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Sorry new to Flashing. I am on the OTA GB 2.3, does it matter what kind of Rom i flash Or does it have to be a GB Rom? It says to wipe data, is that a standard factory reset? I seen another Rom i wanted to flash & it says to petition your SD card, Will this affect any other Roms i decide to flash after i petition it? Is there a certain way to petition a 16GB memory card? I know i can do it through recovery but what options do i select? What does petitioning the SD card do? I am using RA as my recovery. Does only the sense 3.0 Roms require you to wipe SD card? I have read a lot about flashing but haven't really seen anything about these questions. Thanks
Exiled44 said:
Sorry new to Flashing. I am on the OTA GB 2.3, does it matter what kind of Rom i flash Or does it have to be a GB Rom? It says to wipe data, is that a standard factory reset? I seen another Rom i wanted to flash & it says to petition your SD card, Will this affect any other Roms i decide to flash after i petition it? Is there a certain way to petition a 16GB memory card? I know i can do it through recovery but what options do i select? What does petitioning the SD card do? I am using RA as my recovery. Does only the sense 3.0 Roms require you to wipe SD card? I have read a lot about flashing but haven't really seen anything about these questions. Thanks
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First it is PARtition, not petition. It creates basically a place on your SD card that you can install apps to and save data to do free up system memory. It is not necessary, but sometimes useful. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1121538&highlight=partition+sd+card
You don't need a GB ROM I don't think. You do need to wipe the Caches and device. In Amon RA, look for wipe cache and dalvik cache.
It's not difficult, just stick with it. And Search before posting. You aren't the first to ask this questionl.
nickelghandi said:
First it is PARtition, not petition. It creates basically a place on your SD card that you can install apps to and save data to do free up system memory. It is not necessary, but sometimes useful. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1121538&highlight=partition+sd+card
You don't need a GB ROM I don't think. You do need to wipe the Caches and device. In Amon RA, look for wipe cache and dalvik cache.
It's not difficult, just stick with it. And Search before posting. You aren't the first to ask this questionl.
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I know i get in a hurry & spell wrong. Lol I know about wiping caches. Some Roms require you to wipe SD card like sense 3.0 based Roms? I have searched a LOT & read a lot. I'm just ready to start flashing & try not to run into a thousand problems, that's why i made this thread, sorry if it's already been posted. Thanks for the help.
Try using rom manager to start with it does all the work for you. they have a couple of good roms if you have something that's not included in rom manager, try to read up more on how to flash it. or you can also youtube it. i have seen pretty good tutorials on flashing roms on youtube.
Hope that helps...
Truballa4real7 said:
Try using rom manager to start with it does all the work for you. they have a couple of good roms if you have something that's not included in rom manager, try to read up more on how to flash it. or you can also youtube it. i have seen pretty good tutorials on flashing roms on youtube.
Hope that helps...
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I have watched many video's on youtube about flashing. All the really popular roms i want are not on youtube for some reason. Just seems like Synergy,Cyanogen & a few others that i didn't really like. Are older Roms that were made last year still usable on the Evo 2.3? Just curious... Thanks
Exiled44 said:
I have watched many video's on youtube about flashing. All the really popular roms i want are not on youtube for some reason. Just seems like Synergy,Cyanogen & a few others that i didn't really like. Are older Roms that were made last year still usable on the Evo 2.3? Just curious... Thanks
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Yeah you can still use them, probably wont see any updates if they have bugs. wouldnt recommend it unless the dev is still working on it..
Truballa4real7 said:
Yeah you can still use them, probably wont see any updates if they have bugs. wouldnt recommend it unless the dev is still working on it..
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Great, Thanks. I'll take your advice & stay away. lol
I'm about to flash the Koni's ELITE Series 3 Rom
It says
Flashing instructions:
1. Download ROM and Calkulin FORMAT_ALL.zip and place both on the root of your SD card.
2. Reboot into Recovery.
3. Perform Nandroid backup
4. Wipe dalvik cache, cache and data for best performance.
5. Flash FORMAT_ALL.zip....then in same recovery, flash ELITE ROM.
Reboot.
I have it all setup but am i sup-post to wipe ALL userdata/Factory reset?
I already wiped both Cache & data, did Nandroid backup but i thought when you flash a rom you have to do a factory reset.
Exiled44 said:
Great, Thanks. I'll take your advice & stay away. lol
I'm about to flash the Koni's ELITE Series 3 Rom
It says
Flashing instructions:
1. Download ROM and Calkulin FORMAT_ALL.zip and place both on the root of your SD card.
2. Reboot into Recovery.
3. Perform Nandroid backup
4. Wipe dalvik cache, cache and data for best performance.
5. Flash FORMAT_ALL.zip....then in same recovery, flash ELITE ROM.
Reboot.
I have it all setup but am i sup-post to wipe ALL userdata/Factory reset?
I already wiped both Cache & data, did Nandroid backup but i thought when you flash a rom you have to do a factory reset.
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Can someone please answer this real fast, I am in recovery right now lol waiting on what the next step is before i move on to flash format.zip. Do i need to do a factory reset before i flash? I was just looking in forums & it says that format.zip is for 2.1 & 2.2. Will this work on the OTA GB 2.3? Since i already wiped all cache & data, if i go out of recovery will it affect my Official 2.3 stock Rom?
I'm pretty sure you can you have to wipe b4 flashing I always do atleast just to be safe..
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That's what i thought then i just looked up the Format all.zip again & it said that it wiped everything but i'm not sure if it works for the Official 2.3 I already wiped the Cache/Daviks cache + Data & if the format doesn't work not sure if i can go back to my stock rom without any problems. Hate finding this stuff out when I'm in the middle of it. lol. Think i should just get out of recovery & try to go back to stock rom, hope it works.
The best thing to do is a nandroid backup. It will backup your stock Rom so if you have any problems you can always flash back.
