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4.4. KitKat for Wifi Note 10.1 2014 P600 Q&A

Hi guys I have some questions about the new Firmware and KitKat in general and you may have answers I'll try to update first post with your answers!
-Will I loose root when I flash through Odin? --> Yes
-Is the new firmware rootable, or is there a way to keep root when I upgrade from rooted 4.3?
-->For upgrade yes: If you are rooted on 4.3 you can restore root by flashing a custom recovery and flash superSU manually.
-->chainfire autoroot works but you need to update the superSU app through play store after flashing.
-Will KitKat restrict access to my SD card? -->Yes but fixable through an app or editing a file (needs root), there is already a thread about that.
-Can I still use flash with KitKat? How?
-->Yes, there is a hacked version see 2nd post for link.
-How is the touchscreen driver? Is the stuttering fixed? Do touch and hold actions still drop after ~23sec?
-->Pretty much fixed. To about the same state as the improved Kernel we had a while ago.
-Are there any apps that are not working (root apps too)?
-Gesture Controls? --> works
-Xposed framework app settings? -->works
-Is Hancom Office included or does it still work? --> not included but does still work.
Thats about what I can think of a the moment.

Hi,
If you are already rooted then all you have to do is re install TWRP and then flash SU zip then you have root.
For flash player, download hacked version here, it works I tested it on new software :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/go...e-how-to-play-flash-video-android-4-t2548001
Also, xposed works. Tested it on new software
Sent from my Note 2014 using Tapatalk

Chainfire's Auto Root does work, once you flash it thru odin and reboot, go to the Play store and update the app.
- Please update OP

Here's a question: I'm already rooted. Is flashing the stock KitKat image via Odin and rerooting the only way to upgrade?

starfall42 said:
Here's a question: I'm already rooted. Is flashing the stock KitKat image via Odin and rerooting the only way to upgrade?
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If you are already rooted, I assume you have TWRP too. Just download this KitKat rom, full wipe and install.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2720631

Itchiee said:
Chainfire's Auto Root does work, once you flash it thru odin and reboot, go to the Play store and update the app.
- Please update OP
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Not for me I flashed a stock 4.4 kit kat on my tablet coming from root 4.3. I then flashed chainfire autoroot thru odin on the 4.4 and the superuser there only problem is it displays this ' There is no SU binary installed, and SuperSU cannot install this is a problem! I formatted my 4.3 before flashing it maybe thats why?

itachi30s said:
Not for me I flashed a stock 4.4 kit kat on my tablet coming from root 4.3. I then flashed chainfire autoroot thru odin on the 4.4 and the superuser there only problem is it displays this ' There is no SU binary installed, and SuperSU cannot install this is a problem! I formatted my 4.3 before flashing it maybe thats why?
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Not sure... I installed KK on the tablet via Odin, then rebooted and setup, then rebooted into download mode and flashed auto root thru Odin.
Upon reboot I got an error selecting SuperSU, but once I updated it thru the Play Store its been fine.
Using ES Explorer I removed the items I don't need and removed all of the Knox stuff.
There are a few of us this worked for so I don't know what went wrong for you.
If you don't succeed then try again, and again, and again....Good luck.

Do I have to update to kitkat bootloader?

gcrutchr said:
Do I have to update to kitkat bootloader?
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Not needed. The bootloader is same for 4.3 and 4.4

Itchiee said:
Not sure... I installed KK on the tablet via Odin, then rebooted and setup, then rebooted into download mode and flashed auto root thru Odin.
Upon reboot I got an error selecting SuperSU, but once I updated it thru the Play Store its been fine.
Using ES Explorer I removed the items I don't need and removed all of the Knox stuff.
There are a few of us this worked for so I don't know what went wrong for you.
If you don't succeed then try again, and again, and again....Good luck.
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Thx for the response from what i can see you never fully wipe your data before installing 4.4 KK but i did so i believe i lost my root like that. So when i updated the supersu never carried over from 4.3

Srikar_NBK said:
Not needed. The bootloader is same for 4.3 and 4.4
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Thanks.

