[Q] Moto 360 setup without phone - Moto 360

Hey in around a month I will get my moto 360. I have an iPhone now and will get my android phone in 6 months. I am ok with only seeing time and heart rate for now, But i dont know if I can set the watch up to the clock screen. Can I skip the pair to android wear step? Thanks for answers.
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So I've been researching for a while on which watch to get that can do fitness stuff as well as be a smart watch. I decided to get the moto 360 yesterday because it was only 150$ and there was good reviews about it.
I got it home and started the setup, which was like pulling teeth! Absolutely a pain in the [language removed], half the stuff want working, it keep resetting and unconnecting, it went through 2 updates, and finally it was done, I started messing with it around 5, and by the time I looked it was midnight! So I charged it all night, and woke up about 8, 100% battery, through it on to go do my morning run, and realized it won't work with my note 4 s health, or my fitness pal which are the 2 I use.... Ughhh so I downloaded another fitness app, and said OK Google start a run... Nothing! Instead had to pull it out and open fit, and the other health app run something... I forgot what it was... During my run tried to check my heart rate... Doesn't work! Try to check my mph... Doesn't work.... Say OK Google send a text... Offline... Basically I wasted my entire workout messing with it and it wasn't even fun! So I get to work at noon... And look at my battery, 7%! R u serious! It dies like 5 minutes later! So 3 hrs of unless use and now I have a paperweight on my wrist! I hate it! Any recommendations or other options would be greatly appreciated..... Maybe I should get gear s? Apple watch? Urbane? Sw3? Please help.... I'd like a smart watch and fitness all in one that at least functions.... Sorry for venting! I've never been so disappointed and frustrated! Thanks! I'm also interested in facer, I downloaded it but there's only a few face watches.... I really want to like this watch!
I've had my 360 since last October and love it, I use Strava and cycle 40 mins+ a day then an additional 1 hour+ running a few times a week. I find the battery to last a whole day just fine but if I've been messing with it loads and the battery is looking low I stick it on the charger for 20 mins or so when I get home and that gives it more than enough for a run and then to see it through till bed time.
As for the "offline" I usually get this if I'm out the front of my house trying to start a run and the Phone and watch are struggling with connecting to the WiFi. Once I'm clear of the Wifi (on GMS), or have a good WiFi (close to the house) it's fine.
I bought the watch because I love gadgets, but it's now my everyday watch and love it. I'd stick with it for at least a week or so before you sack it off.
Scrapmanson said:
So I've been researching for a while on which watch to get that can do fitness stuff as well as be a smart watch. I decided to get the moto 360 yesterday because it was only 150$ and there was good reviews about it.
I got it home and started the setup, which was like pulling teeth! Absolutely a pain in the [language removed], half the stuff want working, it keep resetting and unconnecting, it went through 2 updates, and finally it was done, I started messing with it around 5, and by the time I looked it was midnight! So I charged it all night, and woke up about 8, 100% battery, through it on to go do my morning run, and realized it won't work with my note 4 s health, or my fitness pal which are the 2 I use.... Ughhh so I downloaded another fitness app, and said OK Google start a run... Nothing! Instead had to pull it out and open fit, and the other health app run something... I forgot what it was... During my run tried to check my heart rate... Doesn't work! Try to check my mph... Doesn't work.... Say OK Google send a text... Offline... Basically I wasted my entire workout messing with it and it wasn't even fun! So I get to work at noon... And look at my battery, 7%! R u serious! It dies like 5 minutes later! So 3 hrs of unless use and now I have a paperweight on my wrist! I hate it! Any recommendations or other options would be greatly appreciated..... Maybe I should get gear s? Apple watch? Urbane? Sw3? Please help.... I'd like a smart watch and fitness all in one that at least functions.... Sorry for venting! I've never been so disappointed and frustrated! Thanks! I'm also interested in facer, I downloaded it but there's only a few face watches.... I really want to like this watch!