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I haven't seen anything on needing to wipe the SD card. Partitioning only gives you extra space for apps but it will format or wipe the SD card in the process. If you don't partition, you should be fine. Always backup anything you don't want to lose though because something could always go bump in the night.
For that I'd use Clockwork Mod Recovery to back up your ROM and SD card. You can even use ROM manager from the market. It's free and easy to use.
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Easiest way to do it is to just folllow the directions that the developers put in the threads with their roms. if you follow those EXACTLY nothing will go wrong just jump in and get your feet wet and enjoy all the custom roms out there
Also there are several threads on xda that are tutorials on how to flash roms. if you follow all directions completely and exactly you will not have any issues with flashing as long as your files arent corrupted
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Also there are several threads on xda that are tutorials on how to flash roms. if you follow all directions completely and exactly you will not have any issues with flashing as long as your files arent corrupted
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What he said! Lol
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Thanks guys for all the advice! I don't care what others say XDA members are the best. lol. I made a Nandroid backup now im ready to start flashing. When i did do the Nandroid backup i checked cache & Sd ext i think it was along with every other check box, took a very long time, Should i have saved the cache in the Nandroid backup? Does it really matter? I think it used like 100 more MB saving cache. Do you guys do it?
Alright I going keep this simple. I checked all over the forum and can't find a sollution. My devs told me to come here and told me no one else has this issue.
Following is my specs. s3, running twrp 2.3.3.1 have sense it came out. I have a 32 gig SD card patriot. I am running super su (note that)
I use TB backup normal. I run inverted Gapps, normaly.
My attempts to fix.
Did a clean install, format system, factory data reset, cache, dalvik in TWRP. I installed rootbox, I installed normal Gapps 20121212, then
Get to home screen I dont reinstall anything except
TB backup, Root Tool box, and updated super su (which might be installed wrong)
anyways I reboot to back up when there done and poof Roottoolbox is no longer there, though icon is still there. Missing app.... icon still there WTF
TB lost its cousin TB pro (key) but TB is there.... wtf
Oh and super su lost its update as did gapps updates
All missing
Also I can reinstall apps restart again and BAM apps missing again same ones same updates.
Is this something I could of done in android comander? I use droid manager and droid explore too..
Never had a issue back on 4.1 jellybam I flased a few roms 4.2 roms..
baked bean, aokp , cm10 tried them now im on rootbox
I did flash the broken jellybam 5.1 a bunch times trying get to work (shrug) dunno if that matters and I flashed from 4.1 to 4.2 a lot of times
I assume some folder got moved its like my system picks apps to move to certain places
OR maybe I installed backed up apps with android comander somewhere i shouldn't so now I can't install them again (though flashing clean install should fixed everything)
Give me some ideas please thank you
I never had a issue that clean install didn't fix so Im worried. I still have old backup on my computer of before the problem started but there 4.1 roms and I don't wana compound my issues so I wait untill I get reply to try anything crazy
I think I know whats wrong I explored a bit and i dunno my data/data folder is FULL of old stuff I guess I asumed it got cleaned out with system wipe in TWRP
So my question is .... assuming im going to do a reinstall what should I wipe to clean out my system folders? I don't want to clean my SD card just the system I want a true fresh install thank you
xxsicknessxx said:
I think I know whats wrong I explored a bit and i dunno my data/data folder is FULL of old stuff I guess I asumed it got cleaned out with system wipe in TWRP
So my question is .... assuming im going to do a reinstall what should I wipe to clean out my system folders? I don't want to clean my SD card just the system I want a true fresh install thank you
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my advice to you is clean up all partitions by using odin to flash back to stock, reroot, custom recovery and start flashing again. seems like your partitions need a cleaning bud, I'm 99% sure this will solve your problem.
p.s. wiping in recovery is not the same thing as odin back to stock, a full odin flash back to stock will fix EVERY partition on your phone and really clean things up. You can even do a full wipe after the odin to stock to really make sure your system is clean.
also use sdmaid (root app) to clean out your sdcard of crap
Danvdh said:
my advice to you is clean up all partitions by using odin to flash back to stock, reroot, custom recovery and start flashing again. seems like your partitions need a cleaning bud, I'm 99% sure this will solve your problem.
p.s. wiping in recovery is not the same thing as odin back to stock, a full odin flash back to stock will fix EVERY partition on your phone and really clean things up. You can even do a full wipe after the odin to stock to really make sure your system is clean.
also use sdmaid (root app) to clean out your sdcard of crap
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Any chance you got a link to advise me on how to do that? I havn't ever gone back to stock...
Odin or mobile odin? Im assuming Normal odin. hmpf sounds good to me but maybe i shouldn't do it at 1:52 am
xxsicknessxx said:
Any chance you got a link to advise me on how to do that? I havn't ever gone back to stock...
Odin or mobile odin? Im assuming Normal odin. hmpf sounds good to me but maybe i shouldn't do it at 1:52 am
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Get your stock firmware 4.0.4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1968625
use this toolkit to guide you through everything, it will basically teach you how to use odin, I recommend it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1746665
FOLLOW ON SCREEN INSTRUCTIONS, don't get ahead of yourself, the tool kit tells you what to do.
root and install custom recovery afterwords using the toolkit
once again, FOLLOW ON SCREEN INSTRUCTIONS, don't get ahead of yourself, the tool kit tells you what to do.
once you boot up just factory reset inside the rom, reboot into recovery (toolkit will do it for you if you choose the setting) and start flashing again
also don't forget to reflash the latest modem for your carrier, found here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1831898
also, I think you should format your sd card, just back up ALL your important stuff on your PC and move it back after, you will REALLY clean stuff up big time,
-I have to flash modem?
-Do I need a kernal?
-I cant use any of my backups after I do this right?
