Has anyone installed xbmc-torrents on Amazon Fire Tv and experienced any problems? Thx
athosk said:
Has anyone installed xbmc-torrents on Amazon Fire Tv and experienced any problems? Thx
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Works perfectly fine for me
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athosk said:
Has anyone installed xbmc-torrents on Amazon Fire Tv and experienced any problems? Thx
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I have che following setup.
Rooted ftv. Xbmc 13.1. Stick mount to connect an external HDD.
Xbmctorrent is configured to save stuff on a subdir in the HDD. It works fine for TV series episodes. Yesterday night I tried with a movie and had two times the fire TV to completely crash after something like 15 minutes watching. I guess this might be related to having downloaded a file which is larger than a certain threshold. The first time it crashed I also got scared because it was stuck in the Amazon black screen without any sign of life. I removed power for a while to have it start back.
I am watching a TV episode now and it seems fine.
The other issue I experienced is sometimes getting the Xbmctorrent script failed. Not on eztv though, I guess this is related on how they handle individual sources.
Any help or other experiences?
Do you guys also know a better way integrated in xbmc to pick up a torrent to be downloaded and then watch it later, rather than immediately streaming?
I have two AFTV with XBMC 13.1 and xbmctorrent.
I never had issues with any files over 4gb. I mounted a usb flash drive (NTFS formatted) with stickmount, but I don't use that for xbmctorrent. I have xbmctorrent buffer up on the AFTV internal memory.
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I have two AFTV with XBMC 13.1 and xbmctorrent.
I never had issues with any files over 4gb. I mounted a usb flash drive (NTFS formatted) with stickmount, but I don't use that for xbmctorrent. I have xbmctorrent buffer up on the AFTV internal memory.
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This is really interesting. I wonder why I have so serious issues.
Yesterday I tried with a TV show, and it was stopping the reproduction immediately after starting, even though the download had no problems at all! After tried a few times, I had again the most disruptive crash with AFTV stuck on the black screen with white amazon logo. After that, I decided to uninstall the plugin.
Any suggestion?!
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This is really interesting. I wonder why I have so serious issues.
Yesterday I tried with a TV show, and it was stopping the reproduction immediately after starting, even though the download had no problems at all! After tried a few times, I had again the most disruptive crash with AFTV stuck on the black screen with white amazon logo. After that, I decided to uninstall the plugin.
Any suggestion?!
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Try not putting any path for the download field in xbmctorrent, so it will use the internal memory to download on.
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This issue is happenning to me as well, I have toyed with all the options\save pathes possible, nothing seems to fix it.
I also opened an Issue on XBMCTorrent's Gibhub and Stream (a fork of this addon) but no help yet.
This is my favorite addon and it's a total deal-breaker for me about the AFTV
I really hope someone will find a fix for this...
Is there a difference between xbmc torrent and an android based torrent client?
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Is there a difference between xbmc torrent and an android based torrent client?
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the difference is xbmc isnt a regular torrent addon. Its used only to stream/seed movies. you cant load a regular torrent file and expect it to download.
Oh ok cool thanks
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I think the solution is simple.....uninstall XBMC and install SPMC (XBMC for Ouya). Alot more stable and dosnt keep the data stuck in memory.
You can get it here
https://github.com/koying/SPMC/releases/download/13.2.1-spmc/spmc-armeabi-v7a_13.2.1.apk
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I think the solution is simple.....uninstall XBMC and install SPMC (XBMC for Ouya). Alot more stable and dosnt keep the data stuck in memory.
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Is there evidence of better behavior of SPMC on AFTV than regular XBMC? I just went to the official XBMC, but maybe I did the wrong choice! Is it possible to install it without losing all the preferences over current XBMC?
I'm using the xbmc with the launcher mod, and last night got the xbmctorrent to sort of work. It was making my firetv unstable, I had at least two blackscreens while using it.
I'm not on the latest xbmc but am on the latest torrent plugin, but at this point I'm not inclined to keep chasing the plugin too often, neat as it is when it works.
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Is there evidence of better behavior of SPMC on AFTV than regular XBMC? I just went to the official XBMC, but maybe I did the wrong choice! Is it possible to install it without losing all the preferences over current XBMC?
