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[Q] T-889, N7100, or N7105

I'd really to get on T-Mobile's prepaid plans or Solavei and I'm not sure which device would be the smartest to purchase. I live in Portland, OR if that helps. It seems like they all offer upsides but I'd be willing to spend a bit more for the device that will be the most future proof (if that's possible).

I'm on a Tmo value plan, and where I'm at, there is almost no Magenta coverage. I got the T889 for the WiFi calling and maybe, just maybe, for the LTE. When and if Tmo ever brings real 4G to our area, I'll already be running the right device.
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The T-Mobile version seems to be the one to go with considering the pentaband 3G radio hardware. The inclusion of the LTE radio is also a big plus. None of the other Note2 models work on everyone's 3G like the Note2 does.

mfenske said:
I'd really to get on T-Mobile's prepaid plans or Solavei and I'm not sure which device would be the smartest to purchase. I live in Portland, OR if that helps. It seems like they all offer upsides but I'd be willing to spend a bit more for the device that will be the most future proof (if that's possible).
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Keep in mind if you purchase the n7100 international it won't actually work on T-Mobile's HSPA+ network and instead you will be treated to its 200ish kbps speeds, and on a super phone like the Note 2 that's just sad. :crying: Take it from someone who's used the International Edition Note1 on their prepaid for a few months now...it SUCKED! I'm now on their Value plan with the GN2 and the phone and the download speeds are exceptional!
Hope this helps!

k1ng617 said:
Keep in mind if you purchase the n7100 international it won't actually work on T-Mobile's HSPA+ network and instead you will be treated to its 200ish kbps speeds, and on a super phone like the Note 2 that's just sad. :crying: Take it from someone who's used the International Edition Note1 on their prepaid for a few months now...it SUCKED! I'm now on their Value plan with the GN2 and the phone and the download speeds are exceptional!
Hope this helps!
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Thanks guys! That helps immensely.

I am using the tmobile version on solavei and love it. Plus you wont have to unlock the phone if you go with Solavei.
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Yeh, the T-Mobile version has all the right hardware for the USA. Not only does it include the 1700 MHz band needed for current hi-speed T-Mo 3G in most places, and LTE capability that should work on T-Mo and ATT when ready, but it's 42Mbps capable, too. The N7100 has none of that. The N7105 has 42Mbps but still no 1700 MHz, and the LTE probably won't work in the US.
BTW, T-Mo is upgrading towers to provide hi-speed 3G via 1900 MHz band, which the N7100/05 support, but it's not widely available yet.
Now let's just hope CyanogeMod comes to the T-Mo Note II, since the N7100 is officially supported. That would make it THE best cellphone in the world IMO.

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Now let's just hope CyanogeMod comes to the T-Mo Note II, since the N7100 is officially supported. That would make it THE best cellphone in the world IMO.
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Agreed! That's what I'm chomping at the bit for right now-some CM LOVE! This is by far the most function packed stock software, but it's over-bloated IMO. I want speed and infinite customizations!
This conversation brings up a good point though. Has anyone found a good source for the differences of the models and what will or won't work on all three of them i.e. n7100, n7105, and the T889? It was easy with the first Note because it was your either qualcomm or exynos, but now all Note 2's are Exynos. I can imagine many bricks happening if there are major unknown hardware differences.