Last but not least I have my stock backup before I started flashing that isn't going to help right? Whats ever messed up im going need to do this all the way right?
Anyways I figure it can't hurt but I gotta make sure I get perfect directions I can follow but if I have guess on anything im doomed. I downloading the stock file now (I think right one its ATT) doesn't say d2att but I assume ATT means that all 3 recoverys are for d2att
anyways you helped me a bunch using search I know I can figure the rest out im going download everything get sleep and attemt in morning I come back let ya know if I get back to running.
Funny this problem effecs so few apps just a couple I must done something wrong. I don't get how anything can live past system wipe in TWRP... I mean it deletes system files right? They get replaced by my new roms files I thought but instead they seem like they get left over every time i wipe... I dunno why. If this don't work im using my warrenty
how come i cant just wipe data then install a fresh rom off my sd card? or could my recovery be messed up also.... (dam) i guess this makes sense oh well lol
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Thanks a bunch man.
Every once in awhile someone really is helpfull on this forum and its cool when it happens. *Tips his hat* thanks
I already formated my sd card (will do it again if nessisery)
Just did it few seconds ago figured might help. umm only other question now is.. do I need flash kernal or is that included... and also the s3 toolkit (I have it already) and have used it I only sounds like a noob I just confused at this issue. Umm it doesn't have my specific model will that be a issue? I know it has i747 but not samsung galaxy i747 att
or does not matter only the i747 part needs be right only asking so i don't F up
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i747 is at&t
i747m is Canada
T999 is tmobile
that should help you out, also, the odin flash covers every partition. kernel, rom, modem etc. you will need to flash a custom kernel after your rooted and have a custom recovery. I would do a little bit more research, flash the rom in my sig (my own rom) when your up and running and use it as a daily driver untill you figure things out a little bit more with some good ol reading :highfive:
that was a long download. I know what im kinda doing. I done same thing on my S2 reverted it to sell. The only difference is my S3 is a girl about things. my s2 could take anything.
Anyways I had a long night.. i dunno what problem IS but I think has to do with me having android comander and backing up my APKs to my computer and my phone. and reinstalling apps with bolth programs.
Its so easy to use Android comander that I dunno maybe I been installing apps in wrong places and it finaly caught up to me
Or maybe phone defective.. *shrug* dunno others had my issues too but no fixes really. Nothing solid.
I give your idea a try but I did just wipe data, wipe system factory data and bla bla nothing helps it still happens. the same dam 3 apps too... over and over jezzzz
Thanks for help Im to tired to continue was just waiting for the reocvery to finish later
Anyone answer this.
If I format everything in Twrp all my
system/system/app folders
system/data/app folders
data/data/ folders
And so forth do they get delete and new one put in there place
do they get over written and merge with the ones from last rom
nothing happens to them?
I need to know. And this Full Recovery via odin the guy above says to do will it really get rid of them? all Not leave stuff behind
I think this is my problem if it isn't then its a faulty phone but problems just started so i think its something i did on acciednt
Even though I installed newest TWRP sometimes its like Settings get left over even after a full wipe. Including data (did last night)
Did data, system, cache , dalvik, factory reset, I even formated SD card
Then reindtall rom downloded rom manager. restarted and poof gone and left behind short cut on the desktop
So wtf ? and settings won't stick they revert back default like it can't remember **** its been smoking weed i bet... dam phone
any ideas help or will flashing odin fix this because i don't wana mess phone up worse
Wait..did you format internal SD?
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jasvncnt1 said:
Wait..did you format internal SD?
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I took bolth out first trasferd exSD and formated on my computer... then after I did a DATA WIPE in TWRP which is a format of interneal sd card (correct?)
Just to see if help.. I ran SD maid cleaned up tons of crap... but still having issues... I dunno maybe its the roms and no one else noticed because they don't flash as much as me.... whatever this is going on its weird... Like I said its got something do with data from apps being stored in wrong place so when I update them they get sent to the wrong folder somehow but only some of them get sent there ( dunno ) then when I reboot they gone and I come back and my settings gone too... also when I flash a rom sometimes settings are picked for me already (then if I change them and flash again) they might be different... or I get settings from a old rom.. and I always clean flash btw
Very odd I dunno I going do odin thing tonight just waiting get more info I don't feel like I can do it right now with out Fing it up
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I took bolth out first trasferd exSD and formated on my computer... then after I did a DATA WIPE in TWRP which is a format of interneal sd card (correct?)
Just to see if help.. I ran SD maid cleaned up tons of crap... but still having issues... I dunno maybe its the roms and no one else noticed because they don't flash as much as me.... whatever this is going on its weird... Like I said its got something do with data from apps being stored in wrong place so when I update them they get sent to the wrong folder somehow but only some of them get sent there ( dunno ) then when I reboot they gone and I come back and my settings gone too... also when I flash a rom sometimes settings are picked for me already (then if I change them and flash again) they might be different... or I get settings from a old rom.. and I always clean flash btw
Very odd I dunno I going do odin thing tonight just waiting get more info I don't feel like I can do it right now with out Fing it up
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Reguardless of what I did to cause this what I don't get is why wiping everything and installing fresh rom doesn't do the trick?
Is there any other way to clean out all /system folders / data folders / root folders of crap and start brand new? beside above post?
xxsicknessxx said:
I took bolth out first trasferd exSD and formated on my computer... then after I did a DATA WIPE in TWRP which is a format of interneal sd card (correct?)
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Wipe data doesn't format your internal. You need to actually format internal. Cant remember where that option is. Might be in "wipe" or in "advanced" . BUT....it will wipe everything of your internal. What ever you have saved.... Backups....pics.
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Wipe data doesn't format your internal. You need to actually format internal. Cant remember where that option is. Might be in "wipe" or in "advanced" . BUT....it will wipe everything of your internal. What ever you have saved.... Backups....pics.
