Question for those of you who had the original Galaxy note n7000 or i717, but also know what the 10.1 s-pen "feels" like...
I recently purchased an "S-pen Holder" off of eBay for use with my Note 10.1 (n8000), though the s-pen that comes with it is intended for the Original Galaxy Note (n7000).
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galaxy-S-Pen-Stylus-Holder/dp/B0076Z3GMG
I thought that while the note devices had undergone improvements, the actual s-pens were functionally the same, so I figured I would be nice to have a more pen-like s-pen. The s-pen that fits in the holder does function, but it is definitely NOT the same. While the pen holder is very very nice, the actual S-pen that fits inside of it is absolute crap compared to the one that comes with the note 10.1. The tip is very hard, and does not have the "gumminess" that allows the pen to lay down that nice real pressure sensitive line.
So my question is, does anyone know if they ever make a less crummy pen for the n7000? Is there one available with has more of that modern Galaxy note feel to it? Or, is there a decent aftermarket pen with the same form factor?
I want to keep this fantastic holder, but I will not be able to use this s-pen. The problem is that the case only fits the pen in the shape made for the n7000 and i1717. I already asked the same question on the forums for those devices, which are ghost towns.
Any input would be great.
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Hi all,
I stumbled across this the other day;
http://m.samsung.com/us/mobile/galaxy-tab-accessories/ET-S110EBEGXAR
The pic seems to be of the smaller n7000 version of the pen holder and seems unclear that it comes with both the holder and active stylus.
I would really like a larger pen. Does anyone have any additional info?
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arjag said:
Hi all,
I stumbled across this the other day;
http://m.samsung.com/us/mobile/galaxy-tab-accessories/ET-S110EBEGXAR
The pic seems to be of the smaller n7000 version of the pen holder and seems unclear that it comes with both the holder and active stylus.
I would really like a larger pen. Does anyone have any additional info?
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Holy god, $60 for a pen holder?
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arjag said:
Hi all,
I stumbled across this the other day;
http://m.samsung.com/us/mobile/galaxy-tab-accessories/ET-S110EBEGXAR
The pic seems to be of the smaller n7000 version of the pen holder and seems unclear that it comes with both the holder and active stylus.
I would really like a larger pen. Does anyone have any additional info?
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I have this one and would not recommend it. It is the original one they made when they first released the phone version of the Note. Although the pen makes a big difference to using the phones small S-pen, there is a button on the side of the holder that gets pressed unless you hold it a particular way and causes your writing flow to stop.
The way it works is that you place the small S-pen inside this holder which aligns itself with the button and then you just twist the holder into place. It does come with a spare S-pen, the one made for the original Note.
If you want a full sized pen, you should go for any Wacom pen enabled pens that also have the eraser on the end, the eraser works well with S-note and other apps that support the eraser function. It may also be a good idea to order different tips and depending on your preference, use the one that suits your usage patterns.
Do you have a link for one you recommend?
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Do you have a link for one you recommend?
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You can have a read through arjag's other thread to get recommendations, I have the one for the Lenovo x61t which works well however I have not yet tried other tips yet which I will do, the original ones,I tend to find are not as smooth as the one fitted on the new S-pen of the Note 10.1.
Link below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1837743
Thanks for the comments everyone.
I was really hoping that Samsung had actually released a pen holder kit that fitted and came with a n8000 replacement stylus.
As mentioned I my other thread, I am too disappointed in the performance of the Lenovo pen to use it.
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arjag said:
Hi all,
I stumbled across this the other day;
http://m.samsung.com/us/mobile/galaxy-tab-accessories/ET-S110EBEGXAR
The pic seems to be of the smaller n7000 version of the pen holder and seems unclear that it comes with both the holder and active stylus.
I would really like a larger pen. Does anyone have any additional info?
swyped from my Galaxy Note 10.1 with Tapatalk
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If you (or anyone) is also using that Note 10.1 as a phone, this Samsung S-pen with bluetooth headset may be of interest to you :good:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/08/15/samsung-bt-hm5100-s-pen-hands-on/
[email protected] said:
If you (or anyone) is also using that Note 10.1 as a phone, this Samsung S-pen with bluetooth headset may be of interest to you :good:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/08/15/samsung-bt-hm5100-s-pen-hands-on/
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Um, how would you write when you are on a call?
