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Coming from a 4.2 version of PAC-ROM I wanted to upgrade to the 4.3 version.
I am using TWRP for my recovery mod to install the 4.3 nightlies from the [ROM] [4.3] [OFFICIAL] [Nightlies] [d2tmo] PAC-Man AIO. The issue is I can download the 4.3 gapps and the 4.3 nightly and install them fine. The phone reboots and I get to set it up like normal. However there is no phone service. So I try to reboot the phone after rebooting it will sometimes boot and have service but most of the time it will just hang on the boot load screen with the blue logo. I have tried every combination of wipe and format. I don't have anything I am trying to save on this phone so I don't care if I lose anything.
Can anyone explain what I am doing wrong? I have no issue installing any older version and other roms seem to work great. I just love the PAC-ROM.
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Coming from a 4.2 version of PAC-ROM I wanted to upgrade to the 4.3 version.
I am using TWRP for my recovery mod to install the 4.3 nightlies from the [ROM] [4.3] [OFFICIAL] [Nightlies] [d2tmo] PAC-Man AIO. The issue is I can download the 4.3 gapps and the 4.3 nightly and install them fine. The phone reboots and I get to set it up like normal. However there is no phone service. So I try to reboot the phone after rebooting it will sometimes boot and have service but most of the time it will just hang on the boot load screen with the blue logo. I have tried every combination of wipe and format. I don't have anything I am trying to save on this phone so I don't care if I lose anything.
Can anyone explain what I am doing wrong? I have no issue installing any older version and other roms seem to work great. I just love the PAC-ROM.
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You answered your own question. I might suggest using the last stable 4.2.2 release of it?
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You answered your own question. I might suggest using the last stable 4.2.2 release of it?
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I understand, but why wouldn't it work on a clean phone? It works on some phone and not on others? I just like to have an idea of why and if it is possible to make it work.
Thanks
creeksideweb said:
I understand, but why wouldn't it work on a clean phone? It works on some phone and not on others? I just like to have an idea of why and if it is possible to make it work.
Thanks
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I think you already know the answer but don't want to accept it. It's most likely an unusable buggy mess like every other 4.3 ROM. I really don't understand how people can use these as DD. 4.2 was pretty bad when it was first released (4.2.1?). Calls wouldn't come through sometimes, couldn't make outgoing calls sometimes. It got a lot better in the end. Except that you had to have a custom kernel to keep the battery drain in check. Anyhow, 4.3 is 10x worse than 4.2 on it's worst day. Half the time, your IMEI or baseband is unknown. This means no calls and no internet. Why put up with it? For what? I love AOSP, but issues like this are ultimately the reason I'm using Dandroid now.
If you have a T999, and the ROM is specifically built for the T999, you can't fix it. Because the problem isn't on your end. It's not what you want to hear but it's the truth.
Hi,
I've flashed PA many times before on my Nexus 4, and I was using PA 3.99 before I decided to try using CM11 (cause kitkat). Well, CM11 worked fine, but I wanted to go back to PA, however, when I tried flashing the rom, it took much longer than usual, and then when my phone finally booted up, neither the sound nor the wifi would work. I first noticed this when the phone was setting up, as the second thing a new android phone asks you to do is to turn on your wifi. My phone just said "turing on wifi" for a good five minutes until I skipped it. Once I finally finished setting the phone up, I tried turing up the sound but it wouldn't work. Of course, I can't really use my phone if the sound won't work at all, so I decided to flash CM11 again, and then everything was working properly. Since then I've tried PA and CM again, AOKP, and PAC rom, but CM is the only one that worked for my phone. The sound and wifi didn't work on any of the other three roms. If anybody could help, that'd be great!! Otherwise I'll have to stick to CM11 even though I'd like to go back to PA.
