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Hey All,
As the title (I hope) indicates, I'm looking to get a bluetooth keyboard to hook up to my INC2. I (suppose) foolishly bought a keyboard already (Motorola Xoom) and I thought no prob- updated software, bluetooth is bluetooth, and I should be good to go. Not so. I can pair them, but I cant get they keyboard to actually work as an input device.
Also, I cant seem to pair that keyboard (successfully) with my PS3. I dont think I'm just bad at pairing things, as I'm able to do it with tons of other stuff, so I'm looking for advice. Did I pair it wrong somehow? Do I need to get a different keyboard? Will the INC2 just not work with keyboards?
Thanks so much!
Sleepraider
nothing?Any thoughts? Is the keyboard crap? Is this a obvious thing that I missed? Any keyboards known to work that are relatively inexpensive?
See if you can find an app on the market that supports bluetooth keyboard support, Most often what you need is a substitute keyboard app, kind of like when people hook up PS3 remotes or wii motes to their phones. Here's a link to an app I just quickly searched up as an example. I can't personally vouch for it though.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.mybesttools.btkbservice&feature=search_result
lightninjay said:
See if you can find an app on the market that supports bluetooth keyboard support, Most often what you need is a substitute keyboard app, kind of like when people hook up PS3 remotes or wii motes to their phones. Here's a link to an app I just quickly searched up as an example. I can't personally vouch for it though.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.mybesttools.btkbservice&feature=search_result
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Alright.. I'm giving it a quick try right now. Had thought I tried that app, but I tried a ton w/o any success., so I'll try again.
FWIW, this is one of the most important features for me at this point, so I'll do any ROM the INC2 can handle if it means making this work.
Sleep
Tried it.. and pretty much every decent looking app I could find in the app market.
Testing now to see if I can pair my new keyboard to my desktop via bluetooth and if that works. Maybe the keyboard is actually dysfunctional?
sleepraider said:
Tried it.. and pretty much every decent looking app I could find in the app market.
Testing now to see if I can pair my new keyboard to my desktop via bluetooth and if that works. Maybe the keyboard is actually dysfunctional?
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I'm back and I wanted to supply more info. I connected the bt keyboard I just bought with my desktop.. it works great on there.
I connected my desktop BT keyboard to my phone-- same prob; it pairs, never connects. Looking much more like a phone/software issue IMO.
Wondering if this is the phone (shouldnt be, right?) or if this is my ROM. If its the ROM, any ROM that might work? Any solution....at all?
sleepraider said:
I'm back and I wanted to supply more info. I connected the bt keyboard I just bought with my desktop.. it works great on there.
I connected my desktop BT keyboard to my phone-- same prob; it pairs, never connects. Looking much more like a phone/software issue IMO.
Wondering if this is the phone (shouldnt be, right?) or if this is my ROM. If its the ROM, any ROM that might work? Any solution....at all?
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The only way you're going to know if it has any possibility with working is if you can pair it on the stock official (or close to official, ie...andybones stock) software. If it doesn't work there, it's highly unlikely that it will work on any rom. If it does, then you'll probably have to just try each rom one at a time. I don't think that's a highly sought after feature for other people though, so it's unlikely much development has been put into it.
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The only way you're going to know if it has any possibility with working is if you can pair it on the stock official (or close to official, ie...andybones stock) software. If it doesn't work there, it's highly unlikely that it will work on any rom. If it does, then you'll probably have to just try each rom one at a time. I don't think that's a highly sought after feature for other people though, so it's unlikely much development has been put into it.
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Sadly, I think this is true and I just need to find a different solution. I'm a grad student and where I work blocks my gmail, which was the main reason I wanted the keyboard, so I could type well formed responses while at work when not busy, and not have to wait to do all my "student work" when I get home from work. I guess I'll likely end up finding another solution. Perhaps I can use my netbook with my phone and get a wifi hotspot going to be able to answer emails? I guess I need to toy a bit more.