How about just using a BT headset as a BT headset and the pen as a pen?
This seems like a gimmick to me with few practical uses.
Hi,
I agree that the bt pen seems to be a gimmick too. After using a dual mic (dsp) headset there is no going back. I am very happy with my Plantronics Voyager Pro.
It really does seem there is no such thing as a "Galaxy Note 10.1" S Pen holder kit and Samsung are just trying to get rid of un sold ones.
I think this is a bit rude of Samsung!
Does anyone know where to get the propper replacement S Pen for the N80xx?
Edit: Scratch that, through samsung's site of course http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/galaxy-tab-accessories/ETC-S1G2BEGXAR
I'm still waiting to get my Note 8.0, but I was wondering which pen would be a good purchase for the most natural drawing experience?
Is there any pen that is equal to or better than the S Pen? My only real concern is that it looks a bit thin and uncomfortable to hold.
I know this can be somewhat remedied but placing the S Pen inside the housing of a click eraser... But that seems kinda clunky to me. - What do you do if you need to use the side button?
Idealy I would want a pen that is comfortable to hold, has two side buttons just like the Cintiq / Intuos Pens, has an eraser, and can be calibrated to be *at least* as accurate and sensitive as the S Pen.
I've heard that the Bamboo Feel Pen (that was designed for the Note 10.1) doesn't work so well on the Note 8.0... Is this true? Anyone here given it a try?
Anyways, so what are my options?
Thanks in advance.
Edit: Perhaps this thread would be placed in Accessories - Mods?
I have the 8pi pen, its thicker and has an eraser end. I found it is off by 5 pixels, but I only use it in Lecture Notes and that app is able to correct for it. But I wanted a better, heavier more real pen feeling pen, so I ordered the Bamboo Feel. Based on the Wacom email it could take 3 weeks for me to receive it though! Whenever I get it, I will post a short comparison.
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Thanks for the response!
An offset is something I definitely don't want in a pen. I'll probably wait on your review on the Bamboo Feel... Or if anyone else can confirm if it has an offset or not. I really like the look of it. I have a 'feel'ing it will be a really nice pen.
Sorry for the intromission in this theead... but have the same problem.
Want any suggest on a pen for my device. A capacitive pen, but not the classic with large point.
I haven't note. To me too expensive. Have a gt-i9300, a galaxy tab 7 and a zte v11a.
Someone can suggest ? Thanks a lot!
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Our company used to use a bunch of old HP Elitebook convertible tablets (2510/2730), I discovered the styluses work with the Note devices and I've been using these for my Note 2 and Note 8.
The styluses are similar to these: http://www.amazon.com/HP-digital-pe...8&qid=1367096073&sr=8-2&keywords=2710p+stylus
This is the cheapest I've found (can go for up to $60), but I like the thicker pen for more control.
The nice thing is the back end of the pen works like an eraser in some apps.
The spen that comes with it is the best ive used thus far. I have the one with the eraser and the plastic nibs and horrible offset have me using the included spen.
nymviper1126 said:
The spen that comes with it is the best ive used thus far. I have the one with the eraser and the plastic nibs and horrible offset have me using the included spen.
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This is disapointing to hear. I bought the larger spen before I bought the tablet as I wanted something that would feel better in my hands for drawing. I'm guessing there is no way to correct for this offset unless the specific app you are using has that functionality.
From what I understand, any sylus that is compatible with wacom tablets, should be compatible with the note series. What I dont know if there will be an offset on these as well though. I really hope not or that they can be re calibrated. I intend on using the attached spen and a seperate stylus on my tablet and id like them both to be correctly calibrated.
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rEVOLVE said:
Our company used to use a bunch of old HP Elitebook convertible tablets (2510/2730), I discovered the styluses work with the Note devices and I've been using these for my Note 2 and Note 8.
