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I've been a lifelong iOS user but finally got bored and ordered an Android phone. I know all about jailbreaking, but know absolutely nothing about rooting and I've been told this is where I'll find whatever info I need.
I have a few general questions and would appreciate if someone could shed some light as I need to get around the basics before I start messing with rooting etc.
I ordered a Nubia z7 Mini which looks like an amazing bit of kit for the price but since it's a Chinese phone there's a few things I'm unsure of.
Would it come with Google Play Store installed? If not, how do the Chinese get their apps?
Also, I've seen that you have to root the phone to install Google apps. What Google apps, and why do you need it?
Lastly, if you need to root the device to install these items, is there a way to unroot it afterwards and keep the newly installed apps? The reason I'm asking is because on an iPhone, certain apps won't work if it's jailbroken(like the Barclays banking app which is essential), so just wondering if it's the same with Android devices.
Thanks for any help.
1- it depends on the seller you buy from . some will install the gapps for you and some not . but don't worry it's so easy to install
the Chinese have their own app stores
2- The Google Apps (or GApps as they are commonly referred to) are the proprietary applications by Google included in many Android devices. Most of the applications can now be found and updated via the Google Play Store.Some of the apps include the Google Play Store itself, Google Talk, Google Sync (for adding and synchronizing Google accounts), Google Backup Transport, Car Home, Gmail, Google Maps, YouTube, Google Search, Google Voice Search, Google Music, and Google Docs.
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3- i think you can unroot z7 mini using the supersu app , i see the unroot option .
check this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/rooting-roms/zte-nubia-z7-mini-root-recovery-google-t2846520
eLcTrOn said:
1- it depends on the seller you buy from . some will install the gapps for you and some not . but don't worry it's so easy to install
the Chinese have their own app stores
2- The Google Apps (or GApps as they are commonly referred to) are the proprietary applications by Google included in many Android devices. Most of the applications can now be found and updated via the Google Play Store.Some of the apps include the Google Play Store itself, Google Talk, Google Sync (for adding and synchronizing Google accounts), Google Backup Transport, Car Home, Gmail, Google Maps, YouTube, Google Search, Google Voice Search, Google Music, and Google Docs.
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3- i think you can unroot z7 mini using the supersu app , i see the unroot option .
check this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/rooting-roms/zte-nubia-z7-mini-root-recovery-google-t2846520
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Thank you for the explanation. I've got my phone and slowly getting the hang of it.
So why can you not install gapps on a Chinese phone without rooting it? And if I unroot it, will gapps disappear or stay behind?
Reason I'm asking is because I need to use apps which won't work on rooted devices, but I don't want to loose gapps.
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I see that this topic has been created in other forums, like HTC vox, omnia II general. But since I am new to this I am not sure if the same answer holds true for my phone (Tmobile G2, Desire Z?)
The perpetrators I would like to remove are:
Amazon MP3
Google Finance
Latitutde
Shopper
News and weather
Google earth (why is it there if the phone has google maps)
Google Goggles
Photobucket
Facebook
Twitter
So is the only way to do this is to root the phone? If I root the phone will I have other apps remainng like google voice commands, and can I go back to origional OS?
Thanks in advance
without root you can't remove them, however, you can dis-able them. They wouldn't show up in your app drawer and they won't run, but they'll technically still be installed. There is a thread about it in the dev forums. I can't post links or else I'd find it
would rooting delete all the other apps as well???
Hello,
First let me say sorry if this is the wrong forum for the question, or if it has been asked. I have searched myself into a headache looking for the answer as well as other information before I update my phone to be able to use Google Play.
My question is this... To install Google Play on the Fire Phone you need .apk files: Account Manager, Framework, Services, Store. Well I've seen quite a few places to get these files online. But where do those sites get them? I'm assuming it can't be downloaded via browser plugin (apk downloader, etc) from the PC Google Play store itself, since it's the app that installs other apps.
I'm paranoid and would like to get those four files myself, so I know its safe - if its possible. Any idea how/where?
The answer is probably staring me in the face, but I don't see it.
My guess is that some phones can capture the files as they download from Google updates and turn them into apk form. But I'm not sure... If there is a way to get them myself I'd like to know - if not, what is the safest place to get them?
Thanks!
gG
Well getting here would be a good start. If not like you said in your post go to Google Play store and use the APK plug in or one of the Web sites that do the same.
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Found another thread the other day and someone there was able to help me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-phone/general/fire-phone-how-to-install-google-play-t2977237
Just wanted to say again.
If you want to get the .APK files to install the Google Play store 100% safe ask a buddy to use ES File Manager to back them up for you. Just go into system files and find them, and select backup. Or if you are like me and have an old android phone, back them up yourself - worked like a charm - no issues.