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sleepraider said:
Sadly, I think this is true and I just need to find a different solution. I'm a grad student and where I work blocks my gmail, which was the main reason I wanted the keyboard, so I could type well formed responses while at work when not busy, and not have to wait to do all my "student work" when I get home from work. I guess I'll likely end up finding another solution. Perhaps I can use my netbook with my phone and get a wifi hotspot going to be able to answer emails? I guess I need to toy a bit more.
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It sounds like you are opposed to on-screen keyboards, but have you tried any custom ones? I can type very quickly with swiftkey...
gtdtm said:
It sounds like you are opposed to on-screen keyboards, but have you tried any custom ones? I can type very quickly with swiftkey...
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I've tried all of them.. there's nothing wrong with them.. I just dont like them. I'm an excellent typist with a typical keyboard, but I admit I just suck with touchscreen keyboards...
No worries, I just played around a bit and was able to easily set up my netbook to use for gmail while I use my phone as a hotspot. If anyone has a good app recommendation that will allow me to track how much data that actually uses, I'd love that. Seems like a much easier request than the BT keyboard request.
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I've tried all of them.. there's nothing wrong with them.. I just dont like them. I'm an excellent typist with a typical keyboard, but I admit I just suck with touchscreen keyboards...
No worries, I just played around a bit and was able to easily set up my netbook to use for gmail while I use my phone as a hotspot. If anyone has a good app recommendation that will allow me to track how much data that actually uses, I'd love that. Seems like a much easier request than the BT keyboard request.
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Now I'm thinking about it.. what if I installed Ubuntu.. which would likely have the drivers for bluetooth. I'm a very experienced linux user and have 5+ years of ubuntu experience. Perhaps using ubuntu on my phone is the workaround I've been looking for! Do we know if you can use USB keyboards (I'd expect this to be true) when you install ubuntu alongside? Anyone done it well on a DINC2?
Don't know if you found a solution yet but i found this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30727046
And this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22648870
And its a kernel function not a ROM , its a hid Bluetooth driver , hope it helps
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I tried using the quickremote app and only see the option to add a TV and Cable Box with limited options. Looking on the G2 forums for the QuickRemote I see people talking about adding their Xbox, receiver, etc and also mention a custom option for having it learn devices not built in. Am I missing something or are we dealing with an limited version of the app?
Maybe I'll have to try an alternate IR app. Would really like something that can do activities similar to the Harmony remotes. I still use my Harmony One with a broken screen.
True, true. Looks like the G Pad got something like a light version of the G2's QuickRemote. I was searching for 3rd party IR remote controls but haven't find anything.
I used an ir remote app on my Samsung tab 3. But it doesn't work on the G PAD. And here is why:
" Unfortunately our app doesn't work on the*G PAD*(or any other*LG*device), because*LG's IR Blaster access is locked and encrypted and we haven't been able until this point to crack that encryption. The only way to access the blaster is through*LG's sdk, which doesn't allow the use of our own database, but instead only being given access to devices already configured through QuickRemote."
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That sucks, thanks for the info. Hopefully they will update the app or allow 3rd parties to access the IR.
Anyone try the Quick Remote app from the G2?
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Anyone try the Quick Remote app from the G2?
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I tried to install QuickRemote.apk from G2 (moved apk and odex in system / app and installed the necessary rights), the application starts, but the functionality remains the same (
I think I might just bite the bullet and get one of these.
logitech.com/en-us/product/harmony-ultimate-hub?crid=60
It will have way more functionality than the QuickRemote app will ever have and also work with my wife's Nexus 10 and both our smartphones.
Also nice that it doesn't have to be in IR line of sight view for it to work.
Bought this pad for almost only one reason, to have it as a remote in my cinema.
But can only say that I fell for it to hard to change to a samsung tab instead.
As you already have implemented the remote functions of this device are worse than bad at the moment. But I emailed the folks of the TouchSquid app a while back. By the looks of it is the best suited remote app for me.
They said that when LG finally will release their codes, the TouchSquid app will be able to handle the G Pad. :highfive:
Hope it wont take to long for LG to release it though....