The styluses are similar to these: http://www.amazon.com/HP-digital-pe...8&qid=1367096073&sr=8-2&keywords=2710p+stylus
This is the cheapest I've found (can go for up to $60), but I like the thicker pen for more control.
The nice thing is the back end of the pen works like an eraser in some apps.
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Thanks for this info. As I said in the reply above, any stylus compatible with wacom digitizers should be compatible with the note. What worries me is that there may be an offset with other styluses on these tablets (as seems to be the case with the 8pi pen). If thats the case, then the benefit of the technology is greatly diminished for drawing purposes.
The styluses seen for note and note 2 seems too much like the stylus of my old bamboo graphic tab... am i wrong?
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I am using the Samsung Bluetooth S-Pen.
http://www.amazon.com/Original-HM5100-Bluetooth-Adapter-Samsung/dp/B00B59OKTW
It is not a difference in terms of functionality. But feels much better due to its bigger size and weight. And it includes tips that are somehow coated with rubber which makes writing on screen a little more comfortable.
I got my Wacom Bamboo Stylus.
I haven't used it enough to be a good judge of offset, except that it definitely has more of an offset than the 8pi, and Lecture Notes can correct for it in landscape but I haven't been able to correct it in portrait mode yet (still trying to figure out the settings). If you need to use it in apps that do not allow you to adjust the offset, you can either use it vertically to the tablet (90 degree angle) with no offset, or shorten the nib. It appears the offset in any of these pens is related to both how much of an angle you write with, and how long the nib is sticking out of the pen.
I like the added thickness of the Bamboo Feel. It makes it feel like a real pen. It also feels heavier than the 8pi, but all the weight seems to be in the cap, making it feel top heavy when writing, so I'm undecided whether the weight is a plus or not.
It does not have an eraser end like the 8pi. This doesn't bother me since I disliked using it in the 8pi. It felt a lot more awkward and inaccurate to use than using the other button to switch between pen and eraser.
Both pens have a clip. The 8pi has a plastic clip vs the Bamboo Feel has a metal clip. I like the Bamboo Feel's metal clip much much better. The clip on the 8pi looks so fragile I'm afraid to use it. However the clip on the Bamboo Feel is study yet flexible enough that I can clip it to the side of the fake leather Moko cover that I'm using (till the Samsung and Poetic covers arrive). It is possible to keep it in the pen loop on my cover, but it only barely fits, so it's much more convenient to clip it to the side of the cover. I think this will allow me to use it with the thinner covers without a pen loop, so this pen will become the one I will be using daily.
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ranzassel said:
I am using the Samsung Bluetooth S-Pen.
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can u fit this in original pocket for s-pen? Or you have to carry this separately?
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can u fit this in original pocket for s-pen? Or you have to carry this separately?
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No, the bluetooth pen is much bigger. More like a real pen. But a big one.
I just purchased note 8.0 which is really great, but one thing is starting to annoy me (a little). That's the tip of the s-pen which is flexible (it moves on the sides a milimetr or two) and also if I press it against a surface the tip is pushed a 1/2 mm inside the s-pen.
I would much more preffer a stiff tip, like my pen's, and I was wondering if it's just a faulty s-pen I got, or if it's by design and all you have the same kind of s-pen tip?
If so... is there any way I can make the tip to be still like say... a pencil tip? What would be important is to have it reversible, so gluing the tip to the case is rather out of the question.
Any help from someone who was looking for the same thing as me?
lukair1983 said:
I just purchased note 8.0 which is really great, but one thing is starting to annoy me (a little). That's the tip of the s-pen which is flexible (it moves on the sides a milimetr or two) and also if I press it against a surface the tip is pushed a 1/2 mm inside the s-pen.
I would much more preffer a stiff tip, like my pen's, and I was wondering if it's just a faulty s-pen I got, or if it's by design and all you have the same kind of s-pen tip?
If so... is there any way I can make the tip to be still like say... a pencil tip? What would be important is to have it reversible, so gluing the tip to the case is rather out of the question.
Any help from someone who was looking for the same thing as me?
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Doesn't seem that your s-pen is faulty.