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the older version of spmc works the best.
load the apk on post 9
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54237038&postcount=9
I have personally tried XBMC on all available platforms (Apple TV, Ipad, Windows 8.1, Android minix, Android tv box wih quad core processor and 8core graphics card capable of 4K output). Best one i think is windows.....it would be apple tv but that only gives 720p output.
Now, with Amazon, XBMC torrents somehow data is being saved somewhere and if you look at the screen before launching it, you will notice that the data file keeps getting bigger and at some point that would create a problem as AFT has only 8 GB memory.
With SPMC, I haven't really seen any increaments on the data file size...i wil keep you posted in the next few days if i notice any change
I've been seeing many of the issues with xbmc torrent that I've heard reported from others - problems downloading, issues where, once a stream gets into enough trouble, the box itself resets, very long initial load times.
I thought I was giving up on it, but I was curious and decided to look into what I was seeing.
Once things get bad enough that the FTV bombs out, I also noticed that I needed to reset my firewall to get anything going on the internet in the house - aside from things that were running before I started xbmc torrent.
I took a look, and my firewall has an 8064 session limit. What I'm seeing is that I need to limit how many sessions a single client can spin up. The xbmc torrent plugin is insanely chatty, and it was exhausing my session pool!
When things got to their worst, I wasn't able to get DNS moving and when I dug in, I found that what I was seeing was that I couldn't translate the DNS requests from my lan. (In some ways, the firewall I'm using is a gynormous pain in the butt - it'd be nice if I had more than 8k outbound translations - but it makes up for it with truly epic diagnostic info.)
So, it's worth trying to see if there's a way limit the number of connections a client on your network can establish. I'm getting decent performance and still having resources available to other systems using a 512 session limit.
My impression on the FTV rebooting is that once DNS was unavailable, other services I was trying to run were crapping out, taking the OS with them.
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athosk said:
I think the solution is simple.....uninstall XBMC and install SPMC (XBMC for Ouya). Alot more stable and dosnt keep the data stuck in memory.
You can get it here
https://github.com/koying/SPMC/releases/download/13.2.1-spmc/spmc-armeabi-v7a_13.2.1.apk
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mejdam said:
the older version of spmc works the best.
load the apk on post 9
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54237038&postcount=9
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I have tried XBMC 13.1 official, BeyondXBMC, XBMC For Ouya and SPMC.
In all of them the plugin had made my XBMC go crazy and eventually reboot the entire Fire TV, on some occasions even corrupted my XBMC Skin settings somehow.
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I have personally tried XBMC on all available platforms (Apple TV, Ipad, Windows 8.1, Android minix, Android tv box wih quad core processor and 8core graphics card capable of 4K output). Best one i think is windows.....it would be apple tv but that only gives 720p output.
Now, with Amazon, XBMC torrents somehow data is being saved somewhere and if you look at the screen before launching it, you will notice that the data file keeps getting bigger and at some point that would create a problem as AFT has only 8 GB memory.
With SPMC, I haven't really seen any increaments on the data file size...i wil keep you posted in the next few days if i notice any change
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I've been seeing many of the issues with xbmc torrent that I've heard reported from others - problems downloading, issues where, once a stream gets into enough trouble, the box itself resets, very long initial load times.
I thought I was giving up on it, but I was curious and decided to look into what I was seeing.
Once things get bad enough that the FTV bombs out, I also noticed that I needed to reset my firewall to get anything going on the internet in the house - aside from things that were running before I started xbmc torrent.
I took a look, and my firewall has an 8064 session limit. What I'm seeing is that I need to limit how many sessions a single client can spin up. The xbmc torrent plugin is insanely chatty, and it was exhausing my session pool!
When things got to their worst, I wasn't able to get DNS moving and when I dug in, I found that what I was seeing was that I couldn't translate the DNS requests from my lan. (In some ways, the firewall I'm using is a gynormous pain in the butt - it'd be nice if I had more than 8k outbound translations - but it makes up for it with truly epic diagnostic info.)
So, it's worth trying to see if there's a way limit the number of connections a client on your network can establish. I'm getting decent performance and still having resources available to other systems using a 512 session limit.
