree. I read some guides here on XDA on how to port a ROM. I'd very much do it for my S3, but there are some things i am not sure about, like the kernels and the modems. Ill need to read up on it if I decide to do it myself.
scrat55 said:
Google has released the SDK of the final Android 5.0 (L). Why would someone not be able to take the image file from there and make a port?
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The SDK is not an operating system. It is documentation on how to create apps that will run well and look nice on the operating system. The images for the nexus 5 and 7 could indeed be ported, but it would take a good chunk of time and be buggy (as interfacing with certain hardware probably would be broken). It would also make no sense to work on such a port project because Android L source code will likely be released in early November. Building Android L for the S3 from source code would be much more ideal, and will definitely be done once L's source code is released
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The SDK is not an operating system. It is documentation on how to create apps that will run well and look nice on the operating system. The images for the nexus 5 and 7 could indeed be ported, but it would take a good chunk of time and be buggy (as interfacing with certain hardware probably would be broken). It would also make no sense to work on such a port project because Android L source code will likely be released in early November. Building Android L for the S3 from source code would be much more ideal, and will definitely be done once L's source code is released
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Ah roger that, thank you for a well explained reply mate.
Cheers!
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What happened to the very buggy honeycomb port we had a month or so ago? Is there anyone working on it or did we give up after that release?
http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile/google-holds-back-honeycomb-source-code-indefinitely-20110325/
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It's only temporary until they fix their mistake, which I can give them props for. "Hey you guys can't have this yet, we messed it up and we wanna deliver the right product".
I can live with the wait.
Google has changed from open source license to apache. Now it's OK not to reveal the source of any mods. Google seems fickle.
False? Its always been that way. Open source kernel, the rest used the apache license.
kenfly said:
very buggy honeycomb
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This is exactly why Google is TEMPORARILY withholding the HC source code. We will probably see it right around the same time that the "Ice cream" (or whatever it will officially be called) source gets released.
Because at that point devs won't need to use HC for phones, which is what Google is trying to prevent.
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This is exactly why Google is TEMPORARILY withholding the HC source code. We will probably see it right around the same time that the "Ice cream" (or whatever it will officially be called) source gets released.
Because at that point devs won't need to use HC for phones, which is what Google is trying to prevent.
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I don't follow in depth but I thought Google at one point said that HC was going to be tablet based only?
blizzard1017 said:
I don't follow in depth but I thought Google at one point said that HC was going to be tablet based only?
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Google is gonna release a similar update for phones with the same look. Doesn't want people to have f*cked up ports out before they release the real deal. Makes sense to me.
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I don't follow in depth but I thought Google at one point said that HC was going to be tablet based only?
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Right, that's what I was trying to say but I guess I wasn't totally clear. Google is holding HC source theoretically until IC source is ready and released. This way devs won't WANT/need to make HC builds for phones because they will be able to make IC builds.
But I'm sure some devs with try to cross pollinate "just because."
Yes I know that they are keeping the source. But I was just wondering if anyone is still working on what we have (to work with)
In short: there's no reason. It was an SDK port and will never be 100% working. Most devs just ignore the SDK ports because you can't do much with them and they will be slow. I think Androidball/thehacker (I refuse to spell that like a moron) is still working on it but he has been banned from here so it's on his own site.
Hi All,
Below a message from google about releasing ICS Time to DEV !
Greatings
Antonius
https://groups.google.com/group/android-building/msg/c0e01b4619a1455a
Hi! We just released a bit of code we thought this group might be interested in.
Over at our Android Open-Source Project git servers, the source code
for Android version 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich) is now available.
Here's how to get it:Follow the instructions at
http://source.android.com/source/downloading.html
Check out the
'ics-release' branch:repo init -u
https://android.googlesource.com/platform/manifest -b android-4.0.1_r1
That's it! However since this is a large push, please be aware that it
will take some time to complete. If you sync before it's done, you'll
get an incomplete copy that you won't be able to use, so please wait
for us to give the all-clear before you sync.
This is actually the source code for version 4.0.1 of Android, which
is the specific version that will ship on the Galaxy Nexus, the first
Android 4.0 device. In the source tree, you will find a device build
target named "full_maguro" that you can use to build a system image
for Galaxy Nexus. Build configurations for other devices will come
later.