The Moving tip is part of Wacom tech and is what detects taps/clicks as well as pressure.
, however a mm or 2 2 sideways is a bit too much and should not happen.
My other Wacom pen for regular pc tablet (intuos) also dips in and out a bit, so that's normal.
Thanks for responding. I appriciate taking the time.
But isn't it true that you can use other manufacturers pens with galaxy note series, and some of them have stiff tips?
lukair1983 said:
Thanks for responding. I appriciate taking the time.
But isn't it true that you can use other manufacturers pens with galaxy note series, and some of them have stiff tips?
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I don't think you can use other manufacturer pens with note 8. Even Only few of the pens by wacom are compatible.
There are wacom pens with replaceable tips, but they more or less give a different surface feel as opposed to a rigid tip itself.
Oh, I didn't know that. So the s-pen's for Galaxy Note 8.0 are different than for other note's, in terms of technology? The thing about other pens I was writing in reference to other galaxy devices that use s-pen, where people said they purchased other (bigger) stylus'es.
lukair1983 said:
Oh, I didn't know that. So the s-pen's for Galaxy Note 8.0 are different than for other note's, in terms of technology? The thing about other pens I was writing in reference to other galaxy devices that use s-pen, where people said they purchased other (bigger) stylus'es.
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as far as i am aware, up to samsung Galaxy Note 3.0 all s-pen enabled devices have same underlying technology by wacom, so it's the same manufacturer (samsung/wacom).
however some pens might work across the board on a lot of devices and some might not due to device specific calibrations.
http://www.wacom.com/en/us/overlays/articles/2013/1027-samsung-galaxy-note
I see. Thanks for additional info.
I'm looking for a full sized stylus without any offset issue and have been following the other thread with interest but no-one yet seems to have found something which ticks all the boxes. I'm also a little confused about a couple of things and would appreciate some help. My Q's are:
Is the S-Pen powered and therefore charged by the tablet? I've got both the original and 2014 Note 10.1's and the stylus from the original works on the 2014 no problem and without offset. The thing is the battery is completely flat on the original as it's not been used for some time yet the stylus still works and I'm pretty sure it can't have any charge left in it so how is it then working?
The driver behind this is that I was looking to get a stylus holder for the 2014 stylus but can't find one so thought I'd get an original stylus/holder to use with the 2014 but the issue being I wouldn't be able to keep it charged as the original note is about to be sold.
I've read that the Surface Pro stylus works on the 2014 without much, if any offset. Looking around I found this stylus...
http://www.amazon.co.uk/2XNo1access...qid=1394362536&sr=1-1&keywords=surface+stylus ...and wondered is anyone had any experience of using one or know whether it would work with the 2014.
Any help guys, very much appreciated.
Edit: I've now found an old wide metal pen which both the original and 2014 styluss fits into, funny thing is when either stylus is placed inside the old pen they don't work on the 2014 screen but when they're taken out they both work fine. Weird, is this because the holder has a metal body?
GrandMasterPlank said:
I'm looking for a full sized stylus without any offset issue and have been following the other thread with interest but no-one yet seems to have found something which ticks all the boxes. I'm also a little confused about a couple of things and would appreciate some help. My Q's are:
Is the S-Pen powered and therefore charged by the tablet? I've got both the original and 2014 Note 10.1's and the stylus from the original works on the 2014 no problem and without offset. The thing is the battery is completely flat on the original as it's not been used for some time yet the stylus still works and I'm pretty sure it can't have any charge left in it so how is it then working?
The driver behind this is that I was looking to get a stylus holder for the 2014 stylus but can't find one so thought I'd get an original stylus/holder to use with the 2014 but the issue being I wouldn't be able to keep it charged as the original note is about to be sold.
I've read that the Surface Pro stylus works on the 2014 without much, if any offset. Looking around I found this stylus...
http://www.amazon.co.uk/2XNo1access...qid=1394362536&sr=1-1&keywords=surface+stylus ...and wondered is anyone had any experience of using one or know whether it would work with the 2014.
Any help guys, very much appreciated.