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Bought this pad for almost only one reason, to have it as a remote in my cinema.
But can only say that I fell for it to hard to change to a samsung tab instead.
As you already have implemented the remote functions of this device are worse than bad at the moment. But I emailed the folks of the TouchSquid app a while back. By the looks of it is the best suited remote app for me.
They said that when LG finally will release their codes, the TouchSquid app will be able to handle the G Pad. :highfive:
Hope it wont take to long for LG to release it though....
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Just curious, but what's the advantage of using QRemote over, say, a Logitech Harmony remote?
woody1 said:
Just curious, but what's the advantage of using QRemote over, say, a Logitech Harmony remote?
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At the moment I got a Harmony 1100, the worst thing with the remote is that it is so slow. Then there are other minor problems.
The G Pad will also be a universal remote for the whole home. Heat, light, surveillance, curtains and so on. So I want "one to rule it all" -kinda way remote for the house.
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The G Pad will also be a universal remote for the whole home. Heat, light, surveillance, curtains and so on. So I want "one to rule it all" -kinda way remote for the house.
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Forget it, dude, QR won't work like that. For all that stuff (heat, light etc.) you will need a complete control system connected to wifi and an app for that, or stuff something like that. QR's app and IR won't make it...
SleepingBear said:
At the moment I got a Harmony 1100, the worst thing with the remote is that it is so slow. Then there are other minor problems.
The G Pad will also be a universal remote for the whole home. Heat, light, surveillance, curtains and so on. So I want "one to rule it all" -kinda way remote for the house.
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The G Pad uses IR to control TVs, etc. Do all of your other devices also respond to IR? Also, IR requires you to be in the same room, so it's not very well suited to the kind of whole home automation you're talking about. With IR, you would have to walk around with the device to point it at the things you want to control. A system using radio would make more sense.
As far as the functions QRemote is designed to do, i.e., IR control of TV's, etc., a regular wand-style Harmony remote is a lot cheaper and does a good job.
I know it won't work with the IR, never said it either. Going to use a network based station and controll it through wifi.
It may be cheaper with a harmony remote (specially when I already got one) but where's the fun in that.
Have you tried this app Smart IR Remote? If so, does it work well?
Thanks in advance
Smart IR
altusan said:
Have you tried this app Smart IR Remote? If so, does it work well?
Thanks in advance
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I have that app on my HTC One and love it. I thought I could use it on the GPE edition but it will not work. Here is what the developer told me "Unfortunately our app doesn't work on the GPad (or any other LG device), because LG's IR Blaster access is locked and encrypted and we haven't been able until this point to crack that encryption. The only way to access the blaster is through LG's sdk, which doesn't allow the use of our own database, but instead only being given access to devices already configured through QuickRemote."
Less feature packed Quick Remote than is on LG G2(on G Pad, no "off brand" televisions for selection and only TV & settop boxes can be programmed, whereas LG G2 you can do numererous types of devices from air conditioners to Blu Ray players...
Lucien2 said:
Less feature packed Quick Remote than is on LG G2(on G Pad, no "off brand" televisions for selection and only TV & settop boxes can be programmed, whereas LG G2 you can do numererous types of devices from air conditioners to Blu Ray players...
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Yes, this was a big disappointment for me.
I have a Samsung 40" TV and a couple of IR controlled fans in my apartment and I would have loved to be ablet to controll all of them instead of just the TV...
IR blasters are becoming very common (which is a very good thing for me) among both smartphones and tablets but unfortunately very few of them can be fully taken advantage of...
I don't care much about pre-sets, all I want is a "learn function" (i.e. an IR receiver/sensor and not just a blaster, plus of course the SW to manage it).
Defiantly disappointing that the quick remote is so limited on the g pad vs the g2 weird that LG would gimp it like that hopefully they will upgrade this app to be like the phone version in functionality.
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SleepingBear said:
Bought this pad for almost only one reason, to have it as a remote in my cinema.
But can only say that I fell for it to hard to change to a samsung tab instead.