My impression on the FTV rebooting is that once DNS was unavailable, other services I was trying to run were crapping out, taking the OS with them.
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This is very interesting!
I have tried various combonations of this plugin (keep torrents, trying to save to SMB share, to Disk on Key, changing File Systems [exFAT,fat32,ntfs] and nothing seemed to work).
I have never thought of it as a network problem...
It works so good on my Windows PC and my Android Mini PC...
Maybe someone can post a way to limit the connections?
Thanks
Yeah maybe you are on the right track. My xbmctorrent also crashes quite oftenly and makes my firetv to reboot. It's very annoying.
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Yeah maybe you are on the right track. My xbmctorrent also crashes quite oftenly and makes my firetv to reboot. It's very annoying.
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Same for me.
Has anyone gotten the stream plugin to work? It's being actively developed and is apparently a fork of the xbmc torrent code.
I'm unable to get it to run, either on ftv or on a tablet, and the diagnostic logging doesn't say much to me.
My firewall supports outbound rules that apply per host, and the values it takes are sess-limit per-src-ip <number>
Probably you can do something similar in one of the open source dd-wrt platforms. There's an interesting discussion of advanced config of those at http://markmaunder.com/2011/01/26/h...-your-room-mate-or-bad-office-colleague-uses/ - but it doesn't cover sessions, but rather total per-address or per-network bandwidth. (Which I've also had set up to deal with aftv chewing up everything it can when I need to have a few hundred low-latency kilobits to reach the office - it's challenging to apply QoS to inbound, simpler to drop everything over a cap that's trying to reach a host. I unset those rules before trying xbmctorrent.)
I have the impression that xbmctorrent, at least, has its own torrent client built in. And although I've seen a configuration in the system / network menus that lets you define a proxy for xbmc to use, I haven't seen a similar config for global torrent settings.
Many standalone torrent clients have a lot of controls over maximum connections, in addition to upload/download speeds, etc.
I haven't looked to see whether a standalone torrent client, or one of the various torrent plugins for xbmc, might be able to give one systemwide control over session initiation, session timeout and session number - applying some settings that xbmctorrent would need to respect, in essence.
I suspect that they'd make it harder to use if they were able to control those things, though - xbmctorrent is doing something pretty unusual: it's polling a swarm of peers (into the thousands) and asking not just 'who has the file' but 'who has this specific piece of the file starting at time X'
It would be nice if those kinds of advanced network settings were available in the configuration of one of these video on demand torrent clients, though
I have a FTV rooted with many sideloaded apps including xbmc launcher, XPosed and many more. I am running 13.1 xbmc. It runs everything great! It runs everything very smoothly! I really love my modded FTV! I just have one issue I need your help with. I have one channel from within LIVE TV that will not open and play correctly! I have WMC and ServerWMC as my back end on my desktop. WMC on my desktop opens and plays every channel perfectly. Even the XBMC on the same desktop as WMC will open up every channel properly and playback flawlessly. But, on my wired ethernet connected FTV client with 13.1 I have one Live TV channel that will not open properly. It starts with a blank screen with audio playing. Then after about thirty seconds in, the audio will stop too. Then if I open up full screen I get a scrambled mess of a picture. It isn't even a scrambled mess of the live tv picture. It looks like some other XBMC screen! It will only happen on the same one channel. Every other channel opens up quickly and plays flawless 1080p. I have mediacodec disabled as mentioned in other threads, but it still happens on this channel about 90% of the time.
The PVR developer had me disable the automatic deletion of the temp ServerWMC files so I could try to play the muxed files through my SMB share. I recreated the problem and then tried to play the files from the temp ServerWMC file thru my shares. Even when I try to play these .TS and .WTV files thru the share I get the same scrambled mess. I did this same thing with a channel that works perfect and the files played just as if watching from the Live TV menu. If I play the problem .TS and .WTV files on my XBMC on my desktop with WMC they play perfect. He can't figure it out so of course I can't either. There has to be something just not decoding these files from this one channel on the FTV correctly. It is wierd that it will work some 10% of the time!!! I have also tried 13.2, ouya SPMC with the same results. If any of you smart people out there have any ideas I am ready to listen. Luckily it is not a major network channel like ABC or CBS so this is definitely not a deal breaker, but would be great for all the channels to work! Cheers.
