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"There will be no specific updates coming for the HTC One X to improve battery"
...say HTC.
It can all be found here at techradar.phones
Well what do you guys think? Are you satisfied by the battery considering the HOX's demanding setup? Mine lasts around ten hours with moderate to heavy use. Which is similar to my last phone, the SGS i9000. I found this quite acceptable.
HTC are a very reputable company, and often listen to their consumers (hence HTCdev). Is this latest move a shy away from that?
Would be great to hear everyones thoughts.
then...time to wait for mugen
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More than happy with mine. 2 days on battery with average use. 3 hours screen time during that time, with an hour using sat nav.
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Im happy with mine 8.5 hours mod use data off wen not in use my gs2 lasts 10 galaxy nexus lasts 9 so it aint really that bad plus the screens awesome
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I'm still waiting to see what mine will manage, before the update I had 11 hours. Come off charge this morning and this is what's left...
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The screen is such a power hog!
Eddzz!! said:
The screen is such a power hog!
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It is considering my brightness is on the lowest, and all network is off minus WiFi.
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I'm not having an high end smartphone to constantly be in battery problems.
I consider the battery usage as a real annoying problem with no option to buy extra batteries.
Who buys a smartphone to use as less as possible???
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Happy here with battery life of One X, battery is even better than it was in SGS2. For me at least. Around ~36h battery time while SGS2 ~30 hours when I was using it.
Gawwd why do people expect something with the resolution of a tv, and the same amount of cores of a high end pc, to not take much battery? I think its a bloody miracle these smartphones last longer than 5 minutes! As I've said before, you wouldn't expect a supercar to be economical?
Plus, the battery is an improvement to my dhd , so that is another miracle, considering the extra horsepower behind the one x
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Gawwd why do people expect something with the resolution of a tv, and the same amount of cores of a high end pc, to not take much battery? I think its a bloody miracle these smartphones last longer than 5 minutes! As I've said before, you wouldn't expect a supercar to be economical?
Plus, the battery is an improvement to my dhd , so that is another miracle, considering the extra horsepower behind the one x
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Where's the like button? I really do wonder what people expect. Get a Motorola if you want the battery to last you for a week.
More than happy with the battery life of the handset. Lasts me from when I leave home in the morning till when I get home at night and then some. Beats having to charge my phone during the day like on my DHD.
People need to get used to charging their phone every night, really don't understand people's issues with that. What's the big deal?
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I know!!! My DHD is on the charger every night! It doesn't bother me
Why would they? It's fine.
To all the "glass half empty" whining types. You guys do know these things charge from USBs right. I got a great solution; plug it in when its running low.
Besides, the battery life is staggeringly good if you think about it. Mine lasts 2 days for simple calling and texting here and there and a whole day for quite heavy usage, browsing, YouTube, calls and so on. 18hours total, 4-4.5 hours screen on, 40/50mb data and 1.5 hours of calls yesterday, put it away at 1%, still not dead 2 hours of standby later.
Mine's OK, not great. I really didn't expect it to be. It'll be interesting to see how the S4 One XL does now that it's shipping. If it's about the same (with LTE off) than it's not a Teg3 issue. If it's dramatically better than we know it's not the display alone causing battery challenges.
I think that no update coming anytime soon is acceptable but no update AT ALL?
Im sorry but f*** that! Why can't they focus abit on the battery, some simple things would be to have less CRAP and bloatware, maybe if they could release 2 versions 1. simplified with the sense camera ONLY and rest ICS and the other with the full sense package that is really no necessary.
The most important thing to remember is that this a a PHONE to make calls and for that it works nicely and the battery lasts if you keep the screen off most of the time, but for a phone like this that was made to do more things I think you need to at the very least have a battery or a software symbiosis that can last for 8,9 hours of screen time.
Its Tegra 3 for f*** sake! With the super-dupe-triple-super-important-kill core2dou like nothing-quad-core-and a dedicated 5 companion core THAT IS SUPPOSE TO DELIVER KILLER BATTERY LIFE.
What is the problem?
I think there is simply too much Sense on the phone, too many uneceassy widgets and other crap that run in the background (oh you can flash cusom rom bla bla, you can freeze services with Titanium backup bla bla, but what if I want to use a stock rom?) bull**** I say, wih such and advanced CPU and memory and so on I do not see why you cannot have better battery life.
My Samsung Galaxy S2 can work for up to 3 days (ok it has a AMOLED ok ok but still, touchwhiz seems to not over run ICS) On stock ICS. Why? Because they have less 'painted over ICS functions that almost makes it run 2 OS's at the same time so maybe its no wonder the battery gets chewed up by all the sense applications.
This just my opinion from observing the phone and all the fanzy sense stuff after a week.
I believe this phone could be better in terms of software (without a doubt).
One thing they have to adress is the camera, why cant the image files be bigger than 2.9 megapixels? This is so stupid considering it has an 8 mpx camera... Also the full HD and 720p records in the latest firmware 1.28xx at approximately 24 fps and it should be 29 or 30. My Asus Prime records at a steady 30 fps at 1080p and 720p and its running Tegra 3 too.