Itchiee said:
Not sure... I installed KK on the tablet via Odin, then rebooted and setup, then rebooted into download mode and flashed auto root thru Odin.
Upon reboot I got an error selecting SuperSU, but once I updated it thru the Play Store its been fine.
Using ES Explorer I removed the items I don't need and removed all of the Knox stuff.
There are a few of us this worked for so I don't know what went wrong for you.
If you don't succeed then try again, and again, and again....Good luck.
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man you're awesome thx a bunch I saw my mistake, I was using chain fire root except the one I had downloaded from a third party site wasn't exactly for my device. Went to chainfire official site got the autoroot bam im rooted at.
Rep + 1

How do you get hancom office?

-Will KitKat restrict access to my SD card? -->Yes but fixable through an app or editing a file (needs root), there is already a thread about that.
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Sorry, but I cant find thread related to the issue .
What do you mean by `fixable through an app`? I`m not rooted and full stock.

Kit Kat SD Card Issue
clouds5 said:
Hi guys I have some questions about the new Firmware and KitKat in general and you may have answers I'll try to update first post with your answers!
-Will KitKat restrict access to my SD card? -->Yes but fixable through an app or editing a file (needs root), there is already a thread about that.
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Is this the app you are referring to? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2684188

Still not out in Germany

I intend on rooting this tablet. Am I better off rooting 4.3 and then flashing KK update? Or is it possible to update to KK and then root?

supremekizzle said:
I intend on rooting this tablet. Am I better off rooting 4.3 and then flashing KK update? Or is it possible to update to KK and then root?
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Both ways work equally well I was already rooted with 4.3 but either way has been confirmed working so it doesn't matter.

clouds5 said:
Both ways work equally well I was already rooted with 4.3 but either way has been confirmed working so it doesn't matter.
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Thank you. So any guide I find on rooting 4.3 should be the same procedure as 4.4?

supremekizzle said:
Thank you. So any guide I find on rooting 4.3 should be the same procedure as 4.4?
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Yes. Refer to this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2490805

[GUIDE] how to root Sph-L710/L710T S3 4.4.2 (updated as of 8/19/2015)

I'm sorry i had the wrong links and because of this i had miss information. So i formally apologize by updating with the proper links.
this first method doesn't work with the Sph-L710T or the Sph-L710 on NJ2/NJ3
First method: You can root the stock 4.4.2 ND8/NDC:laugh:
1st. Make sure your on 4.4.2 ND8 or NDC
2nd. Download Towel Root
3rd. Place Towel Root in sdcard or internal storage
4th. With any file manager find and install Towel Root
5th. Open Towel Root and well root
6th. Go to play store and download https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.supersu&hl=en and also https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=stericson.busybox&hl=en let super user update the binary
7th. Flash any recovery you want {personally i went with PhilZ Touch (this was before PhilZ had a root Option)}
8th. Enjoy your rooted stock 4.4.2 ND8/NDC
Down below is one more way too root Stock ND8/NDC/NJ2/NJ3 or NF4/OA3 (L710T) and basically any other update
(link to the almighty ODIN)
Second Method: mostly recommended
1st. Odin flash TWRP
2nd. In Odin choose PDA, PA or AP then select the TWRP Tar you just downloaded
3rd. Make sure Auto reboot is unchecked (also at this time your s3 should be in download mode)
4th. Hit start and let Odin let it finish!!
5th. Hold power button to turn off your S3, after it turns off about 10 seconds later it will turn back on to the battery charging screen so before that quickly hold Volume+ and Home, to boot into recovery
6th. now your in TWRP
7th. so to root your stock rom with TWRP flash the following file SuperSU.zip by Chain fire (pro tip. Install any other custom recovery the same way I did for TWRP above if it is in .tar format)
and here is Philz recovery for the D2Lte 6.48.4 ( which you must flash in TWRP)
and here is TWRP that was made specifically for the D2Rephersher/triband/L710T TWRP (which you must flash in a recovery)
Third method Most recent.
Hidyman said:
This is in reference to Samsung Galaxy S3 for Boost Mobile SPH-L710.
Just want to let anyone out there that updated their Boost S3 to L710VPUC0J1 know that you can still root and/or ROM your phone.
Use the instructions to (use Odin to) update the recovery to TWRP first (in the second set of instructions). I had trouble trying to go right to PhilZ Recovery (which I believe is based off of ClockWorkMod). I Had to do the TWRP (twrp-2.8.7.0-d2spr.img.tar) first.
It was the only way to get it to actually accept the recovery, not sure why, maybe because the latest Samsung firmware fixed an exploit or two.
This is an older phone, but it is still a viable one.
I hope this helps someone out there.
It took me a while to figure this quandary out.
As always this WILL flag KNOX, but I'm sure this won't be an issue at this date and time (8/2016).
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work on ND8 rom? sprint phone?