Thanks again.
I've rooted my N1 (for how to do it see the Play Store thread) and installed Play Store.
It works fine except lots of apps are not downloadable because the store says that they are not compatible with my device. Some stuff that will not install:
LINE messaging app, Google Maps, Google Chrome, Habit browser.
But lots of others are working like:
Gmail, Firefox, Firefox beta,....
I tried to sideload Google Maps and Habit Browser they work. Well not fully, it cannot find my location. (while some others can). The strange thing is that I don't even see them in the recent location requests window. (the location was broken before I rooted)
Anyone having the same issue?
Because of the location issue I have a feeling that they are related - the APIs are buggy, thus Play Store thinks that my device does not have a way to access location, thus lots of apps are flagged as not compatible with my device.
syddd said:
I've rooted my N1 (for how to do it see the Play Store thread) and installed Play Store.
It works fine except lots of apps are not downloadable because the store says that they are not compatible with my device. Some stuff that will not install:
LINE messaging app, Google Maps, Google Chrome, Habit browser.
But lots of others are working like:
Gmail, Firefox, Firefox beta,....
I tried to sideload Google Maps and Habit Browser they work. Well not fully, it cannot find my location. (while some others can). The strange thing is that I don't even see them in the recent location requests window. (the location was broken before I rooted)
Anyone having the same issue?
Because of the location issue I have a feeling that they are related - the APIs are buggy, thus Play Store thinks that my device does not have a way to access location, thus lots of apps are flagged as not compatible with my device.
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Chrome was crash same like you.
But I found apk for x86, It's work okay. but I use Firefox now.
Link is what I used one.
http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/chrome/chrome-42-0-2311-111-x86-android-apk-download/
Thanks, I have found the x86 version too.
My question is not where I can find Chrome or other software, rather *why* marks Google my device as not compatible with apps like Chrome when apparently they seem to function fine (except geolocation). Also I know that if I change the build.prop file I could fake my device to something else.
This method http://www.ghacks.net/2013/05/06/find-out-why-apps-are-incompatible-with-your-android-device/ does not work for me, I dont see those tooltips.
I think this incompatible issues from ARM, ARM64 or x86 based Android device.
One more another I guess is N1 is not cetifified from google maybe.
soondin said:
I think this incompatible issues from ARM, ARM64 or x86 based Android device.
One more another I guess is N1 is not cetifified from google maybe.
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Its not a x86 compatibility issue since these apps work when sideloaded. And its not a certification issue (I guess) since other apps like Gmail are available on the Play store.
My feeling is that this has to do something with geolocation not working in some apps. For example:
Firefox - Available on the play store, does not use Google Play Services, has working geolocation.
GMail - Available on the play store, uses Google Play Services, but does not need geolocation.
Chrome, Google Maps - Not available on the play store, uses Google Play Services for geolocation, geolocation is broken.
Or just search for GPS apps, you will see that the most of them are not compatible with the N1.
So I think Google Play Services/something else reports to the Play Store that the device has no geolocation, and some apps mark it as a required hardware feature, thus the Play Store will not show them.
I've tried to find some error via Catlog, but have not seen any.
But this is just a theory, we need more testing to verify it.
Yes, you right.
I don't have consider this issues from locations.
Do you have any idea fix this issue?
I like to to test.
Most of incompatible apps are available in Nokia store app. Then you can update these apps on Google Play Store.
Anyway to get around it?
In the last few years I've installed dozens of ROMs in several devices from smartphones to tablets and NEVER had to pay again for any app.
Your purchases should be tied to your google play account, not your device or rom.
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Your purchases should be tied to your google play account, not your device or rom.
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Adding on to that all you have to do is log in to the Google Play account you bought the apps/games/movies/music on and then find that product in the google play store. Since you bought it before it will let you download it without paying again.
A great app for making a list of what you have installed is My App List (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.projectsexception.myapplist&hl=en). It will also take you to the play store and let you install each app on the list. So run it before you flash, store the file it creates some where other than your device's storage, flash, install the app again and then copy your list back where My App List need to find it and go put your apps back.
Hey,
I got many issues with my BS3 Chinese.
After many tries, install apk etc the solution to fix everything is to search in installed App Store the Google installer called GO(+chinese stuff).
This app will delete every Google thing already installed then install good version of play store, framework, etc.
This fix payment issue, maps, sync except contacts.
To fix contacts sync you need to download Google contacts sync apk.
Dont forget to give all permissions to Google app or service.
I hope this helps.
I have try this Go+ a.k.a google installer from appstore..but i try to buy diamond for mobile legend and others games cannot..any ways to make it success?
I think you missed some authorization for Google apps