They MUST at some point focus on battery life because if you dont have the juice to run all those fanzy apps and UI then why are they there in the first place?
I LOVE the weather graphics but I could live without it too (If I absolutely HAVE to....) the only thing necessary is the camera sense app because its the only thing that makes the phone unique and very fun and nice (but again whats the point without proper battery life?)
I hope HTC continues to work on making this one of the best first quad-core phone.
Another thing I noticed with SetCpu is that the phone is very high frequencies very frequently, if you install it and use the phone for a day you will see the graph scale, it uses 1.4 abut 40% of the time, but why? I never played games during this period or anything.
Im gonna keep my 1X because I love it and I believe in it and in the HTCdevs if they cant just be more positive perhaps
Cheers!
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Why would they? It's fine.
To all the "glass half empty" whining types. You guys do know these things charge from USBs right. I got a great solution; plug it in when its running low.
Besides, the battery life is staggeringly good if you think about it. Mine lasts 2 days for simple calling and texting here and there and a whole day for quite heavy usage, browsing, YouTube, calls and so on. 18hours total, 4-4.5 hours screen on, 40/50mb data and 1.5 hours of calls yesterday, put it away at 1%, still not dead 2 hours of standby later.
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4-4.5 hrs screen on isn't typical usage that the majority are getting though. Closer to 3 hrs.
It's easier to be quick to judge others when your own device defies the norm for the better.
If you were struggling to get 2.5 hrs , I doubt you'd be as chirpy about it all.
Two words that will help battery life without HTC - "custom kernels"
If you need to see the difference they make just ask in one of faux's threads, e.g. in the Sensation dev forum.
did the update improve the batterie life and if so , does the HOX still run as fast or did things low down ?
Pretty much echo the below , i have had an sgs2 and have an xperia s and this phone with its companion core is at least 33% worse on battery than both of these, and the processor is supposed to be more efficient . The display excuse won't wash much as the xperia s display is at least as bright/power hungry if not more .
I would love to see the exchange / return rates on this handset due to it not living up to its hype , let alone the fault rates.
And i am not whining, i upgraded to one, i like it , i will keep it and maybe one day learn to root it and replace the rom, but lets not kid ourselves its just not a finished polished product in terms of software !
thats my 2p, thanks for reading
james
Johnny0906 said:
I think that no update coming anytime soon is acceptable but no update AT ALL?
Im sorry but f*** that! Why can't they focus abit on the battery, some simple things would be to have less CRAP and bloatware, maybe if they could release 2 versions 1. simplified with the sense camera ONLY and rest ICS and the other with the full sense package that is really no necessary.
The most important thing to remember is that this a a PHONE to make calls and for that it works nicely and the battery lasts if you keep the screen off most of the time, but for a phone like this that was made to do more things I think you need to at the very least have a battery or a software symbiosis that can last for 8,9 hours of screen time.
Its Tegrra 3 for f*** sake! With the super-dupe-triple-super-important-kill core2dou like nothing-quad-core-and a dedicated 5 companion core THAT IS SUPPOSE TO DELIVER KILLER BATTERY LIFE.
What is the problem?
I think there is simply too much Sense on the phone, too many uneceassy widgets and other crap that run in the background (oh you can flash cusom rom bla bla, you can freeze services with Titanium backup bla bla, but what if I want to use a stock rom?) bull**** I say, wih such and advanced CPU and memory and so on I do not see why you cannot have better battery life.
My Samsung Galaxy S2 can work for up to 3 days (ok it has a AMOLED ok ok but still, touchwhiz seems to not over run ICS) On stock ICS. Why? Because they have less 'painted over ICS functions that almost makes it run 2 OS's at the same time so maybe its no wonder the battery gets chewed up by all the sense applications.
This just my opinion from observing the phone and all the fanzy sense stuff after a week.
I believe this phone could be better in terms of software (without a doubt).
They MUST at some point focus on battery life because if you dont have the juice to run all those fanzy apps and UI then why are they there in the first place?
I hope HTC continues to work on making this one of the best and first quad-core phones.
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With these larger screens and powerful processors, I can't say I'm totally surprised at the lower battery life compared to all the iPhones. They have smaller screens and the O/S is more tightly controlled and optimized for the hardware to maximize battery life.
With that said, I must admit, I'm somewhat disappointed with the battery life on this S3. I've now had it for two weeks so after lots of tweaking, rooting, apps installs and configs, battery and task monitoring, etc, I've kind of settled into my normal usage pattern which is typically pretty easy on the phone as more than 50% of the time I'm working from my home office with the phone plugged into USB so it is rare I have to leave in the morning and go the whole day without having to eventually sit back down at my computer and plug the phone back in.
