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Thinking of buying this instead of a G3.

Hey,
so I just watched a review about the Oppo Find 7a. And I have to say that it I felt in love with it.
First I wanted to buy a LG-G3 because of its awesomeness, but know that I found the Find 7, I feel like I should buy this instead of the G3.
But there are a few things that I'd like to ask you before.
- Where's the difference between the 7 and the 7a? I heard the 7a owns a slower CPU/GPU, a smaller battery and a smaller resolution. And I also heard that the 7a seems to have the better display, because its more saturated, brighter and overall the viewing experience should be better than on the 7. Is that right?
- Will there be custom roms? I think I won't like the ColorOS, because I'm using "stock" android since 2 years now and I got pretty used to it. So I'd like to flash a custom rom, running KK4.4.2 (Omni,CM, ..). What do you think?
There are many things that I like on the 7 (MaxxSound, SD Slot, ..) that the G3 will not own. I am pretty unsure if I go with the G3 to get guaranteed custom roms and take out that it doesn't have such nice features as the 7, or I go with the 7 and maybe don't get custom roms :/ Whats your opinion?

for the differences between 7a and 7 is best to check here:
http://en.oppo.com/products/find7/#find7-specs
difficult to compare displays at this point because find 7 is not available yet. I saw that article with display comparison somewhere on the net, but these were pre-production units ant things may change by the time find 7 is available
custom roms for find 7a are already available (cm 11s port, gummy rom, omni, I heard MIUI will be available) so am sure that find 7 will get them too...
I switched from LG G2 to find 7a and must say I do not regret it..display is great, sound as well, phone is snappy...
was just one of that unlucky guys which got units with yellow tint at the bottom of the screen. but have already contacted oppostyle and agreed with them that if the tint will not go away within one week, they will replace the phone

hi,
I bought my selve a find 7a and i can tell you that it is one of the better phones i have owned.
personally i think that on this moment the 1440p screen in the find 7 will be to demanding for other internal components.
and about the roms, i've been flashing some now and ican tell you that even in this beta stage, they all run almost flawless.
i wish you good luck deciding.

The find 7a has some great hardware but so far was a mediocre choice in terms of software.
Thanks to the recent wave of custom ROM goodness though it's become a extremely viable option.

IMO the hardware is solid and holds its own with anything available now, the software not so much. I cant say for certain but IMO the alpha roms all of which I have now tried show extremely great promise and its my belief that the software side of the equation will be as solid as the hardware sooner rather than later. I would say that were I on the fence now I would wait for the 7 to get a little closer before I bought in. It may be you want to go that way (or not) and you will have answers very soon on the worthiness of the upgrade from 7A.

Thank you all so far!
So, it's not long until LG will present their new G3. I will wait til the final release, when the final specs are published. Then I have a direct comparison between those two.
But it seems like I will choose the F7/a because of the MaxxSound feature and for expandable memory which LG obviously won't implement to the G3. And if you all tell that you're looking forward to custom roms on the F7, then there's another reason for me to pick it

furiify said:
Thank you all so far!
So, it's not long until LG will present their new G3. I will wait til the final release, when the final specs are published. Then I have a direct comparison between those two.
But it seems like I will choose the F7/a because of the MaxxSound feature and for expandable memory which LG obviously won't implement to the G3. And if you all tell that you're looking forward to custom roms on the F7, then there's another reason for me to pick it
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Well, there are multiple reports suggesting that the G3 will have a microSD slot. I mean.. it will most probably support UHD recording.. and where do you expect anyone to store all that data?
Not so familiar with MaxxSound, but I tested the 7a a few days ago and I was super pleased, just as tested by GSMarena.
As for G3, there are reports on it having a 1W speaker, and that's gonna be loud too.
So.. IF what I said were to be true, then the G3 being a smaller (and possibly lighter) device would be a winner. End of the day, the cost also matters.
Waiting for announcement here as well...

Keep in mind that MaxxSound or MaxxAudio (or whatever it was called) goes away if you install a different ROM. Some features such as double tap to open are in some of the ROMs, but some might not be.
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Pick_A_Name said:
Keep in mind that MaxxSound or MaxxAudio (or whatever it was called) goes away if you install a different ROM. Some features such as double tap to open are in some of the ROMs, but some might not be.
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I don't think that it is so hard to add it to a custom rom or is it? I mean ROM-makers do/did incredible stuff.
Awaiting today's LG-G3 livestream presentation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFPZO2fcAUo

just seen a video for g3 and it looks stunning

[Q] Is there a problem with OPPO's Manufacturing?

