I take a lot of handwritten notes/ and diagram drawings for class. While I'm not entirely convinced I can ditch the paper and pen I'm hopeful.
I have a few gripes:
1. PDF annotations leave much to be desired. I haven't found the right app and does not have trouble rendering large pdf files.
2. Searching for key words take minutes to find or often freezes up my tablet. I've used Adobe reader, Snote, ezpdf and am going to try kindle, since I've heard it's very smooth. Has anyone figured out a app that can handle pdf really well? With fast features like search, annotation, palm rejection etc?
3. The price difference wouldn't be that big of a jump. It'd roughly cost me another $150. I plan on keeping this tablet for a least 2 years.
4. I'm playing around with the idea of selling my tricked out MacBook Air 13" in favor of a 27" iMac for home use and carry around the 12.2 for my mobile use.
5. More internal space would be welcome.
Again my main uses would be taking handwritten notes and some typing in class and reading/annotating text books.
Do you think the note series especially the 12.2 can handle my needs? I think the added space would a a welcome, since I find myself constantly pinching to zoom and resizing texts and apps.
Thoughts?
Thanks!
12.2 has the same hardware as the note, so there won't be a change in pdf rendering speed. But android L is supposed to improve pdf performance! At least that's what I read.
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12.2 has the same hardware as the note, so there won't be a change in pdf rendering speed. But android L is supposed to improve pdf performance! At least that's what I read.
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Yes though it could be some time before either the 12.2 or 10.1 2014 get the L update.
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I haven't found a single perfect PDF app. The best renderers (RepliGo, the various book reader apps) either stink at annotations or don't even support them, and the best annotation apps (LectureNotes, Papyrus, etc.) don't handle PDFs natively but require import.
ezPDF *does* everything, but it's slow as hell.
I own both tablets. I use the 12.2 mostly for writing and the 10.1 for reading books etc. I have found that the 12.2 is a lot nicer for writing and a few minor issues have been fixed. Like the bubbles under the screen, the charger is on the side so it can be used while standing upright. For me its an all round upgrade. I first thought 2 inches wont make a difference, but the diffrence in size is definetely there. For me though rooting the 12.2 is a must, you have to adjust the dpi. If you dont adjust the dpi the 12.2 is just an upscaled 10.1. The same amount of content fits on the screen. Only when you adjust the dpi to match the 10.1 you will get the benefit of the larger screen. Also the dev forum on the 12.2 is empty, you wont get any custom roms any time soon.
Hmmm,
Surface Pro 3?
I like my 10.1, and would not trade up to a larger tablet, but that is just me. I tried out a surface 3 the day they came out, and my primary reaction was big and heavy, but they have some extra capabilities.
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Hi XDA,
I am considering getting the Note 10.1 2014 LTE version. However as a Student this is a very expensive Device to buy and there are some Questions i have to get answers to first before i can justify getting one. I hope some of you can help me find out what i need to get answers too.
I am studying computer science and i want to use it as a full replacement for pen and paper (Is that even realistically possible?). I have had some time with it in the store but some first hand everyday experience would be very much appreciated. I will try to categorize my questions.
Notetaking
Screen Protectors
Do they work with the Stylus and if so how well?
S-Note
In my short time with the device i noticed that S-Note does not support Portrait mode for the "virtual page" im writing on. Is that true and if so are there alternative apps that work with the S-Pen and allow for portrait notetaking?
Speed and Precision
I usually have to write down a LOT of Math stuff. Can you write fast enough on the note 10.1 to write during a lecture? Is it precise enough for small index numbers etc.?
Samsungs Software (and how i can get rid of their butt-ugly touchwiz crap?)
Lags and Stuff
During my shot time with the device i noticed a lot of lag and applications that were just pathetically slow compared to my Nexus 7 first gen with CM (this little Tab with CM is just so fast it's insane. Literally zero lag all around and insane performance even when HEAVILY Multitasking). Have the recent updates fixed this problem (well it's samsung so lets say made it less bad than before)?
Touchwizz
How much of the Touchwizz features i don't need can be deactivated? if deactived do they make it perform better?
