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Netflix app for android?

Is there a netflix app?
Sent from my CM 7 Monster Evol.

Its floating around, you can log in, but you can't stream yet.

Jason Black said:
Is there a netflix app?
Sent from my CM 7 Monster Evol.
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If I could recall the link I'd post it but long story short is this: Netflix will not allow any phone without a special processor on it which prevents copyright infringement to run the Netflix App. There are like 2 phones maybe which already have this, they say(speaking only of Android ones here). Snapdragon procs can indeed have this, however the OEM would have to had requested this when they ordered them from Qualquam. And apparently they did not, so if you are on an EVO you will never get legit Netflix(or on almost any other current phone). Newer phones will start to have labels like(Netflix Enabled!) soon and this is the only way android is actually gonna get Netflix. Hopefully the hacker community can get those of us with custom ROMS access but from the article I read(which was very detailed) it isn't looking very likely at all(something about Netflix being encrypted in some way and you having to have one of these special CPUs just to watch it I believe).

That sucks thats for sure. I would love netflix then I wouldn't have to carry my ipod touch around anymore.

seandelise said:
That sucks thats for sure. I would love netflix then I wouldn't have to carry my ipod touch around anymore.
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There is a way to watch Netflix on an android Phone with Playon. Playon is PC software that runs on your home computer, and then your phone connects to your home computer. You must have your PC on anytime you want to watch Netflix. I have never tried it but I did look into it.
http://www.playon.tv/supported-devices

robertroland said:
If I could recall the link I'd post it but long story short is this: Netflix will not allow any phone without a special processor on it which prevents copyright infringement to run the Netflix App.
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Isn't that the same reason Netflix doesn't run on Linux distros? So, naturally, I'd assume it'd come on to Android, only when it can first come on to Linux.

lonestarranger said:
Isn't that the same reason Netflix doesn't run on Linux distros? So, naturally, I'd assume it'd come on to Android, only when it can first come on to Linux.
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Yes and no. It actually did work on Linux way back when. But the problem is that Netflix uses Silverlight and that contains DRM libraries that Netflix enjoys. Netflix streaming worked on Moonlight a long time ago but the libraries have been updated. Now as far as phones go, there's only one phone that will officially have Netflix on Android. And that phone has a processor that plays well with the DRM.

Check out the Android Movies app, its better than netflix cause you don't need a subscription, just purchase the app and thats it!
here is a link: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.androidmovies&feature=search_result

Netflix just came or with an app some time ago and works great on the Evo.
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Wow, necrothread...

Installing clean OS ?

instead of trying to bypass all the bull**** of this custom OS why can't we just install a clean OS now that we have the source code of Kindle we can apply the needed drivers and also apply the BT driver that exist.

labbala said:
instead of trying to bypass all the bull**** of this custom OS why can't we just install a clean OS now that we have the source code of Kindle we can apply the needed drivers and also apply the BT driver that exist.
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I think the issue is someone has to create the custom OS.
From what I've seen, that takes more than a couple days.

Also we need a way to get the custom rom on it. No clockwork makes it a little tricky right now.

What's the difference between the OS from source (clean OS) and the pre installed OS ?

0xdroid said:
What's the difference between the OS from source (clean OS) and the pre installed OS ?
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In my line of thinking (and the pros can certainly correct me if my analogy is bad)...it's like asking what's the difference if I buy a New Dell PC and simply manually uninstall all the bloatware versus reformatting it with a fresh install...the latter is just better.

Well, in the case of PC vendors, there's Windows from Microsoft and a separate install of bloatware by the vendors. Kindle Fire, (as I understand it) has a forked, custom version of Android - they are not installing Android OS and putting some apps on top of it.

0xdroid said:
What's the difference between the OS from source (clean OS) and the pre installed OS ?
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I think the suggestion is to build a "stock" Android ROM, using parts of the source of the Amazon ROM. Basically take the drivers from the Amazon source, merge with stock Android and install. Obviously it's a little more difficult than simply copying some files from one ROM's source into another and compiling. Plus there's the problem of getting a custom recovery on there to flash from and to make backups etc.

Well, Amazon is going to sell a crapload of these things - at $199 why wouldn't they? - and I'm sure enough of them will fall into the skillful hands of some of our greatest developers. Given any time at all, I'm sure we'll have CWR and CyanogenMod 9 for the Fire. My wife is getting me a Fire for Christmas, and being a HUGE fan of CyanogenMod, I can't wait for some much needed love from the development community!