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I have a FTV rooted with many sideloaded apps including xbmc launcher, XPosed and many more. I am running 13.1 xbmc. It runs everything great! It runs everything very smoothly! I really love my modded FTV! I just have one issue I need your help with. I have one channel from within LIVE TV that will not open and play correctly! I have WMC and ServerWMC as my back end on my desktop. WMC on my desktop opens and plays every channel perfectly. Even the XBMC on the same desktop as WMC will open up every channel properly and playback flawlessly. But, on my wired ethernet connected FTV client with 13.1 I have one Live TV channel that will not open properly. It starts with a blank screen with audio playing. Then after about thirty seconds in, the audio will stop too. Then if I open up full screen I get a scrambled mess of a picture. It isn't even a scrambled mess of the live tv picture. It looks like some other XBMC screen! It will only happen on the same one channel. Every other channel opens up quickly and plays flawless 1080p. I have mediacodec disabled as mentioned in other threads, but it still happens on this channel about 90% of the time.
The PVR developer had me disable the automatic deletion of the temp ServerWMC files so I could try to play the muxed files through my SMB share. I recreated the problem and then tried to play the files from the temp ServerWMC file thru my shares. Even when I try to play these .TS and .WTV files thru the share I get the same scrambled mess. I did this same thing with a channel that works perfect and the files played just as if watching from the Live TV menu. If I play the problem .TS and .WTV files on my XBMC on my desktop with WMC they play perfect. He can't figure it out so of course I can't either. There has to be something just not decoding these files from this one channel on the FTV correctly. It is wierd that it will work some 10% of the time!!! I have also tried 13.2, ouya SPMC with the same results. If any of you smart people out there have any ideas I am ready to listen. Luckily it is not a major network channel like ABC or CBS so this is definitely not a deal breaker, but would be great for all the channels to work! Cheers.
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I know little to nothing about these PVR formats, but I'll throw this out there. Since you say it works 10% of the time, perhaps it's related to the current state of the Fire TV. Meaning, which apps are still in memory. I know the Netflix app has major issues if XBMC is, for example, paused on a video and still in memory.
See if force quitting all other apps and rebooting makes it play more reliably.
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I know little to nothing about these PVR formats, but I'll throw this out there. Since you say it works 10% of the time, perhaps it's related to the current state of the Fire TV. Meaning, which apps are still in memory. I know the Netflix app has major issues if XBMC is, for example, paused on a video and still in memory.
See if force quitting all other apps and rebooting makes it play more reliably.
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I went ahead a tried your suggestion of force closing all my other android apps on my FTV and rebooting. You know what it seems to have helped! I have been able to open up that one troublesome Live Tv channel over ten times in a row since then. It is so weird that it only effects one Live TV channel out of the bunch. I really appreciate your suggestion. Seems to be a good temp fix for now!!!!!!
If anyone has any ideas on a permanent fix I am still all ears! Cheers and thanks for your time!
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I went ahead a tried your suggestion of force closing all my other android apps on my FTV and rebooting. You know what it seems to have helped! I have been able to open up that one troublesome Live Tv channel over ten times in a row since then. It is so weird that it only effects one Live TV channel out of the bunch. I really appreciate your suggestion. Seems to be a good temp fix for now!!!!!!
If anyone has any ideas on a permanent fix I am still all ears! Cheers and thanks for your time!
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Great to hear. Glad I could help!
The Fire TV seems to handle resources a bit inefficiently. I've found that usually when an app is "on and off" working, it's because something is running in the background.
Again, I don't know much about those file formats, but perhaps that one channel is just more difficult to decode then the rest (e.g., higher bitrate or more action). Since force quitting apps worked, it seems like the Fire TV isn't powerful enough for that stream. I think your only permanent fix will be to either reduce that channels quality some how, or find (sideload) an app that can decode it more efficiently.