Other Apps
Have you noticed any Problems with other Apps that usually work fine?
Custom Rom Stuff
General Support
I know this device is just on the market but comming from Nexus Devices i really don't want to stick with Samsungs Rom. How good/bad has the Rom Support for other Samsung Devices been in the past? What Problems will i face?
Rooting and Knox
WTF is Knox and why do i have to care when i root. I really don't get what that is and why it exists. Maybe someone can enlighten me
This is my Wishlist for a Custom Rom. Will that ever happen?
CyanogenMod/Stock Based Roms that are just as ridiculously fast as my N7
S-Pen Support for Notetaking (with anything other than S-Note)
Multiwindow Support (i suppose that is bound to touchwizz but have there been ROMs that integrated it into Stock-ish Android before?)
Hardware
Battery life
I have to get out of the house at 7 AM and im Back Home around 5-6PM. In this time this device will be used literally the entire time. I have Wireless Access most of the time so i don't have to rely on LTE completly. Can the Battery handle that? Will the Battery be able to handle this 2 years down the road?
Bigger Stylus
Well writing with the small S-Pen is a really ****ty experience. It's just too flimsy. Has anyone tried any Bigger Wacom Pens that work with the Note?
Smart Wake
Does the Note 10 Support waking up from standby like apples smartcover (and my N7)?
Cover
Talking about Smartcovers. How good are Samsungs Covers for the Note 10.1?
I know this is a very very long list and i am totally fine with any answers that just link to a site or something but i really hope that this device can do what it's named after.
Thanks for any answer i really appreciate them!
I'm studying computer science myself and found the tablet to be amazing for taking notes with. I've been using LectureNotes and its extremely flexible to suit whatever your note taking preference is. It does support portrait mode, but I would recommend using it in landscape (you can adjust the page size and just scroll down). As for writing with the s-pen it does get annoying after some time due to the size.
As for using a stylus there is this huge on going thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2484014
In short, no stylus works perfectly for our tablets aside from the s-pen it comes with. Most of the active styluses do "work" but have an offset of a few mm when writing at an angle (if you hold it straight up it aligns perfectly). For myself, I'm using a surface pro pen and compensated the offset on lecturenotes. I can hardly tell the difference at all.
Here is a screenshot of my notes from my algorithm class: http://i.imgur.com/NsPYFia.png
CircleSquare said:
I'm studying computer science myself and found the tablet to be amazing for taking notes with. I've been using LectureNotes and its extremely flexible to suit whatever your note taking preference is. It does support portrait mode, but I would recommend using it in landscape (you can adjust the page size and just scroll down). As for writing with the s-pen it does get annoying after some time due to the size.
As for using a stylus there is this huge on going thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2484014
In short, no stylus works perfectly for our tablets aside from the s-pen it comes with. Most of the active styluses do "work" but have an offset of a few mm when writing at an angle (if you hold it straight up it aligns perfectly). For myself, I'm using a surface pro pen and compensated the offset on lecturenotes. I can hardly tell the difference at all.
Here is a screenshot of my notes from my algorithm class: http://i.imgur.com/NsPYFia.png
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Thanks for the Quick Reply. That does look very much like it will suit my needs. Would you say you can use it to completly replace pen and paper?
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Thanks for the Quick Reply. That does look very much like it will suit my needs. Would you say you can use it to completly replace pen and paper?
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Haven't used a pen and paper the entire term to take notes! It's actually a lot faster once you get used to it. Copy and pasting helps out a ton when the professor is explaining concepts on the same graph.
Screen Protectors
I don't use them, but have a fellow student that uses one and it seems to work well. Bare in mind it adds some friction if you get a mate screenprotector.
S-Note
Nope never used never tried and just got LectureNotes from the start. I also write in portrait mode. Most fellow students like to write in landscape. I have found that I can write extremely small and read it and don't like to scroll down all the time.
Speed and Precision
Yes it's fast enough. I write in my maths lecture. For me it's faster than paper. I use the plastic tip and there is hardly any friction so the pen moves very fast. Only thing that takes time is when you have to fiddle with menus or stuff like that.