Why is the Find 7A U S version so hard to come by through "official" distribution channels? Forget about the Find 7 qhd which is still to launch in the U S but the 7A has been out for a few months. Is there a problem with the screen that they're fixing? There seems to be plenty of the Chinese version floating around though. Or is OPPO just not that serious about being an international force? Since both the OPO and the Find 7A are coming from the same factory and both are scarce at this time (I know the OPO was delayed due to supposed firmware update) but again there seems to be plenty Chinese versions of the OPO available as well.
Just wondering if anyone has insight, more so than my Google search.
UPDATE-Just like that the U.S. version of the Find 7A is back on the OPPO Style site! I'm very excited to get my hands on this phone and take it for a test drive.

Birdsfan said:
Why is the Find 7A U S version so hard to come by through "official" distribution channels? Forget about the Find 7 qhd which is still to launch in the U S but the 7A has been out for a few months. Is there a problem with the screen that they're fixing? There seems to be plenty of the Chinese version floating around though. Or is OPPO just not that serious about being an international force? Since both the OPO and the Find 7A are coming from the same factory and both are scarce at this time (I know the OPO was delayed due to supposed firmware update) but again there seems to be plenty Chinese versions of the OPO available as well.
Just wondering if anyone has insight, more so than my Google search.
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Chinese versions might be more profitable?
Dunno. I think demand in the West is far greater than expected.

Entropy512 said:
Chinese versions might be more profitable?
Dunno. I think demand in the West is far greater than expected.
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Thanks for the quick reply Entropy512. Once I get my hands on either the 7 or 7A I'll be rocking your ROM ASAP!

I agree with Entropy512. It is probably a cheaper and therefore more profitable distribution channel for China. I ended up getting mine on Swappa.
Sent from my Find7a using Tapatalk

Probably because they are splitting their building of the Find7, with the OnePlus One smartphone.
Since One Plus has not manufacturing capabilities, Oppo builds it. 30,000 (per OnePlus) each day.
Too many orders, not enough manufacturing capabilities.

The U. S. version is already sold out and with the OPO international in such short supply I would guess OPPO and OP are focusing on China only. Also let's face it OPPO and OP should be considered one in the same.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app

The Oneplus is canibalizing Find 7 production. It is a mix of 7a/7QHD parts and is in very high demand due to its price. This is only my opinion of course

BQ Aquaris X Pro

After my Nexus 5x turned in to a brick I spent a while looking for something suitably Nexus like. the 5x was my third Nexus after a 4 and 5, I had become accustomed to the unadulterated vanilla Android in a well built, reasonably priced package. Since Google seem to have abandoned the Nexus line and with the Pixel being more expensive than I would like I set about finding something different.
Looking for a reasonably priced phone with Vanilla Android and all the usual bits I like (fingerprint, NFC, Android Pay, USB Type-C) I kept seeing the BQ Aquaris X Pro popping up in my searches. I considered and discard Motorola as the price points I was looking at didn't have all of the options I wanted. I considered various Chinese brands but was wary of build quality I've seen in the past. So in the end I opted for the BQ Aquaris X Pro and it arrived yesterday.
So far, I am very happy. At just under £400 for the phone and a case the value seems great. It's a really well made, very good looking phone. With a Snapdragon 626 chip, 4GB RAM and 64GB storage (plus I have added a 128GB SDXC card for my music) I am happy that it is future proof enough not to need an upgrade for a few years.
It feel great in the hand, it really has a feel of quality. The screen is bright and so far all of my apps have been buttery smooth. With the camera out of the Galaxy S7 photos are good quality too.
I will see how it goes over the next few weeks but so far it's all good, battery is lasting well thus far.
If you are looking for something to replace a Nexus then this is a very good option, hopefully some more reviews will pop up online soon.

