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ROM Manager, CWM & Backing Up / Restoring

I have the latest ROM Manager (5.0.1.5) and the latest CWM (5.8.4.9) installed and am a little confused about backing and restoring. When I used RM/CWM on my old EVO 4G it was very straight forward but doesn't seem to be the case with my new GS3.
When I use RM to backup my current ROM, it seems to be successful but doesn't show up in the list of backups when I go to RM and click on "Manage and Restore Backups". However, if I go into Recovery I can find it by navigating to backup and restore. I'm assuming the problem is that RM automatically backs up to my external SDCard while RM only reads from the internal SDCard. I was able to manually backup to the internal SDCard from Recovery and it shows up in the list in RM but the date & time are all messed up (not to mention I can't rename it in Recovery).
I suppose it's not impossible to use but it seems "messy" to me. How is everyone dealing with this?
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Also how do you manage the backups via Recovery? I now have 6 backups that I made via RM which ended up in the external SDCard but I can't seem to delete them in Recovery. I'm also not sure where they are when I browse in FTP as there is nothing under the clockworkmod directory.

CWM is fastly becoming old school, do some searching for installing TWRP using goomanager. It is an awesome recovery tool with many, many new features not found in CWM.

evoer said:
CWM is fastly becoming old school, do some searching for installing TWRP using goomanager. It is an awesome recovery tool with many, many new features not found in CWM.
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Twrp is good for backups and being able to run commands but is definatly missing some features.ROM manager has gone to hell but there is an option in settings for using external storage. Ur backups are in clockworkmod/backups. And you can rename ur backups qhile in cwm recovery w/ this. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1646108. And if ur gna use twrp, get it from their site and flash in mobile odin. Goo manager sucks and its interface is confusing. Takes an hour to find **** in there. An accident waiting to happen

Thanks for the recommendation. So far so good.
billard412 said:
Ur backups are in clockworkmod/backups.
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That's what I figured but the directory is empty even though CWM shows at least 3 backups

woshiweili said:
Thanks for the recommendation. So far so good.
That's what I figured but the directory is empty even though CWM shows at least 3 backups
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That's odd did you check internal and external?

billard412 said:
That's odd did you check internal and external?
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I see what it is. I was accessing it through the app, FTP Server and that app can only read internal SDcard, where the backups are not located.
Thanks for your help.
I'm now all TWRP'ed up and so far it is nice.
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Under "Wipe" in TWRP I see Cache, Dalvik Cache, Factory Reset, System, External Storage, Internal Storage and Format Data.
Normally when I flash a new ROM with CWM I would wipe data, cache & dalvik cache. With TWP, when I click on Format Data, it says this wipes all media, including backups & removes encryption. Is that right? Or do I wipe System, which says "This will wipe your ROM"? Thanks.

Full cleaning method ...

Hi every, I want to make a FULL cleaning of my phone because I want to install a fresh ROM. I use Wipe data/factory and also wipe cache partition (CWM 6.0.1.1) and repeat several times but surprise I install the new ROM all the old settings was there meaning games data, google emails, sms messages, why? Exists any better method to clean all the old data for leave the new ROM clean install?
Cheers and thanks in advance

reynierpm said:
Hi every, I want to make a FULL cleaning of my phone because I want to install a fresh ROM. I use Wipe data/factory and also wipe cache partition (CWM 6.0.1.1) and repeat several times but surprise I install the new ROM all the old settings was there meaning games data, google emails, sms messages, why? Exists any better method to clean all the old data for leave the new ROM clean install?
Cheers and thanks in advance
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The steps to a clean flash are:
-wipe cache
-wipe dalvik
-make backup (just in case)
-wipe data/factory reset
-format system (under mounts/storage)
-flash ROM
-flash gapps
-reboot
-ENJOY
Hope that helps.
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I can't find where "wipe dalvik" is

reynierpm said:
I can't find where "wipe dalvik" is
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Under advanced.

reynierpm said:
I can't find where "wipe dalvik" is
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it's under advanced in CWM

Lock the bootloader and then root again. This will wipe EVERYTHING!! I repeat, EVERYTHING will be erased. ALL OF YOUR DATA will be gone!
That is the only way to ensure you won't have traces of anything left over.
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z06mike said:
Lock the bootloader and then root again. This will wipe EVERYTHING!! I repeat, EVERYTHING will be erased. ALL OF YOUR DATA will be gone!
That is the only way to ensure you won't have traces of anything left over.
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What you wrote is misleading.
"Rooting" does not wipe anything.
Unlocking the bootloader will wipe data, but that's it. It will not erase /system, /boot, or /cache.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2

Just curious. Have you un-checked Settings -> Backup & reset -> Automatic restore?