Tekone said:
work on ND8 rom? sprint phone?
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i want to say yes but towel root does come with a warning that it might brick your device.....but i want to say yes since most things that can be done to the ND8 can be done to the NDC and also in reverse order.....so try it and report back it will be good to know if it works on both bootloaders

Sprint S3 Android 4.4.2 ND8-It works!
I just used this method to root my Sprint S3 running Android 4.4.2 and ND8, since my USB port is on the fritz, and it worked successfully. I have root, and was able to do a full apps backup with Titanium Backup, and gained root access in ES File Explorer. Next, download and install a custom backup. Thanks, great job, and could not have been made easier to do!

oops
Rooted the phone in one click. Unfortunately, I lost all data (no 3G or 4G connection). Did I goof? I'm looking in the stickies and can't seem to find an answer. I'd appreciate any help I can get.

henhun said:
Rooted the phone in one click. Unfortunately, I lost all data (no 3G or 4G connection). Did I goof? I'm looking in the stickies and can't seem to find an answer. I'd appreciate any help I can get.
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ND8 or NDC? have you tried updating your profile/PRL?

6th_Hokage said:
ND8 or NDC? have you tried updating your profile/PRL?
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Ya know. People keep talking about ND8 and ND___. I have no idea what that means. I know I should be embarrassed.
UPDATE: FIGURED IT OUT, BASEBAND VERSION. GOTCHA. IT IS NDC.
I was JUST coming back to update my post. I DID update the PRL and restarted my phone. That seems to have done the trick. Thank GOD I got my data connection back!! It worked. Even though I found the info somewhere else, thank you so much for the quick reply. PRL update fixes the problem. You're awesome.

I used it before i had a custom recovery. And on reboot i wouldnt have root. After i ran it root checker told me i was rooted then reboot killed. I installed philz and all was ok
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jbnorton0524 said:
I used it before i had a custom recovery. And on reboot i wouldnt have root. After i ran it root checker told me i was rooted then reboot killed. I installed philz and all was ok
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many users of basically the same phone report different things with every root method out there. If it worked for you that's great tell other users what you did for it to work and if it didn't work, then ask for help and you will get help; some people don't have success with any method while others do with all of the methods.....my phone falls under every method.....

Successful Towelroot on VM Galaxy S3 4.4.2.NDC
6th_Hokage said:
you can root the stock 4.4.2
first step make sure your on 4.4.2
second step download Towel Root
third step place Towel Root in sdcard or internal storage
fourth step with any file manager find and install Towel Root
fifth step root
sixth step go to play store and download Superuser (Chainfire) and also Busy Box (Stericson) let super user update the binary
seventh step flash any recovery you want personally i went with Philliz Touch
eighth step if you want flash a custom rom now if not enjoy your rooted stock 4.4.2
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Straight forward, fast and easy. I did notice the following:
1) Updating binary reported it did not successfully install. I've seen this before on other devices, but everything worked well. Ext SD and Camera all OK. Everything works fine so far - Titanium, Nandroid, Root Browser, etc.
2) At one point, I was directed to install Busy Box. Having done this on other devices, I said "Yes" and installed it.
3) I see that my device now shows Device Status as Custom ( was Normal before, if I remember correctly). Is this due to Busy Box?
4) Is Device Status the only way to know the KNOX Status? I see no yellow triangle as I did on my Galaxy Reverb.
5) I got a Google warning to uninstall Towelroot since it is usafe and a security exploit. I understand that.
I would like to verify the KNOX status and if tripped in the Towelroot process, to let potential users know of that possibility.
Thank You! And thanks to everyone who has continued to work on keeping root free!
Dave