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I just got one two days ago too. I was getting terrible battery life my first 24 hours. Even when charging it would lose battery. When I got it I set it up I then realized it wasn't on the latest Wear version so I upgraded to the latest version. I decided maybe upgrading after setup was causing some of the terrible battery life so I did a factory reset, set it back up, and it's working much better.
As for running I installed map my run which is supposed to work pretty well with android wear. I haven't tried it yet as I just ran with only the step counter this morning. I also wanted something to sync my steps into myfitnesspal. After some research I read the Jawbone Up app works with Android Wear and will sync to MFP. Problem is the latest version from three days ago broke it with Wear (based on the comments and my experience). So I found this version http://www.1mobile.com/up-by-jawbone-2526126.html which is a little old but seems to work.
Hope some of this helps...
Scrapmanson said:
So I've been researching for a while on which watch to get that can do fitness stuff as well as be a smart watch. I decided to get the moto 360 yesterday because it was only 150$ and there was good reviews about it.
I got it home and started the setup, which was like pulling teeth! Absolutely a pain in the [language removed], half the stuff want working, it keep resetting and unconnecting, it went through 2 updates, and finally it was done, I started messing with it around 5, and by the time I looked it was midnight! So I charged it all night, and woke up about 8, 100% battery, through it on to go do my morning run, and realized it won't work with my note 4 s health, or my fitness pal which are the 2 I use.... Ughhh so I downloaded another fitness app, and said OK Google start a run... Nothing! Instead had to pull it out and open fit, and the other health app run something... I forgot what it was... During my run tried to check my heart rate... Doesn't work! Try to check my mph... Doesn't work.... Say OK Google send a text... Offline... Basically I wasted my entire workout messing with it and it wasn't even fun! So I get to work at noon... And look at my battery, 7%! R u serious! It dies like 5 minutes later! So 3 hrs of unless use and now I have a paperweight on my wrist! I hate it! Any recommendations or other options would be greatly appreciated..... Maybe I should get gear s? Apple watch? Urbane? Sw3? Please help.... I'd like a smart watch and fitness all in one that at least functions.... Sorry for venting! I've never been so disappointed and frustrated! Thanks! I'm also interested in facer, I downloaded it but there's only a few face watches.... I really want to like this watch!
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Battery life will suck when you first start, syncing apps and so on. Give it a couple days. I use UP! for step tracking and I use Run Keeper for my runs. One thing I have noticed is that GPS being on for Run Keeper does hurt the battery (instead of 3%-4% an hour about 6% to 8%). As for the heart rate I have found that trying to take it on demand while I am sweating fails about 80% of the time. I had an app on for awhile that would check my heart rate like every 15 min and then store the average over the hour and that seemed to work, however the battery drain was not worth the data I was getting.

should I STILL get a 360 this late in the game?

I'm eventually going to make the plunge in getting a smartwatch, and always liked the 360, but with the 360 2 so close to being announced, is it even worth getting the 360 now?
I love modding and stretching the limits of a device. When the 360 came out, i wanted it, but couldn't afford it. Recently I saw someone running youtube videos on the 360 and it sold me. Then i noticed the huge price drop and it started really pushing me toward a purchase.
What are the current limits of the device? I know running youtube on a watch is considered impracticable by most people (small screen, batt life), but it's right up my alley. Can you remote a pc or phone with the 360? I'm always streaming youtube to listen to music in my car, screen off, and I never know what i want to listen to next. I love the freedom of being able to pull up any track that strikes me in the moment, without having to store thousands and thousands of mp3s on a device. If video running directly on the watch isnt very efficient, can the watch remote the phone to change youtube videos without interacting with the phone?
Also, if you were me, would you get the 360?
wait for the 360 2?
or is there another device out there that is even more capable of outside-of-the-box kind of applications??
Any input is greatly appreciated. Thanks!!!
Hi there!
I recommend reading this thread, it's about a similar topic and it should at least answer some of your questions: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-360/help/wait-model-buy-t3146347
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Hi there!