However on the weekends, with kids sports and such, I'm now seeing the limitations on battery life on this phone. I have it set to:
Auto Display Brightness
No updating of apps unless on WiFi
GPS and Wifi turned off when I leave the houose (automatically via Llama - I turn them on only when I need them)
Power Saver Mode, all options except CPU power saving checked. (Kind of bought the phone for fast CPU although I'm not a gamer - just a multitasker and web browser)
Auto Screen Tone Turned On
Most other specific apps that have option to not download data except wifi I have that option turned on (aside from Taptu news feeds - 2 hour updates and Alerts from ESPN ScoreCenter - get maybe a couple alerts every few hours)
Haptic feedback turned off
Here's where I was shocked. First time I did some serious browsing was in a movie theater where I got there early and had about 20 min to burn so I did constant web browsing over the LTE connection. Watched batter plummet about 15% in 15 min. Whoa!
So is this just "how it is" with this phone that heavy LTE data usage eats battery like no tomorrow?
Other thing I noticed, is Using GSam, I see a task usually being in the top 3 or 4 most of the time with around 15-20% of the App Battery Usage total. It's called "System (*wakelock*)" and when I look at properties it shows around 6-8 wakelocks and Included Packages is just one "PowerAMP Full Version Unlocker" Included Processes: *wakelock* and com.maxmpx.audioplayer. But this is when I'm not using PowerAMP. In fact it happens after phone has been rebooted and I have never launched PowerAMP once!
I did notice something similar on the HTC One X+ I tried then exchanged for the S3 where I found a task associated with beats audio was eating up CPU/Battery when no music app was open as if it was periodically scanning my large MP3 library of 2,600 songs. Maybe PowerAmp is doing something similar?
I've found I'm not the only one noticing this:
http://forum.powerampapp.com/index.php?/topic/2662-battery-drain/
Well, first off, i think the main reason why the iPhone gets better battery life isn't because of the smaller screen or iOS being "optimized for the hardware". It's probably more due to the fact that it doesn't really run much of anything in the background. Very few apps actually continue to run when you leave them. It's kind of a pseudo-multitasking environment.
As for the S3's battery life.... it could be PowerAmp causing it. I also don't see why you'd want to keep power saving on the CPU off. It doesn't really seem to have that much of an impact on performance that i've seen while generally using the phone for web browsing and such. And no matter what phone you're on, LTE will kill the battery in no time flat.
I think you should give some time to settle your battery first...even after flashing a new rom its take couple of days for the battery to settle down. The first day i used my phone, the battery doed in 4 hours...now after 4 months it lasts for 15-16 hrs of normal to heavy use.
LTE does eat lots of battery, whenever i go in LTE area i have to switch my data off to keep my phone alive. That's why people like to have the ability to switch between LTE and HSPA+. Search to find that mod.
You can never compare iPhone with S3. As the above poster said, there is no multitasking in iPhones. The screen is small and not as good as S3. SAMLOED screen takes lots of battery.
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I think you should give some time to settle your battery first...even after flashing a new rom its take couple of days for the battery to settle down. The first day i used my phone, the battery doed in 4 hours...now after 4 months it lasts for 15-16 hrs of normal to heavy use.
LTE does eat lots of battery, whenever i go in LTE area i have to switch my data off to keep my phone alive. That's why people like to have the ability to switch between LTE and HSPA+. Search to find that mod.
You can never compare iPhone with S3. As the above poster said, there is no multitasking in iPhones. The screen is small and not as good as S3. SAMLOED screen takes lots of battery.
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I totally agree with you. You have to give it time to settle in. You can also run a battery calibration to try and help as well. I have LTE here in Omaha and I usually get at least 15 hours before I need to charge my battery. I have a QCell battery and it works awesome.
I will live with the battery life so I can actually see the screen without having to squint my eyes. I used to have an iPhone as well but that was years ago now and Android will always be the best.
Don't get me wrong, as a "Power User" coming from the iOS Jailbreak world, hardware and customization-wise, I love this phone a lot more than I like my iPhone - but mostly it's the big screen that I'm enjoying. Have had a couple crashes in the first two weeks which never happened in iOS but no biggie.
So I suspect its primarily the LTE, but combined with large screen, true multitasking O/S, etc, obviously battery life is a challenge. I would slightly criticize Samsung for maybe being a little too obsessed with keeping the phone thin. I know you can buy the bigger batteries with a replacement cover but that looks like it really adds major thickness to phone. They should have went for a 2500-2700 mah battery and increased the thickness slightly IMHO.
But hey, at least the battery is removable. So I can spend little money and get a QCell, charge it and keep it in my car or on my desk and if I know I'm not going to be able to charge the phone all day, just pop the extra battery in my jacket pocket.
The LTE usage is a bit of a mystery to me. You would figure, with LTE, you can download files faster so you spend less time actually using the phone. But obviously it appears the energy consumption is trumping the increased efficiency in data transfer! Too bad.