As you already have implemented the remote functions of this device are worse than bad at the moment. But I emailed the folks of the TouchSquid app a while back. By the looks of it is the best suited remote app for me.
They said that when LG finally will release their codes, the TouchSquid app will be able to handle the G Pad. :highfive:
Hope it wont take to long for LG to release it though....
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Any word from touch squid?
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Just bought it...
SleepingBear said:
Bought this pad for almost only one reason, to have it as a remote in my cinema.
But can only say that I fell for it to hard to change to a samsung tab instead.
As you already have implemented the remote functions of this device are worse than bad at the moment. But I emailed the folks of the TouchSquid app a while back. By the looks of it is the best suited remote app for me.
They said that when LG finally will release their codes, the TouchSquid app will be able to handle the G Pad. :highfive:
Hope it wont take to long for LG to release it though....
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I just bought the G Pad for the same reason, to use it to control my TV and cable box, and this sucks!!!!! the QuickRemote doesnt have my TV and Cable box, and can't use 3rd party app to use the IR blaster, has anyone found a solution? if not I'm returning this....
Hey All:
I'm on the T800, unrooted stock (I had promised my work sysadmin that I wouldn't root). I'm also using ShareKM through USB on my work PC to use my mouse and keyboard on the tablet (makes a great timeclock). Of course, this means living with the limitations of ShareKM and I expect its impending death.
I'd love to use SideSync for this feature, but Sidesync doesn't share mouse or keyboard to tablets (just to phones). Has anyone had luck persuading SideSync on the GTS to act as a phone rather than a tablet? I was thinking either through modifying build.prop to look like a GS5, using SecureSettings and Tasker, or even the Per App Settings through Xposed. All of these would require me to root, so I'd rather know that a solution works before actually rooting. Then... well I'll just not show the local tech the bootscreen and we'll be all good .
Any ideas? Has anyone tested any of these ways?
--Databoy2k
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Hey All:
I'm on the T800, unrooted stock (I had promised my work sysadmin that I wouldn't root). I'm also using ShareKM through USB on my work PC to use my mouse and keyboard on the tablet (makes a great timeclock). Of course, this means living with the limitations of ShareKM and I expect its impending death.
I'd love to use SideSync for this feature, but Sidesync doesn't share mouse or keyboard to tablets (just to phones). Has anyone had luck persuading SideSync on the GTS to act as a phone rather than a tablet? I was thinking either through modifying build.prop to look like a GS5, using SecureSettings and Tasker, or even the Per App Settings through Xposed. All of these would require me to root, so I'd rather know that a solution works before actually rooting. Then... well I'll just not show the local tech the bootscreen and we'll be all good .
Any ideas? Has anyone tested any of these ways?
--Databoy2k
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Really just bumping this up. Is anyone with a rooted Tab S willing to try any of these ideas if we don't have someone who already knows?
--Databoy2k
databoy2k said:
Really just bumping this up. Is anyone with a rooted Tab S willing to try any of these ideas if we don't have someone who already knows?
--Databoy2k
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It doesn't look like Per App settings can do this. I'm still hesitant to root my tablet, but with the new Lollipop update ShareKM has officially died. I'd really appreciate if anyone else has any experience or would be willing to guinea pig on this.
--Databoy2k
databoy2k said:
It doesn't look like Per App settings can do this. I'm still hesitant to root my tablet, but with the new Lollipop update ShareKM has officially died. I'd really appreciate if anyone else has any experience or would be willing to guinea pig on this.
--Databoy2k
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I'm guessing no one attempted this at all
Tikker G said:
I'm guessing no one attempted this at all
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No, nobody did. But I do now have a rooted tablet using the Knox 0x0 root (...sshhhhh) so I might try a couple of the ideas that came up. If you're interested, I can post the results here.
So after some headache, I can confirm that I have a working App Settings Xposed Module on my Tab S... but changing the Screen (dp) setting as sometimes work doesn't actually convince SideSync that it's on a phone rather than a tablet. I'm even running an apk that I TiBu'ed over from my Galaxy S5, so I can confirm that the sidesync apk isn't what decides the platform either.