Samsungs Software (and how i can get rid of their butt-ugly touchwiz crap?)
Lags and Stuff
I have had no problems with my device. Even at the beginning I didn't really notice much lag. But there are lots of people that have complained. Once you disable a bunch of touchwiz apps it flies.
Touchwizz
If you disable some touchwiz stuff it will perform a bit faster. I disabled everything but S-Note, Alarms, Action Note and the S-Pen SDK.
Other Apps
Due to the high pixel density some apps that aren't optimized (are badly coded) and perform lots of drawing might not perform as well. But other than that no real issues.
Custom Rom Stuff
General Support
The rom support has been bad. But this is the first device I bought in the launch week so it might pick up.
Rooting and Knox
If you root the know counter will be tripped and you allegedly lose warranty. It seems to be some corporate app allowing you to separate work and company data.
This is my Wishlist for a Custom Rom. Will that ever happen?
S-Pen Support for Notetaking (with anything other than S-Note)
There are native API for styluses as long as the drivers work the native API's should work too
Multiwindow Support (i suppose that is bound to touchwizz but have there been ROMs that integrated it into Stock-ish Android before?)
The multiwindow support on touchwiz is the best I have seen so far.
Hardware
Battery life
My battery lasts about 7 hours with screen on. If you need more battery life get an external battery. They are really cheap, in germany i can get one for 40 bucks with double the capacity as the internal battery.
Bigger Stylus
There seems to be one wacom stylus that works, there is a thread about it. I like the small pen, it's light and I don't get tired when writing with it.
Smart Wake
yes supports the smart wake
Cover
I have an ivso cover i got from amazon.de I'm happy with it
I got the Note about a month ago or so for university. I didn't really plan on replacing paper with that, but no I don't use paper at all anymore. I have found that I can keep stuff organized a lot better in a digital form. If I ever get a sheet of paper I will either run to the scanners scattered around our university and scan it or take a picture and annotate that instead of the actual paper . It really depends on the way of learning if you can "think digitally". A fellow student got the old model and returned it after a week because he found it too distracting. But for me the Note really fits into my way of thinking and doing stuff, but I'm a real techy person, who programs and sees a higher value in having information in a digital form.
To add about knox: If you get squaretrade warranty, someone in another thread said they don't care if you trip it or not and will still honor the warranty.
These are very uplifting answers for me. Heaving two people confirm that you can replace paper with it is almost enough to buy it. I ****ing hate paper... to much clutter...
I very much appreciate all the answers und Grüße aus Aachen an alle
I've replaced paper, not at school, but in office. All note taking in meetings, all "to do" lists are now done on the tablet (I made the conversion a year ago with the original Note 10.1, new one is even better).
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These are very uplifting answers for me. Heaving two people confirm that you can replace paper with it is almost enough to buy it. I ****ing hate paper... to much clutter...
I very much appreciate all the answers und Grüße aus Aachen an alle
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In my local Media Markt they have it for 500€, easier to return if something happens. Might want to check because only it's roughly the same price as online.
This is the case I have, there is pretty much only one case on amazon.de anyways.
Also look at the colors. I have choosen white because it reminds me of paper. Also the contrast between white on the screen and a black border is too harsh in my opinion.
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In my local Media Markt they have it for 500€, easier to return if something happens. Might want to check because only it's roughly the same price as online.
This is the case I have, there is pretty much only one case on amazon.de anyways.
Also look at the colors. I have choosen white because it reminds me of paper. Also the contrast between white on the screen and a black border is too harsh in my opinion.
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I have the same case, it's perfect.
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detrexer said:
Thanks for the Quick Reply. That does look very much like it will suit my needs. Would you say you can use it to completly replace pen and paper?
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Yes, it has completely replaced paper for me. At work I need to draw on photos and diagrams etc to send to people. Before I got the Note, I had to print a photo, draw on it, and scan it back in, then attach it to an email.
Using LectureNotes I can just do everything on the tablet and email straight from it. My work notebook is up to about 300 pages now. LectureNotes enables you to email a single page or selection of pages as a pdf straight from the app.