Why the battery 'breaks in' over time is even more of a mystery. This latest battery technology should not have any sort of break-in or memory issues. But I'm no battery expert. But my gut says there's something else at play. I've seen many threads over past couple of years that discuss an issue relating to Android doing some sort of "media scan" after boot and/or periodically. Maybe the battery break-in is more about the databases the O/S is creating and updating in the background "settling down" more than anything to do with the characteristics of the physical battery changing?
One thing is for certain though, battery life IS a common issue for most higher-end Android smartphone users. Not a deal breaker in the least for me, but will be interesting to see how the phone "seasons" over time regarding battery. I used Titanium Backup to freeze Power Amp and downloaded N7 instead just to rule Power Amp out. I just took a 1.5 hour shopping trip. Didn't use LTE data. But spent about 45 minutes at the grocery store using their wifi to access all my coupons and shopping lists. Battery was 97% when I left house, 77% when I got home. Ouch. Well, that was probably more like a 2 hour round trip. Still 20% in 2 hours is not good especially considering I had 0 talk time and wasn't using LTE data.
The crazy thing is, Gsam says 12% screen, 86% apps. Under apps it says 23.6% Kernel, 19.3% Media, 19.3% N7 Player!!! And I didn't play any music!!!! This is leading me more and more to believe this all has something to do with having an extremely large music collection (2600 songs) on the phone and the phone is building a database and it just takes time. Pure guess.
Get his app disable autostart of the applications that are not needed. Also, get betterbatterystats to get a more detailed idea of whats going on with your phone.
how bad is your battery life? fwiw my wife's iPhone 5 gets horrendous battery life. makes the s3 look like a miser.
16 - 20 hours would be reasonable IMHO, or a average drain of 4-5% per hour. assuming you're actually using the thing... I never understood people who cripple the thing and never touch it in order to get max life.
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how bad is your battery life? fwiw my wife's iPhone 5 gets horrendous battery life. makes the s3 look like a miser.
16 - 20 hours would be reasonable IMHO, or a average drain of 4-5% per hour. assuming you're actually using the thing... I never understood people who cripple the thing and never touch it in order to get max life.
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Iphone5 has a bigger screen then previous apples and it's also Lte. It's multitask has been improved too. It's not a secret its battery life plummeted.
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You know when someone pushes away an iPhone groupy I'm pretty sympathetic but this post is just a noob rage idiotic post. I didn't even read through all your points but will just say you need to spend more time learning
-there is autobrightness on root (and non rooted) and in fact autobrightness doesn't necessarily save battery...as much utiltiy as having say a brightness notification in the app bar or something like lux that allows you to control brigntness by environment/app etc
-it says nothing of what you have running in the background, spam apps, wakelocks etc (bbs) The fact your apps and music is taking up more battery than say cell tower stanbdy and screen display is an obvious red flag
- says nothing of how you checked your connections and how reception is in your area
Another point is the iphone 4 and 5 are MUCH thicker than the galaxy s3...they hold relative to the backgroudn processes etc running, a much larger and thicker battery. The same physical thickness of the s3 battery you could buy a battery with nearly twice as much juice.
We dont' know how you optimized your phone for your uses or whether you cleaned up processes, apps etc, how cleanly you flashed. Go and learn then come back and cry
Wow.... you tell him to learn then come back and cry.... say it's a "noob rage idiotic post".... and yet:
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Other thing I noticed, is Using GSam, I see a task usually being in the top 3 or 4 most of the time with around 15-20% of the App Battery Usage total. It's called "System (*wakelock*)" and when I look at properties it shows around 6-8 wakelocks and Included Packages is just one "PowerAMP Full Version Unlocker" Included Processes: *wakelock* and com.maxmpx.audioplayer. But this is when I'm not using PowerAMP. In fact it happens after phone has been rebooted and I have never launched PowerAMP once!
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I'm sorry... but exactly what did he not mention about wakelock's?
You obviously didn't read the first sentence of my second most before you posted this, which said:
Don't get me wrong, as a "Power User" coming from the iOS Jailbreak world, hardware and customization-wise, I love this phone a lot more than I like my iPhone
I know all about Better Battery Stats, bla bla bla. I'm no idiot. Just giving some initial impressions and asking for a little further guidance.
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You know when someone pushes away an iPhone groupy I'm pretty sympathetic but this post is just a noob rage idiotic post. I didn't even read through all your points but will just say you need to spend more time learning
-there is autobrightness on root (and non rooted) and in fact autobrightness doesn't necessarily save battery...as much utiltiy as having say a brightness notification in the app bar or something like lux that allows you to control brigntness by environment/app etc
-it says nothing of what you have running in the background, spam apps, wakelocks etc (bbs) The fact your apps and music is taking up more battery than say cell tower stanbdy and screen display is an obvious red flag
- says nothing of how you checked your connections and how reception is in your area
Another point is the iphone 4 and 5 are MUCH thicker than the galaxy s3...they hold relative to the backgroudn processes etc running, a much larger and thicker battery. The same physical thickness of the s3 battery you could buy a battery with nearly twice as much juice.