gingermonkey said:
After my Nexus 5x turned in to a brick I spent a while looking for something suitably Nexus like. the 5x was my third Nexus after a 4 and 5, I had become accustomed to the unadulterated vanilla Android in a well built, reasonably priced package. Since Google seem to have abandoned the Nexus line and with the Pixel being more expensive than I would like I set about finding something different.
Looking for a reasonably priced phone with Vanilla Android and all the usual bits I like (fingerprint, NFC, Android Pay, USB Type-C) I kept seeing the BQ Aquaris X Pro popping up in my searches. I considered and discard Motorola as the price points I was looking at didn't have all of the options I wanted. I considered various Chinese brands but was wary of build quality I've seen in the past. So in the end I opted for the BQ Aquaris X Pro and it arrived yesterday.
So far, I am very happy. At just under £400 for the phone and a case the value seems great. It's a really well made, very good looking phone. With a Snapdragon 626 chip, 4GB RAM and 64GB storage (plus I have added a 128GB SDXC card for my music) I am happy that it is future proof enough not to need an upgrade for a few years.
It feel great in the hand, it really has a feel of quality. The screen is bright and so far all of my apps have been buttery smooth. With the camera out of the Galaxy S7 photos are good quality too.
I will see how it goes over the next few weeks but so far it's all good, battery is lasting well thus far.
If you are looking for something to replace a Nexus then this is a very good option, hopefully some more reviews will pop up online soon.
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Hi. Thanks for the quick review.
If you can, please upload a video with and without OIS and a few low light photos. Thank you.

gingermonkey said:
After my Nexus 5x turned in to a brick I spent a while looking for something suitably Nexus like. the 5x was my third Nexus after a 4 and 5, I had become accustomed to the unadulterated vanilla Android in a well built, reasonably priced package. Since Google seem to have abandoned the Nexus line and with the Pixel being more expensive than I would like I set about finding something different.
Looking for a reasonably priced phone with Vanilla Android and all the usual bits I like (fingerprint, NFC, Android Pay, USB Type-C) I kept seeing the BQ Aquaris X Pro popping up in my searches. I considered and discard Motorola as the price points I was looking at didn't have all of the options I wanted. I considered various Chinese brands but was wary of build quality I've seen in the past. So in the end I opted for the BQ Aquaris X Pro and it arrived yesterday.
So far, I am very happy. At just under £400 for the phone and a case the value seems great. It's a really well made, very good looking phone. With a Snapdragon 626 chip, 4GB RAM and 64GB storage (plus I have added a 128GB SDXC card for my music) I am happy that it is future proof enough not to need an upgrade for a few years.
It feel great in the hand, it really has a feel of quality. The screen is bright and so far all of my apps have been buttery smooth. With the camera out of the Galaxy S7 photos are good quality too.
I will see how it goes over the next few weeks but so far it's all good, battery is lasting well thus far.
If you are looking for something to replace a Nexus then this is a very good option, hopefully some more reviews will pop up online soon.
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I changed my HTC 10 to the Xpro, and I must say it`s really nice! It`s a very nice build quality and the software is almost untouched Vanilla Android 7.1.1
I don`t feel any difference in Speed, but the SOT is a lot better. Would love to see any LOS development in the future!
By now, there is only the htcmania forum and some here in Germany, but root and twrp are already accomplished.

bonzai80 said:
I changed my HTC 10 to the Xpro, and I must say it`s really nice! It`s a very nice build quality and the software is almost untouched Vanilla Android 7.1.1
I don`t feel any difference in Speed, but the SOT is a lot better. Would love to see any LOS development in the future!
By now, there is only the htcmania forum and some here in Germany, but root and twrp are already accomplished.
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Happy to find another owner!
Have you tried Android Pay yet? I am currently working with Google support having been pointed in their direction by BQ support. Android Pay is not working as it is failing SafetyNet check despite not being rooted, having an unlocked bootloader or any custom ROMS. Not working out of the box has me a tad concerned...

what about audio quality? APT-X BT and Sabre ESS DAC

So gingermonkey, what are your current thoughts on your phone.
Also, I am particularly keen to know if the gps works well.
Thanks

hi
i do need to push the mobile from android 7.1.1 to 7.1.2 at least, cause of some bugs related to call recording
anyone is cooking a personalized rom for this device or knows whom i could ask?
thank you