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everything important is saved on my computer honestly I make lots of backups im a carefull person I been reading about corrupt EFS folders, and bad system directories and stuff....
Seems only way fix it go back to stock and go through your folders.... Once im stock again I hope I do this right (im ready to do it now) just ... feel like this could all go wrong
What do I do once im stock? Just wipe the phone? factory data... its the not having a custom recovery (with stock) that scares me so much... I rooted this phone with a program I didn't do it by hand so Im worrried I might not get it right *sigh*
Once your back on stock n rooted install goomanager and installed TWRP again.
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Wipe data doesn't format your internal. You need to actually format internal. Cant remember where that option is. Might be in "wipe" or in "advanced" . BUT....it will wipe everything of your internal. What ever you have saved.... Backups....pics.
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Alright so im stock now. with root... Havn't formatted yet (no point) I already did that ... I know how this happned I think..
When I kept going from 4.1 and 4.2 I would get 0 folders so I took it and moved it back by just droping all folders back into the main drive so alll combine. It seemed to work but does sound possible? Would that casue issues with /root folder or is /root got nothing do with internal storage because I can't see it from computer
HEY quick what do I do with 0 folder? delete it all? combine? cry..... hehe I only got 1 but what do I do with it thanks
I wana make sure I fixed now
Danvdh said:
Get your stock firmware 4.0.4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1968625
use this toolkit to guide you through everything, it will basically teach you how to use odin, I recommend it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1746665
FOLLOW ON SCREEN INSTRUCTIONS, don't get ahead of yourself, the tool kit tells you what to do.
root and install custom recovery afterwords using the toolkit
once again, FOLLOW ON SCREEN INSTRUCTIONS, don't get ahead of yourself, the tool kit tells you what to do.
once you boot up just factory reset inside the rom, reboot into recovery (toolkit will do it for you if you choose the setting) and start flashing again
also don't forget to reflash the latest modem for your carrier, found here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1831898
also, I think you should format your sd card, just back up ALL your important stuff on your PC and move it back after, you will REALLY clean stuff up big time,
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Thanks again for the information you helped a lot and I think that worked. I think its fixed. I can't be sure but its not happening at least like it was before. I prob won't know for awhile if its going to happen again for sure but Im optimistic. I mean what else can I do after this lol buy a new phone
Thanks dude most people arn't that nice to explain everything to me
hi, i recently got an ATT note 2. The phone I got already got Clean ROM 3.5, so I presume it is rooted, with custom recovery (TWRP when I checked). I am thinking of flashing to a diff rom and just want to ask a few questions.
1-do I need to run triangle away every time I flash to a diff rom?
2-since the phone already has a custom rom, I should not have to root it, am I correct?
3-If I want to install custom, ROMs, can I just put the ROM in the external SD and flash it that way (of course with clear cash, davik, etc as states in the rom).
4-I am thinking of playing with the CleanROM 4.2.4 or the ACE version? any issue with either one compare to the 3.5 that I am using now? any recommendation?
5-anything I need ot watch out before I flash it? I have flashed a coupole of time with htc phone and this is my first samsung phone so I don't watn to brick it.
thanks a lot guys, XDA rocks.
PUTALE said:
hi, i recently got an ATT note 2. The phone I got already got Clean ROM 3.5, so I presume it is rooted, with custom recovery (TWRP when I checked). I am thinking of flashing to a diff rom and just want to ask a few questions.
1-do I need to run triangle away every time I flash to a diff rom?
2-since the phone already has a custom rom, I should not have to root it, am I correct?
3-If I want to install custom, ROMs, can I just put the ROM in the external SD and flash it that way (of course with clear cash, davik, etc as states in the rom).
4-I am thinking of playing with the CleanROM 4.2.4 or the ACE version? any issue with either one compare to the 3.5 that I am using now? any recommendation?
5-anything I need ot watch out before I flash it? I have flashed a coupole of time with htc phone and this is my first samsung phone so I don't watn to brick it.
thanks a lot guys, XDA rocks.
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1. No you do not need to run triangle away usually only have to run it if you are going back to stock and may want to return the phone.
2.Nope it has a Rom you are rooted !
3.That is what I do when installing a new rom factory reset wipe davlik and cache and install you may have to fix permissions with some installs as well after installing.
4.From the bit I played with the new Clean rom it is very stable with minimum if any grief Jedi 9 is also a awesome ROM and my current fave.
5.Just read up lots before you do it follow every step they tell you to take your time it is easy just make sure ya know what you are doing before you start.
6.Enjoy they are a awesome phone !!
Thanks a lot for your prompt reply. It heped a lot. I will definitelycheck the roms. I am using 3.5 and it runs really good and hate to ruin it.
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PUTALE said:
Thanks a lot for your prompt reply. It heped a lot. I will definitelycheck the roms. I am using 3.5 and it runs really good and hate to ruin it.
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do a backup in twrp before flashing a new one, you can always come back
thanks for the info. That brings me to another question with TWRP, when I do TWRP backup, should I backup everything, modem, efs, etc. Also, if I use that backup and I do restore, does it restore everything, program, rom, setting, etc?
Also, if I want to flash the stock ROM, would that mess up my root, recovery etc? Do I need to do anything if I flash the stock ROM? From my past experience, sometimes, it is good to flash the stock rom once in awhile since that seem to do some sort of clean up and it also helped to keep the modem and such up to date.Probaby won't keep the stock for a long time but just thought I may flash it to play with it and keep the modem files up to date. Then flash custom rom. I also read that if I want to use triangle, I must be on stock rom or it will brick my phone, so I want to make sure before I start playing with diff roms.
thanks a lot guys
PUTALE said:
thanks for the info. That brings me to another question with TWRP, when I do TWRP backup, should I backup everything, modem, efs, etc. Also, if I use that backup and I do restore, does it restore everything, program, rom, setting, etc?