I still like to have a paper notebook to flick through, so I print out my notebook as I go. Of course if I lose it, I can just print it again, unlike a paper notebook...
LectureNotes is complicated to set up initially, but well worth it - once it's set up right, it's amazingly powerful.
If you want a spare s-pen, you can buy one for the old Note 10.1 and trim the back of the nib slightly. This gets rid of any offset.
I did that, then put it into a pen case to make it like a real pen - photos here: http://flickr.com/gp/jackhenriques/d68460/
So I'm thinking of picking up a Note 8.0, and would like to ask two questions before I do so.
1. Is the note taking quality (inking, lack of lag, etc.) on the 8.0 the same as the 2014 10.1 edition?
2. How is the screen quality on reading an ebook or PDF? Any pixelation?
Thanks in advance.
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So I'm thinking of picking up a Note 8.0, and would like to ask two questions before I do so.
1. Is the note taking quality (inking, lack of lag, etc.) on the 8.0 the same as the 2014 10.1 edition?
2. How is the screen quality on reading an ebook or PDF? Any pixelation?
Thanks in advance.
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1. Cannot compare as have not tried Edition 10.1, but if you mean free-hand note taking then I don't feel any lag/latency in s-note or write app as well as few others. There are some apps (vector) that have some lag, but that imo is more due to app internal issues than device itself. Handwriting recognition obviously has lag and latency by design.
2. My primary purpose is notes/drawing and lots of reading, and find it very good, (much better than having a secondary 24" HD monitor in portrait).
Unless you are reading very tiny(micro italic text) font rendering is very good. It also has setting of making text more legible (smoothing/anti-aliasing/ClearType) that also helps a bit.
Just get some decent book reader app and that's all. I can't tell any pixelation even with it as close as 3 inches from eyes and that I consider good enough for all practical purposes than pixel peeping/hunting. Sure there are some jagged edges if you look close for them but unnoticeable for any normal reading/viewing distance.
My only gripe is the aspect ratio with digital magazines I have subscriptions for. pdf /CBZ/CBR as those usually suit more to 4:3 than to 16:8 (white space in portrait fit width mode), but so is the issue with any other tab too samsung or otherwise other than the iPads).
Han Solo 1 said:
So I'm thinking of picking up a Note 8.0, and would like to ask two questions before I do so.
1. Is the note taking quality (inking, lack of lag, etc.) on the 8.0 the same as the 2014 10.1 edition?
2. How is the screen quality on reading an ebook or PDF? Any pixelation?
Thanks in advance.
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1. I like it a lot. I use for my College Courses many times. I also take pictures of handouts so I can keep it in my notes(I lose worksheets easily).
2. You can notice the pixels if you look closely. If you are reading normally it should not be a problem. I use it to read many textbooks and casual reading books.I also watch netflix very easily.
note 10.1 Should be better(That is why it is more expensive) but if you want just a to go tablet, Note 8.0 is for you
P.S.: If you can wait longer, Samsung will probably release a 2.0 version of the tablet. Should probably be much better.
Thanks for the responses!
I bought the 8.0 a few days ago, and while I like the compact design and the screen size, I can't get past the slight pixelation while viewing PDF's (I sold my retina mini to get this, so I'm used to a very good display).
I'm going to return it and go for the 10.1-14. I need a tablet for work and school, both of which require frequent note-taking and PDF annotation. I simply can't wait for an 8.0 refresh, since I only have 14 days to return.
Oh well.
Great tablet, almost perfect.
Han Solo 1 said:
Thanks for the responses!
I bought the 8.0 a few days ago, and while I like the compact design and the screen size, I can't get past the slight pixelation while viewing PDF's (I sold my retina mini to get this, so I'm used to a very good display).
I'm going to return it and go for the 10.1-14. I need a tablet for work and school, both of which require frequent note-taking and PDF annotation. I simply can't wait for an 8.0 refresh, since I only have 14 days to return.
Oh well.
Great tablet, almost perfect.
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I have both and the 10.1 2014 Edition is much better for constant note taking. The 10.1 is much snappier as well.