SOLUTION FOUND
For anyone with a similar issue: My problem was that I was running CM11, which uses android 4.4, so it seemed that the issue was caused by flashing to a rom that used an earlier version of android. I solved the problem by unrooting my phone and reverting back to 4.2. Then I rooted the device again and flashed PA 3.99, then everything was fine.
noahajohnson said:
Hi,
I've flashed PA many times before on my Nexus 4, and I was using PA 3.99 before I decided to try using CM11 (cause kitkat). Well, CM11 worked fine, but I wanted to go back to PA, however, when I tried flashing the rom, it took much longer than usual, and then when my phone finally booted up, neither the sound nor the wifi would work. I first noticed this when the phone was setting up, as the second thing a new android phone asks you to do is to turn on your wifi. My phone just said "turing on wifi" for a good five minutes until I skipped it. Once I finally finished setting the phone up, I tried turing up the sound but it wouldn't work. Of course, I can't really use my phone if the sound won't work at all, so I decided to flash CM11 again, and then everything was working properly. Since then I've tried PA and CM again, AOKP, and PAC rom, but CM is the only one that worked for my phone. The sound and wifi didn't work on any of the other three roms. If anybody could help, that'd be great!! Otherwise I'll have to stick to CM11 even though I'd like to go back to PA.
SOLUTION FOUND
For anyone with a similar issue: My problem was that I was running CM11, which uses android 4.4, so it seemed that the issue was caused by flashing to a rom that used an earlier version of android. I solved the problem by unrooting my phone and reverting back to 4.2. Then I rooted the device again and flashed PA 3.99, then everything was fine.
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Thank you !!!
it's Work !
Specs for my phone:
Verizon LG G2 VS980
Kitkat 4.4.2
Rooted
Note: You'll notice that I put the names of webpages because I'm not allowed to put the actual links. To find them, just search them on Google
My rooted LG G2 was working perfectly fine. My friends has a Galaxy S III, and installed cyanogenmod successfully onto his phone. Wanting to install cyanogenmod onto my phone, I attempted to download the Cyanogenmod 11 snapshot, the 6th download on the cyanogenmod wiki page for installing onto the LG G2 VS980. I then wiped everything on my phone EXCEPT for the Internal SD using Team Win Recovery (TWRP). Then, I flashed the cyanogenmod zip file onto my phone, and rebooted it. I followed everything this youtube video, called: "Install CyanogenMod 11 / Android 4.4 KitKat custom ROM using TWRP" said to do. However, when I rebooted it, it got stuck in a bootloop, and I the button combinations to reboot into recovery do not work. I have come to the conclusion that I installed a version of cyanogenmod that doesn't work. I want to know if there's anything I can do to get my phone working again, and if so, what.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks!
Q&A for [ROM] [4.4.4] SlimKat (d2tmo) Stable 7.0
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Does this weekly fix the inverted Tilting ? temple run does and other apps that require accurate tilting do not work correctly doodle jump is affected to. I don't think a bug report should be done since it is so easy to test and it was a clean flash from the first 8.0?
Just to be sure I have a tmobile galaxy s3 t999l rooted ,
i put slim full gapps 4.4.4 build 8x -28.2 and
slim d3lte 4.4.4 build 7.0 official 5979 - on sd card
is this they way to go ? before i proceed?
what is the best rom installer to use, im having trouble getting a custom recovery to boot . and is there a tutorial/ step by step ? thanks chefno2
chefno2 said:
Just to be sure I have a tmobile galaxy s3 t999l rooted ,
i put slim full gapps 4.4.4 build 8x -28.2 and
slim d3lte 4.4.4 build 7.0 official 5979 - on sd card
is this they way to go ? before i proceed?
what is the best rom installer to use, im having trouble getting a custom recovery to boot . and is there a tutorial/ step by step ? thanks chefno2
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Sorry but you need a custom recovery. Personally I suggest TWRP. You need to read these two threads carefully in order to correctly do things:
-[INFO] [FAQ] Galaxy S3 w/ LTE - SGH-T999L & SGH-T999N (covering general questions)
- [Firmware/OTA's] [root66] SGH-T999(All Variants!) Official & Root66 FW & OTA Updates! (this one will explain how to use ODIN for flashing custom recoveries and firmwares)
Any news on when a stable 8.0 will be released?