Im getting one just for that reason
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My wife is also getting me a fire for Christmas. It will be here Tuesday! I can't wait to get some custom ROMs on it!

I have one on order should be here in a week can't wait to wrinc the crap out of it.I see good things commin the force seems strong with this one it's not like the others.

labbala said:
instead of trying to bypass all the bull**** of this custom OS why can't we just install a clean OS now that we have the source code of Kindle we can apply the needed drivers and also apply the BT driver that exist.
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You'd lose the whole Kindle experience... I mean, you could put the Kindle App back on it, but that's just weird. I managed to get every app I could think of that would be useful on a tablet with no camera or GPS onto it, 100% integrated with the Kindle's native interface and ecosystem.
If you just want a tablet, you'd be a lot better off with a Galaxy Tab or Xoom or something, not this small, underpowered tablet. For basic stuff, and as an E-reader, it excels.

GSMinCT said:
You'd lose the whole Kindle experience... I mean, you could put the Kindle App back on it, but that's just weird. I managed to get every app I could think of that would be useful on a tablet with no camera or GPS onto it, 100% integrated with the Kindle's native interface and ecosystem.
If you just want a tablet, you'd be a lot better off with a Galaxy Tab or Xoom or something, not this small, underpowered tablet. For basic stuff, and as an E-reader, it excels.
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wrong. this tablet is not underpowered or too small. its awesome, and in time will be the best 7 inch available..
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smirkis said:
wrong. this tablet is not underpowered or too small. its awesome, and in time will be the best 7 inch available..
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Best available? Really? Serviceable yes. Specs-wise hardly. Let's keep the giddiness in perspective. It's a journeyman middle to low end tab.
Perhaps this thread needs to be in General?

what other 7s are worth mentioning other than the nook? sleek hardware is all we need, the rest comes in due time!
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smirkis said:
what other 7s are worth mentioning other than the nook? sleek hardware is all we need, the rest comes in due time!
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Make you a deal. I don't wish to hijack this thread (and it has nothing to do with Android Development) so let's move to General. I've tried as many 7" tabs as I could and am happy to share what I learned.
Mod....can you move us to General?

I would think that, on top of the typical problems associated with making a new ROM from an incomplete android install like the Kindle Fire comes with, you also have additional hurdles to get past, such as implementing the same on-screen hardware controls (back, home, etc) into the new ROM, as well as making a touchscreen recovery in which things can be flashed.

Felnarion said:
I would think that, on top of the typical problems associated with making a new ROM from an incomplete android install like the Kindle Fire comes with, you also have additional hurdles to get past, such as implementing the same on-screen hardware controls (back, home, etc) into the new ROM, as well as making a touchscreen recovery in which things can be flashed.
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A touchscreen recovery is already in process (a port by TeamWin of their existing touchscreen recovery called TWRP). There is a thread on it in this same section. Once recovery is sorted out then the real ROM work can begin in earnest
The new ICS version of Android is already designed to have on-screen buttons. I think this new Android 4.0 version requires a newer Linux kernel version than the Android 2.3 that the Fire is currently using, so there might be some heavy work required to get the current drivers all working in a different kernel , but once that is sorted out then new ROMs can be built from the ICS source code
Even starting with a 2.3 ROM, patching things on top of the existing Kindle Fire software shouldn't be necessary since Google provided the full source code for 2.3 as well

Additionally, CM7 'Tablet Tweaks' originally for the Nook Color would be perfectly viable here as well. I anticipate that once a solid recovery / 'unbricking' path is finalized, there will be a much greater development pace.

chuffykow said:
Additionally, CM7 'Tablet Tweaks' originally for the Nook Color would be perfectly viable here as well. I anticipate that once a solid recovery / 'unbricking' path is finalized, there will be a much greater development pace.
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thanks I forgot to include that part. If a CM7 ROM is what comes first then it should still work great

39” Kogan Agora Smart LED TV Using Android 4.0 (ICS)

Hi all just found this At Kogan.com.au
>> Kogan.com/au/buy/39-agora-smart-led-tv-full-hd-usb-input-pvr-digital-tuner-presale-special <<
Android ics, PVR, 1080p and a good list of playback formats as well.
CPU=Cortex A9 1.0GHz
GPU=Mali400
RAM=512MB
RAM Type=DDR2
Internal Storage= 4Gb
Wonder what could be done as far as. customisation, Root, Roms (unlikely) but would be cool.
What do you guys think how could you see customisation on a tv like this? or what rom would you have if you could choose?
and could modding on these type of devices catch on?
Thank you for your time
Roo79x