Unfortunately we still don't have our Gerrit code review servers back
online. That remains our top priority though, and we hope to have them
back soon.
This release includes the full history of the Android source code
tree, which naturally includes all the source code for the Honeycomb
releases. However, since Honeycomb was a little incomplete, we want
everyone to focus on Ice Cream Sandwich. So, we haven't created any
tags that correspond to the Honeycomb releases (even though the
changes are present in the history.)
JBQ, on behalf of the AOSP team.
--
Jean-Baptiste M. "JBQ" Queru
Software Engineer, Android Open-Source Project, Google.
Questions sent directly to me that have no reason for being private
will likely get ignored or forwarded to a public forum with no further
warning.
Yessssssss
now let the games begin!!
Good news! Hopefully the devs can do something magic!
What does this actually mean for us DHD users? is it simply a matter of putting 2 and 2 together, and bam we have a rom? or will it take a few weeks, and be extremely difficult because I notice everyone saying this is only for the Galaxy Nexus, so it is pretty much like porting I guess?
Repsys7 said:
What does this actually mean for us DHD users? is it simply a matter of putting 2 and 2 together, and bam we have a rom? or will it take a few weeks, and be extremely difficult because I notice everyone saying this is only for the Galaxy Nexus, so it is pretty much like porting I guess?
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It will be very easy
Thanks for letting the devs know
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@Antonius
Really? I hardly believe that.
Having the source code is very important, not everything. Release source code is for Galaxy Nexus, a different device. We need a working kernel and support for our hardware. Real devs are probably working on that now. The real work begins from here, and I hardly believe we will have something functional until CM9 starts having night builds... 1-2 months from now
Maybe we get the first nightly as a christmas gift.
alienmind said:
@Antonius
Really? I hardly believe that.
Having the source code is very important, not everything. Release source code is for Galaxy Nexus, a different device. We need a working kernel and support for our hardware. Real devs are probably working on that now. The real work begins from here, and I hardly believe we will have something functional until CM9 starts having night builds... 1-2 months from now
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I think you need to read the post again this is the Source code it is a build up for gingerbread as i saw the code this night it was released the drivers and support are gonna be build very easaly but still it can take up to 1 a 2 weeks before release (Altrough i think some devs will release today for other devs to work on it) Also we need to keep in mind that there will be bugs in the system (Its still a child )
Greatings
Antonius
Multiple threads already on this. One is enough for development section. Moving to General
hahaha :-D at last.............waiting 4 it
In the words of many a drunk person at music festivals across the country
"HERE WE, HERE WE F*CKING GO"
Antonius123 said:
I think you need to read the post again this is the Source code it is a build up for gingerbread as i saw the code this night it was released the drivers and support are gonna be build very easaly but still it can take up to 1 a 2 weeks before release (Altrough i think some devs will release today for other devs to work on it) Also we need to keep in mind that there will be bugs in the system (Its still a child )
Greatings
Antonius
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I think you need to read a bit harder
This is actually the source code for version 4.0.1 of Android, which
is the specific version that will ship on the Galaxy Nexus, the first
Android 4.0 device. In the source tree, you will find a device build
target named "full_maguro" that you can use to build a system image
for Galaxy Nexus
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This still needs porting, new kernel building, etc. I think a couple of months for alpha/nightly builds for DHD sounds about right.
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I hope as soon as possibile!
You where mistaken my friend: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1343361
check this thread!
hopscotchjunkie said:
I think you need to read a bit harder
This still needs porting, new kernel building, etc. I think a couple of months for alpha/nightly builds for DHD sounds about right.
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Being a photographer is not conducive to having ICS beta builds without camera... and i'm a flashaholic! What am I to flash?!
Hi.
I moved from S2.
Just got my GN today.
Unlike other phones, is it the case that Google phones have the Source Code released on the spot by Google?