I am having issues getting the downloaded zip to work. When I go to flash it, it says It "cant open (bad)". Ive tried downloading the rom to my computer and then moving it to the SDcard, via an adapter. Ive tried re-downloading it & emailing it. Ive also tried downloading it via my phone's browser, but it still wont work. Does anyone have any other ideas so to how I can download this without it getting corrupt? Thanks. I have been trying to download Version 7 of the rom, and it seems no matter how I try to get it on my phone I always get "Cant open (bad)" when I go to flash it.
Im having trouble getting any pictures taken with the stock camera to stay on my external SD Card, regardless of what SD Card I put in. Ill take a picture, but once the phone reboots, its gone from my SD Card. I even checked before and after rebooting in Root Explorer. Its there, but then the whole "Camera" folder in DCIM is gone after rebooting the phone. Any suggestions as to how I can get my pictures to stay on my SD Card so I dont fill my internal memory with photos? Running version 7.
NoRingtone get reset when reboot or shutdown. Becomes unknown ringtone. There's something that has to deal with the SD card as far as I know. Because the sounds are on SD card and when I use factory sounds it stays selected when rebooted/shutdown.
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itsLYNDZ said:
I am having issues getting the downloaded zip to work. When I go to flash it, it says It "cant open (bad)". Ive tried downloading the rom to my computer and then moving it to the SDcard, via an adapter. Ive tried re-downloading it & emailing it. Ive also tried downloading it via my phone's browser, but it still wont work. Does anyone have any other ideas so to how I can download this without it getting corrupt? Thanks. I have been trying to download Version 7 of the rom, and it seems no matter how I try to get it on my phone I always get "Cant open (bad)" when I go to flash it.
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Try to reformat your sdcard. But save what you want BEFORE you format.
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you have to let your phone reformat it. Go to setting-storage-unmount SD card-formatt.
boot loop issue
EDIT: Resolved the issue. Pretty sure its unrelated to the rom. Experienced a faulty power button that causes the phone to continuously reboot last year. Thought it went away since i used the power button fine past couple of months, but guess its resurfaced. Jiggling the power button and using an app to power off the phone helps band-aid the issue.
I flashed slimkat 7.0 and gapps about 2 weeks ago following the instructions on the slimroms website using CWM. It's been working great until today where its fallen into a sort of boot loop. I didn't do any major changes to the phone in the past few days so not sure what prompted this since it was working perfectly before. But now every 2 min, it would reboot without warning. During those 2 min, the phone works fine. Please let me know if there is anything I can or should do.
Thanks!
Possible fix for SlimKat Camera Issues
I had the same camera issues that people mentioned in the SlimKat build thread, where all of my camera apps were crashing upon opening, but my camcorder was fine. I tracked it down to have a corrupt image file in my images directory, which I was able to delete using the gallery app. Hopefully this helps someone.
Bluetooth in car doesn't work for Skype, Viber, Hangout Calls
Hi experts!!
I've flashed SlimKat d2lte build 7.0 5979 on my Galaxy S3 (T-Mo) T999 and everything just works great. EXCEPT for these 2 issues:
1. Bluetooth in car doesn't work for Skype, Viber, Google Hangouts Calls Normals phone calls over the network connect perfectly fine.
2. When placing calls over Skype, Viber or Hangouts, the phone makes just 1 ring (albeit showing "ringing" on the screen) but the call connects just fine and I can hear the other person then (ie. the call is placed successfully). The other person confirmed that the call keeps ringing Skype/Viber/Hangouts continuously until answered just normally. But I hear just one outgoing ring and then silence!
I hope I've not messed up some settings somewhere. Pls help!
Cleaned flashed 9.0
I cleaned flashed 9.0 per the installation instructions and now there is no SIM toolkit and Offline APN Database Pro says there is no sim card detected. Is there a way to install the SIM toolkit?
sgh-t999 no SIM PIN unlock and no service with official 9
I originally had SIM lock PIN enabled and working in official 6 and 7. Weekly 8.20 and official 9 do not attempt to unlock. The SIM Card Lock option does not even show up between Encrypt phone and Passwords in the Security screen.