k1ng617 said:
Agreed! That's what I'm chomping at the bit for right now-some CM LOVE! This is by far the most function packed stock software, but it's over-bloated IMO. I want speed and infinite customizations!
This conversation brings up a good point though. Has anyone found a good source for the differences of the models and what will or won't work on all three of them i.e. n7100, n7105, and the T889? It was easy with the first Note because it was your either qualcomm or exynos, but now all Note 2's are Exynos. I can imagine many bricks happening if there are major unknown hardware differences.
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Yeah, that would be great. Im looking for a site where I can see if the n7100 is the same in the outside (housing) as t889.
Since I know that the front crystal is the same for all three models, att, international and tmo. Also that the plastic back door (battery door) is the same on the att and the tmo models. Not yet sure if the n7100 also because I havent opened one of does yet (n7100), the other two are the same in plastic housing too. Thats great at time of replacing parts.
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Here I found a place to see side by side t889 and n7100
http://www.morecellphone.com/compar...vs-samsung-galaxy-note-ii-gt-n7100-16gb/34435
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Ok more info!
The i317 t889 n7100 have same housings.
ALSO
In the link I provided before you can see that there are only two real differences between them:
Cellular Networks:
TMobile t889 GSM 850/900/1800/1900, UMTS 850/900/1700/1900/2100
N7100 GSM 850/900/1800/1900, UMTS 850/900/1900/2100
Maximum Speed Download: t889 (42 Mbps) N7100 (21 Mbps)

Get a t889. Im using tmobile pre paid plan on my note 2 and my wife is running solavei on hers. Everything runs fine and speeds are fine. I try to compared using both my tmobile and solavei on a unlock n7105 and n7100 and speeds arent that great. Feels like im running on edge for some reason.
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e46tuning said:
Get a t889. Im using tmobile pre paid plan on my note 2 and my wife is running solavei on hers. Everything runs fine and speeds are fine. I try to compared using both my tmobile and solavei on a unlock n7105 and n7100 and speeds arent that great. Feels like im running on edge for some reason.
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You need umts band 1700 to run tmobile 4g. So yes you where on edge on the n7000 since the only model with band 1700 is the t889

NightsSPIDER said:
You need umts band 1700 to run tmobile 4g. So yes you where on edge on the n7000 since the only model with band 1700 is the t889
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Nights SPIDER is correct, but I'm going to clarify a bit in case anyone else stumbles across this in the future.
The other two models will only get T-Mobile 3G speeds when in a refarmed area that T-Mobile has 1900MHz bands. Most of the country is still rocking the 1700MHz band, so those two models won't work at all on it and only get EDGE speeds.

Which LTE model use snapdragon

i bought this table Galaxy Tab S 10.5 LTE SM-T805 16G 2 days a go iam confuse becuase i read spcification of this tablet over the net all of them says WIFI SM-T800 and 3G SM-T801 use exynos 8 core and LTEs model use snap but my lte tablet use exynos
in general how many models can be found for this tablet ((TAB S 10.5))

alpha_330 said:
i bought this table Galaxy Tab S 10.5 LTE SM-T805 16G 2 days a go iam confuse becuase i read spcification of this tablet over the net all of them says WIFI SM-T800 and 3G SM-T801 use exynos 8 core and LTEs model use snap but my lte tablet use exynos
in general how many models can be found for this tablet ((TAB S 10.5))
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As far as my understanding goes, all S models are Exynos for now.
Pro line is Snapdragon.

I think only certain US Carriers use the Snapdragon chip Tab S LTE.

this chipset exynos 5420 is 3g in general no 4g lte .this is new 5420 with lte included or lte has dedicated chipset ?
becuase my note 3 n900 exynos 5420 support only 3g freq. but 5420 in this tablet support 4g let
if use another chipset just for lte power consumption is too much more than 3g

as i know, the tab S model use intel chip to support 4g

I have not (yet) read on any Samsung site of any Tab S using Snapdragon. To avoid any future confusion, I suggest to forget the other sites, and go straight to the source themselves (Samsung) .....

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I have not (yet) read on any Samsung site of any Tab S using Snapdragon. To avoid any future confusion, I suggest to forget the other sites, and go straight to the source themselves (Samsung) .....
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I wish the moderators would fix this forum. It lists the Snapdragon 800 SoC in the tech spec details(above the individual forums)

Enddo said:
I wish the moderators would fix this forum. It lists the Snapdragon 800 SoC in the tech spec details(above the individual forums)
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Maybe they are oblivious to it and need to be informed. You could contact them and ask.