We dont' know how you optimized your phone for your uses or whether you cleaned up processes, apps etc, how cleanly you flashed. Go and learn then come back and cry
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Well here's an update. As I mentioned, I froze PowerAmp and installed N7 instead. I could have swore I reset the GSAM battery monitor, AFTER N7 scanned all my media files. Yet once again, like PowerAmp (via System *wakelock*) N7 was third highest battery eater over 2 hours of "normal" usage WITHOUT LTE Data Use, only Wifi and NO TALK TIME and WITHOUT USING N7!
So I dumped N7 and installed Player Pro. Just went out again for 2 hours to my son's basketball practice. Spent the 1.5 hour practice reading e-mail and doing some web surfing ALL ON LTE! Battery went down like no more than 10% !! At the beginning of the practice I played a song in Player Pro for a few seconds then backed out of the app. Checked GSAM 2 hours later, no significant PlayerPro battery usage!
It is more and more looking like something is going on with PowerAmp and N7 regarding cataloging of large music collections. So I'll stick with Player Pro and see how things go over the next few days.
Thanks to those with the constructive criticism. This has been one of the pluses of moving to Android. There's a lot larger population of "Power Users" than on iPhone that are willing to help someone relatively new to the platform.
yea... that's the one thing i had a feeling it might have been doing, but wasn't exactly sure as i've never really been that media-crazy with my phones. Good to see that you found the issue, though.
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Why the battery 'breaks in' over time is even more of a mystery. This latest battery technology should not have any sort of break-in or memory issues. But I'm no battery expert. But my gut says there's something else at play.
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Yeah, "battery break-in" is a bit of a misnomer. What's actually happening is that the stats the OS keeps on the battery capacity and usage are being rebuilt. It takes a few charge cycles for your system to "learn" what it needs to accurately show you remaining capacity, etc.
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So I dumped N7 and installed Player Pro. Just went out again for 2 hours to my son's basketball practice. Spent the 1.5 hour practice reading e-mail and doing some web surfing ALL ON LTE! Battery went down like no more than 10% !! At the beginning of the practice I played a song in Player Pro for a few seconds then backed out of the app. Checked GSAM 2 hours later, no significant PlayerPro battery usage!
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Good move! I use PlayerPro and I love it. It's one of my few "must haves", not least of which is its ability to sync ratings back to iTunes with iSyncr. None of the other major players have this. This is important for me as I'm also an iOS refugee and I still have all my music in iTunes.
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Well here's an update. As I mentioned, I froze PowerAmp and installed N7 instead. I could have swore I reset the GSAM battery monitor, AFTER N7 scanned all my media files. Yet once again, like PowerAmp (via System *wakelock*) N7 was third highest battery eater over 2 hours of "normal" usage WITHOUT LTE Data Use, only Wifi and NO TALK TIME and WITHOUT USING N7!
So I dumped N7 and installed Player Pro. Just went out again for 2 hours to my son's basketball practice. Spent the 1.5 hour practice reading e-mail and doing some web surfing ALL ON LTE! Battery went down like no more than 10% !! At the beginning of the practice I played a song in Player Pro for a few seconds then backed out of the app. Checked GSAM 2 hours later, no significant PlayerPro battery usage!
It is more and more looking like something is going on with PowerAmp and N7 regarding cataloging of large music collections. So I'll stick with Player Pro and see how things go over the next few days.
Thanks to those with the constructive criticism. This has been one of the pluses of moving to Android. There's a lot larger population of "Power Users" than on iPhone that are willing to help someone relatively new to the platform.
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power user here too coming from iphone 3g, 3gs, 4 to samsung skyrocket, note, nexus to the current at&t sgs3. all have been jailbroken and rooted for "customization" purposes and the first thing i noticed going to the android phones was how poor the battery life was when compared to any iOS device; even when the devices were stock. I can deal with it because of how much customization i can do with android that i can't do on iOS so for that reason alone i stick with android. and also nothing apple has done has impressed me with their iPhone series yet. might pick up an iPad mini retina one day :laugh:
anyways, back to your battery issue. have you tried going to stock rom or formatting just to make sure its not a hardware issue? i know for mine, one time my data partition that had my music had some corrupt file that had the media scanner always running and killing my battery. i had tried everything and there was no way that in 8 hrs i'd have < 30% left with no usage. i finally deleted and formatted everything, went to pure stock with no files except for my contacts and no email sync. then i got 15 to 20 hours... that's usual for the sgs3, a tad less than my old iphone 4. that told me my battery wasn't bad.
i ended up keeping an eye on wakelocks and re-installing all my apps and putting all my music back on and my battery issue dissapeared and i'm happy. still have poweramp installed, but moved to using google music for cloud and local music. what made me really happy was going to a hyperion battery and the slimmer extended sedio case for 2 to 3 days of battery life on this sucker for a decent price. :good: still have the stock batter for backup too!
I'm not on a Custom ROM. Just rooted.