How does the battery life compare between the two?
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How does the battery life compare between the two?
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The Note 10.1 2014 has much better battery life.
I am an online student looking for a tablet. I am wondering if you would suggest the Note 10.1 2014 or the Note Pro? Maybe something different altogether? Thanks for any suggestions.
I assume you mean the Tab Pro?
If you're going to take notes on it, definitely the Note. The stylus is perfect for note taking. But you did mention it's an online class, so maybe you wouldn't take notes for it? If not then the only thing left to consider is the Note has 1gb more ram.
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I assume you mean the Tab Pro?
If you're going to take notes on it, definitely the Note. The stylus is perfect for note taking. But you did mention it's an online class, so maybe you wouldn't take notes for it? If not then the only thing left to consider is the Note has 1gb more ram.
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I think ual470 actually meant what he/she said, Note Pro which is the 12.2" older brother. It can be all very confusing haha.
I would go for the Note 10.1 2014.
The size is perfect for lugging about, it has exact same specs as Note Pro so you wont be losing out, and hopefully we should be getting KitKat 4.4 soon to give us Pro features but we have to wait and see what the story is with the update. Oh and most importantly its much cheaper.
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Ah, I wasn't even thinking about the 12 incher. Just the 10s.
The 12 is huge. I played with it in the store at the same time as the 10 and it just felt unnecessarily large. The 10 felt perfect, at least to me. If you have a retail location near you that carries th, go check them both out in person. Just because I thought the 12 was too big, or may not.
I like my Note 10.1 for class. I use Lecture Note for most everything. The stylus is superb. I am thinking of adding a keyboard case once Logitech releases one of for the Tab 10.1 Pro. The dimensions are nearly identical. The Note is just a sliver thicker.
Homer
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I am an online student looking for a tablet. I am wondering if you would suggest the Note 10.1 2014 or the Note Pro? Maybe something different altogether? Thanks for any suggestions.
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If your a student get a windows tab with am active digitizer, OneNote has no competitors worthy of mention. The Note pro 12 inch is nearly the cost of the Surface Pro 2, get that instead. You can also find the first SP for sale at 500 or less quite often if you need cheaper options.
Don't get me wrong the note is a solid android tablet, but for education and note taking, I love using it.However as a student, OneNote is the only way, lecturenote and other alternatives doesn't come close. Personally I also think price wise its a better value but to each hos own.
Here's what I'm looking for: I want to take notes and record audio of the lecture at the same time. Additionally, I'd like the notes to be linked to the audio so that after the lecture when I tap on that particular note it will play the audio at that point in time when the note was written. Any such app?
@TabGuy: LectureNotes with LectureRecordings extension can do that.
DISCLAIMER: I am the developer of these apps.
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@TabGuy: LectureNotes with LectureRecordings extension can do that.
DISCLAIMER: I am the developer of these apps.
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Developer of lecturenotes?
Hi ur the best and i use ur app more than i use toilet paper
Also i feel like galaxy note 10 2014 is best for school stuff because it has that s pen detection so u can ret ur palm on the screen while writing.
Also thw s pen is extremely responsive like a real life pen
Thanks
Hey thanks for the reminder... I didn't think of the surface. I went ahead with the surface pro. I found a great deal on Swappa that included a lot of the accessories. After researching, a windows tab made much more sense with one note. I love the Note 10.1 and Note Pro 12" but felt the Surface Pro would meet my needs the best. Thank you all for your input!
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If your a student get a windows tab with am active digitizer, OneNote has no competitors worthy of mention. The Note pro 12 inch is nearly the cost of the Surface Pro 2, get that instead. You can also find the first SP for sale at 500 or less quite often if you need cheaper options.
Don't get me wrong the note is a solid android tablet, but for education and note taking, I love using it.However as a student, OneNote is the only way, lecturenote and other alternatives doesn't come close. Personally I also think price wise its a better value but to each hos own.
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Developer of lecturenotes?
Hi ur the best and i use ur app more than i use toilet paper
Also i feel like galaxy note 10 2014 is best for school stuff because it has that s pen detection so u can ret ur palm on the screen while writing.