I still haven't touched my build.prop; that might be part of the equation. It'd be nice to have an xposed module that corrects this on a per-app basis, but it doesn't seem to exist.
So I reach out again to the experts - any other ideas?
Has anyone tried to install Andromium OS yet?
It is now available on the playstore now
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.andromium.os
can't test it myself right now, but interested in your experiences.
App requires 4.4.2 As Said in discription. So it might not work.
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App requires 4.4.2 As Said in discription. So it might not work.
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buberlo said:
Has anyone tried to install Andromium OS yet?
It is now available on the playstore now
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.andromium.os
can't test it myself right now, but interested in your experiences.
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And I don't think our processor meets the minimum specs. Too bad. I'd love to try it.
Edit--I tried it. Side loaded it but it wouldn't show up under apps. So I pushed it to sdcard but it said parsing error (of some sort)
Only reason I tried is because for fun i installed it on my KFHD7 running CM 11 and it installed and ran relatively well. So I don't think it's the hardware that's the problem for aftv. This is a great idea btw. I only just heard about it in this thread.
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And I don't think our processor meets the minimum specs. Too bad. I'd love to try it.
Edit--I tried it. Side loaded it but it wouldn't show up under apps. So I pushed it to sdcard but it said parsing error (of some sort)
Only reason I tried is because for fun i installed it on my KFHD7 running CM 11 and it installed and ran relatively well. So I don't think it's the hardware that's the problem for aftv. This is a great idea btw. I only just heard about it in this thread.
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I played with it briefly this morning on my Galaxy Note 3. It doesn't seem like something worth using on the FTV, but for a tablet being used with a keyboard and mouse, it's very promising as a laptop alternative.
xm41907 said:
I played with it briefly this morning on my Galaxy Note 3. It doesn't seem like something worth using on the FTV, but for a tablet being used with a keyboard and mouse, it's very promising as a laptop alternative.
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I was thinking it would be a good option since the mouse cursor was broken with the last aftv update. I assume with andromium you'd have a web browser that's easier to use plus I like the way it can be easily launched/shutdown in the status bar (at least on phones and tablets), so those that use launchers might like it more. Guess it don't matter. There's little reason for amazon to upgrade aftv but hopefully we'll have a custom ROM in the future.
Their ad used to say you only needed Android 4.2 to use it so maybe you should edit the first post to ask people if they have the old apks from earlier this year, cause older versions may work. Just a couple months ago it was working wth android 4.2. So if anyone has version 0.1.3 or older they should post the APK here. Versions 0.1.4 and 0.1.5 do not work, but older versions probably do since they only required Android 4.2. I did a google search so I know there was versions numbered 0.1.1, 0.1.2 and 0.1.3, but could not find the apk files.
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I was thinking it would be a good option since the mouse cursor was broken with the last aftv update. I assume with andromium you'd have a web browser that's easier to use plus I like the way it can be easily launched/shutdown in the status bar (at least on phones and tablets), so those that use launchers might like it more. Guess it don't matter. There's little reason for amazon to upgrade aftv but hopefully we'll have a custom ROM in the future.
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If the mouse cursor is broken, wouldn't that make this even less usable? There is no native mouse cursor for Andronium so if the system cursor isn't visible, then it would be very difficult to control It does have a browser, and certain apps will work natively with it, but not many yet, and those that are supported do not fit inside a window. Only the Andronium specific apps will be windowed. Of the several hundred apps on my phone, only seven were natively supported. The others are hit or miss. . Since the FTV doesn't have a status bar, then that functionality would be lost on the FTV, as far as turning on and off Andronium. This app has lots of promise, but don't think it's a good fit.