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Does the Aquaris X (Pro variant or non-Pro) have the adoptable storage option, i.e., the option to format a micro SD card to be a virtual part of the internal storage? I believe it is a standard option in Android Nougat, but may be disabled by a manufacturer.

possible there isn't an aquaris x pro section on xda????

ironia. said:
possible there isn't an aquaris x pro section on xda????
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It looks like it. iIwas very surprised after buying the phone and searching for the category here
At the moment i am collecting all information needed to unlock/flash/root and plan to create a thread here on xda.
Not sure where to create a new topic, but i think it can be moved afterward by a moderator when the appropriate main category has been created..
Any idea, how to start the main category? -I am below the 10 post threshold, so maybe i simply can't see it..?
edit [2017-09-23]:
Have to correct myself - 10 post limit is only for dev forum.
Info for other new users, take a look here: [GUIDE] - XDA New User Guide - Getting started on XDA
edit [2017-09-23]:
As mentioned above, I collected some information and took notes while unlocking and flashing my phone. Take a look here: [HOW-TO] BQ Aquaris X Pro | [Stock-ROM] Unlock,Recovery,Root,Upgrade (TWRP/Magisk)

Requested a BQ Forum here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=73765067&postcount=22236
Don't know anything about the decision process

I have an Acquaris X pro 128 gb with 128gb samsung evo sd card.
Usually the touch seems not great, i have some problem when i'm writing and whith daily using. Some fixes? Maybe i have to change screen dp?
My default is 423

I confirm...it's normal that the touch isn't great...

re: aquaris x pro section on xda
ironia. said:
possible there isn't an aquaris x pro section on xda????
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At the moment it seems so, unfortunately, I am waiting for that, too...
Though it is very nice that there are already experimental images available at the site android-hilfe.de (link mentioned above), so development has started! I am looking forward to the first stable release... *thumbs up*

ljoova said:
what about audio quality? APT-X BT and Sabre ESS DAC
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The Aquaris X Pro has a ES9118 Sabre DAC and supports aptX. In my opinion, the audio quality is superb, both via BT (using aptX) as well as analog headphones.

ryazor said:
The Aquaris X Pro has a ES9118 Sabre DAC and supports aptX. In my opinion, the audio quality is superb, both via BT (using aptX) as well as analog headphones.
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Where are you find ES9118 Sabre related information, please? DAC can be accessed with any player?

dadme said:
Where are you find ES9118 Sabre related information, please? DAC can be accessed with any player?
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For example here. Of course you can use any player.

I need a copy of modemst1 & modemst2
Hi, since some months I haven't got IMEI number, I've lost it and I really don't know how, I surpose I did
Code:
fastboot erase modemst1
Code:
fastboot erase modemst2
and now I can't call, and no internet. My phone detects SIM card, but no signal. If I "call" *#06# the popup onli shows the word "IMEI" I forgot serial number too, now is 1234567890ABCDEF. I think that my last option is buy a new PCB, but I didn't found it anywhere. As a last option, I decided to type here and ask for some help... Can someone send me a copy of modemst1 and modemst2 please? I don't know if that is possible, but if that can be possible and someone send me a copy, I will be very grateful.
Thanks in advance,
Miguel Ángel.

Suggestion for the next phone after Zuk Z2 Plus

There was a small discussion in the AEX 6.7 thread started by @mcalistri asking for a suggestion to replace his Zuk Z2 Plus with another one. His suggestion was Pixel 3A and Nokia 7.2. I too asked if the OnePlus 6T is a good option. @selvarajrajkanna and @GopalKaul answered both of us and suggested K20 Pro and Pixel 3A. Since it is not good to discuss this in AEX thread I'm continuing that discussion here.
My suggestions and the summary of the discussion:
- OnePlus 7 (but the development is not in a good position; I read a few threads there. Also the 7T is on the way so buying a new one would not be a better idea I think)
- OnePlus 6T (if you want to stay on stock rom because oxygen os is good. - suggested by selvarajrajkanna. I found a few pre-owned 6Ts and also my friend has one, that's why I suggested it)
- Pixel 3A (have better camera and if camera is the only priority - suggested by selvarajrajkanna and mcalistri)
- Redmi K20 Pro (suggested by GopalKaul and selvarajrajkanna because it has latest chipset, 3.5mm jack, bigger battery, etc.)
- Nokia 7.2 (suggested by mcalistri)
- Poco F1 (if on a tight budget - suggested by GopalKaul)
Also please tell if you have any other good options or suggestions in this list. I'll update this post if anything relevant is posted. Our Z2 Plus started with 6.0 and went through 7.0, 8.0 and 9.0 without any serious performance issues. So I think Android Q will also work flawlessly. But if any Z2 Plus owner who like to replace it with another one and also expect a legend like Z2 this post may/should help. Thanks for taking the time to read this long post. ?