Also thw s pen is extremely responsive like a real life pen
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OneNote still the way to go, see http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/onenote-help/record-audio-and-video-notes-HA010121254.aspx
I probably sound like a MS promoter but the sad fact is OneNote is just that good. No other software comes close. You should definitely use what you have but if you got a choice, OneNote
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Hey thanks for the reminder... I didn't think of the surface. I went ahead with the surface pro. I found a great deal on Swappa that included a lot of the accessories. After researching, a windows tab made much more sense with one note. I love the Note 10.1 and Note Pro 12" but felt the Surface Pro would meet my needs the best. Thank you all for your input!
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Yeah fortunate for students MS liquidating the first gen SP. Only issue I would say is battery life if you have back to back long lectures that are away from an outlet. Have fun using it.
Two fellow students of mine have the surface 2 pro. I myself have the note 10.1 2014. If you need certain windows programs to run or be able to type long papers with office, the surface is probably a good compromise.
But they run around with a charger all the time and that thing is heavy. I usually have my bt keyboard in the bag if I need it. And note taking and pdf annotation is just perfect with the note 10.1 and that's what I need 95% of the time. And for the other stuff I have my pc at home. I'm glad I went with the note. I think the surface is not there yet. I see what they're trying to do and i like it but too many compromises IMHO.
The other thing I'm looking at is a battery power bank for the surface. The other option is the type cover power bank they are releasing. The battery does worry me.
Thankfully I'm not on campus and only online, I will mostly be using it for notes, papers, windows apps, and digital textbooks. I was thinking the pro 2 but performance to cost ratio just isn't enough.
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The other thing I'm looking at is a battery power bank for the surface. The other option is the type cover power bank they are releasing. The battery does worry me.
Thankfully I'm not on campus and only online, I will mostly be using it for notes, papers, windows apps, and digital textbooks. I was thinking the pro 2 but performance to cost ratio just isn't enough.
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Despite the 4-hour battery life of the Surface Pro, you'll be much happier than running Android or an iPad with that crappy palm-blocking slide-up thing overlay and the fake digitizer....
I have been trying to get back to the way I felt when I used to take notes and do homework on my hp tx2500, running 7, OneNote (super heavy, full size laptop, but it ran and felt awesome).
I own the 2014 edition of 10.1 note, as well as its older brother. The difference between them is the screen. Performance wise, you won't notice any improvement in the 2014 edition over the older one when taking notes and opening up huge PDF textbooks. I am currently using the older one to take notes in school and do homework. The 2014 version has a crappy battery life (around 4 hours of classroom use), and no custom ROM that disables Samsung's simply idiotic "share screenshot" feature when drawing a circle on the screen while holding the spen button down. That "feature" blocks the use of pen gestures in so many apps, including Papyrus. If you were to buy it, you would have regretted it. Not to mention the KNOX stuff, which allows Samsung to dismiss anything that may go wrong with the device in the future (how come there's no class action suit yet?). They'll blame it on you for running "custom software", i.e. getting rid of 90% of Samsung & Google bloatware, so you can breathe and have a decent battery life.
For those of you who use the note, I use ez PDF Reader, it's the fastest PDF reader I found. I also use Papyrus to take notes, because it's the smoothest looking handwriting, and it's stable and fast, and has some good features, albeit its limitations, such as not allowing you to store 2-3 favorite pen settings on the top bar, or a one-button insert last screenshot in current note type deal. It's always a minimum of 3 taps to do something in that software... I have yet to find a good PowerPoint reader that displays the powerpoint slide as it was created on the desktop by the professor. Sometimes that's the biggest PITA, you'll have to export the PPT(x) as PDF beforehand.
So, congrats, I personally find your decision to be the best. I should have done the same instead of buying the crappy 2014 edition.
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Two fellow students of mine have the surface 2 pro. I myself have the note 10.1 2014. If you need certain windows programs to run or be able to type long papers with office, the surface is probably a good compromise.