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If the mouse cursor is broken, wouldn't that make this even less usable? There is no native mouse cursor for Andronium so if the system cursor isn't visible, then it would be very difficult to control It does have a browser, and certain apps will work natively with it, but not many yet, and those that are supported do not fit inside a window. Only the Andronium specific apps will be windowed. Of the several hundred apps on my phone, only seven were natively supported. The others are hit or miss. . Since the FTV doesn't have a status bar, then that functionality would be lost on the FTV, as far as turning on and off Andronium. This app has lots of promise, but don't think it's a good fit.
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You obviously looked into it more than me. What I saw was a clean desktop interface that I naturally assumed would run most applicable android apps. And thinking more...yea. Since the most cursor is now invisible in most apps, it most likely wouldn't show up in andromium either. Lots of potential there, but if its purpose is to be a PC alternative it has a ways to go.
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You obviously looked into it more than me. What I saw was a clean desktop interface that I naturally assumed would run most applicable android apps. And thinking more...yea. Since the most cursor is now invisible in most apps, it most likely wouldn't show up in andromium either. Lots of potential there, but if its purpose is to be a PC alternative it has a ways to go.
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I was interested in it awhile back for my tablet for work trips. Much easier to bring along a bt keyboard and mouse to go with my tablet than both.
I'm a little late to the game here and missed rooting at 5.2.1.0, so now I seem stuck.
The last post from rbox on a recovery installer was 4th June 2016, and I couldn't find anything on that since, or any kind of downgrader.
Anyone have any news I've missed, or insider info?
What I really need is to mount CIF shares off my Synology for playing ROMs of various types. Any specific solution for that I may have missed?
Thanks bunches! :good:
MrPeach
MrPeach said:
I'm a little late to the game here and missed rooting at 5.2.1.0, so now I seem stuck.
The last post from rbox on a recovery installer was 4th June 2016, and I couldn't find anything on that since, or any kind of downgrader.
Anyone have any news I've missed, or insider info?
What I really need is to mount CIF shares off my Synology for playing ROMs of various types. Any specific solution for that I may have missed?
Thanks bunches! :good:
MrPeach
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In the same boat myself, doesnt seem to be any developmennts yet.
With all do respect as someone who has managed to root his AFTV at unbox time. What exactly IS the benefit of rooting the AFTV2? And, no this is not a rhetorical question.
One of the big hopes I've had about rooting the AFTV2 was to get Google PlayStore, and Gapps working. Well if the ever had, it seems that I too may have missed that Boat. As they do NOT seem to work under 5.2.1.1.
The only other reason why I might have wanted Root, pairing a Sixaxis Dualshock 3 Controller with my AFTV2. 'Cause I'm too cheep for an Amazon Controller. Doesn't work either, and in fact will cause the AFTV2 to crash, and reboot itself.
As for AdAway, (My prime motivation for rooting anything!), well I've yet to find a use for it. It doesn't block anything in the Fire Launcher. Not that I think it should anyway. But nothing I've ran into yet even has any in-app advertising.
Side loading Kodi never really required root, and has otherwise worked fine.
IMHO root on the AFTV2 is a tad overrated, for all you can do with it, or actually what you still can't do with it.
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With all do respect as someone who has managed to root his AFTV at unbox time. What exactly IS the benefit of rooting the AFTV2? And, no this is not a rhetorical question.
One of the big hopes I've had about rooting the AFTV2 was to get Google PlayStore, and Gapps working. Well if the ever had, it seems that I too may have missed that Boat. As they do NOT seem to work under 5.2.1.1.
The only other reason why I might have wanted Root, pairing a Sixaxis Dualshock 3 Controller with my AFTV2. 'Cause I'm too cheep for an Amazon Controller. Doesn't work either, and in fact will cause the AFTV2 to crash, and reboot itself.
As for AdAway, (My prime motivation for rooting anything!), well I've yet to find a use for it. It doesn't block anything in the Fire Launcher. Not that I think it should anyway. But nothing I've ran into yet even has any in-app advertising.
Side loading Kodi never really required root, and has otherwise worked fine.
IMHO root on the AFTV2 is a tad overrated, for all you can do with it, or actually what you still can't do with it.