I managed to root mine, it wasn't difficult.
The Android board seems to be one designed for a settop box (as you would expect), but has modifications to make it suitable for running from within a TV rather than as a separate unit.
The hardware appears to be made by CVT Electronics in China. I don't see any settop boxes available through them that have similar hardware, so I would expect that they have been built for this purpose, but CVT are leaving themselves (left themselves) open to using is as a standalone box motherboard, but have been modified for this use in a Kogan TV by some third party.
The busybox installed in their ROM is a custom version in /system/xbin If you root it, don't replace the busybox. It's likely no standard builds will have the feature set required by this ROM.
The specs look like a regular f16ref board, but I would prefer to be certain before attempting to install a f16ref ROM.
Also, it seems that there should be a remote control config file in /system/etc that should be copied beforehand so it can be reinstalled on a replacement ROM - I have not checked on this.
More soon.
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Hi all just found this At Kogan.com.au
>> Kogan.com/au/buy/39-agora-smart-led-tv-full-hd-usb-input-pvr-digital-tuner-presale-special <<
Android ics, PVR, 1080p and a good list of playback formats as well.
CPU=Cortex A9 1.0GHz
GPU=Mali400
RAM=512MB
RAM Type=DDR2
Internal Storage= 4Gb
Wonder what could be done as far as. customisation, Root, Roms (unlikely) but would be cool.
What do you guys think how could you see customisation on a tv like this? or what rom would you have if you could choose?
and could modding on these type of devices catch on?
Thank you for your time
Roo79x
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I will be buying the new 55 inch TV from Kogan running 4.2. I hope I will be able to find some way of rooting. Apart from it being a TV which is cool, it will allow me to everything I do on my android phone on my 55 inch TV. How awesome is that! Plus Kogan have an AWESOME wireless keyboard thingy majiggy for $40 which I am so getting...

Root method need
I need help with rooting similar kind of kogan tv( 42 inch smart android 3d led tv) link below
kogan(dot)com/au/buy/42-agora-smart-3d-led-tv-full-hd/
roo79x said:
Hi all just found this At Kogan.com.au
>> Kogan.com/au/buy/39-agora-smart-led-tv-full-hd-usb-input-pvr-digital-tuner-presale-special <<
Android ics, PVR, 1080p and a good list of playback formats as well.
CPU=Cortex A9 1.0GHz
GPU=Mali400
RAM=512MB
RAM Type=DDR2
Internal Storage= 4Gb
Wonder what could be done as far as. customisation, Root, Roms (unlikely) but would be cool.
What do you guys think how could you see customisation on a tv like this? or what rom would you have if you could choose?
and could modding on these type of devices catch on?
Thank you for your time
Roo79x
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Rooting info for Kogan SmartTV
Octothorn said:
I managed to root mine, it wasn't difficult.
The Android board seems to be one designed for a settop box (as you would expect), but has modifications to make it suitable for running from within a TV rather than as a separate unit.
The hardware appears to be made by CVT Electronics in China. I don't see any settop boxes available through them that have similar hardware, so I would expect that they have been built for this purpose, but CVT are leaving themselves (left themselves) open to using is as a standalone box motherboard, but have been modified for this use in a Kogan TV by some third party.
The busybox installed in their ROM is a custom version in /system/xbin If you root it, don't replace the busybox. It's likely no standard builds will have the feature set required by this ROM.
The specs look like a regular f16ref board, but I would prefer to be certain before attempting to install a f16ref ROM.
Also, it seems that there should be a remote control config file in /system/etc that should be copied beforehand so it can be reinstalled on a replacement ROM - I have not checked on this.
More soon.
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Octohorn, I would love to hear more information on how you rooted you Agora and also any more information about the hardware (CVT?), please share your findings with us!

Please share
aznphatb0i said:
Octohorn, I would love to hear more information on how you rooted you Agora and also any more information about the hardware (CVT?), please share your findings with us!
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Yes octohorn. Please help us. I want to change the startup logo on my smart tv. It's version 4.2.1

any update to rooting Kogan 'Smart -tv's"
hirani89 said:
Yes octohorn. Please help us. I want to change the startup logo on my smart tv. It's version 4.2.1
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DITTO - anyone have further process/luck/info on rooting and modding the Kogan Smart TV's?
(FYI - the current 2014 July 42" seems to be the same as a Teac Smart 42")
i managed to run a launcher changer - but it wasnt TV based and couldnt do much....
I'm not that switched on for Android hacking i'm afraid....