I disabled the SIM Card Lock using a different phone and now official 9 says "no service". bugreport.zip is from this point with unlocked SIM, but no service.
#slimusers told me to post bugreport.zip in official 9 thread. When I attempted to reply to the official 9 thread, I got redirected to this Stable 7.0 thread.
rcpao
PS: forum.slimroms.net registration is broken.
Upgrading from SlimKat Stable 8.0 to Stable 9.0 without losing data, apps & settings
Hi experts,
I just saw that SlimROM posted SlimKat Stable 9.0 release. I am running version 8.0 and would like to upgrade to 9.0 but without losing my data, apps, settings, etc. How do I do that? I do have Ti Bkup Pro but have never really used it to upgrade ROMS.
+1 on the last post. I have installed slimkat 4.4.4 build 7 official since August, and have not had any issue whatsoever and love how it runs. Is it necessary to update? Or if it isn't broken, don't fix it?
A Simplified Beginner's Guide to Rooting, Flashing & Unrooting Your Samsung Galaxy S3
A Simplified Beginner's Guide to Rooting, Flashing & Unrooting Your Samsung Galaxy S3
SlimKat 9.0 Apn settings
Hi, why is it i can't add an Apn setting on my network provider. Each time I add an apn and save it after, it doesn't save. Is this a bug issue? Please help with this issue.. Anyone having similar problems?
T-999 non lte version
I've had issues with other ROMs on my T999 version and CM 11 had a stable build but, I just recently updated (apparently to lte version) because the volume on the headset was really low. I like what SlimKat has to offer but, I need to know if I will run into the same issues without having lte.
not able to make calls
I read a lot about this ROM and wanted to try. Flashing went fine, but I am having basic issue with phone calls.
Before this ROM, I tried LP roms and other 4.3 roms. They were all fine.
Steps done are ODIN flash of root66+Modem, then flashed TWRP, flashed ROM+Gapps.
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I read a lot about this ROM and wanted to try. Flashing went fine, but I am having basic issue with phone calls.
Before this ROM, I tried LP roms and other 4.3 roms. They were all fine.
Steps done are ODIN flash of root66+Modem, then flashed TWRP, flashed ROM+Gapps.
I am really interested in using this, please help.
Hi, I have the latest CM12 installed in my tablet, but I have a lot of issues, especially when installing multiple apps or if I try to change the Launcher. It gets into boot loop and there is nothing one can do but re-flash the rom, which is pretty annoying. It has happened to me already 3 times in a short while and I am thinking of flashing LineageOS. However, I hear it is still very buggy, especially the issues with wifi. So I would like to ask which is the least buggy Rom for 7.0 v410 or if there is a way to avoid CM12 from getting the problem with boot loop.
Boot loop has been caused when trying to change Launcher (because trebuchet regularly crashes), when installing x-plore file manager and in a clean flash when I attempted to install multiple apps at the same time. In all cases it got stack in boot loop, or would start only to restart after a while, endlessly.
Finally, I opted for LineageOS 14.1.
I had the 11-11 Nightly for some time and seemed fine. Today I updated to 25-11 Nightly. It feels maybe slightly laggy, but still checking it.
I have also installed "Best WiFi Keeper" app from play store and it generally keeps me connected. However, if connection is lost (e.g at restart or if I get out of range), I have to reconnect manually. I tried few apps for reconnecting but nothing worked. It appears that although the WiFi network is seen, the tablet cannot really re-establish the connection automatically.
I found Nothing stable yet.. In last few days, I have installed CM 12.1, same trouble.. I installed Tipsy and Tesle, unable to install apps from playstore. Tried CM 13 and Lineage OS latest build as you, Wifi Teathering and USB teathering not working and same problem with wifi connectivity. Keed posted if you find something better.. I shall too...
Tesla works great for me. I'm running a lollipop version that's still on androidfilehost; I'm not sure if GZR ever got updated beyond 5.1 for V410.
I've had CM 14.1 (long enough ago it was still CM and not LOS) on the tablet, and it felt like it would get laggy. That could just be from junk my kid installs though, but I don't seem to have that problem with Tesla.