Lol.. if you want a functional wipe then do my steps. It was needed with the incredible.
CWM - 6.
1.) Wipe data/Factory reset
2.) Mounts & Storage > Format SYSTEM - make sure it's SYSTEM and not Sdcard.
This helps clean the residue left from other roms
3.) Use superwipe if needed or just want to use it
4.) Flash Rom, gapps
5.) Wipe cache/dalvik if given instructions to.
Those are the proper wiping methods.
If your doing a flash over -
1.) Wipe cache and dalvik
2.) Install Rom and if necessary gapps
3.) Fix permissions?
Reboot
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withbloodskies said:
Lol.. if you want a full wipe then do my steps. It was needed with the incredible.
CWM - 6.
1.) Wipe data/Factory reset
2.) Mounts & Storage > Format SYSTEM - make sure it's SYSTEM and not Sdcard.
This helps clean the residue left from other roms
3.) Use superwipe if needed or just want to use it
4.) Flash Rom, gapps
5.) Wipe cache/dalvik if given instructions to.
Those are the proper wiping methods.
If your doing a flash over -
1.) Wipe cache and dalvik
2.) Install Rom and if necessary gapps
3.) Fix permissions?
Reboot
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Even that doesn't do a complete wipe, as it doesn't wipe the kernel, nor does it wipe the data in /sdcard (in which some apps store their settings).
If you want to fully wipe, transfer the files/data you want to keep to your PC, reboot into fastboot mode and type:
fastboot erase system
fastboot erase boot
fastboot erase userdata
fastboot erase cache
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efrant said:
Even that doesn't do a complete wipe, as it doesn't wipe the kernel, nor does it wipe the data in /sdcard (in which some apps store their settings).
If you want to fully wipe, transfer the files/data you want to keep to your PC, reboot into fastboot mode and type:
fastboot erase system
fastboot erase boot
fastboot erase userdata
fastboot erase cache
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Don't think boot is an option in CWM "dunno why" lol, I suppose if you wanted to go through those steps
CWM should add a few more options such as those.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2

[Q] where to place custom rom and gapps to install?

I'm about to install PARANOIDANDROID http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1818199&highlight=i747 to my samsung galaxy s3 (i747) but i'm not sure where I should place the downloaded rom and GAPPS zip files?
From my understanding, I need to follow these steps but if I wipe cache, delvik, data factory reset, and format system.. wouldn't that delete the rom file and gapps and then wouldn't know how to get them back to the phone..
1- Download ROM and Gapps to internal sd card
2- Boot phone into recovery
3- WIPE Cache/Delvik/Data factory reset> Mounts and Storage- format system
4- Flash ROM and Gapps
5- Let phone boot, set up google Play and reboot phone (To be done right, this whole process should take 10 - 15 minutes)

Nope, if you follow the instructions you should be fine.

DarthDerron said:
Nope, if you follow the instructions you should be fine.
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Well, I simply downloaded the files from my computer and was going to transfer them to my phone via the micro usb cable..
Is it safe to place them in phone -> clockworkmod folder then follow the steps I posted above?
Thank you

promidgetmafia said:
Well, I simply downloaded the files from my computer and was going to transfer them to my phone via the micro usb cable..
Is it safe to place them in phone -> clockworkmod folder then follow the steps I posted above?
Thank you
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Just put it in the root directory of your internal, it doesn't really matter where you put it though.... with CWM you can navigate through folders.
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promidgetmafia said:
I'm about to install PARANOIDANDROID http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1818199&highlight=i747 to my samsung galaxy s3 (i747) but i'm not sure where I should place the downloaded rom and GAPPS zip files?
From my understanding, I need to follow these steps but if I wipe cache, delvik, data factory reset, and format system.. wouldn't that delete the rom file and gapps and then wouldn't know how to get them back to the phone..
1- Download ROM and Gapps to internal sd card
2- Boot phone into recovery
3- WIPE Cache/Delvik/Data factory reset> Mounts and Storage- format system
4- Flash ROM and Gapps
5- Let phone boot, set up google Play and reboot phone (To be done right, this whole process should take 10 - 15 minutes)
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Use goomanager to download the roms and latest gapps.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using xda premium

Noob questions

1. What is the difference between the following terms: adb. fastboot, bootloader, recovery.
I understood a bit from efrant's thread but I still need some more clarity.
Correct me if I'm wrong - ADB is a mode which can be accessed by either booting into recovery or booting normally into android. and FASTBOOT is a mode which can be accessed by booting into the bootloader.
A key question still remains in my mind - what is the difference between booting into bootloader and booting into recovery?
2. How do I open command prompt in a specific folder? The instructions listed in efrant's thread don't work in Windows 7.
3. I can flash PA as long as I have an unlocked bootloader even if device is not unrooted?
4. Where do I get the fastboot.exe file and adb files (the .exe and two .dll files for Windows) being talked about in efrant's thread and what are they used for?
5. Are custom ROMs flashed to system partition?
6. Do I use ChainsDD's Superuser, or Chainfire's SuperSU?
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Efrant's thread: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29733879#post29733879