Gsmarena is one of these sites

The mods know about the Snapdragon issue. Because Snapdragon is offered in some limited markets they say it should remain. I don't agree as the vast majority of these devices are Exynos. It is misleading but they won't change it.

mitchellvii said:
The mods know about the Snapdragon issue. Because Snapdragon is offered in some limited markets they say it should remain. I don't agree as the vast majority of these devices are Exynos. It is misleading but they won't change it.
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I could only suggest that they need to " amend " the description, not " omit ". Just add Exynos to it, that's all. Or go the " hard " way and have separate forums same as other devices .... End of confusion

I thought AT&T were getting the snapdragon LTE models. May be wrong though.

sycotik said:
I thought AT&T were getting the snapdragon LTE models. May be wrong though.
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I wish there was a US model that had a snapdragon, I've been looking all over for one to no avail.

mitchellvii said:
The mods know about the Snapdragon issue. Because Snapdragon is offered in some limited markets they say it should remain. I don't agree as the vast majority of these devices are Exynos. It is misleading but they won't change it.
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Samsung.com doesn't list any Qualcomm specs for the T700/T705/T800, says they're all Exynos™ 5 Octa (1.9Ghz Quadcore + 1.3 Ghz Quadcore).
The only possible Tab S with a Snapdragon is the T805.
Does anybody on this forum have a Snapdragon Tab S?

brad1825 said:
I wish there was a US model that had a snapdragon, I've been looking all over for one to no avail.
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I just ordered the Sprint variant of the Tab S 10.5 (SPHT807TAB) yesterday, and it uses the Snapdragon 800 (MSM8974). Unsure if the other carriers have/will release it.

scheelwd said:
I just ordered the Sprint variant of the Tab S 10.5 (SPHT807TAB) yesterday, and it uses the Snapdragon 800 (MSM8974). Unsure if the other carriers have/will release it.
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So the T807 is the Snapdragon model.
How's the performance?

kenkiller said:
So the T807 is the Snapdragon model.
How's the performance?
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It shipped out today, so I most likely won't know until Monday or Tuesday. But I'd imagine the performance will be just like my Note 3 since it's the same SoC and memory.

scheelwd said:
It shipped out today, so I most likely won't know until Monday or Tuesday. But I'd imagine the performance will be just like my Note 3 since it's the same SoC and memory.
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Yes, please keep us informed.
I picked up the WIFI version a few days ago after seeing it posted here that BB was discounting the 32GB. I am not noticing any significant lags other than within certain apps that I have also noticed it my Note 8. I would be torn over which to choose, the Snapdragon/Sprint or the 32GB version.
Incidentally, if you chose the the monthly option @ $27 (total $650) , did it also include the cellular plan for 2 years or was that additional? (Update:Never mind, found the answer on the Sprint website)

My Tab S from sprint will be here shortly. I will post back about its performance. I am trying to find out if there is a root method that works for this model.
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So far, even with the crap-bloatware Samsung/Sprint like to pile on, and the memory-monster-TouchWiz; this tablet is performing quite well. The Snapdragon definitely makes up for all of the aforementioned annoyances. Certainly more responsive and 'snappy' than the Exynos variant that I've messed around with. I can't wait to see how fast this is going to be running once we have root and custom kernels.
I do find it odd that they went back to the old USB 2.0 port vs the duel 3.0 port though; I get great charge times with my Note 3 using that.

[Q] Tab S 8.4 as a phone. Which version?

I'm in the US and most of the US tablets have the cellphone functions disabled. I'm on AT&T Currently with a Huawei Mediapad X1 (LTE doesn't work, but HSPA+ seems decent enough)
It seems that if I get an international version the phone stuff is enabled, but then LTE probably won't work in the US?
Just looking for some direction as I'm only planning on buying the Tab S 8.4 if I can use it as my phone as well, I have no need to carry 2 devices.
I'm also finding it hard to tell which versions have the Snapdragon CPU. From what I can tell the CPU performance between Exynos and Snapdragon seems about the same, but the GPU performance of the Snapdragon seems much better. I do play a fair amount of games.
Thanks!