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Well as noted, what I care about is simply mounting a network share. While somewhat interesting, your comment adds nothing to this particular thread.
Ichijoe said:
With all do respect as someone who has managed to root his AFTV at unbox time. What exactly IS the benefit of rooting the AFTV2? And, no this is not a rhetorical question.
One of the big hopes I've had about rooting the AFTV2 was to get Google PlayStore, and Gapps working. Well if the ever had, it seems that I too may have missed that Boat. As they do NOT seem to work under 5.2.1.1.
The only other reason why I might have wanted Root, pairing a Sixaxis Dualshock 3 Controller with my AFTV2. 'Cause I'm too cheep for an Amazon Controller. Doesn't work either, and in fact will cause the AFTV2 to crash, and reboot itself.
As for AdAway, (My prime motivation for rooting anything!), well I've yet to find a use for it. It doesn't block anything in the Fire Launcher. Not that I think it should anyway. But nothing I've ran into yet even has any in-app advertising.
Side loading Kodi never really required root, and has otherwise worked fine.
IMHO root on the AFTV2 is a tad overrated, for all you can do with it, or actually what you still can't do with it.
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I want to be able to add a usb Ethernet adapter. The fire stick 2 allows usb devices to be added natively. Ive contacted the Fire tv support team about a possible update to allow fire stick first gen to allow this without root, they said they would take it under consideration so probably no.
@MrPeach
Surly you could add a network share from inside Kodi or? I kinda fail to see the point of it outside of Kodi otherwise.
@tylercheribini
Well I could imagine why some people might want to have two Ethernet Ports. I find little use for mine while on 802.11ac. But at least this is concept I can work with.
Ichijoe said:
@MrPeach
Surly you could add a network share from inside Kodi or? I kinda fail to see the point of it outside of Kodi otherwise.
@tylercheribini
Well I could imagine why some people might want to have two Ethernet Ports. I find little use for mine while on 802.11ac. But at least this is concept I can work with.
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The Fire Stick has no ethernet port, it must be rooted in order to add one.
Sorry, missed that bit. Of course it (Firestick), doesn't.
Any news? Had an update mysteriously occur, moving it up to the latest firetv update. For some time, have been stuck without a solution. For list of what doesn't work at this date, neither the latest kingo root on pc with an a to a cable or the kingroot app work. Hoping sometime soon one of the remaining vulnerabilities is taken advantage of soon.
I've locked down my network in the meantime. Would recommend anybody that does care about root in the same boat as me do the same until a solution is found..
Sound advice... And BTW I do care about root. I just question the point of it on this Device. Which to my chagrin includes a bit more then the AFTV2... lol!
And, I concede their use cases aren't mine. And, at the moment the things I'd like to do on my AFTV2, which would otherwise require root as well. (i.e. PlayStore, and Dualshock 3 Support) have not brought me much joy even with root. So though I probably could have been less of a **** about it. I was generally interested in why others were so keen to root it. And I got my answer.
The only good news is that it's not a done deal with the FireOS, and eventuality another exploit shall be found, but you'll just have to hang on till then. Yeah sucks I know.
Lol. Yes it does suck.
I probably shouldn't have responded in that way either. It's hard to tell someone's intent based on a few lines in a thread. Didnt mean to come off bh.
Root has been good, was nice to be able to autostart the Kodi/spmc app and for me, using droidmote. that's a really great mouse keyboard app along with a ssh server and BusyBox... But then again, since I updated to the latest rooted ROM(5.2.1.1) in my other box, I've lost the autostart and some of the other bonuses. As much as I hate to do it, will have to start troubleshooting options maybe downgrade.
Til there's an option....
The Dirty Cow linux exploit was recently released (last week). This should allow root on the newer firmware versions (5.2.1.1, etc). Since it was just released last week people are working on it. This thread discusses the progress http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/security/dirty-cow-t3484879
and here is a post of someone who claims to have it working
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=69299542&postcount=39
I am working on getting this going on my AFTV2 with version 5.2.1.0.
clarke.hackworth said:
The Dirty Cow linux exploit was recently released (last week). This should allow root on the newer firmware versions (5.2.1.1, etc). Since it was just released last week people are working on it. This thread discusses the progress http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/security/dirty-cow-t3484879
and here is a post of someone who claims to have it working
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=69299542&postcount=39
I am working on getting this going on my AFTV2 with version 5.2.1.0.