I have accidentally bricked my 32" kogan tv when trying to root it. Any suggestions as to what can be tried?

[Q] Why is my phone cooler than my tablet?

Why is my phone cooler than my Kindle Fire tablet? I don't mean hardware. My phone has obviously better hardware than the Kindle. What I mean is why do apps behave differently, in fact better, on my phone than on my KF?
As an example, the Kindle Reader app on my phone shows a book browser within the app when I search for books. On the KF when I want to browse books, the app opens up Amazon's web site in a browser (not the nicest of interfaces for a small screen).
Another example is the Dolphin browser. On my phone, pressing the back button (on this web site for example) actually goes to the previous page whereas on the KF I have to press the back button at least twice and often more in order to get to the previous page; sometimes I have to time it just right, too.
There are a lot of little things like those examples that make my phone cooler in spite of its significantly smaller screen.
In case it matters, I have CM10.1 Android 4.2.2 on the KF and the phone has stock Google Android 4.2.2 that came with the phone. All the apps are presumably the same, having been download from the Play Store.
Can anyone explain this difference? Thanks.

pfederighi said:
Why is my phone cooler than my Kindle Fire tablet? I don't mean hardware. My phone has obviously better hardware than the Kindle. What I mean is why do apps behave differently, in fact better, on my phone than on my KF?
As an example, the Kindle Reader app on my phone shows a book browser within the app when I search for books. On the KF when I want to browse books, the app opens up Amazon's web site in a browser (not the nicest of interfaces for a small screen).
Another example is the Dolphin browser. On my phone, pressing the back button (on this web site for example) actually goes to the previous page whereas on the KF I have to press the back button at least twice and often more in order to get to the previous page; sometimes I have to time it just right, too.
There are a lot of little things like those examples that make my phone cooler in spite of its significantly smaller screen.
In case it matters, I have CM10.1 Android 4.2.2 on the KF and the phone has stock Google Android 4.2.2 that came with the phone. All the apps are presumably the same, having been download from the Play Store.
Can anyone explain this difference? Thanks.
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The phone's hardware was designed with 4.2.2 in mind and the Kindle was designed for a forked rendition of GB.

Guitarman2010 said:
The phone's hardware was designed with 4.2.2 in mind and the Kindle was designed for a forked rendition of GB.
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Then perhaps I do not understand what Android is. I was under the impression it was an OS with a defined API such that it would look (theming aside) and behave the same on different hardware (with obvious exceptions like not having bluetooth functionality on KF). Your statement would indicate that it is very heavily hardware dependent and that somehow app developers take into account the plethora of different hardware platforms and choose to behave in different manners on different devices. If this is the case, then it's an illogically designed system.

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Then perhaps I do not understand what Android is. I was under the impression it was an OS with a defined API such that it would look (theming aside) and behave the same on different hardware (with obvious exceptions like not having bluetooth functionality on KF). Your statement would indicate that it is very heavily hardware dependent and that somehow app developers take into account the plethora of different hardware platforms and choose to behave in different manners on different devices. If this is the case, then it's an illogically designed system.
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Running 4.2.2 on a system that was meant for GB results in some things not working right....

pfederighi said:
Why is my phone cooler than my Kindle Fire tablet?
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Another example is the Dolphin browser. On my phone, pressing the back button (on this web site for example) actually goes to the previous page whereas on the KF I have to press the back button at least twice and often more in order to get to the previous page; sometimes I have to time it just right, too.
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Can anyone explain this difference? Thanks.
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The browser thing I think can be explained. If you are zoomed in on a page, if you press the back button, it will zoom out to the whole page. The second tap of the back button takes you back to the previous page.
Does this help / make sense?
sent from The Muffinator (it's a kindle fire running cm10.1)
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jma9454 said:
The browser thing I think can be explained. If you are zoomed in on a page, if you press the back button, it will zoom out to the whole page. The second tap of the back button takes you back to the previous page.
Does this help / make sense?
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That would make sense if it was the same behavior on my phone. Thanks, though.