I am not great on the version numbers but T705 is the standard exynos 4G version.
I would say go for one where you can get a firmware for the UK or somewhere else.
My T805 (10.5" exynos 4G) has all the phone functions.

lynxblaine said:
I am not great on the version numbers but T705 is the standard exynos 4G version.
I would say go for one where you can get a firmware for the UK or somewhere else.
My T805 (10.5" exynos 4G) has all the phone functions.
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Is your T805 a US model?
So if I pickup a US LTE version can I just root it and add back the dialer app to make it work as a phone? Or do they lock out the phone functions some other way in the US?

Mine is a UK T805, but if it is actually that model, so a T705. It will be Exynos 4G. You got a few websites you are looking on that I can look at the models for you?

lynxblaine said:
Mine is a UK T805, but if it is actually that model, so a T705. It will be Exynos 4G. You got a few websites you are looking on that I can look at the models for you?
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If I get an international one from Amazon
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00LVUUM6A/ref=gno_cart_title_0?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1QPS08K9FKKNF
That should work fine as a phone and the LTE ones should be snapdragon 800 equipped.
The issue is these international ones won't work with LTE bands in the US
So that's why i'm wondering if I get a US one (LTE bands will work in the US of course) can I somehow get the software on it to be able to use as a phone (As the US disables phone capability somehow)
My current phone is a Chinese LTE phone, the LTE does not work in the US, but I do get HSPA+ which is decent enough, It would just be nice to have US LTE and Phone working...

What network are you using, can check what Bands they are using?

lynxblaine said:
What network are you using, can check what Bands they are using?
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I'm on AT&T, I already know the international LTE phones won't work on the AT&T LTE Bands. I'll just have to live with HSPA+

So you would be getting a T707A if you got the AT&T specific one. or a T705 for the international.
There are no T707A custom ROMs, only for rooting. I guess it will not have phone software Regardless of the version of software on samfirmware.
T705 will do 3G nicely, where I live I get HSPA+ and its quick - only get 4G in town.

lynxblaine said:
So you would be getting a T707A if you got the AT&T specific one. or a T705 for the international.
There are no T707A custom ROMs, only for rooting. I guess it will not have phone software Regardless of the version of software on samfirmware.
T705 will do 3G nicely, where I live I get HSPA+ and its quick - only get 4G in town.
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Pretty much what I figured, I will just get the T705 international one and just live with HSPA+
From what I can tell all the T705 are snapdragon 800's, That Amazon link doesn't say what CPU it has. I'm pretty sure i'd rather have the snapdragon over the Exynos as the GPU appears to be way faster.

I think you will find the T705 is an exynos. Dont be fooled as with the intel modem they put exynos in their 4G versions.

lynxblaine said:
I think you will find the T705 is an exynos. Dont be fooled as with the intel modem they put exynos in their 4G versions.
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Hmmm, Exynos CPU seems fast enough, its the GPU I keep hearing is severely lacking with such a high resolution.....

I haven't had issues myself - I have found it fast. Especially if you disable any crap that comes with it you don't need.

lynxblaine said:
I haven't had issues myself - I have found it fast. Especially if you disable any crap that comes with it you don't need.
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Ok, good to hear. It will get rooted pretty quickly and I will remove as much junk as I can...

T-Mobile User Losing Anything with Unlocked S9?

I've been reading about firmware and how users flashed the T-Mobile Firmware on their S8's to gain some services. Am I missing anything with my S9 and keeping it on the unlocked firmware? I've searched these forums and the web but there are no sound conclusions if I am hurting my service by not flashing the firmware.
Thanks for the help

chferg said:
I've been reading about firmware and how users flashed the T-Mobile Firmware on their S8's to gain some services. Am I missing anything with my S9 and keeping it on the unlocked firmware? I've searched these forums and the web but there are no sound conclusions if I am hurting my service by not flashing the firmware.
Thanks for the help
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No. ALL TMobile features work with the US unlocked version. I'm using one myself on tmobile.