dave260 said:
Straight forward, fast and easy. I did notice the following:
1) Updating binary reported it did not successfully install. I've seen this before on other devices, but everything worked well. Ext SD and Camera all OK. Everything works fine so far - Titanium, Nandroid, Root Browser, etc.
2) At one point, I was directed to install Busy Box. Having done this on other devices, I said "Yes" and installed it.
3) I see that my device now shows Device Status as Custom ( was Normal before, if I remember correctly). Is this due to Busy Box?
4) Is Device Status the only way to know the KNOX Status? I see no yellow triangle as I did on my Galaxy Reverb.
5) I got a Google warning to uninstall Towelroot since it is unsafe and a security exploit. I understand that.
I would like to verify the KNOX status and if tripped in the Towelroot process, to let potential users know of that possibility.
Thank You! And thanks to everyone who has continued to work on keeping root free!
Dave
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Knox only notifies Samsung that your device isn't stock anymore not necessarily rooted like with a custom recovery and then flashed mods and what not but if you Odin the stock rom it resets the counters so Samsung will never know....and that i have noticed TowelRoot doesn't trip that counter.....only the recoveries and when you update the binary (<---completely forgot to fix that) you must hit the option normal not TWRP/CWM

churninern said:
I just used this method to root my Sprint S3 running Android 4.4.2 and ND8, since my USB port is on the fritz, and it worked successfully. I have root, and was able to do a full apps backup with Titanium Backup, and gained root access in ES File Explorer. Next, download and install a custom backup. Thanks, great job, and could not have been made easier to do!
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That's great news because same boat here. It worked on 4.3 as well.
I had the phone hacked before and something must not be fully stock so the Ota fails.
I downloaded a package and mobile odin should flash it properly and then I can root it with this again and install a nice modified TouchWiz rom.

Darkangels6sic6 said:
That's great news because same boat here. It worked on 4.3 as well.
I had the phone hacked before and something must not be fully stock so the Ota fails.
I downloaded a package and mobile odin should flash it properly and then I can root it with this again and install a nice modified TouchWiz rom.
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just a quick add on Mobile Odin and stock ND8/NDC don't mix at all

Knox Counter and "Device Status"
6th_Hokage said:
Knox only notifies Samsung that your device isn't stock anymore not necessarily rooted like with a custom recovery and then flashed mods and what not but if you Odin the stock rom it resets the counters so Samsung will never know....and that i have noticed TowelRoot doesn't trip that counter.....only the recoveries and when you update the recovery you must hit the option normal not TWRP/CWM
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Thanks for your response. I may be over thinking these indicators. All I did was Towelroot, successfully. On the phone, the "About Device, Status" now says CUSTOM (was "Official"). The Knox counter according to app "Phone Info" shows Knox Counter at 0x0. As you said, since the counter is not tripped, should be no problem on warranty. So then Device Status CUSTOM is not a problem? I'm not really worried about warranty at this point, but I think I'll hold off further mods for another 6 moths.
Thanks again for your help!

6th_Hokage said:
just a quick add on Mobile Odin and stock ND8/NDC don't mix at all
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Thanks. I tried the md8 and mk3 "mk3 is what it's on". Both just restart and get stuck on splash screen :/.
I have to go to download mode and and restart it that way to boot system back up.
Do you have any other suggestion. I'm not sure what part of the system is altered. It seems like a stock recovery and it's stock firmware "now rooted". Maybe the kernel.
I can't use USB at all.
I'm guessing maybe I should install twrp. Then install a stock zip or try out a 4.3 rom that way. I would like to get to md8 one way or another. Most md8 Roms want you to odin or flash an md8 base.

Darkangels6sic6 said:
Thanks. I tried the ND8 and MK3 "MK3 is what it's on". Both just restart and get stuck on splash screen :/.
I have to go to download mode and and restart it that way to boot system back up.
Do you have any other suggestion. I'm not sure what part of the system is altered. It seems like a stock recovery and it's stock firmware "now rooted". Maybe the kernel.
I can't use USB at all
I'm guessing maybe I should install TWRP. Then install a stock zip or try out a 4.3 rom that way. I would like to get to md8 one way or another. Most ND8 Roms want you to Odin or flash an md8 base.
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cause they need the ND8 base to work as intended...my suggestion would be to get the usb port on your phone fixed but i don't know how expensive that will be

6th_Hokage said:
just a quick add on Mobile Odin and stock ND8/NDC don't mix at all
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6th_Hokage said:
cause they need the ND8 base to work as intended...my suggestion would be to get the usb port on your phone fixed but i don't know how expensive that will be
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I was afraid you would say that.