Edit: I've now found an old wide metal pen which both the original and 2014 styluss fits into, funny thing is when either stylus is placed inside the old pen they don't work on the 2014 screen but when they're taken out they both work fine. Weird, is this because the holder has a metal body?
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The stylus for the note series phones and tables do have or need batteries. There are two videos on YouTube that can explain it to you.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Thod_N0fnj4
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=beQq6-wr4i8
Wacom makes the Bamboo Feel that works well with the note tablets. https://store.wacom.com/us/en/product/CS300UK2?
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The stylus for the note series phones and tables do have or need batteries. There are two videos on YouTube that can explain it to you.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Thod_N0fnj4
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=beQq6-wr4i8
Wacom makes the Bamboo Feel that works well with the note tablets. https://store.wacom.com/us/en/product/CS300UK2?
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Wow, very clever stuff. Now it all makes sense! Thanks for the help.
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I'm looking for a full sized stylus without any offset issue.
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If a pen you're using has no offset issue on another Samsung Note device but does on your N10.1-14 then something's wrong with your N10.1-14. If the pen included with your N10.1-14 has an offset issue it should have it on all Samsung Note devices. I got a S Pen wet once and it developed an offset issue and I had to replace it so they can be damaged or defective. As for a full-size stylus my favorite is the HM-5100 which is also a BT headset. It's pricey though. It's the one on the bottom.
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If a pen you're using has no offset issue on another Samsung Note device but does on your N10.1-14 then something's wrong with your N10.1-14. If the pen included with your N10.1-14 has an offset issue it should have it on all Samsung Note devices. I got a S Pen wet once and it developed an offset issue and I had to replace it so they can be damaged or defective. As for a full-size stylus my favorite is the HM-5100 which is also a BT headset. It's pricey though. It's the one on the bottom.
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My current S-Pens don't have any offset, I'm looking for an additional full size stylus that doesn't have any offset issues but it appears most do. Your picture won't enlarge for some reason. Is the third one down one of these http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Genuine-E...UK_Mobiles_Accessories_RL&hash=item485ec2b59b ...if it is I'd be interested in knowing if you've noticed any offset issues with it? It uses the original 10.1 stylus right? It's also less than half the cost of the Bluetooth stylus, which is just too expensive.
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My current S-Pens don't have any offset, I'm looking for an additional full size stylus that doesn't have any offset issues but it appears most do. Your picture won't enlarge for some reason. Is the third one down one of these http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Genuine-E...UK_Mobiles_Accessories_RL&hash=item485ec2b59b ...if it is I'd be interested in knowing if you've noticed any offset issues with it? It uses the original 10.1 stylus right? It's also less than half the cost of the Bluetooth stylus, which is just too expensive.
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It's not a holder - it's a stand-alone stylus. I use it for voice commands and quick phone calls as its a true BT headset. It's great as a stylus because it's weighty and feels good against the glass panel. The button's also well placed so it's easier and more natural to use.
Here's a link...
http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/mobile-devices/smartphones/smartphone-accessories/BHM5100UWEGXEU
BarryH_GEG said:
It's not a holder - it's a stand-alone stylus. I use it for voice commands and quick phone calls as its a true BT headset. It's great as a stylus because it's weighty and feels good against the glass panel. The button's also well placed so it's easier and more natural to use.
Here's a link...
http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/mobile-devices/smartphones/smartphone-accessories/BHM5100UWEGXEU
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What he said.
The feel of the HM5100 is superb compared to the standard Spen. If it's charged then it doubles as a BT mic/speaker. If it's not charged then it's still the best feeling stylus that I've come across
Hello everyone,
I am not sure whether to get a note 10.1 or a tab s 10.5.
The tab s is better for me in everything except for the lack of spen.
To be honest the stylus would be useful for note taking purposes.
I dont care about the pressure sensitivity or fancy stuff.
Can you do this with a tab s and another pen?
Thanks!
Note taking is limited. Mainly due to lack of software. Fine tip c styluses work nicely on Tab s, the inductive type styluses do not.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171515775743
Try this....works OK but not 'fine' IMHO.