The only "feature" you'll be missing is the 600mhz/B71 band on T-Mobile, which is new an somewhat "upcoming" anyways. I think the S9 Tmo is one of the first phones (if not the only phone) to support this band.

Nightwind Hawk said:
The only "feature" you'll be missing is the 600mhz/B71 band on T-Mobile, which is new an somewhat "upcoming" anyways. I think the S9 Tmo is one of the first phones (if not the only phone) to support this band.
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No, sorry. The US unlocked version has TMobiles new band 71.

Nightwind Hawk said:
The only "feature" you'll be missing is the 600mhz/B71 band on T-Mobile, which is new an somewhat "upcoming" anyways. I think the S9 Tmo is one of the first phones (if not the only phone) to support this band.
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The first phone carried by a US carrier to support the 600MHz was actually the LG V30. Since then the Moto Z2 Force, S9, S9+, Note 8, and S8 active all support 600MHz. Last week LG launched the first budget phone to support 600MHz, and that's the LG K30 at $225.
Edit: All, if not almost all of the phones I listed have native support for 600MHz (assuming Snapdragon versions), so all carriers phones if unlocked will be able to take advantage of the 600MHz on T-mobiles network.

Multi line (digits) doesn't appear to work in the unlocked version. The app still functions though, however the experience is so much better when it's baked into the firmware.

I'm on a sm-g960w on Rogers and they have a 2600mhz band that's nice when nobody's on it lol.
I recently flashed over to ARC6 (tmb I think) and then sideloaded an update up to ARDA (may update). My device reads sm-g960u now and I'm wondering if I'll still be able to get on that band.
Thanks in advance if anyone knows, the way I usually measure isn't working and I don't have root.

thephunk said:
Multi line (digits) doesn't appear to work in the unlocked version. The app still functions though, however the experience is so much better when it's baked into the firmware.
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Digits works just fine on my unlocked S9. All u gotta do is download the tmobile digits app in the app store. Never had an issue

ChongoDroid said:
I'm on a sm-g960w on Rogers and they have a 2600mhz band that's nice when nobody's on it lol.
I recently flashed over to ARC6 (tmb I think) and then sideloaded an update up to ARDA (may update). My device reads sm-g960u now and I'm wondering if I'll still be able to get on that band.
Thanks in advance if anyone knows, the way I usually measure isn't working and I don't have root.
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If you dial *#2263# do you also see US bands enabled like band 28, 71, 14???
If so I'd be willing to take my chances and would flash the U1/U baseband/firmware

Which variant...

Any reason to get an Exynos version over Snap Dragon?
I am mainly hesitating between 2 Snapdragon variants... N9750 from Hong Kong or the global N975F. Both dual sim.
Anyone know of a reason to go with one va the other? For one, the 9750 seems to have only 2 CSCs. Slower roll-out of patches maybe?

Exynos If you plan to root and mod the phone. There's always more development for Exynos phones.

Thanks. I need to keep it stock for mobile payment and other apps that won’t run if rooted. Any feature related reasons or availability of anything else outside of customization or development?
I seem to be missing the advantage of the TGY or BRI variants.
Thanks,

lbarouf said:
Any reason to get an Exynos version over Snap Dragon?
I am mainly hesitating between 2 Snapdragon variants... N9750 from Hong Kong or the global N975F. Both dual sim.
Anyone know of a reason to go with one va the other? For one, the 9750 seems to have only 2 CSCs. Slower roll-out of patches maybe?
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The only reason I went with the 9750 was that supposedly Snapdragon variants have better performance and battery life, however, unlike the G9650 (analogous variant for the S9+), the N9750 actually lost a couple frequency bands compared to the N975F, rendering the former useless on carriers that utilize 3G AWS.
The 975F would be, I would expect, the superior choice if you love tinkering with ROM variants and especially if you plan on signing up for the next OS beta, but don't happen to live in the US, India or Germany (for example)
Last but not least, some users I have exchanged information with on XDA are more or less convinced that the SD variants have much better RF.