Also, if I want to flash the stock ROM, would that mess up my root, recovery etc? Do I need to do anything if I flash the stock ROM? From my past experience, sometimes, it is good to flash the stock rom once in awhile since that seem to do some sort of clean up and it also helped to keep the modem and such up to date.Probaby won't keep the stock for a long time but just thought I may flash it to play with it and keep the modem files up to date. Then flash custom rom. I also read that if I want to use triangle, I must be on stock rom or it will brick my phone, so I want to make sure before I start playing with diff roms.
thanks a lot guys
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This is one of nice features of TWRP... ability to backup/restore individual partitions. Android stores various blocks in different partitions. To name a few, System, Data, Modem, Recovery, Boot, Cache, etc. If you just want to backup your modem for example, just check the "modem" box (and I recommend naming the folder to something significant so down the road you'll know which modem it is). When you restore, that folder will only have your modem.. so you can restore a different modem without having to change your rom, (etc). Kernels are stored in the "boot" partitions.. again, if you want to change kernels, backup the boot partition and name it properly if case you want to reflash that kernel. Generally, after my first flash of a new ROM, kernel, modem, I'll create a "boot" backup, "modem" backup, and ROM (system/data/boot) partition backups. If you look in the TWRP folders themselves, you can see the blocks which are backed up... or will be restored. Hope that helps.
PUTALE said:
thanks for the info. That brings me to another question with TWRP, when I do TWRP backup, should I backup everything, modem, efs, etc. Also, if I use that backup and I do restore, does it restore everything, program, rom, setting, etc?
Also, if I want to flash the stock ROM, would that mess up my root, recovery etc? Do I need to do anything if I flash the stock ROM? From my past experience, sometimes, it is good to flash the stock rom once in awhile since that seem to do some sort of clean up and it also helped to keep the modem and such up to date.Probaby won't keep the stock for a long time but just thought I may flash it to play with it and keep the modem files up to date. Then flash custom rom. I also read that if I want to use triangle, I must be on stock rom or it will brick my phone, so I want to make sure before I start playing with diff roms.
thanks a lot guys
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When I back up in TWRP, I usually just go with what is default checked off. You will not mess up your root unless you really really tried to. The last time I ever had to flash back to stock then to a custom was on my Xperia X10a... You should be fine flashing a new rom without having to go back to stock as long as you do a good wipe (Wipe System, Factory Rest, Davlik, and Cache is what I do only because it doesn't hurt... I've read you do not need to do all those steps but I do them nonetheless). Do not use Triangle Away unless you plan on returning your phone or send it in for warranty. Only then should you start asking questions about that tool.
The only issue that may cause SOME confusion (not too much but some) is flashing back and forth between a 4.1.2 and a 4.2.1 since the SD card adjusts to User settings (some folders open up for individual users on 4.2 but as far as my experience goes, I have not had any issues with it, I just needed to study my SD card after each flash).
So you should be fine... just do backups, rename them to make sure you know which rom belongs to which backup, delete the old ones from the RESTORE menu in TWRP in case you are backing up the same rom to save you some space (my backups take around 2 gigs sometimes EACH) and you should be good to go... Enjoy tweaking out on your roms!
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This is one of nice features of TWRP... ability to backup/restore individual partitions. Android stores various blocks in different partitions. To name a few, System, Data, Modem, Recovery, Boot, Cache, etc. If you just want to backup your modem for example, just check the "modem" box (and I recommend naming the folder to something significant so down the road you'll know which modem it is). When you restore, that folder will only have your modem.. so you can restore a different modem without having to change your rom, (etc). Kernels are stored in the "boot" partitions.. again, if you want to change kernels, backup the boot partition and name it properly if case you want to reflash that kernel. Generally, after my first flash of a new ROM, kernel, modem, I'll create a "boot" backup, "modem" backup, and ROM (system/data/boot) partition backups. If you look in the TWRP folders themselves, you can see the blocks which are backed up... or will be restored. Hope that helps.
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Much appreciated for your detail explanation on the TWRP. I did a quick backup and selected all of the option and now I see the files in my external SD:
modem.emmc.win
data.ext4.win
cache.ext4.win
recovery.emmc.win
boot.emmc.win
efs.ext4.win
data.ext4.win
system.ext4.win
Quick question. If I understand correctly, the modem and efs is not ROM backup, so if I just want to revert to the rom I am currently running with all apps and such, I only need to backup system, boot, data, am I correct?
Also, is there any way that I can retain my data, settings, and apps, without re-download and re-configurate everything after I flash to a new ROM? I am thinking that maybe data will do such thing but not too certain. In the past, whenever I flash to a new rom, I always download all apps again from market and setup everything again, a bit hassle but that's how I did
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When I back up in TWRP, I usually just go with what is default checked off. You will not mess up your root unless you really really tried to. The last time I ever had to flash back to stock then to a custom was on my Xperia X10a... You should be fine flashing a new rom without having to go back to stock as long as you do a good wipe (Wipe System, Factory Rest, Davlik, and Cache is what I do only because it doesn't hurt... I've read you do not need to do all those steps but I do them nonetheless). Do not use Triangle Away unless you plan on returning your phone or send it in for warranty. Only then should you start asking questions about that tool.
The only issue that may cause SOME confusion (not too much but some) is flashing back and forth between a 4.1.2 and a 4.2.1 since the SD card adjusts to User settings (some folders open up for individual users on 4.2 but as far as my experience goes, I have not had any issues with it, I just needed to study my SD card after each flash).
So you should be fine... just do backups, rename them to make sure you know which rom belongs to which backup, delete the old ones from the RESTORE menu in TWRP in case you are backing up the same rom to save you some space (my backups take around 2 gigs sometimes EACH) and you should be good to go... Enjoy tweaking out on your roms!