pfederighi said:
Then perhaps I do not understand what Android is. I was under the impression it was an OS with a defined API such that it would look (theming aside) and behave the same on different hardware (with obvious exceptions like not having bluetooth functionality on KF). Your statement would indicate that it is very heavily hardware dependent and that somehow app developers take into account the plethora of different hardware platforms and choose to behave in different manners on different devices. If this is the case, then it's an illogically designed system.
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pfederighi said:
That would make sense if it was the same behavior on my phone. Thanks, though.
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I think you're missing the point. The Kindle Fire was never made to run apps from the Google app store, and Google Play apps are rarely made for a modified Kindle Fire, running JB, and a custom kernel made from the ground up. Android is versatile, but it's not perfect. There are many apps that work well on some devices but not others. Looking at the reviews of any app in the Play store should be enough to convince you of that.

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Running 4.2.2 on a system that was meant for GB results in some things not working right....
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Why? Does the Android code really have such code as:
if (running_on_older_hardware)
{
make_all_apps_less_cool(); // because we only like newer hardware, even if it's possible for the older hardware to function
}
What little I know of OS design is that if you want your OS to be used aon a wide variety of hardware (which seems to be the design goal of Google in their relentless pursuit of world domination), the API should be as hardware independent as possible and that all hardware access should be done through the API. The very fact that (most) apps are written in Java and compiled to bytecode dictate that they have to use the API. Is the functionality difference because there is some sort of proprietary ROM that Android and certain apps know about that doesn't exist on the KF? And this ROM makes apps behave cooler?
Is it a memory issue? Does 4.2.2 expect to have a different memory/segmentation model? Or a different cache model? Or simply ungodly amounts more memory?
The only runtime software difference I could tell between my phone and my KF is that the per app memory limit on the KF is set to 256 MB whereas on the phone it is 512 MB.
Are there dynamic libraries/frameworks/apks on my phone that are not included in stock/CM10.1 4.2.2 that most apps are aware of and use? Can I copy them to the KF?
Thanks.

pfederighi said:
Why? Does the Android code really have such code as:
if (running_on_older_hardware)
{
make_all_apps_less_cool(); // because we only like newer hardware, even if it's possible for the older hardware to function
}
What little I know of OS design is that if you want your OS to be used aon a wide variety of hardware (which seems to be the design goal of Google in their relentless pursuit of world domination), the API should be as hardware independent as possible and that all hardware access should be done through the API. The very fact that (most) apps are written in Java and compiled to bytecode dictate that they have to use the API. Is the functionality difference because there is some sort of proprietary ROM that Android and certain apps know about that doesn't exist on the KF? And this ROM makes apps behave cooler?
Is it a memory issue? Does 4.2.2 expect to have a different memory/segmentation model? Or a different cache model? Or simply ungodly amounts more memory?
The only runtime software difference I could tell between my phone and my KF is that the per app memory limit on the KF is set to 256 MB whereas on the phone it is 512 MB.
Are there dynamic libraries/frameworks/apks on my phone that are not included in stock/CM10.1 4.2.2 that most apps are aware of and use? Can I copy them to the KF?
Thanks.
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Proper communication between the API and the hardware is still dependent on the kernel. Considering your phone's kernel was likely produced by a team of paid programmers and the KF's 3.0.x kernel was made by maybe a small handful of people with most of the work done by one man, for FREE, I'm sure there is plenty of possibility for something not working as efficiently as it could.

soupmagnet said:
Proper communication between the API and the hardware is still dependent on the kernel. Considering your phone's kernel was likely produced by a team of paid programmers and the KF's 3.0.x kernel was made by maybe a small handful of people with most of the work done by one man, for FREE, I'm sure there is plenty of possibility for something not working as efficiently as it could.
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And I truly do appreciate the hard work of the many hackers who put together kernels, boot loaders, recovery programs, apps, etc. I hope someday to join their ranks.
I was under the impression that there was a stock kernel as well as a stock OS and that the only real difference from one system to another was the boot procedure and the selection of drivers (with stubs or emulation for missing hardware/features). I take it that then this not the case.

Andromium OS

Has anyone tried to install Andromium OS yet?
It is now available on the playstore now
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.andromium.os
can't test it myself right now, but interested in your experiences.