Holy crap. May I say, I am quite impressed. I never planned on rooting my S3 (I like it that much!) but this just looked so damn easy to do and it was!
For the curious! I have a Virgin Mobile S3, and I'm on Kitkat 4.4.2, baseband NDC. Verified root with Root Checker Basic. No problems with mobile data.
Many thank yous, 6th_Hokage!

strangelady said:
Holy crap. May I say, I am quite impressed. I never planned on rooting my S3 (I like it that much!) but this just looked so damn easy to do and it was!
For the curious! I have a Virgin Mobile S3, and I'm on Kitkat 4.4.2, baseband NDC. Verified root with Root Checker Basic. No problems with mobile data.
Many thank yous, 6th_Hokage!
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your welcome strangelady and if you want check out the links in my signature area for other cool stuff

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How to remove Root from Galaxy Tab S?

I bought a second hand Samsung Galaxy Tab S a few months ago and it has been working fine.
However, when I looked at version of Android then seems a bit old (5.0.2) and when I did a check for updates it said that it couldn't update because "The operating system on your device has been modified in an unauthorised way". When I checked then it seems that the device has been rooted.
A quick search suggested I should run SuperSU to remove the root. So, I had to download and install this, but, when I run it says "The SU binary needs to be updated. Continue?" - if I do then I get another message "If you have a custom recovery like TWRP or CWM that can be used to (try to) install the SU binary" and gives me a choice of Normal or TWRP/CWM. I am struggling to know how to proceed.
So, should it be possible to remove the root and still preserve all my data, apps, settings, etc?
If so, is SuperSu the way to go or are there other tools I should look at, such as Kingo Android Root?
Or, am I faced with rebuilding with a stock ROM?
Thanks

There is no update. 5.0.2 is the latest.

ashyx said:
There is no update. 5.0.2 is the latest.
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OK, thanks for info.
However, I would still like to remove Root and would appreciate advice on this, please!

MysteryMan1 said:
OK, thanks for info.
However, I would still like to remove Root and would appreciate advice on this, please!
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If your root manager is supersu then it has the option to unroot in it's settings.
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3DSammy said:
If your root manager is supersu then it has the option to unroot in it's settings.
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I've tried to fire up SuperSU, but, run into problems, as described in my initial post, and this is what I need to resolve.
Any ideas?

MysteryMan1 said:
... A quick search suggested I should run SuperSU to remove the root. So, I had to download and install this, but, when I run it says "The SU binary needs to be updated. Continue?" - if I do then I get another message "If you have a custom recovery like TWRP or CWM that can be used to (try to) install the SU binary" and gives me a choice of Normal or TWRP/CWM. I am struggling to know how to proceed.
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I'm having a bit of trouble understanding the end goal. As stated Android v5.0.2 is the latest non-custom firmware available. As a previous owner has unlocked the bootloader and seems to have flashed a SuperSu version that modification is blocking any OTA update to v5.0.2. It is also clear your trying to avoid loosing user data.
Would it be acceptable to be rooted and use a different method to apply the latest Samsung stock firmware for your region? If the answer is yes install a TWRP recovery for your device model but you'll loose your warranty by tripping KNOX (you may already be in that state). Follow the instructions in the TabS TWRP thread.
Then finish the SuperSU install (where your stuck today). Then install Flashfire. With Flashfire and the downloaded latest Samsung firmware package you can flash the boot and system images to update your install then use ODIN to update the Bootloader image from that download firmware. You could also flash the recovery image but that would overwrite TWRP and in your case I don't see the point. Flashfire needs the whole Samsung firmware file to be available on the device itself unlike when using ODIN to flash the Bootloader image.
As I'm rooted but retained my warranty I use FlashFire and ODIN to update to the latest stock firmware and never loose user data. Unfortunately to root and not trip KNOX I did wipe my user data that first time so it does not seem to be an option for you.
Hope that gives you some ideas. In your current state it maybe as simple as completing the SuperSU install (assuming a custom recovery (TWRP/CM) is already installed) then using Flashfire and ODIN as described.
Good luck