I just got a few more fire tv sticks and wanted to give them to some friends so I backed up my original spmc with the ulitity app then restored it to another stick. Everything seems to be there but a lot of the meta data hasn't loaded that accompanies movies or it seems to be slowly loading. I am using the Eminence skin which is really heavy on meta data and poster art so this is really apparent. I was wondering is there a way to refresh this stuff once i've done a restore so it acts like the original with very snappy cover art loading? It seems like it is slowly gathering metadata as i use the device more and more even tho its already on the drive. I have tried updating my library and even reimporting stuff from trakt makes no real difference.
I've not used this on a Firetv but on the appleTV when copying backedup XBMC to a new device I had to reset ownership/permissions. I did this by SSHing (using putty) to the ATV2 and running the following command:
chown -R mobile:mobile /private/var/mobile/Library/Preferences/XBMC/
I'm not rooted so I have no idea if the directories are the same between the FTV and the ATV, so that may have to be adjusted.
NOTE: please check out this command for the FTV, I only used this on a ATV and it fixed problems.
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I've not used this on a Firetv but on the appleTV when copying backedup XBMC to a new device I had to reset ownership/permissions. I did this by SSHing (using putty) to the ATV2 and running the following command:
chown -R mobile:mobile /private/var/mobile/Library/Preferences/XBMC/
I'm not rooted so I have no idea if the directories are the same between the FTV and the ATV, so that may have to be adjusted.
NOTE: please check out this command for the FTV, I only used this on a ATV and it fixed problems.
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Is there a way to do this on xbmc gui? The fire stick can't be rooted so I can't ssh anything.
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Is there a way to do this on xbmc gui? The fire stick can't be rooted so I can't ssh anything.
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I forgot that the Fire stick isn't rooted yet.
You wrote you used the utility app to backup, was that app "XBMC Backup? If not, try it.
No I meant the actual firetv utility app where you can sideload apps etc. my problem is not loading my backup as I've already done that successfully it is that the meta data seems to be loading progressively overtime. Since posting this I am just now seeing most of my cover art from my library movies appear. Still some are losing slowly.
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No I meant the actual firetv utility app where you can sideload apps etc. my problem is not loading my backup as I've already done that successfully it is that the meta data seems to be loading progressively overtime. Since posting this I am just now seeing most of my cover art from my library movies appear. Still some are losing slowly.
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Big library's can take forever to load.. Seems mostly an issue on android only... Might be scraper server load related.. But it's something that is known and common so don't worry about it..
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Big library's can take forever to load.. Seems mostly an issue on android only... Might be scraper server load related.. But it's something that is known and common so don't worry about it..
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This has been over the course of a day and my library is only about 50 or so movies. But the original fire stick that I am copying this from has no lag issues with my library.
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This has been over the course of a day and my library is only about 50 or so movies. But the original fire stick that I am copying this from has no lag issues with my library.
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I found restarting xbmc helped speed it up again. Xbmc.org is a better place to ask for xbmc specific help where u might get more answers. I don't think it's fire stick related tho
Yea I didn't think it was firestick related I just figured I'd ask as it seems to be happening as a result of using the root software to restore a backup.
Weird, I didn't know what else to do so I uninstalled spmc, reinstalled it then reloaded my backup and now everything works smooth just thought i'd let you guys know.
Dear Smart People,
I current have a a 2 TB HD and a 1 TB HD in a jbod setup going to my airport extreme (older model). The drives are both formatted with mac os x journaled since thats what the airport supports. When I launch xbmc it takes between a minute to 4 minutes to load certain files. It streams fine from 1channel and other online sources. I have tried running a cat 5 cable to the fire tv from the router and that still has slow load times. I have gone so far as to buy a new HD enclosure. I need your guys help to figure out why the load times are so bad. Any ideas will defiantly be helpful.
Best Regards,
Josh
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alright guys,
after hours of testing I realized if I got thru the video tab then to files and play my file thru there it loads very very quickly. I was hoping someone could shed some light on the fact that if I got thru the TV Shows tab of confluence it takes a long time to load. I really could use some help since I am stumped. Can't wait to see what people say!