I installed Tesla (Tesla-v410-5.1.1.High_Voltage.2.2.1-Release-20150902.zip from https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=24052804347807214) with open G apps but getting errors while installing apps from Play store(Some error code 963 - tried cleaning cache of playstore, play services download manager, removing google account and adding again - Nothing works). Same situation with tipsy. Any help?
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I installed Tesla (Tesla-v410-5.1.1.High_Voltage.2.2.1-Release-20150902.zip from https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=24052804347807214) with open G apps but getting errors while installing apps from Play store(Some error code 963 - tried cleaning cache of playstore, play services download manager, removing google account and adding again - Nothing works). Same situation with tipsy. Any help?
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That is probably what I'm running, I don't have my tablet right now. I think I flashed it with opengapps nano. I didn't have to do anything unusual to get play store to work.
Tipsy uses the same base as Tesla and Validus. Since it is persisting across multiple flashes and roms, consider formatting the internal storage if it isn't too much hassle, the TWRP wipe where you have to type "yes" to confirm. Sometimes some remnants in userdata that aren't touched by the normal system/data/cache/dalvik wipe cause problems like this and can persist the way you're describing.
Just make sure you have rom and gapps on an external SD or you have confirmed you can push files to the tablet in TWRP over usb via mtp or adb before you blank the internal storage.
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That is probably what I'm running, I don't have my tablet right now. I think I flashed it with opengapps nano. I didn't have to do anything unusual to get play store to work.
Tipsy uses the same base as Tesla and Validus. Since it is persisting across multiple flashes and roms, consider formatting the internal storage if it isn't too much hassle, the TWRP wipe where you have to type "yes" to confirm. Sometimes some remnants in userdata that aren't touched by the normal system/data/cache/dalvik wipe cause problems like this and can persist the way you're describing.
Just make sure you have rom and gapps on an external SD or you have confirmed you can push files to the tablet in TWRP over usb via mtp or adb before you blank the internal storage.
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can you tell me if hotspot and usb tethering is working on tipsy? Thanks.
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can you tell me if hotspot and usb tethering is working on tipsy? Thanks.
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I'm on Tesla, but it has the same base as Tipsy. I don't have data on the tablet so it isn't a 100% conclusive test, but it doesn't seem to work. The switch for USB tethering never turns on. Wifi turns on but never connects properly. My laptop does briefly show connection then disconnects with both USB and wifi tethering. It could be because there is no data connection on my tablet, but looking through dmesg on the laptop gives me the impression that something on the tablet isn't working right.
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I found Nothing stable yet.. In last few days, I have installed CM 12.1, same trouble.. I installed Tipsy and Tesle, unable to install apps from playstore. Tried CM 13 and Lineage OS latest build as you, Wifi Teathering and USB teathering not working and same problem with wifi connectivity. Keed posted if you find something better.. I shall too...
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I'm on lineageOs 14.1 which is alright though the wifi issue is still there. However, someone may have found a solution, but I don't know how to implement it. Check posts 207, 210 and 215 in this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/g-...eageos-14-1-v400-lg-g-pad-7-0-t3583952/page22
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I'm on lineageOs 14.1 which is alright though the wifi issue is still there. However, someone may have found a solution, but I don't know how to implement it. Check posts 207, 210 and 215 in this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/g-...eageos-14-1-v400-lg-g-pad-7-0-t3583952/page22
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Would you (or anyone who sees this) please tell me is it possible to flash TWRP if I'm on 5.0.2? Or must I downgrade first?
I'm rooted already. TBH stock is pretty solid and if the custom roms have too many bugs I might pass. But I would like to flash Viper4Android and don't think I've ever installed it without a custom recovery. Many thanks in advance.
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Would you (or anyone who sees this) please tell me is it possible to flash TWRP if I'm on 5.0.2? Or must I downgrade first?
I'm rooted already. TBH stock is pretty solid and if the custom roms have too many bugs I might pass. But I would like to flash Viper4Android and don't think I've ever installed it without a custom recovery. Many thanks in advance.