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I'm having a bit of trouble understanding the end goal. As stated Android v5.0.2 is the latest non-custom firmware available. As a previous owner has unlocked the bootloader and seems to have flashed a SuperSu version that modification is blocking any OTA update to v5.0.2. It is also clear your trying to avoid loosing user data.
Would it be acceptable to be rooted and use a different method to apply the latest Samsung stock firmware for your region? If the answer is yes install a TWRP recovery for your device model but you'll loose your warranty by tripping KNOX (you may already be in that state). Follow the instructions in the TabS TWRP thread.
Then finish the SuperSU install (where your stuck today). Then install Flashfire. With Flashfire and the downloaded latest Samsung firmware package you can flash the boot and system images to update your install then use ODIN to update the Bootloader image from that download firmware. You could also flash the recovery image but that would overwrite TWRP and in your case I don't see the point. Flashfire needs the whole Samsung firmware file to be available on the device itself unlike when using ODIN to flash the Bootloader image.
As I'm rooted but retained my warranty I use FlashFire and ODIN to update to the latest stock firmware and never loose user data. Unfortunately to root and not trip KNOX I did wipe my user data that first time so it does not seem to be an option for you.
Hope that gives you some ideas. In your current state it maybe as simple as completing the SuperSU install (assuming a custom recovery (TWRP/CM) is already installed) then using Flashfire and ODIN as described.
Good luck
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Thank you for your very helpful and comprehensive reply. I can't profess to understanding all of it, but, I am sure I will get there eventually!
I shall follow your suggestion of trying to get get SuperSU installed first.
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If you want to go back to stock just flash the latest firmware with odin.

Flash stock over rooted to get OTA

I wonder is it possible to flash stock unrooted OOS over rooted OOS in order to install small OTAs. After updates plan to root again. Does anyone know whether this is possible or not? And, any side effects could occur?
I search over internet and couldn't find any useful info about this.
Thanks in advance.

Technically you'll be updating your device by flashing the newest stock anyway. No need for OTAs. You can then re-root.

GTRanushka said:
I wonder is it possible to flash stock unrooted OOS over rooted OOS in order to install small OTAs. After updates plan to root again. Does anyone know whether this is possible or not? And, any side effects could occur?
I search over internet and couldn't find any useful info about this.
Thanks in advance.
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Yes, sounds doable

ABotelho23 said:
Technically you'll be updating your device by flashing the newest stock anyway. No need for OTAs. You can then re-root.
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Not what i meant. Let's say I'm on rooted OB18. But i want to update it to OB19. all i have is OB18 stock firmware. So, can i flash OB18 over rooted OB18 and then update it to OB19 (ota). Then re-root.
The reason I'm asking this is i have a very limited data internet connection. So i can save GBs if this is doable.

XDRdaniel said:
Yes, sounds doable
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Yeah. Well.. I'm gonna try this out myself. Thanks! :highfive:

GTRanushka said:
Not what i meant. Let's say I'm on rooted OB18. But i want to update it to OB19. all i have is OB18 stock firmware. So, can i flash OB18 over rooted OB18 and then update it to OB19 (ota). Then re-root.
The reason I'm asking this is i have a very limited data internet connection. So i can save GBs if this is doable.
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Plan to keep a copy of OB18 around? If so, then yea absolutely it should work. Root will either modify your system or your kernel depending on the method, which both get overwritten if you flash stock.
Issue you'll probably end up having in the future though is that if you always use OB18, when it comes time to install OB20, you'll be downgrading without a wipe, which I don't think is a great idea.

GTRanushka said:
I wonder is it possible to flash stock unrooted OOS over rooted OOS in order to install small OTAs. After updates plan to root again. Does anyone know whether this is possible or not? And, any side effects could occur?
I search over internet and couldn't find any useful info about this.
Thanks in advance.
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No you can't.
Because OTA will fail for "partition mismatching": the systemless root alters only but anyhow the /boot partition.
You must update with FOTA (Full OTAs), doesn't matter you're using stock or TWRP recovery.
The OxygenOS built-in updater should detects your system as modified and download only FOTAs.