I installed Better Battery Stats to see how it worked. Don't like it as much as GSAM. Seems you can get a bit lower-level process info upfront, but the graphing is barely readable and it doesn't show percent usage of battery for each process. Just number of s(econds) and blue and red line? Maybe I'm missing a setting? I think BBS may be popular as maybe it existed before GSAM (formerly Badass Battery Monitor I think) or maybe there is just something about BBS that I haven't realized yet is a major advantage over GSAM? They both do the job. Sorry for going off on a tangent.
The process hogging the battery the most now is Google Maps and I know from searching and reading this is VERY common. It can be related to ANY app wanting to poll your location. I'm not yet sure though if the usage is excessive. Looks like not. I turned off all of the Location settings in Maps (but left "Location and Google search" in main Location Setting ON as I read that really defeats a lot of functionality. Google Now wasn't happy I turned of Location History (in Maps) but I still get the current commute times and local weather on my Google Now so I have yet to discover any big disadvantage of turning off most (not all) of the Location settings in Maps if you don't want to share your location or see your location history.
Apparently Google Now and potentially other apps like Facebook, etc. want to use Google Maps to poll where you are. One user said turning off History helped on the battery - makes sense as now Google Now isn't constantly trying to see where you are even if the phone is just sitting on your nightstand! I hate that big brother feeling so anytime an app has an option to turn location awareness off, I usually use it. When I go to use Maps I just turn the GPS on. But I still need to learn what I'm missing out on, when turning off some of these settings. Now I'd like to figure out how to get GPS to turn on automatically any time Maps is manually launched and then turned off automatically anytime maps is closed! That would be nice. Surprised that function isn't built-in to Android as opposed to just prompting you to take you to settings. Guess I may have to break down and learn how to code in Tasker instead of using Llama for my automation needs.
I've left the phone unplugged for what, 8 hours now. Very light usage today. I'm at 80%. BBS is showing 3.5%/hour. That's 28 hours. But like I said, no talk time on the phone today, a half dozen texts, no web browsing and maybe 30 min of total app usage so I would expect 3.5%/hour.
Bottom line is it looks like I don't have any major issues like I had on the stupid HTC One X+ that was getting hot. Seems like the media player switch is what did the trick. I'm just curious why apps as popular as N7 and PowerAmp would be any different. It could have been just timing in that I switch to Pro Player about the time the O/S was done doing it cataloging of the media or whatever it does. I'm sure 2,600 high bitrate songs (14GB) of songs on the sdcard is pretty above average for your typical Android User. Wish there was more in-depth technical documentation on some of these processes though published by Google for us Power Users to read if so desired. Guess that's why we have XDA Forum.
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Duh, just saw the first condition in Llama is "Active Application" the problem is, I only want the GPS to turn on when I manually launch the app myself. I hope an app trying to use Maps in the background doesn't trigger the GPS on. Guess I'll find out.
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I forgot why this isn't possible. Google doesn't want to allow ANY apps to turn GPS on/off automatically due to privacy issues. Is there a setting to let the user decide this? Make me feel like they're treating me like an idiot!
Got my ZenWatch yesterday and charged it up and used it all day today.. but after just 13 hours - the battery was down to 5%. Most of the reviews I've read suggest 24-36 hours of use.
Anyone else finding the batteries are a little light?
Give the battery a bit of time to settle in. And plus your using the watch a bit more intensively than designed for.
I would be very interested how you'll go after a few days, and a few charge cycles.
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Got my ZenWatch yesterday and charged it up and used it all day today.. but after just 13 hours - the battery was down to 5%. Most of the reviews I've read suggest 24-36 hours of use.
Anyone else finding the batteries are a little light?
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The reviews are definitely biased. Mine dropped 50% in only 4 hrs with brightness sett to minimum. Totally dissatisfied with this watch. The performance doesn't even come close to matching the looks.
my wife takes it off the charger at 7:30. When I looked last night around 12:00, it still had 35%. She has it always-on and I think brightness at 3...
I did notice that it seem to disconnect from her phone at a shorter distance than my moto would. Both watches connected to note 4s.
Here is something to think about. I had the moto 360 and returned it primarily do to battery life. Had it for two weeks and hoped it would get better but I would take it off the charger at 530 am and it would be dead before 5 pm sometimes even early afternoon. I got this watch set it up and charged it over night. Took it off the charger at 530 and it was dead by noon the first day. Second took it off the charger at 530 and it lasted until 5. I was thinking I would have to return it but yesterday I took it off at 530 am and at 11 pm it still had 13%. I have been going always on, brightness at 2 or 3. I get a ton of email and text. What I'm saying is maybe it's too early to tell....I got two full days with the gear neo but it just wasn't as cool.
The battery life is excellent here.
One of the review says the battery is horrible if you have "unlock my phone" feature checked on Zenwatch manager. So try to deactivate that feature and try it.
The battery life on my Zenwatch is excellent. I am confident that it will last me the whole day even with active use.