I recommend reading this thread, it's about a similar topic and it should at least answer some of your questions: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-360/help/wait-model-buy-t3146347
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I'll probably pull the trigger at this price point just to get in.. then resell once the 2 comes out..
any differences between the best buy, google store, and amazon versions of the watch?
I know sometimes phones will have different hardware specs with different vendors
also, the free 'youtube app' that allows you to watch youtube on the watch itself also claims to be able to google cast the video to another device, ie: chromecast tv. Is it also capable of sending the video to a phone? My theory is, I can pull up the app on the watch, say what i want to listen to with the voice search, and beam it to my phone which is still holstered and wired to my car stereo. Think that would work? Anyone with a moto360 want to try it out?
I was pretty much in the same boat but I made the plunge (arr, matey).
I never had much money to spare for a smartwatch but I knew one day I would get one. I finally bought one last week, not even second hand how I usually buy things, because the price was finally acceptable for me (and a 14-day free return policy at the store was a great way to test the device - I'll probably keep it). I wasn't even considering the potential successor of the Moto 360, two reasons:
1. It would be way too expensive. I'd have to wait another year after its release until the price would finally be right for me.
2. There isn't much to improve with Android Wear smartwatches, as my only disappointment is battery life (though I love how easily and quickly it charges wirelessly to make up for it).
I'd say if you're like me, you don't have much money for a smartwatch, then the Moto 360 is currently still an awesome device. Especially since it received this huge update very recently which enabled Wi-Fi. This device is much more capable than the limited number of apps in the Play Store would suggest. I'll see if I can make any useful apps myself :fingers-crossed:
Hermantje said:
I was pretty much in the same boat but I made the plunge (arr, matey).
I never had much money to spare for a smartwatch but I knew one day I would get one. I finally bought one last week, not even second hand how I usually buy things, because the price was finally acceptable for me (and a 14-day free return policy at the store was a great way to test the device - I'll probably keep it). I wasn't even considering the potential successor of the Moto 360, two reasons:
1. It would be way too expensive. I'd have to wait another year after its release until the price would finally be right for me.
2. There isn't much to improve with Android Wear smartwatches, as my only disappointment is battery life (though I love how easily and quickly it charges wirelessly to make up for it).
I'd say if you're like me, you don't have much money for a smartwatch, then the Moto 360 is currently still an awesome device. Especially since it received this huge update very recently which enabled Wi-Fi. This device is much more capable than the limited number of apps in the Play Store would suggest. I'll see if I can make any useful apps myself :fingers-crossed:
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Agree, there is not much difference between all the available smartwatches besides design and hardware. The software is the same on all of them (almost).
I can't see how people can complain about battery life. It's not a phone or a computer for that matter. The screen should not be on all the time. I normally charge mine before bed, sleep with it and wake up with around 85-90% left and then around 50% left when day is over, 20-30% if ambient screen.
It's a watch and you should only use it to check the clock, notifications and weather (or other features) not play games and such on it. In the first few weeks, mine died after a day use too. The battery began to stabilize + you begin to see it as a watch + notification thing only. I barely look at it all day. Only read the message I get and then decide if I should answer on phone or not.
So the Moto 360 will be almost the same as the Moto 360 V2 besides some new design and maybe some new hardware features, like GPS.
Honestly I can't wait for V2 of the Moto360. Granted, price will be much higher than the current sale, and or permanent retail price of the first... But im excited about losing the "flat tire" look. I just bought my Moto360 about a week ago now, and don't get me wrong, I love everything about it and the flat tire doesn't really bother me at all. Aside from speed improvements, possibly better battery, sharper display, and over all improvement of a V2 ( all assuming those come to pass in the new one) the OG Moto360 is still amazing and does its job, and imo, does it well. I will be passing this one on to my wife when V2 hits the scene anyway so it will have a long life ahead of it.
At the price its set at right now, this is def a great smartwatch to own, especially for someone who has never owned a smartwatch before.