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thanks for the info/warning on the triangle. I read that it can brick the phone and also needs to be on the stock to use it. Also read that if there's too many counts, it may not work. I guess for now, I just won't touch it.
Since there's no 4.2 roms available (at least not what I have seen and want to play, CleanRom or Jedi as they are highly rated), I guess for now I do not have to worry much on the SD card issue. It will be safer I guess for now just stick with 4.1.2 until the kinks are worked out.
For the wipe system, factory, davlik, cache, do I do that before flashing it?watched a couple of video and instruction and they all have diff answers. Some people said do factory reset, flash, and then wipe davik and cache.
Again, really really appreciate all of the support guys.
PUTALE said:
Much appreciated for your detail explanation on the TWRP. I did a quick backup and selected all of the option and now I see the files in my external SD:
modem.emmc.win
data.ext4.win
cache.ext4.win
recovery.emmc.win
boot.emmc.win
efs.ext4.win
data.ext4.win
system.ext4.win
Quick question. If I understand correctly, the modem and efs is not ROM backup, so if I just want to revert to the rom I am currently running with all apps and such, I only need to backup system, boot, data, am I correct?
Also, is there any way that I can retain my data, settings, and apps, without re-download and re-configurate everything after I flash to a new ROM? I am thinking that maybe data will do such thing but not too certain. In the past, whenever I flash to a new rom, I always download all apps again from market and setup everything again, a bit hassle but that's how I did
thanks for the info/warning on the triangle. I read that it can brick the phone and also needs to be on the stock to use it. Also read that if there's too many counts, it may not work. I guess for now, I just won't touch it.
Since there's no 4.2 roms available (at least not what I have seen and want to play, CleanRom or Jedi as they are highly rated), I guess for now I do not have to worry much on the SD card issue. It will be safer I guess for now just stick with 4.1.2 until the kinks are worked out.
For the wipe system, factory, davlik, cache, do I do that before flashing it?watched a couple of video and instruction and they all have diff answers. Some people said do factory reset, flash, and then wipe davik and cache.
Again, really really appreciate all of the support guys.
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Think of your Nandroid (TWRP) backup as a roll back to what you are comfortable with (check everything off so you do not lose a thing if you want) in case you find that the new thing you flashed isn't all that it was cracked up to be for you or something messes up. The Nandroid backup is EVERYONE's friend.
As for flashing a new ROM and having to start all over, I will use this as an example: I have two backups; one for Paranoid Android (4.2.1 AOSPA) and Clean 4.2.5 (4.1.2). When I originally flashed my stock to Clean, I must've gotten lucky by just wiping the system (ROM only and not a factory reset) and all my data transferred over just fine with no issues... but when flashing to PA, I had to do a full wipe then start from scratch (which was not bad if you sync your apps and contacts thru Google). Also, you might want to get another backup system such as Super Backup to back up your contacts and SMS messages (be careful with backing up call logs if you go to 4.2.1 ROMs because for some reason, things went wacky for me). Titanium is a good system to use for power users but sometimes, to keep it as simple as possible, count on Google at first for your app syncing (and if you get Amazon App Store, you will have to get that APK to download the apps from that store).
Anyway, from there (if you want to play with multiple ROMs) you now have a foundation. Dirty flashing (flashing a new version of a ROM you currently have without doing a full wipe... just in case you didn't know... for me, I just wipe System [no factory reset] then flash the upgrade) should be fine... again, I'm typing from experience because there are some people who do run into issues dirty flashing and is usually not supported by the devs unless you do a full wipe and flash. I have not had any issues whatsoever dirty flashing both PA and Clean versions.
As for methods of wiping, honestly they're all right... I just posted what I usually do when I want to do a full wipe. Only if you want to do a dirty flash, you won't have to wipe or do a partial wipe (I partial wipe e.g. Clean 4.0.5 to 4.2.5: Delete last Clean Rom backup through the Restore menu, Nandroid Back Up current working Clean Rom 4.0.5, Wipe System, Install the new 4.2.5, wipe Davlik and Cache (again, I do this just in case but some devs say it's unnecessary), then reboot and wait for the apps to reset... all was where it was when I left 4.0.5.
PUTALE said:
Quick question. If I understand correctly, the modem and efs is not ROM backup, so if I just want to revert to the rom I am currently running with all apps and such, I only need to backup system, boot, data, am I correct?
Also, is there any way that I can retain my data, settings, and apps, without re-download and re-configurate everything after I flash to a new ROM? I am thinking that maybe data will do such thing but not too certain. In the past, whenever I flash to a new rom, I always download all apps again from market and setup everything again, a bit hassle but that's how I did
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Yes... if you're retaining your current modem and recovery... to restore a rom just as it was when you backed it up, restore boot (which has the kernel), system and data. One your second question, when restoring a different rom , it's best to always restore system/data/boot together. You can use TiBu to restore your user app DATA, and individual apps usually have their own backup files you can restore (like Nova/Apex launchers [which can restore your widgets], calendar, etc).
much appreciated guys. thanks so much. I think I got it. Will get ready to pick a good ROM and starts flashing.
one little thing, I saw this rom here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2124182
it says stock rooted, does that mean that it is essentailly identical to what is found on the stock rom except that it will not mess up with my recovery and rooting if I use it to flash as oppose to the guide I saw online to flash to completely stock using ODIN.
Also, I did the unlock with what I found on the thread, would that mess got messed up when I flash to different ROM?
PUTALE said:
much appreciated guys. thanks so much. I think I got it. Will get ready to pick a good ROM and starts flashing.
one little thing, I saw this rom here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2124182
it says stock rooted, does that mean that it is essentailly identical to what is found on the stock rom except that it will not mess up with my recovery and rooting if I use it to flash as oppose to the guide I saw online to flash to completely stock using ODIN.
Also, I did the unlock with what I found on the thread, would that mess got messed up when I flash to different ROM?