Usually there may be some 3rd party apps that can drain the battery, such as incompatible watch Face.
Couldn't be happier with the battery life! Getting through a full 12-16 hour day with plenty to spare.
Seems like the better battery life is holding up. Took it off the charger at 530 and it is now 10 and I still have 18%.....haven't changed my habits. Won't last even close to two days. But one full day is acceptable.
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Give the battery a bit of time to settle in. And plus your using the watch a bit more intensively than designed for.
I would be very interested how you'll go after a few days, and a few charge cycles.
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I think you're right - on day two, I'm at 33% after the same time elapsed. I actually don't use it too intensely and I leave the brightness at 1. We'll see how it goes over the next week.
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One of the review says the battery is horrible if you have "unlock my phone" feature checked on Zenwatch manager. So try to deactivate that feature and try it.
The battery life on my Zenwatch is excellent. I am confident that it will last me the whole day even with active use.
Usually there may be some 3rd party apps that can drain the battery, such as incompatible watch Face.
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Definitely, in fact, I removed all the Wear apps from my phone because Wellness was killing my phone's performance, then when I noticed the Watch still thought it was using Wellness, I factory reset the watch and reinstalled just a few apps and left things like 'unlock my phone' off... and it's doing better today.
Thanks everyone for the input.
Keep us updated
I'm waiting for it to be released in Australia.. getting impatient.
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I unplugged my watch at 6:30 yesterday morning. At 7:30 pm it still had 63% left. I don't bother with any type of wellness app, at all. I don't bother with any type of 'find my phone' or 'find my watch' or phone unlocking app. I don't use the always on feature, but keep brightness on 3 due to being outside quite often. I use the watch strictly for notifications, and replying to Hangouts messages via the voice input. I have 3 weather locations set in Google Now that all show on my watch, and I play Words With Friends with a dozen different people. Between all that, plus emails, texts and calls I get 100s of notifications throughout each day. To have 63% left at the end of the workday is very acceptable. I could easily go out after work till the wee hours of the morning without any worry of the battery giving out before I do.
Mine goes all day and evening with plenty of juice to spare. I have taken no measures to preserve the battery. I use it to unlock my moto x as well. No issues with battery life that I have seen after 3 days of using the watch.
After the first day of crappie battery life. I am getting a good 18 hours. I'm not doing anything either to preserve battery life. It is WAY better than my moto 360 experience. I usually only have 10 to 13 % left when I put it on the charger but I would charge every night anyway.
It's been good for me... I've been using it with the display always on plus one or more watch faces with weather. Gets me about 16 hours or so. I've been using turn by turn navigation plus media control quite a bit. I've also spent an hour or more playing with facer watch faces.
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My watch has now been off the charger for a little over ten hours and I still have 63% battery life left. Holy crap! Best battery life yet, by far, since I've had the watch. Guess it takes about a week to settle in. Couldn't be happier.
Update: It's now been about 13 hours off the charger, and my watch just hit 50%... Starting to think this 2 day battery life claim holds water... Very happy right now!
Much improved now... 14.5 hrs on constantly and I'm at 52%.. which means it should be good for another 14.5 hrs which is 29 hours total run time.
I only need 18 so getting 29 is more than excellent!
I think the battery "guestimate" needs a short while to settle in with such a small battery. The first couple days I actually saw my battery percentage go *up* 3-5% between checking it. When it's saying it's low the first few days you have it, it likely actually isn't.
One last note - as has been mentioned before - some apps can really just suck the watch's battery dry, even apps that seem like they shouldn't. I hope Goog gets a handle on this because there's no really good way that I can see to know in advance other than installing and checking battery use over a day.
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One last note - as has been mentioned before - some apps can really just suck the watch's battery dry, even apps that seem like they shouldn't. I hope Goog gets a handle on this because there's no really good way that I can see to know in advance other than installing and checking battery use over a day.
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Can anyone post anything they have done differently to get the better life. I'm getting close to 2 weeks with it, have seen it get better after it "settled in", but I'm still trying to get a little better. I can make it through the day, but usually only barely and I'm over the constantly fiddling with it part of ownership. I get maybe 50-60 notifications a day. I've tried uninstalling apps, trying to stick with stock watchfaces, it's really hard to tell.
I'm really looking forward to the next update so that I can see what apps are using the battery. I tried the Wear Battery App, but someone suggested they thought it was draining the battery itself. Just seeing if there is a consensus on what works and what doesn't. I have removed almost all the ASUS apps, the unlock one really helped a lot. Thanks.
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Can anyone post anything they have done differently to get the better life. I'm getting close to 2 weeks with it, have seen it get better after it "settled in", but I'm still trying to get a little better. I can make it through the day, but usually only barely and I'm over the constantly fiddling with it part of ownership. I get maybe 50-60 notifications a day. I've tried uninstalling apps, trying to stick with stock watchfaces, it's really hard to tell.