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Cool, looks promising, thanks.
I know that Android, is kind of a fork of Linux. But, isn't that kinda the point? Are we even sure that this 'ploit affects Android?
I'm in the same boat as you guys, i also wait for a 5.2.1.1 root
In my case i want to install the root-version of the moonlight streaming app which has native mouse support so i can finally play mouse/keyboard games on my home cinema (The non-root version is kinda buggy... scaling-problems, stuttering, no off-screen-movment, and so on..)
Ichijoe said:
With all do respect as someone who has managed to root his AFTV at unbox time. What exactly IS the benefit of rooting the AFTV2? And, no this is not a rhetorical question.
One of the big hopes I've had about rooting the AFTV2 was to get Google PlayStore, and Gapps working. Well if the ever had, it seems that I too may have missed that Boat. As they do NOT seem to work under 5.2.1.1.
The only other reason why I might have wanted Root, pairing a Sixaxis Dualshock 3 Controller with my AFTV2. 'Cause I'm too cheep for an Amazon Controller. Doesn't work either, and in fact will cause the AFTV2 to crash, and reboot itself.
As for AdAway, (My prime motivation for rooting anything!), well I've yet to find a use for it. It doesn't block anything in the Fire Launcher. Not that I think it should anyway. But nothing I've ran into yet even has any in-app advertising.
Side loading Kodi never really required root, and has otherwise worked fine.
IMHO root on the AFTV2 is a tad overrated, for all you can do with it, or actually what you still can't do with it.
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The reason I am looking for root is to be able to run the firestick on a VPN, which requires root.
Ichijoe said:
I know that Android, is kind of a fork of Linux. But, isn't that kinda the point? Are we even sure that this 'ploit affects Android?
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Yes the exploit effects Android.
FYI, the issue is a vulnerability in how the Linux kernel handles memory / files. Android is just a specific set of applications running on Linux, so it is exploitable. I have used the exploit to modify files in /system and /etc on my FireTV running 5.2.1.1.
Starting with FireTV 5.2.1.0 SELinux is enabled which is an extra layer of protection. It is good from a security stand point -- it helps protects your device from malicious apps, etc. However in our case the "attacker" is the owner of the device ... us. People are working on bypassing SELinux protections, and making progress.
See this blog for some really technical info on the current status: https://v-e-o.blogspot.com/2016/10/way-to-android-init-with-cve-2016-5195.html
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The reason I am looking for root is to be able to run the firestick on a VPN, which requires root.
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Forgive my ignorance, but what is vpn used for on the ftv aside from accessing content from different countries like Netflix and to possibly make it safer for one to stream certain content?
Well IIRC... One could set up a VPN, to log back into one Network (e.g. Network Storage), from an outside source (i.e. a Hotel Room), to push, and pull Files p, at will. But I think you managed to cover most of the "uses" of a VPN already.
Emulator ROMs
Ichijoe said:
@MrPeach
Surly you could add a network share from inside Kodi or? I kinda fail to see the point of it outside of Kodi otherwise.
@tylercheribini
Well I could imagine why some people might want to have two Ethernet Ports. I find little use for mine while on 802.11ac. But at least this is concept I can work with.
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As I implied in my original post - emulators generally do not support accessing network shares (where my extensive ROM collection is) directly. This leaves copying ROMs to the Fire TV itself to use them or copying my ROM collection to an external USB drive, neither option of which I find acceptable.
I want to access my extensive ROM collection directly via a SMB mapped folder on my Synology NAS, which research has informed me is only possible on a rooted device.
This isn't about Kodi, an extra ethernet port or any of the other stuff other people have mentioned in this thread.