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No you can't.
Because OTA will fail for "partition mismatching": the systemless root alters only but anyhow the /boot partition.
You must update with FOTA (Full OTAs), doesn't matter you're using stock or TWRP recovery.
The OxygenOS built-in updater should detects your system as modified and download only FOTAs.
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Let's say he has open beta 18, rooted and twrp installed, if he flashes ob18 again over it, this will get rid both of the root and twrp, resulting in an untouched system, therefore, ota after this will be possible. He can then flash back twrp and root the device

XDRdaniel said:
Let's say he has open beta 18, rooted and twrp installed, if he flashes ob18 again over it, this will get rid both of the root and twrp, resulting in an untouched system, therefore, ota after this will be possible. He can then flash back twrp and root the device
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But practically speaking, it's crazy to unroot system only for OTA.
It would be more reliable to download FOTAs on rooted system.
Then, if @GTRanushka is running Magisk (MagiskSU) as root method, it could be working even after firmware update.
Because of its systemless nature.

Simone98RC said:
But practically speaking, it's crazy to unroot system only for OTA.
It would be more reliable to download FOTAs on rooted system.
Then, if @GTRanushka is running Magisk (MagiskSU) as root method, it could be working even after firmware update.
Because of its systemless nature.
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This would be weird because I always had to flash magisk after a ota update..

GTRanushka said:
I wonder is it possible to flash stock unrooted OOS over rooted OOS in order to install small OTAs. After updates plan to root again. Does anyone know whether this is possible or not? And, any side effects could occur?
I search over internet and couldn't find any useful info about this.
Thanks in advance.
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In order to flash OTAS has to have stock rom but also recovery stock and bootloader blocked but not installed the OTAS otherwise it tells you that you have something modified and you have to download the complete rom. (That does not suit you)

ajnexus5 said:
In order to flash OTAS has to have stock rom but also recovery stock and bootloader blocked but not installed the OTAS otherwise it tells you that you have something modified and you have to download the complete rom. (That does not suit you)
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You don't need a locked bootloader for OTA just have to flash stock full ROM zip and stock recovery then you're good to go

Simone98RC said:
But practically speaking, it's crazy to unroot system only for OTA.
It would be more reliable to download FOTAs on rooted system.
Then, if @GTRanushka is running Magisk (MagiskSU) as root method, it could be working even after firmware update.
Because of its systemless nature.
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Why i try to unroot and do OTAs is the much less download size compared to FOTAs.

Renosh said:
You don't need a locked bootloader for OTA just have to flash stock full ROM zip and stock recovery then you're good to go
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I tried it with the bootloader open and I did not think that something is not right that it has to download complete the rom.:

What is the best way to stay up to date while keeping TWRP

Just got my S9 all set up just they way I like it. But part of the way I like it means knox has been tripped which means no more OTA updates for me. Is there a preferred method to keep my device up to date without having to go through flashing TWRP and all those other steps some of us like to do?

Only by flashing a new custom ROM from TWRP, if you are stock and want to keep stock you'll have to flash the updated stock with ODIN then flash TWRP again afterwards

phrosyn said:
Just got my S9 all set up just they way I like it. But part of the way I like it means knox has been tripped which means no more OTA updates for me. Is there a preferred method to keep my device up to date without having to go through flashing TWRP and all those other steps some of us like to do?
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I'm currently all stock still.. what are the things you have done to get it set up the way you like it?

b_rad_1983 said:
I'm currently all stock still.. what are the things you have done to get it set up the way you like it?
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First I installed TWRP to give me a really nice backup and restore solution
Then, I used TWRP to flash a custom rom and also Magisk
Then, I use Magisk to install YouTube Vanced (no-ads)
Magisk also provides a root-like access for me to install ad-away and remove any bloatware that I don't like
Finally, I sometimes experiment with different things through the time I have the phone

Which rom did you choose?

b_rad_1983 said:
Which rom did you choose?
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Soldiers ROM. It was just a simple no nonsense easy to debloat ROM