I couldn't stand owning an Android phone, and having Samsung holding back the SC (and therefore disabling the ability of devs - such as CM - to make a stable roms based on AOSP. This was kinda of an oxymoron; on the one hand, an Android phone which is meant to be open. On the other, limited by not having the code).
http://code.google.com/android/nexus/images.html
here's the factory images. you can compile your own ROM from source if you want and it will work and there's a link on the side to do that (if you have the GSM version)
Zepius said:
http://code.google.com/android/nexus/images.html
here's the factory images. you can compile your own ROM from source if you want and it will work and there's a link on the side to do that (if you have the GSM version)
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This makes one raise the Q: why would ANYONE buy a NON-GOOGLE phone?????
(S2 rant!)
Yes, source code is alwsys released for nexus phones. Thats the beauty of it. You can change code and compile your rom with ease and no hassle. Just like it came from the factory lol.
RogerPodacter said:
Yes, source code is alwsys released for nexus phones. Thats the beauty of it. You can change code and compile your rom with ease and no hassle. Just like it came from the factory lol.
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AMAZING! What Android SHOULD BE LIKE !!!!
Since it's been open sourced, any chance of porting it to the Galaxy Nexus? FirefoxOS also has been ported, so I would think WebOS would be possible. Any info on that? Would love to experiment with WebOS if it can be ported.
Parts of webOS have been open sourced, however the full open webOS 1.0 is not slated to be released until September.
Until then, no dice. Also depends highly on variant and availability of open source drivers.
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jthatch said:
Parts of webOS have been open sourced, however the full open webOS 1.0 is not slated to be released until September.
Until then, no dice. Also depends highly on variant and availability of open source drivers.
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Ahh one of the people somewhere else in this forum said it had been fully open sourced. Not yet I guess. Also, aren't all the drivers for the gnex in the AOSP repo? So that shouldn't be a problem
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AshtonTS said:
Ahh one of the people somewhere else in this forum said it had been fully open sourced. Not yet I guess. Also, aren't all the drivers for the gnex in the AOSP repo? So that shouldn't be a problem
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All GSM models and VZW yes, Sprint not yet. Those available should work as open webOS will use the standard linux kernel. However it is my understanding, and I could be wrong, that some models, namely the CDMA ones still use proprietary binaries with permission to distribute for AOSP. Not that they couldn't potentially be used for a port, just that it is a bit more of a grey area.
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All GSM models and VZW yes, Sprint not yet. Those available should work as open webOS will use the standard linux kernel. However it is my understanding, and I could be wrong, that some models, namely the CDMA ones still use proprietary binaries with permission to distribute for AOSP. Not that they couldn't potentially be used for a port, just that it is a bit more of a grey area.
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It's my understamding that the sprint one will NEVER be in the AOSP repository. Google said so I think. So I guess it would be harder for that one. I guess now I know it'll easily be possible for a WebOS port at least for the Maguro and Toro (which I have).. I wonder if someone will take up the cause, or I'll have to do it myself...
i found this on huawei's website
http://consumer.huawei.com/en/opens...Type=openSourceSoftware&pageSize=10&curPage=1
would it aid in building AOSP for us? because i want to get started on oreo but i cant find a device tree.
Interesting. H1611 is in there (use search feature). Hoping beyond hope and wish I had more time to do something with it.
Yeah but I dont know how well it would work with Oreo. Same thing here, I don't exactly have enough time for it. Possibly sometime around Christmas I could look into it(also my computer can't compile very well, and I'm getting a new one)
im pretty sure thats the same kernel source code we have had for like i dunno 4 months or so
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im pretty sure thats the same kernel source code we have had for like i dunno 4 months or so
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so do you know if it would aid in building roms?
with building and marshmallow ya if we get a working device tree built. as for android n and above i think its gonna require a programmer thats been at this stuff for years. it might also need to be one too for device tree. ive been to busy with rl stuff havent had time to about much else
Madvane: Can you outline what you did to create a ROM based off stock? I want to shortcut it as much as possible and see if I can build a reference ROM from stock within a week. I am a Linux developer by trade (11+ years) but Android is foreign to me. I've written kernel modules before so I'm not afraid of modifying source code. The XT has great specs but it seems to slow down and lag due to bloat (Phone Manager perhaps?) How far did you get on the Lineage port? Thanks.