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I have never used that rom so I can't say for sure. Try it out and see what happens. If you don't like it, restore your backup.
PUTALE said:
much appreciated guys. thanks so much. I think I got it. Will get ready to pick a good ROM and starts flashing.
one little thing, I saw this rom here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2124182
it says stock rooted, does that mean that it is essentailly identical to what is found on the stock rom except that it will not mess up with my recovery and rooting if I use it to flash as oppose to the guide I saw online to flash to completely stock using ODIN.
Also, I did the unlock with what I found on the thread, would that mess got messed up when I flash to different ROM?
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That rom is one of the most recent 7105 (note2 international) samsung firmware releases... supposedly better battery life than LL7 or LL4. It's the stock MA6 pre rooted (i.e., has SuperSU app and binaries included). No other features added like you would find with CleanROM 4.2.5 for example. It includes rom and kernel... so it will write to your system, data, and boot partitions. Whatever custom recovery you have now and flash this with will not be touched.
thanks again.
Hey guys I need help. Anyone have a link to the latest rooted stock rom? How is cynogenmod these days? Is it worth making the switch? Whats the most popular rom these days?
jkj said:
Hey guys I need help. Anyone have a link to the latest rooted stock rom? How is cynogenmod these days? Is it worth making the switch? Whats the most popular rom these days?
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Freeza always has the latest stock rooted ROM over in this thread. It's always updated shortly after each OTA is dropped (currently at MB1).
You can see my setup in my sig. I like it a lot!
CM10.1 nightlies are good, and a lot of the AOSP (4.2.2) ROMs are really stable. There are a lot of reasons to stay with TW ROMs and a lot of reasons to move over to AOSP, AOKP, and other ROMs (MIUI, etc). My recommendation would be to update your recovery to the latest (see my sig for the link to the latest TWRP, search for the latest CWM) and just flash away. As long as you stick to Sprint ROMs and nandroid up whenever you can, it's getting difficult to brick your phone.
jkj said:
I downloaded the stock odexed zip and odin but it doesnt seem like the right file type for odin to flash?
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First off, you're going to need to have a custom recovery, if you don't already have one (most people do after they originally flash their phone). There are many guides to do this, just follow one of qbking77's great tutorials. I'd recommend using TWRP, but the latest CWM works well also.
Now that you have a custom recovery, you can try the following and it might get you out of the bootloop:
In the custom recovery, clear (wipe) both cache and dalvik cache. Then reboot the phone (reboot menu -> system).
If the above doesn't work to get you through the bootloop, try the instructions below:
Now that you have a custom recovery, you need to get the files onto your phone. Since you cannot turn your phone on to download it or connect through USB, you'll have to do it through recovery. Since I use TWRP, I'll walk you through the menu's for that (CWM should be similar).
Connect USB cable to computer -> Mount Menu -> Mount USB Storage.
Now your computer should see a "removable disk" with the contents of your SD Card on it. Now you can copy the ROM you downloaded over to the SD Card.
Now that the file is actually on the phone, you can flash the ROM zip in recovery. Whenever you do this, it's best to do what is called a "full wipe" in the recovery. You'll lose all your apps, settings, etc but it's much better than having a paperweight. In TWRP, what I always do is the following:
1) Nandroid backup: I normally name it something along the lines of "2013-03-14 - ROM NAME - ROM VERSION." This way, when I look through my backups, I can easily see what I was running (what I'm restoring when I want to restore).
2) Wipe Menu - Factory Reset. This will wipe all custom data off of the phone. For me, this is a must before flashing any new ROM. Other people will "dirty flash" Roms on top of each other. For me, that's a recipe for disaster, as any leftover settings/code will inevitably interfere with the new ROM and will mess things up.
3) Wipe Menu - Dalvik Cache and Cache: If I recall correctly, the Factory Reset does both of these, but it doesn't hurt to do it again.
4) Install: This is where you find the ROM zip file you downloaded and install it. Should take less than a minute, but some larger ROMs could take a little longer (not 10 minutes, though).
3) Wipe Menu - Dalvik Cache and Cache: Again, not technically required, but I tend to wipe the cache and dalvik cache very often.
3) Reboot Menu - System: Pretty self-explanatory, but it'll reboot your phone and you can set it up all over again.
In the future, it's best to have Titanium Backup to back up apps and data (For me it's worth the cost to upgrade to Pro). I have mine set up to backup all data every night at 3 am, with a maximum of 5 backups per app. This gives me almost a week of backups that I can restore for every app I have installed. The only thing to keep in mind with TiB is that you can backup/restore system apps that won't work with a new ROM. For example, if I backed up the Samsung Connection Optimizer on the stock rooted ROM and tried to restore it to LiquidSmooth (a 4.2.2 AOSP ROM), it wouldn't work. In fact, it could mess things up on my new ROM. So you might want to pick and choose system apps (RED items) carefully when you're restoring. Next time you want to try out a new ROM (or if you need to restore again because of a bootloop), you can just restore your apps/settings through TiB and not go through 2 hours of setting up all your settings again (for me I like that I can restore all the wifi access spots settings... saves me from explaining why I need my friend's WEP key for the fifth time this month).
Anyways, this post has turned into a novel. Please let me know if you have any more questions (and CNexus or anyone else can correct anything that's wrong)
I got it going by wiping cache and data. I should've tried with just cache wiped. Its annoying to have to redo everything but better than a brick.
Now for some reason my wifi wont turn on. Reflashed again now I'm good to go.
Ok, completely new with this. I did a basic root, got superuser cwm and busybox from my understanding. I used Samsung Galaxy Toolkit v7.0.0
I would like to install the MoAR onto my phone. But I'm not 100% sure how to do so. I have Odin v3.4, I was going to do it as a PDA file. But I don't see anything that says it's a .tar file.
If someone could point me in the right direction, or a video would be great.