TheMysteriousOne said:
1. What is the difference between the following terms: adb. fastboot, bootloader, recovery.
I understood a bit from efrant's thread but I still need some more clarity.
Correct me if I'm wrong - ADB is a mode which can be accessed by either booting into recovery or booting normally into android. and FASTBOOT is a mode which can be accessed by booting into the bootloader.
A key question still remains in my mind - what is the difference between booting into bootloader and booting into recovery?
2. How do I open command prompt in a specific folder? The instructions listed in efrant's thread don't work in Windows 7.
3. I can flash PA as long as I have an unlocked bootloader even if device is not unrooted?
4. Where do I get the fastboot.exe file and adb files (the .exe and two .dll files for Windows) being talked about in efrant's thread and what are they used for?
5. Are custom ROMs flashed to system partition?
6. Do I use ChainsDD's Superuser, or Chainfire's SuperSU?
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Efrant's thread: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29733879#post29733879
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1. The bootloader is Google's interface for flashing the phone with stock images. Recovery (stock) is used to flash OTAs & perform a Factory reset.
3. You need a custom recovery (either TWRP or CWM) to flash a custom ROM, your phone does not need to be rooted.
4. Look for efrant's (stickied) return to stock thread in the general section, it has the needed fastboot & adb files attached to the OP.
5. Yes & they also generally include a kernel (some have a stock kernel some use a custom)
6. AFAIK Chainfire's SuperSU is more reliable ATM on Jelly Bean.

http://wiki.rootzwiki.com/Android_SDK
That's the link I used to set up adb. Just make sure you get the nexus drivers set up right. To test it when you think you've got it all set up, make sure you have adb debugging checked in developer options, plug your phone in, open command prompt and type adb devices. It should spit out a line of numbers. If it's blank that means the phone drivers aren't set up right. If you want to test it further you can try an adb push command.

Where are Nandroid backups stored? Are the backups still there after a factory reset?
Where are Titanium backups stored? Are the backups still there after a factory reset?

Using adb you choose where to store your nandroids.
For titanium open the app and it shows where on the main screen.
Don't forget to thank those who helped
Edit: backups remain as long you don't wipe internal or external storage

namtombout said:
Using adb you choose where to store your nandroids.
For titanium open the app and it shows where on the main screen.
Don't forget to thank those who helped
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But where do I store the backups so that I can access them even after a factory reset?
Does a factory reset delete everything literally?

TheMysteriousOne said:
But where do I store the backups so that I can access them even after a factory reset?
Does a factory reset delete everything literally?
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/sdcard/clockwordmod/backup -- copy the whole folder with the date and time on it. replace it in the same location if you want to restore from it
edit: for titanium backup, copy the whole folder on the root of your sdcard labelled "titaniumbackup"

Create a folder named nandroid in your internal storage.
Factory reset won't wipe any of your files in your internal storage.

namtombout said:
Using adb you choose where to store your nandroids.
For titanium open the app and it shows where on the main screen.
Don't forget to thank those who helped
Edit: backups remain as long you don't wipe internal or external storage
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I don't think you understood what I was trying to say.
Suppose I make a Nandroid backup now and then perform a factory reset. Will that nandroid backup still be a available on the phone?

TheMysteriousOne said:
But where do I store the backups so that I can access them even after a factory reset?
Does a factory reset delete everything literally?
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I am on CM10.1 and the backup I made with CWM was stored in data/media/clockworkmod/backup. Its an odd location but I have done factory resets in order to install other ROMs and the backup remains. And a factory reset does not wipe the Internal storage. A factory reset pretty much just resets the system files back to stock. The only thing you really lose is your apps. All your personal files (pictures/videos/etc.) are left alone.

namtombout said:
Create a folder named nandroid in your internal storage.
Factory reset won't wipe any of your files in your internal storage.
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Then what exactly does a factory reset do - what do I lose in a factory reset?
And if factory reset doesn't wipe everything, what does?

jsgraphicart said:
And a factory reset does not wipe the Internal storage. A factory reset pretty much just resets the system files back to stock. The only thing you really lose is your apps. All your personal files (pictures/videos/etc.) are left alone.
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I use twrp recovery. Wiping internal or external storage wipes everything

namtombout said:
I use twrp recovery. Wiping internal or external storage wipes everything
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But a simple factory reset doesnt wipe the internal storage. There may be options in there to do so but I thought we were just talking about a factory reset.