So (even tho I've obviously stated I have already) absolutely I would buy it. (again)?
I think it's still a nice smartwatch. I've owned the Pebble Steel, 360, Zenwatch, and G Watch R, and I've come back to the 360... out of all of them, it was my favourite. It also helped I scored an open-box 23mm SS one for $130 tax in, lol.
I have a pebble time and a motor 360 I also have the first pebble and I take most of the time the old pebble. First battery life is so good last me all week and also water proof. Which the time is too but the pebble feels more durable than the 360 and so on. Also a reminder when you wanna sell the 360 one day you only can sell it to someone with an android phone.
But the 360 is pretty good.
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I was waiting for the Moto 360 2 but after it wasn't announced with the new Moto X and G I finally got bored and decided to purchase one, especially as I'd seen it for a great price £120 ($180). First impressions are I love the watch and it looks really stylish, it actually does more than I thought it would, which is a bonus.
Plus when the Moto 360 2 does get announced I'll sell this on.
Maybe I should have waited another few weeks and I would have seen the Moto 360 2 starting to be teased. Oh well you live and learn, lol.
Zammo76 said:
Maybe I should have waited another few weeks and I would have seen the Moto 360 2 starting to be teased. Oh well you live and learn, lol.
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I waited all summer for the 360 v2 to come out. I waited through MWC, through Google and Motorola events that we thought might be a 360 v2 announcement, and even after all that we still have no release date. The newly "leaked" images of the new Moto 360 v2 are not terribly impressive.
Since Moto has given us ZERO real info on the new version, I decided to get a 360 this week (it's also pretty cheap on Amazon). Today is my first day with it and I like how it looks and functions, but I am disappointed in the vibration strength. I have a Sony Smartwatch 3 and I can easily feel the vibration patterns on it. The 360 has a much weaker vibration motor and I am just going to have to get used to missing some notifications. That being said, the display is MUCH better on the 360 and it looks really good on the wrist.
The new 360 is not at all likely going to be worth the money they will ask for it. We also really have no idea when it will come out. Motorola really screwed up with their launch of the v2. By the time it comes out there will likely be other players out there, and the holiday season is just over 2 months away. I'll enjoy my 360 v1 until then and see what's available in December.
Still love my 360 v1. Looks great on the wrist, but since the infamous Apple Watch has been released I always get questions if its the Apple Watch. Replaced my grey leather band with a mesh metal band and its made the watch look even better. So I would still buy if you can snag a deal from Amazon, eBay etc...
mrhumble1 said:
I waited all summer for the 360 v2 to come out. I waited through MWC, through Google and Motorola events that we thought might be a 360 v2 announcement, and even after all that we still have no release date. The newly "leaked" images of the new Moto 360 v2 are not terribly impressive.
Since Moto has given us ZERO real info on the new version, I decided to get a 360 this week (it's also pretty cheap on Amazon). Today is my first day with it and I like how it looks and functions, but I am disappointed in the vibration strength. I have a Sony Smartwatch 3 and I can easily feel the vibration patterns on it. The 360 has a much weaker vibration motor and I am just going to have to get used to missing some notifications. That being said, the display is MUCH better on the 360 and it looks really good on the wrist.
The new 360 is not at all likely going to be worth the money they will ask for it. We also really have no idea when it will come out. Motorola really screwed up with their launch of the v2. By the time it comes out there will likely be other players out there, and the holiday season is just over 2 months away. I'll enjoy my 360 v1 until then and see what's available in December.
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I just got the 360 last week to try. I'm going to return it after a couple weeks unless things magically get better all the sudden. Coming from the lg g watch the battery on this 360 is terrible in comparison and ui lags more often then I'm used to in the g watch also. If price is a major concern then the og 360 is still good enough if the battery is good enough for your use. It isn't for mine. I don't want to disable everything to make it barely last a day.