App requires 4.4.2 As Said in discription. So it might not work.
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schybiorz said:
App requires 4.4.2 As Said in discription. So it might not work.
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buberlo said:
Has anyone tried to install Andromium OS yet?
It is now available on the playstore now
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.andromium.os
can't test it myself right now, but interested in your experiences.
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And I don't think our processor meets the minimum specs. Too bad. I'd love to try it.
Edit--I tried it. Side loaded it but it wouldn't show up under apps. So I pushed it to sdcard but it said parsing error (of some sort)
Only reason I tried is because for fun i installed it on my KFHD7 running CM 11 and it installed and ran relatively well. So I don't think it's the hardware that's the problem for aftv. This is a great idea btw. I only just heard about it in this thread.

KLit75 said:
And I don't think our processor meets the minimum specs. Too bad. I'd love to try it.
Edit--I tried it. Side loaded it but it wouldn't show up under apps. So I pushed it to sdcard but it said parsing error (of some sort)
Only reason I tried is because for fun i installed it on my KFHD7 running CM 11 and it installed and ran relatively well. So I don't think it's the hardware that's the problem for aftv. This is a great idea btw. I only just heard about it in this thread.
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I played with it briefly this morning on my Galaxy Note 3. It doesn't seem like something worth using on the FTV, but for a tablet being used with a keyboard and mouse, it's very promising as a laptop alternative.

xm41907 said:
I played with it briefly this morning on my Galaxy Note 3. It doesn't seem like something worth using on the FTV, but for a tablet being used with a keyboard and mouse, it's very promising as a laptop alternative.
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I was thinking it would be a good option since the mouse cursor was broken with the last aftv update. I assume with andromium you'd have a web browser that's easier to use plus I like the way it can be easily launched/shutdown in the status bar (at least on phones and tablets), so those that use launchers might like it more. Guess it don't matter. There's little reason for amazon to upgrade aftv but hopefully we'll have a custom ROM in the future.

Their ad used to say you only needed Android 4.2 to use it so maybe you should edit the first post to ask people if they have the old apks from earlier this year, cause older versions may work. Just a couple months ago it was working wth android 4.2. So if anyone has version 0.1.3 or older they should post the APK here. Versions 0.1.4 and 0.1.5 do not work, but older versions probably do since they only required Android 4.2. I did a google search so I know there was versions numbered 0.1.1, 0.1.2 and 0.1.3, but could not find the apk files.

KLit75 said:
I was thinking it would be a good option since the mouse cursor was broken with the last aftv update. I assume with andromium you'd have a web browser that's easier to use plus I like the way it can be easily launched/shutdown in the status bar (at least on phones and tablets), so those that use launchers might like it more. Guess it don't matter. There's little reason for amazon to upgrade aftv but hopefully we'll have a custom ROM in the future.
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If the mouse cursor is broken, wouldn't that make this even less usable? There is no native mouse cursor for Andronium so if the system cursor isn't visible, then it would be very difficult to control It does have a browser, and certain apps will work natively with it, but not many yet, and those that are supported do not fit inside a window. Only the Andronium specific apps will be windowed. Of the several hundred apps on my phone, only seven were natively supported. The others are hit or miss. . Since the FTV doesn't have a status bar, then that functionality would be lost on the FTV, as far as turning on and off Andronium. This app has lots of promise, but don't think it's a good fit.

xm41907 said:
If the mouse cursor is broken, wouldn't that make this even less usable? There is no native mouse cursor for Andronium so if the system cursor isn't visible, then it would be very difficult to control It does have a browser, and certain apps will work natively with it, but not many yet, and those that are supported do not fit inside a window. Only the Andronium specific apps will be windowed. Of the several hundred apps on my phone, only seven were natively supported. The others are hit or miss. . Since the FTV doesn't have a status bar, then that functionality would be lost on the FTV, as far as turning on and off Andronium. This app has lots of promise, but don't think it's a good fit.
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You obviously looked into it more than me. What I saw was a clean desktop interface that I naturally assumed would run most applicable android apps. And thinking more...yea. Since the most cursor is now invisible in most apps, it most likely wouldn't show up in andromium either. Lots of potential there, but if its purpose is to be a PC alternative it has a ways to go.

KLit75 said:
You obviously looked into it more than me. What I saw was a clean desktop interface that I naturally assumed would run most applicable android apps. And thinking more...yea. Since the most cursor is now invisible in most apps, it most likely wouldn't show up in andromium either. Lots of potential there, but if its purpose is to be a PC alternative it has a ways to go.
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I was interested in it awhile back for my tablet for work trips. Much easier to bring along a bt keyboard and mouse to go with my tablet than both.