niyonsv said:
There was a small discussion in the AEX 6.7 thread started by @mcalistri asking for a suggestion to replace his Zuk Z2 Plus with another one. His suggestion was Pixel 3A and Nokia 7.2. I too asked if the OnePlus 6T is a good option. @selvarajrajkanna and @GopalKaul answered both of us and suggested K20 Pro and Pixel 3A. Since it is not good to discuss this in AEX thread I'm continuing that discussion here.
My suggestions and the summary of the discussion:
- OnePlus 7 (but the development is not in a good position; I read a few threads there. Also the 7T is on the way so buying a new one would not be a better idea I think)
- OnePlus 6T (if you want to stay on stock rom because oxygen os is good. - suggested by selvarajrajkanna. I found a few pre-owned 6Ts and also my friend has one, that's why I suggested it)
- Pixel 3A (have better camera and if camera is the only priority - suggested by selvarajrajkanna and mcalistri)
- Redmi K20 Pro (suggested by GopalKaul and selvarajrajkanna because it has latest chipset, 3.5mm jack, bigger battery, etc.)
- Nokia 7.2 (suggested by mcalistri)
- Poco F1 (if on a tight budget - suggested by GopalKaul)
Also please tell if you have any other good options or suggestions in this list. I'll update this post if anything relevant is posted. Our Z2 Plus started with 6.0 and went through 7.0, 8.0 and 9.0 without any serious performance issues. So I think Android Q will also work flawlessly. But if any Z2 Plus owner who like to replace it with another one and also expect a legend like Z2 this post may/should help. Thanks for taking the time to read this long post. ?
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In reality I have not suggested any devices ?
Nokia could be a good choice for what I remember about its Zeiss Camera lenses, I could appreciate it on my Nokia Lumia which now it's gone to paradise.
I honestly am tempted to take the pixel 3a but I live in Brazil and here it is more expensive due to the importation taxes.
The K20 if I'm not wrong, is a bit strange to my eyes because it has a lifting camera jumping from the outside of the chassis.
The choice is not so easy also because the old Zuk-Z2 is working extremely well

niyonsv said:
There was a small discussion in the AEX 6.7 thread started by @mcalistri asking for a suggestion to replace his Zuk Z2 Plus with another one. His suggestion was Pixel 3A and Nokia 7.2. I too asked if the OnePlus 6T is a good option. @selvarajrajkanna and @GopalKaul answered both of us and suggested K20 Pro and Pixel 3A. Since it is not good to discuss this in AEX thread I'm continuing that discussion here.
My suggestions and the summary of the discussion:
- OnePlus 7 (but the development is not in a good position; I read a few threads there. Also the 7T is on the way so buying a new one would not be a better idea I think)
- OnePlus 6T (if you want to stay on stock rom because oxygen os is good. - suggested by selvarajrajkanna. I found a few pre-owned 6Ts and also my friend has one, that's why I suggested it)
- Pixel 3A (have better camera and if camera is the only priority - suggested by selvarajrajkanna and mcalistri)
- Redmi K20 Pro (suggested by GopalKaul and selvarajrajkanna because it has latest chipset, 3.5mm jack, bigger battery, etc.)
- Nokia 7.2 (suggested by mcalistri)
- Poco F1 (if on a tight budget - suggested by GopalKaul)
Also please tell if you have any other good options or suggestions in this list. I'll update this post if anything relevant is posted. Our Z2 Plus started with 6.0 and went through 7.0, 8.0 and 9.0 without any serious performance issues. So I think Android Q will also work flawlessly. But if any Z2 Plus owner who like to replace it with another one and also expect a legend like Z2 this post may/should help. Thanks for taking the time to read this long post. ?
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If you want to try a new phone after the Zuk Z2, try buying either Pixel 3, or even 7 is a very good option[seeing the development of other one plus phones, 7's development should soon emerge]

akshay pro said:
If you want to try a new phone after the Zuk Z2, try buying either Pixel 3, or even 7 is a very good option[seeing the development of other one plus phones, 7's development should soon emerge]
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IMHO we should consider first the device as it we find it from the factory, with its default software and O.S., I mean we should consider if it can or can't be ROM customized as second requirement.
For example, for my personal user case, I purchased my ZukZ2 with Chinese ROM, than the decision to flash a custom ROM on it has been almost mandatory.