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Ok, completely new with this. I did a basic root, got superuser cwm and busybox from my understanding. I used Samsung Galaxy Toolkit v7.0.0
I would like to install the MoAR onto my phone. But I'm not 100% sure how to do so. I have Odin v3.4, I was going to do it as a PDA file. But I don't see anything that says it's a .tar file.
If someone could point me in the right direction, or a video would be great.
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I'm going to assume you're able to boot into a custom recovery (CWM). I persoanlly use TWRP, but either will work well for this. If you can't go through the root process again, based on qbking77's thread. Check out the videos and learn how to use Odin to gain root and a custom recovery. (always good to take a refresher course).
Here are directions on how to flash a Rom below. The instructions will be for TWRP, but CWM has similar options/settings
Make sure the zip of the Rom you downloaded is on your externalSD Card or the root directory of your internal memory.
Turn your phone completely off (hold down power for 3-5 seconds)
Boot your phone into recovery. Hold Up, Menu, and Power for a few seconds (until SAMSUNG appears on your screen and the phone vibrates)
Make a Nandroid backup. I can't emphasize this enough. In flashing, it's a certainty that at least one time, something will mess up. When that happens, you want to be able to restore a backup. In TWRP, just go into Backup Menu and choose where you want it (internal vs. External storage). It takes my phone a few (5-10) minutes to completely backup my data.
In TWRP, click the wipe button, then system. This will completely wipe the Rom from your phone. Doing this will allow you to get a "clean" install, without any settings or leftover files from your old Rom getting in the way. Instead, you could only wipe data (factory reset), which is good enough for most Roms. I'd still recommend a system wipe, though, as you never know exactly what might be left over from your old Rom (especially when going from 4.1.X to 4.2.X or vice-versa).
Also while in the Wipe menu, wipe Cache and Dalvik Cache (can't hurt).
Go back to the TWRP main menu.
Click Install, then find your Rom zip file (may have to switch from internal to external storage).
Let TWRP do it's thing.
MOAR rom already installed. If, in the future, you flash an AOSP Rom, you should now flash the correct gapps package from goo.im. Make sure you're flashing the correct one, as if you don't, your google apps will force close upon use.
Reboot into system and give it time to boot (first boot sometimes takes a couple of minutes).
Set up your phone the way you like.
These should be the directions to follow whenever you flash a new Rom. Some Roms (such as the MOAR Rom) have the Aroma installer, so you'll have more options once you choose to flash the Rom zip, but those are typically easy to follow (and vary from Rom to Rom, so I won't be able to give you a good guide on that).
Hope this helps!
I could tell you but from what you're asking, honestly I think it's better not to and to force you to read a lot more. I am pretty new to this stuff too, joined this site in like march but I did about 3 weeks worth of reading before I rooted and flashed my first ROM. I'm not trying to be mean here but the question you're asking will be the least of your worries once you read a little more. I recommend you read this Q&A thread, it's also at the top of the Q&A forum.
Edit: It seems good guy topherk here gave you the info, I stand by what I said though, from a fellow newbie to another
jrodcamaro said:
Ok, completely new with this. I did a basic root, got superuser cwm and busybox from my understanding. I used Samsung Galaxy Toolkit v7.0.0
I would like to install the MoAR onto my phone. But I'm not 100% sure how to do so. I have Odin v3.4, I was going to do it as a PDA file. But I don't see anything that says it's a .tar file.
If someone could point me in the right direction, or a video would be great.
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Download the rom on your pc and transfer it to your sd card or internal sd card on your phone. Don't put the rom zip file in any folders as it's easier to find, commonly referred to as the root of your sd card. Power off your phone if your still on stock, after it shuts down hold the volume up button+the home button and then hold power button, this will take you to your custom recovery. First thing to do once in your recovery is make backup of your current rom, make sure you have at least 3GB free space on either your sd or internal sd, some backups can be even bigger, if you don't have space it should tell you. After your backup is done, wipe cache, dalvik cache, factory reset and then flash your rom, after it's done and you see it was successful, fix permissions and reboot...you should be good to go at that point. If all is running well you can boot back into cwm, select restore and only restore /data, to get all your apps and their data back, fix permissions again and reboot. You can use titanium backup or my backup root /pro to restore apps and data but personally I don't prefer those methods. If you have any issues, restore your backup and try again.
I see I was slow again as topherk said everything and then some lol...still posting this just in case it helps at all.
Edit; just to throw it out there I'll tell you how I do things, once your more experienced this could make flashing roms, kernels, tweaks ect, easier. I always make a backup first before I switch roms. Then I simply wipe cache, dalvik cache, flash new rom and fix permissions....reboot and enjoy, this is known as a dirty flash, some roms don't dirty flash well, some work great.
Also I always 100% of the time download roms, kernels ect straight from my phone, never had a bad download that I'm aware of, I don't check md5 sums, I just verify the size of the dl matches what I dl'd. My dl's go to my download folder on my ext sd card so when I go into recovery, I know to look in my download folder on the ext sd card.
Other things to note about dirty flashing if you choose to do it, figure out your rom issues quietly and it can't hurt to try dirty flashing if you always remember rule#1.....make a backup first. If you get stuck in a boot loop, just pull the battery, put it back in and 3 button boot to recovery and restore your backup.
Yeah, the main reason I prefer a clean flash is that when people dirty flash, any and all problems will not be supported by the developer. And since the person is asking how to flash a Rom, I doubt that they'd know what to do with a FC. I'd prefer if they would do a clean flash until they get used to it. I do all my app backups in Titanium Backup, and even then I have to be careful not to restore something that might mess up the new Rom.
Anyways, I really liked your advice with the backups: if you're ever stuck in a bootloop, you can just restore your backup. I recently tried out a new Rom that I wasn't too fond of, and in a few minutes was back to my LiquidSmooth. No sweat.
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