But they run around with a charger all the time and that thing is heavy. I usually have my bt keyboard in the bag if I need it. And note taking and pdf annotation is just perfect with the note 10.1 and that's what I need 95% of the time. And for the other stuff I have my pc at home. I'm glad I went with the note. I think the surface is not there yet. I see what they're trying to do and i like it but too many compromises IMHO.
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If your looking for a tablet 1st and productivity 2nd, the note is probably the best way to go (although cintiq companion hybrid hehehe). However I would still argue that as far as note taking goes, OneNote is still king. I've tried a mixture of stuff on Android and nothing really compares. Weight and battery are definitely downsides to a surface, but a modern atom tablet can probably pull it off. The Dell venue 11 pro may be what some are looking for although it uses inferior digitizer tech than wacom.
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The other thing I'm looking at is a battery power bank for the surface. The other option is the type cover power bank they are releasing. The battery does worry me.
Thankfully I'm not on campus and only online, I will mostly be using it for notes, papers, windows apps, and digital textbooks. I was thinking the pro 2 but performance to cost ratio just isn't enough.
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There are actually a few powerpacks that support the surface. I saw one on sale awhile back but for the life of me can't recall what it was. If your near an outlet, no big difference between 1st and 2nd Gen surface. Only thing that really gor improved was battery.
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There are actually a few powerpacks that support the surface. I saw one on sale awhile back but for the life of me can't recall what it was. If your near an outlet, no big difference between 1st and 2nd Gen surface. Only thing that really gor improved was battery.
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If you do need to move around though you need to be a weight lifter... After a little while with my surface RT, yes the crappy first edition, then swapping to the Note 10.1, 2014 or original, I find the Note definitely the lighter way to go. It has longer battery life without needing the power pack or battery pack, another 100 kilos of weight on my already straining back, and I find my Note lasts all day long...
It's up to the individual but my preference is definitely for the note...
The surface pro 2 is a nice machine but twice the price of a note. For my use as a digital replacement for a pen and paper notebook, I'd rather have something light with good battery life and an active digitiser. The Galaxy Note 2014 fits that bill.
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Loving my Note Pro
I'm all about lecture notes backed up into my ever note account, I also got the full size bamboo stylus. Honestly haven't tried one note but I've got lecture notes dialed in so it works great for me. In addition I run splashtop and a Logitech 810 BT keyboard so that I'm able to store and write all my papers in office remotely. I have the 10.1 2014 (rooted) and love it!
lecture notes kit kat question
I take all my notes with your app and have come to rely heavily on lecture notes (backed up to evernote). This app is leaps and bounds ahead of everything else ive tried. I recently installed the hashcheck- hybrid-v1 kitkat rom for the sm p600. Now when I'm writing there is a lag. I finish a word before it shows up. I tried switching the fast page, and temporary rendering settings in the display settings but it's really slow.
I'm really hoping you can help!
Thank You!
Hi, owners of galaxy note 10.1 2014, as a user of device I would like to know from you people what you miss in our beloved and hated device. I bought this device in hope to get a partial substitute for my school notebook, but I realize that paper for me is much better to study and here some problems that I found.
Lack of apps that combine good performace, good looking, usuability, simplicity and compability to pdf editing. I never found an app that is better than good notes from ios.
The distortion in border that I got with stylus that annoying
Difficult to find a good screen protector that works perfect with stylus (without grasp)
Very slow battery charge and performace (exynos version)
Screen quality, I can say exactaly but the screen reproduction is not the best for taking notes even with reading mode etc...
Screen size is not the best for reading
Slow multi-task window
Sorry, my english writing is not the best.
And leave your opinions :highfive:
Hi,
The only thing that I really don't like is the fake stitching and the 'green blue white black' status bar and settings colour scheme.
I managed to love all the other aspects of this device through persistent modding and tweaking of the device. It took me a while but I can now safely say that I'm in love with this device.
If you want I can walk you through the steps I took (and rom/apps I use) in order to achieve a more desirable experience.
The pentile screen tech is not a downer for me, and I can't complain about it as I'm coming from the original note 10.1
Performance is more then ideal for me(dunno about games) and the battery does charge slow. But taking into account that all tablet batteries charge slow (atleast 1,5 years ago) this isn't much of a big deal.