Josh
How are you adding files -- smb share, UPnP?
they are connected to an airport extreme using the AFP file sharing. this worked perfectly on my ATV. I have done some internet research and have found out that the database maybe corrupt after it scans the files in since it loads very fast from the files menu. Please let me know how to fix this. I have a pastebin with my log file
UPDATE:
I have changed the location of the files to use SMB and now it appears to be working very well. Thank you so much for everyones help!
I have spent about 3 weeks with my Fire TV now and have scoured the internet for a solution but have had no luck thus far. Out of all my research thought this forum seem to have the most relevant answers, thus why I am posting here and hopefully somebody will be able to assist before I get rid of it.
First I can stream movies and television shows on Netflix and XBMC with no problems, running Kodi 14.1.
When I try and stream a movie or television show from my Windows server I get a very annoying stutter/jitter when both wired and wireless.
This happens with 720p or 1080p. I do not get any dropped or skipped frames while running codecinfo.
I have changed the video acceleration and playback settings numerous times with no luck. ie. hardware, software video acceleration, libstagefright, mediacodec etc. messed with audio and several other things that I found suggested on the internet.
Now prior to this I ran everything wireless over a WDTV with no issues at all, video nive and smooth. Should I just give up on the Fire TV and go back to the WDTV?
Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks.
I had similar issues. Did you try SPMC instead of Kodi? Also, you might want to try using a advancedsetings.xml file to correctly set the caching and read-ahead.
EDIT: Here's mine for Kodi 14.1:
Code:
<!-- tuxen -->
<advancedsettings>
<network>
<curlclienttimeout>45</curlclienttimeout>
<cachemembuffersize>104857600</cachemembuffersize>
<readbufferfactor>10</readbufferfactor>
</network>
<gui>
<algorithmdirtyregions>3</algorithmdirtyregions>
<nofliptimeout>0</nofliptimeout>
</gui>
<videoscanner>
<ignoreerrors>true</ignoreerrors>
</videoscanner>
</advancedsettings>
How are the videos shared from your Windows server? What protocol are you using?
Have you tried a different protocol? I use SMB from my Win7 machine to FireTV and it's always worked well.
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How are the videos shared from your Windows server? What protocol are you using?
Have you tried a different protocol? I use SMB from my Win7 machine to FireTV and it's always worked well.
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I had some issues with stuttering as well. I changed my router and the new one did not support Samba, so I switched to NFS and things got better. I still occasionally get a buffering break now, but I can't be sure if it was the new router or NFS. Everything I've read is that NFS is much faster than Samba.
Thank you all for your answers.
Sizzlechest; as for the advancedsetings.xml I did set that with other setting I found on the internet, I will give yours a try. Can someone tell me if I can edit my existing advancedsettings.xml and if so how? or do I just create a new one and push it to my Fire TV
As for what protocol I'm using on my windows server I'm not sure. I am accessing it via samba share on my fire tv, I couldn't seem to find the server using NFS, but will try it again.
It's a Windows Homer Server with Power Pack 3 2009
on an Acer Aspire Easystore.
I've read that SPMC is better on the Fire TV then KODI and have planned to try it, I just need to find some install instructions for it on the Fire TV, I have some computer background but am fairly new to the XBMC scene.
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Thank you all for your answers.
Sizzlechest; as for the advancedsetings.xml I did set that with other setting I found on the internet, I will give yours a try. Can someone tell me if I can edit my existing advancedsettings.xml and if so how? or do I just create a new one and push it to my Fire TV.
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There won't be an advancedsettings.xml file on a regular install. It has to be added.
Ok here is another strange one.
I brought the fire tv to my basement and hooked it up to me Epson Power Lite Home Cinema. I do not have a wired connection here so I had to run it wireless. Well it played everything perfectly!
What I was playing on before was a Sony KDL EX-500, could my TV be the problem?
This makes no sense to me, it's it something to do with the refresh rate of the tv, or a possible setting in the tv?
Ok I solved the problem .....My Sony TV has a feature called Cinemotion. I had played with the Motionflow both on and off and that didn't help the problem. Turns out Cinemotion was on and this is what was causing the stutter with XBMC. It had nothing to do with Fire TV and XBMC like I had thought and spent the last week blaming....thanks again for your help.
Cheers