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I made the same question more or less, over a year ago here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/development/help-installing-cm-t3483074
You cannot flash another rom over lollipop and I've never seen twrp for android 5.0.2 for v410. I am not 100% sure because my question was a bit different, but I assume from the replies, that probably not.
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I made the same question more or less, over a year ago here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/development/help-installing-cm-t3483074
You cannot flash another rom over lollipop and I've never seen twrp for android 5.0.2 for v410. I am not 100% sure because my question was a bit different, but I assume from the replies, that probably not.
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Thanks. That's more or less what I thought. From what I'm hearing there are some bugs in the roms that no doubt aren't being maintained at this late stage so I think I'll stick with stock (would be nice to have a custom recovery though.)
Not that it matters (a year later) but lots of people root with Kingroot when there isn't another option and there's several ways to remove all the bits left behind and switch it to supersu.
Thanks again!
Well, I have a work around to stop wifi from disconnecting in lineage os. After that I did not know when wifi got disconnected and reconnected.
Just download E-Robot from playstore.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bartat.android.robot
And set it to settings as per screen shot.
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Well, I have a work around to stop wifi from disconnecting in lineage os. After that I did not know when wifi got disconnected and reconnected.
Just download E-Robot from playstore.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bartat.android.robot
And set it to settings as per screen shot.
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It works! Thank you so much! It seems the LOS developers have stopped trying to fix the wifi issue but it is important. The workaround even works at restart, with some delay, but it works!
Just to clarify to newbies like me, where ssid you have to put the name of the network you want to connect. I wonder if one can add more networks, so it can connect to any saved network according to where you are. You think that's possible?
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It works! Thank you so much! It seems the LOS developers have stopped trying to fix the wifi issue but it is important. The workaround even works at restart, with some delay, but it works!
Just to clarify to newbies like me, where ssid you have to put the name of the network you want to connect. I wonder if one can add more networks, so it can connect to any saved network according to where you are. You think that's possible?
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That would be great.. I shall try.. if successful, I shall post results.
I have a uk410, the US Cellular variant of the v410. I tried the CM12.1 "stable" release cm-12.1-20151117-SNAPSHOT-YOG7DAO1K5-v410.zip found here (archive.org/download/cmarchive_snapshots), along with Open GApps nano for 5.1 (opengapps.org/?api=5.1), and quickly got the infinite rebooting issue.
I then switched to the Telsa ROM mentioned earlier in this thread (Tesla-v410-5.1.1.High_Voltage.2.2.1-Release-20150902.zip) found at androidfilehost.com/?fid=24052804347807214, again with Open GApps nano for 5.1 (build open_gapps-arm-5.1-nano-20180922.zip), and have been running it with no issues for two days. My wifi is connected, and stays connected (tested two different routers), Play Store and apps have been working fine, and no crashes so far.
I'm using TWRP 3.1 (twrp-3.1.0-0-v410.img).
Thanks for mentioning Tesla, @jason2678 !
So like all of you I was looking for a rom to install on this v410 7" tablet, and it looks like I should just give up or stick with 4.4.2 stock if I want to go through the rooting process.
Basically all the development roms end with the same problems, wifi dropping, hostspot not working, no ir blaster, volume problems, bluetooth errors, and several hundred posts about lolipop memory leaks crippling the tablet because of only 1gb mem.
So, I am asking all of you, is there any real reason to root it, besides going back to stock 4.4.2?
And lastly, is the stock 4.4.2 kdz image that is floating around a test version, and if so is there an actual official kdz image somewhere that isn't a test image?
Thanks...
CrDroid by far in my opinion. Lineage based, 7.1.2.
Also, e/ os has been unofficially released. No Google anything...an entirely new Google list operating system by lineage. It's lightning fast and runs magisk perfectly. It's basically like nothing you've ever seen before and if you look under LG g pad 7.0 on Android file host, go to the second page and click on the last user who goes by the name anonymous and you'll find the ROM there. I had no idea what it was until my g pad boot it up and I saw the e logo. I pretty much **** myself in excitement