P.s Try Incredible, they're the devs of notes plus on ios. Best writing xp I've had thus far, but it's still lacking in the utility department.
Erai Dev. said:
Lack of apps that combine good performace, good looking, usuability, simplicity and compability to pdf editing. I never found an app that is better than good notes from ios.
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I agree with you that there are no perfect apps out there for pdf annotation. But I have been finding more and more that Adobe Reader is not too bad, at least for what I do. When I read or edit papers on pdfs, there are four annotation functions that I need:
- highlighting
- underlining
- adding text boxes
- adding sticky notes
Adobe Reader is capable of doing all of the above, with options of choosing color and font size. Most importantly, the file format remains unchanged as pdf after the annotations. This means I can see (and further edit) all the annotations on a Mac and PC.
So far, I have been quite happy using this for marking up manuscripts, although I am not sure if it could handle a much larger (longer) document such as a thesis with hi-res figures.
New tricks from note 4 , like apps minimize from corner and music and browser pop when ya click link or file that will not take full screen to play it for ya
I like my tablet and its one of the best i've ever seen , so bad samsung dont make new update for it and cares for making new devices only
Have you tried Lecture Notes?
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Do we realy need screen protectors anymore? been using my note 10.1 2012 edition daily since it came out and i still havent seen a scratch. get a descent case/skin and you should be set. unless yhou throw it around on the ground
I have an exynos version. It's pretty much 1/4 of the speed it needs to be, takes longer to charge than it has SOT.
Take this present from me and try xodo docs . It is the best pdf editing app on play store
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Erai Dev. said:
Hi, owners of galaxy note 10.1 2014, as a user of device I would like to know from you people what you miss in our beloved and hated device. I bought this device in hope to get a partial substitute for my school notebook, but I realize that paper for me is much better to study and here some problems that I found.
Lack of apps that combine good performace, good looking, usuability, simplicity and compability to pdf editing. I never found an app that is better than good notes from ios.
The distortion in border that I got with stylus that annoying
Difficult to find a good screen protector that works perfect with stylus (without grasp)
Very slow battery charge and performace (exynos version)
Screen quality, I can say exactaly but the screen reproduction is not the best for taking notes even with reading mode etc...
Screen size is not the best for reading
Slow multi-task window
Sorry, my english writing is not the best.
And leave your opinions :highfive:
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I am running the tab s rom on my note so its pretty fast and smooth. What I miss most on my note is the positioning of the micro usb port. I always wanted it to be on the right hand side rather than the bottom position. Other than that, well our device lacks heavily in the accessory delartment. So I can say a good keyboard.
Support from Samsung
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Since going back to school in Jan, I've been using a Samsung Notebook Pro 9 that I bought specifically for school but since building my monster desktop at home I've come to realize that now my notebook is overkill. Whilst I'm at school, I only need it to do some web browsing, writing papers on Word, some Power Point projects and really little else. So when I get home, it just sits inside my backpack until I get back to class the next day. Whatever school-related work I have to do when I'm home I continue on my desktop.
Because of this, I feel bad that the notebook sits untouched most of the time. I really can't justify keeping it if I'm not fully exploiting its capabilities. So this is why I'm considering getting the Tab S4 (w/keyboard) to use for school and also around the house because it's easier to handle compared to a notebook.
I wanted to ask if y'all think this is a sensible move. If I get this Tab S4, I'll be selling my the Notebook Pro 9.
I would get a tab S3. The keyboard is cheaper and you can find great deals on them.
The S4 excels at video with it's taller screen, but I find it a little awkward as a working tablet.
If you will use it for watching video also, the larger screen is much better, and the S4 is only an inch wider than the S3.
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My opinion is the S4 because of Dex. It's working great for multitasking when trying to actually get work done. Depending on what your doing and if you need windows programs would be the next thing( remote desktop may be an option). Also it would be hard to top the Notebook 9 as far as sheer performance the S4's Snapdragon 835 would not match the Core I7. But you may not need all that unless video rendering or other intensive task. Just my two cents.