The battery on mine was draining pretty fast the first few days of use. Not sure if it was a bedding in issue or it was just me fiddling with it every few minutes. It seems to have stabilized now and I can get through a day and its on around 15-20% when I stick it on charge at 11pm. I have my brightness on 1 and flick to wake up on.
I've just got one and love it. Didn't want to wait for the 360 2 or pay the higher price for it, as it would probably cost a bit more, maybe?
Battery life for me is good. Only had it a few days, but got me through a full day (08:00 - 22:30) with 3% left. That was with a bit of playing and for some of the time ambient mode turned on. I now have ambient mode turned off, flick to wake on and auto brightness on. It was at 59% when I put it on this morning at 08:00. It's now 13:38 and it's on 36%.
I waited for the v2 teasers and immediately went and purchased a v1 360. I am not seeing much in design or spec that make me want to pay more for the v2.
And both have the flat tire!
I already have an LG G Watch R, which I intend to continue using as my daily driver. The v1, will be for business and formal type affairs. It just looks very nice to me.
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And it looks like when you click the Moto Maker button for the 360 on Motorola's site it no longer works. Got in just under the wire!
http://moofi.woot.com/offers/motorola-moto-360-smart-watch-1 $150 for metal band
best buy still has it for $150 if you want it faster thank woot
after going through warranty service with motorola i would say dont ever buy anything from this company.

First impressions

I just bought a 360 1st gen yesterday.
No good 1st impressions at all.
1. After pairing with phone, which needed a watch factory reset, the watch was so HOT that the back burnt fingers. Of course, the stupid plastic back cracked on a side. New&cracked! Fine.
2. Obviously, this is an instrument of Google's " surveillance", and I have an insistent "Ok Google" just in the middle of the beautiful watch face impossible to eliminate. Maybe after rooting?
3 Battery drain reminds me the Ni-Cd era... My favorite watch faces appear to be the most hungry, that's OK.
4 There's no way to set the watch sensitivity to movement, this allows to more batt drain, as, even on "ambient Off", a minimal moving can wake the face.
Re-take my Sony SW 2 and don't know what to do with the ("cracked") Moto.
I think eliminating some unuseful sensors (for me) can improve batt life. But how to do it?
Wow, this is 180 degrees from my experience with the Moto 360. And I too went from a Sony SW2 to the Moto 360. I don't have a heat issue with the watch, so perhaps you have a hardware issue and should return it for replacement.
The OK Google issue is an easy fix... simply saying OK Google at the watch a few times will turn off the constant pop-ups. That issue and fix is a well-reported one here and elsewhere.
Battery life... I get well over a day and a half with normal use. I turn off ambient display and wrist gestures. I usually charge my watch nightly, so charging the watch eery day isn't a big deal to me.
I haven't worn the SW2 since getting the Moto 360, but the looks and interactions with the Moto 360 are so far better than the SW2 that even though I liked the SW2 I haven't felt the urge to put it back on.
This is my first smart watch and the first couple of days I was really disappointed with the battery. Would only go from 8am to around 6 or 7pm. Now a few days later its from 9am until now ( nearly 6pm) on 78% yesterday was a different face but still around the same.
How to change or eliminate wrist gestures?
I don't see nothing nor in watch neither A W app.
Another thing: I think I must update to 5.1.1 to have some functions. And, as I see on this forum, it's a little tricky (not so much for someone with flashing experience...).
But, why this update bug?
It seems to me that A Wear is in the equivalent Eclair-Froyo era, which maybe some of you weren't suffered..
This needs yet a year or more to get optimal results, then we understand that our money fly too easy, like the 500€ that costed the Droid 1.

Should I buy Samasung Galaxy watch?

Hi all,
I have been attracted towards smartwatches since the time they came. However, there are many reasons that I didn't buy any till today, money, technology and android user.
Although, now I am in the position of buying and I am aiming to buy a Samsung Galaxy watch. I have watched many reviews of that watch on youtube from big streamers to small. Also read many threads on the forum about it and it seems that there were issues with the initial firmware but after updates they were solved.