TheMysteriousOne said:
Then what exactly does a factory reset do - what do I lose in a factory reset?
And if factory reset doesn't wipe everything, what does?
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its simple.
Factory reset wipes /data (where all your play store/side loaded apps and data (app settings, etc) are stored)
and /cache
it does not touch the /data/media which is your internal storage. since there is no external storage on the nexus, there is nothing to worry about there
/system does not get touched unless you flash a new rom or wipe it manually from recovery
if you wipe /system, you better have another rom to flash in its place....or the phone wont boot into the OS, because /system contains the OS

TheMysteriousOne said:
Then what exactly does a factory reset do - what do I lose in a factory reset?
And if factory reset doesn't wipe everything, what does?
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Are you asking because you WANT to wipe everything or are you afraid of losing stuff?

You Sir are correct. Just quoted you to help answer op questions.

namtombout said:
Create a folder named nandroid in your internal storage.
Factory reset won't wipe any of your files in your internal storage.
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Note: nandroid backups get created on /sdcard aka /data/media.
TheMysteriousOne said:
I don't think you understood what I was trying to say.
Suppose I make a Nandroid backup now and then perform a factory reset. Will that nandroid backup still be a available on the phone?
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Answered by the poster above, thank him. I corrected him, as well.
TheMysteriousOne said:
Then what exactly does a factory reset do - what do I lose in a factory reset?
And if factory reset doesn't wipe everything, what does?
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Answered below.
jsgraphicart said:
But a simple factory reset doesnt wipe the internal storage. There may be options in there to do so but I thought we were just talking about a factory reset.
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Pirateghost said:
its simple.
Factory reset wipes /data (where all your play store/side loaded apps and data (app settings, etc) are stored)
and /cache
it does not touch the /data/media which is your internal storage. since there is no external storage on the nexus, there is nothing to worry about there
/system does not get touched unless you flash a new rom or wipe it manually from recovery
if you wipe /system, you better have another rom to flash in its place....or the phone wont boot into the OS, because /system contains the OS
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There's an option in twrp at least, that allows to format the internal storage. if you do it by accident or need a fresh start/don't care about the data, of course you'll need to know how to use adb to push stuff back to it, previously pulled from it to the PC.
What I'm saying is that it only matters as much as you care about your data stored up until that point. I keep regular, tarball backups of /data/media in my PC.
Sent from my i9250

So, Nandroid backs up all 13 partitions?
Note: nandroid backups get created on /sdcard aka /data/media.
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What is this /data/media that you talk about?
I read that Nandroid backup gets stored on /sdcard/clockworkmod/backup
Edit: Also, http://www.vikitech.com/10347/perform-nandroid-backup-restore-android-device says "A point to note here is that your SD Card data is not backed up."

TheMysteriousOne said:
So, Nandroid backs up all 13 partitions?
What is this /data/media that you talk about?
I read that Nandroid backup gets stored on /sdcard/clockworkmod/backup
Edit: Also, http://www.vikitech.com/10347/perform-nandroid-backup-restore-android-device says "A point to note here is that your SD Card data is not backed up."
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The backup will be in either location. Some phones put it on the sd card. I just recently got a Nexus and found out it was backed up to data/media/clcockworkmod/backup. To get to that location, you need a root browser. I use Root Explorer and love it. Once you get one, you can go to the root directory of your phone and start going into each folder data/media/clockworkmod/backup.

/data/media/ is the same as /sdcard/
You must backup your own sdcard. Adb push /data/media to a computer

Twrp showing weird name of internal storage folder

hi,
I bought a new redmi note 8 phone, unlocked the bootloader, installed TWRP .
Everything worked fine, until now. Now I want to backup my current modified stock ROM, but TWRP failes.
I got the problem very fast: TWRP can read all files and folders on the microSD car, but not in the internal storage folder.
Everything can be read by TWRP, except the sdcard folder.
Here he only shows strange names
something like:
Quote:
2h8P9lGY8I1A884LMsBjaA
2u+nb0LdBNopRSa5LehsvB
75aTrCvYkWG+R+lrcRz6WA
DcwYkwSKokq8Rm5lYc4YYC
Please help me

Reboot to recovery again and decrypt phone

eric00x said:
Reboot to recovery again and decrypt phone
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How to decrypt permanent without losing data?

Ahmad5544 said:
How to decrypt permanent without losing data?
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to decrypt phone :
Make sure you have a backup of your data copied in PC.
- In TWRP go to Wipe and select Format Data(don't go to advanced). Type yes and format data. [This process will format all your internal so make sure your data is backed up].
- Go back to TWRP home and Reboot > Recovery (Don't reboot system).
- Flash this zip.
- Reboot > System.
unfortunately there's no way to decrypt without losing data. Also if you're on a decrypted device then you have to format data everytime you flash any rom or update your current miui rom..I suggest using orangefox recovery to prevent this in future. Follow this guide for orangefox recovery.