I'm really looking forward to the next update so that I can see what apps are using the battery. I tried the Wear Battery App, but someone suggested they thought it was draining the battery itself. Just seeing if there is a consensus on what works and what doesn't. I have removed almost all the ASUS apps, the unlock one really helped a lot. Thanks.
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I have no such problem but a co-worker was having terrible drain and he uninstalled the Asus Zenwatch manager itself and it fixed his problem. Best advice I can give is to uninstall all the apps other than the android wear app, and maybe even kill it just to see what happens, and then slowly add them back in.
For comparison, I took mine off the charger at 7am this morning so after 12 hours I'm at 55%. I dim the display but don't turn it off. I'm using a nice face from the Intellicom app and I probably get several hundred notifications over the course of the day. I'm more than happy with this device.
I am experiencing massive battery drain whenever I use an app that puts multimedia controls on the watch. The watch is a Moto360 with the latest firmware. My Android Wear app is up to date. This problem has occurred on both a Nexus 5 (5.01 and 5.0.2) as well as a new HTC One M9 (5.0.2).
I get fantastic battery life on my Moto360. Routinely I get 18 - 24 hours and never have to worry about the battery during the day. When I travel, if I listen to Google Play Music or PocketCasts my battery life plunges. Yesterday I have a 5 hour drive and I listened to podcasts for the entire trip. I didn't not touch the watch (did not use the multimedia controls). My watch was dead within 6 hours. This is 100% repeatable every time I use Google Play Music or PocketsCasts.
I tried adding both apps to the notification exclusion list in the Android Wear app and it made no difference. The watch has recently been reset and paired with a new phone as well.
I'm having the same issue with mine, unfortunately.
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I am experiencing massive battery drain whenever I use an app that puts multimedia controls on the watch. The watch is a Moto360 with the latest firmware. My Android Wear app is up to date. This problem has occurred on both a Nexus 5 (5.01 and 5.0.2) as well as a new HTC One M9 (5.0.2).
I get fantastic battery life on my Moto360. Routinely I get 18 - 24 hours and never have to worry about the battery during the day. When I travel, if I listen to Google Play Music or PocketCasts my battery life plunges. Yesterday I have a 5 hour drive and I listened to podcasts for the entire trip. I didn't not touch the watch (did not use the multimedia controls). My watch was dead within 6 hours. This is 100% repeatable every time I use Google Play Music or PocketsCasts.
I tried adding both apps to the notification exclusion list in the Android Wear app and it made no difference. The watch has recently been reset and paired with a new phone as well.
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Have you been able to solve this? I am having the same issue
I heard that they will fix this issue in next firmware update
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I heard that they will fix this issue in next firmware update
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When you say next firmware update are you referring to 5.1 or something after that?
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I heard that they will fix this issue in next firmware update
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Where did you see this news. This multimedia battery drainage issue is a real deal breaker
I like tech and I like watches. I consider myself a mid-level watch guy. My watch of choice is another one they were still American Made. I have one in particular that I wear almost all of the time. I've been using the Moto360 for a week now.Since I routinely sleep in two different places and do not want to carry the charging dock around with me. I wanna a USB charger. I saw some guys recommendations.But still not find one interested.It really get me upset.
You can use any qi charger to charhe it
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Hello everyone, for about 2 years I was on iPhone, now I'm going back to Android. I'm seriously considering buying LG G4, but I'm not completely sure that it is right choice, so I would like to have feedback from real users, as I believe they're much more accurate than reviews on portals, magazines etc. So here is what I'm looking for ordered by importance:
1. Most important thing for me is that mobile is reliable, that it doesn't crash often, doesn't heat much in normal usage (I don't plan to play HC games on mobile, but I might form time to time), etc.
2. Battery life - I'd like to squeeze out 24hrs of usage, or at least 16hrs. By that I mean I'd like to while going to work listen to music surf on 3g, or watch youtube video, and when I'm returning from work I'd like to do those same things without fearing that battery will die. (during work I don't use mobile that much)
3. I'd like my mobile to be good enough 1.5/2 years from now. I don't expect it to be excellent or anything like that, but I'd like to have mobile which in 2 years from now will be ok for let's say baisc day to day usage (by basic I mean listening to music, reading emails, browsing the net, watching youtube etc.)
4. Screen quality
My biggest concerns with G4 are battery life and screen size (which is too big for me, but this one is personal, I can live with it). Also while browsing XDA I found this tread with many users complianing about boot loops, what's with that ? As I understood first versions of LG have this problem (the ones with 505-509 in their SN).
So based on my needs / preferences do you think I'll be satisfied with G4 ? Also what are your general thoughts about this mobile phone after using it for a while, do you like it ?
No reboots or bootloops here. I've not experienced any drastic heat. My last check of battery stats showed 38hrs with 5 and a half hrs screen SOT. It has quick charge as well in case you do drain the battery quickly so doesn't take long at all to get back to fully charged
Thanks for your answer In the end I'm probably gonna go with Samsung S6 Edge