Ah, thanks. Slightly better RF is a common comment I heard so far. I was hoping to hear a real world comment on the newer Exynos though. Compared to the S10, the note is said to have access to a newer Exynos SoC.
I don’t plan on using nothing but stick firmware. Which CSC is the question as I travel a lot and use 3 sims from different csc.
With this in mind, are you happy you got the 9750 vs the 975F? Should I care at this point or both are really so similar? I am not looking for any Hong Kong Specific features. And when I roam there I don’t even use a local sim.
Thanks,

waqqas.khokhar said:
The only reason I went with the 9750 was that supposedly Snapdragon variants have better performance and battery life, however, unlike the G9650 (analogous variant for the S9+), the N9750 actually lost a couple frequency bands compared to the N975F, rendering the former useless on carriers that utilize 3G AWS.
The 975F would be, I would expect, the superior choice if you love tinkering with ROM variants and especially if you plan on signing up for the next OS beta, but don't happen to live in the US, India or Germany (for example)
Last but not least, some users I have exchanged information with on XDA are more or less convinced that the SD variants have much better RF.
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Oh, and are you running a multi csc firmware? If so, does OZW or OZS?

lbarouf said:
Ah, thanks. Slightly better RF is a common comment I heard so far. I was hoping to hear a real world comment on the newer Exynos though. Compared to the S10, the note is said to have access to a newer Exynos SoC.
I don’t plan on using nothing but stick firmware. Which CSC is the question as I travel a lot and use 3 sims from different csc.
With this in mind, are you happy you got the 9750 vs the 975F? Should I care at this point or both are really so similar? I am not looking for any Hong Kong Specific features. And when I roam there I don’t even use a local sim.
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I'm happy in that my device is definitely stable and fast, while I have admittedly never held a N975F, however.
My only gripe is that the 9750 is among the last Note 10 4G models to get updates. That said, it's not like Samsung is holding out on 9750 users (without reason) as the update version eventually released does have a newer version and build than the others that preceded it.
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Oh, and are you running a multi csc firmware? If so, does OZW or OZS?
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I'm running the only multi CSC firmware available for the 9750, which is for BRI and TGY. BRI is the default, but I have used Samkey to switch the CSC to TGY.

waqqas.khokhar said:
I'm happy in that my device is definitely stable and fast, while I have admittedly never held a N975F, however.
My only gripe is that the 9750 is among the last Note 10 4G models to get updates. That said, it's not like Samsung is holding out on 9750 users (without reason) as the update version eventually released does have a newer version and build than the others that preceded it.
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I'm running the only multi CSC firmware available for the 9750, which is for BRI and TGY. BRI is the default, but I have used Samkey to switch the CSC to TGY.
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Thanks for this. I was just reading in another thread where a user got the Star Wars firmware supposedly for the 9750 variant. Have you tried it? I wonder if it's still limited to BRI/TGY. You have not tried it by any chance?

cachanilla86 said:
Exynos If you plan to root and mod the phone. There's always more development for Exynos phones.
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One of the main SIM I use with the phone is Telcel. I rotate between 3/4 sims with 2 at a time obviously. You wouldn't have tried AT&T or Telcel (MX for both) in that model would you by any chance? If so, which ROM and did VoLTE and Wifi calling work?

lbarouf said:
Thanks for this. I was just reading in another thread where a user got the Star Wars firmware supposedly for the 9750 variant. Have you tried it? I wonder if it's still limited to BRI/TGY. You have not tried it by any chance?
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Sorry, I have not heard of it (for the 9750) nor tried it.