I am looking to buy the BT 46mm version.
Since this is my first SW and it costs a kidney (also I am a student), I had some concerns with it.
1. Does the battery stays for at least 3days (AOD off, BT and WiFi on)?
2. Can I install third party apps on it (getting apks from google wear store and installing on the phone)?
3. Connection with non-Samsung phones (I have OnePlus 5).
Thank you very much.
Have a great day.
This watch is not powered by Android Wear so I highly doubt that you will be able to get apk to install and run. I don't even know if there is a way to sideload apk onto the phone. Getting the watch to pair to your OnePlus should not be a problem. I am still thinking of buying this watch but the lack of available apps is definitely a turn off for me too. I am coming from a Moto 360.
1. Does the battery stays for at least 3days (AOD off, BT and WiFi on)?
Yes. Even more if you do not start training apps. They drain battery like hell
2. Can I install third party apps on it (getting apks from google wear store and installing on the phone)?
No. Watch is on Tizen system
3. Connection with non-Samsung phones (I have OnePlus 5).
This should not be a problem. The original watch mail app will not work for you - it works only with Samsung phones. You can act with mail notifications though.
Take in mind that as I heard Oneplus has some problems with BT connection - but I am not shure about that
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This watch is not powered by Android Wear so I highly doubt that you will be able to get apk to install and run. I don't even know if there is a way to sideload apk onto the phone. Getting the watch to pair to your OnePlus should not be a problem. I am still thinking of buying this watch but the lack of available apps is definitely a turn off for me too. I am coming from a Moto 360.
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Thank you very much the answers it will surely help me in deciding.
I have been a watch collector of high end mechanical watches all my life, and I was always laughing at people with black screen watches on their wrists, until my best friend bought one and started to explain me what he can do with the watch. I bought my Samsung Galaxy watch 4 LTE about 2 weeks ago and I think I only removed it from my wrist to charge it. It is unbelievable how much I became addicted to the practicality of the watch. I am looking at the screen hundreds of times a day, using navigation, reading texts, emails, setting timers, using fitness apps etc. I consider myself a power user, and lowest battery I reached was 26% by the end of the work day. ( watch is on my wrist usually from 8 am to 9 pm ) On weekends, with lighter use I get around 65% by the end of the day. So I still have to charge it every night, but that does not bother me. Included Samsung wireless charger charges them very quickly, I can't tell exactly, but it is fast ( maybe under 1.5 hr? ) My brightness is always set to full 10. ( there is levels from 1 to 10 ) It is true, fitness apps take most of the battery power, and Navigation is power drain, because I keep the screen ON all the time for directions (you can keep it black while driving and it can be turned ON only before the turns )
I would also love to have more apps available, especially apps from Nest and Ring, because I am checking that frequently. The phone my watch is paired to is Note 9. I do recommend, if you can afford it, to buy the LTE version.
dont get one if you are planning to use the HR monitor, it is still useless after 2 updates.

Want to get a new watch. Any opinions? Moto 360 3rd gen, FOSSIL Gen 5 or a Samsung.

I'm moving on from the disaster of my Moto 360 2nd Gen. That watch died in about 3 different ways at the same time. I'm a little cautious to invest in a new one and I'm looking for some opinions. I've been researching my options and I think I've narrowed it down https://9apps.ooo/ to these 3. I loved the look of the Moto 360 2 and will be using it for everyday notifications, workout tracking, music and navigation control and sleep tracking. I don't mind 2 quick charges a day. Any advice welcome!
I had the first Moto 360 before buying Watch4 Classic 46mm on January. I can't say I don't like it but indeed it's so much different and generally speakingoto 360 look nicer to me.
Anyway my battery can last 2 days but not a lot of notifications, brief calls directly on the watch, AOD. But when the GPS is enabled the drain is faster (and there's no way to use the phone GPS as an option, which I don't understand).
I would consider that newest fossil and moo 360 3rd still don't have Wear OS 3, if I'm not mistaken

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