akshay pro said:
If you want to try a new phone after the Zuk Z2, try buying either Pixel 3, or even 7 is a very good option[seeing the development of other one plus phones, 7's development should soon emerge]
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Thanks. I can get a OnePlus 6T phone (pre-owned, 6-128, still in warranty) for about 75% of that of a new OnePlus 7's price. So, which one would be better? OnePlus 6T or 7? Or any other?

mcalistri said:
IMHO we should consider first the device as it we find it from the factory, with its default software and O.S., I mean we should consider if it can or can't be ROM customized as second requirement.
For example, for my personal user case, I purchased my ZukZ2 with Chinese ROM, than the decision to flash a custom ROM on it has been almost mandatory.
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Thanks. My thought is just opposite. I like almost-stock-ROMs with additional features and the factory OSs never attracted me except for some of their features or something. I flashed the custom ROM the day I got Z2. Before buying it I searched about many devices in XDA which had better custom ROM development support. Also Z2 was a device with almost high-end spec then and I got a huge discount then. That's why I'm looking for a device identical to Z2 of that time.

I would defenately go to k20 pro

niyonsv said:
Thanks. My thought is just opposite. I like almost-stock-ROMs with additional features and the factory OSs never attracted me except for some of their features or something. I flashed the custom ROM the day I got Z2. Before buying it I searched about many devices in XDA which had better custom ROM development support. Also Z2 was a device with almost high-end spec then and I got a huge discount then. That's why I'm looking for a device identical to Z2 of that time.
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Stock OS as the pure Android running on a Google Pixel phone, from what I've heard have everything we need to forget about custom ROM.
Our device, thanks to its hardware is still pretty good to offer brilliant service for years to come.
The maior lacks, I IMHO can resume for Z2 are:
1 - A not superlative camera, beside its hw specs which are not the top of the market, probably has not been achieved the very best in terms of firmware and software to manage it at a better level.
2 - A not superlative sound in terms of loudness
Regards,

I don't see any reason to change the device.
Charge the ROM, chahe the screen guard and change the cover or add a skin.
That's the new device for you.

manishgkasera said:
I don't see any reason to change the device.
Charge the ROM, chahe the screen guard and change the cover or add a skin.
That's the new device for you.
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:laugh:

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manishgkasera said:
I don't see any reason to change the device.
Charge the ROM, chahe the screen guard and change the cover or add a skin.
That's the new device for you.
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That's how I used my Z2 bro. It has a unique design (all phones where curved then) and it always stayed different from others. But there's one thing that I changed thrice and it was a bit more costly - battery. Also my phone is becoming slow and slow each day. Tried different ROMs, reduced number of apps. The phone is not performing well too. It is taking ages to click a photo. Also the earpiece speaker now started distorting, I've to use headset always for talking. There are other reasons here and there, so I think it is better to change my phone. That's why I asked for suggestion.

I'm also looking for an upgrade to this phone. I bought the ZUK about 3 years ago with the intention of only keeping it for under 12 months. But I ended up sticking with it since I couldn't find a suitable upgrade at the time. After a lot of use it seems the ZUK is starting to show signs of slowing down. It's taking time to open apps and the storage is incredibly slow as prooven by benchmark testing.
Unfortunately my choice for a replacement is limited because I get eyestrain and headaches when looking at AMOLED screens with PWM flickering. The Asus Zenfone 6 looks perfect with an IPS panel, but it is too expensive at £450 here in the UK. The upcoming Realme 5 Pro seems good with SD712, 6GB RAM and 128GB UFS 2.1 storage for a much more reasonable £190. But I worry about whether this phone will recieve good custom ROM support. There's also the Redmi Note 7 Pro with SD675 but it has a horrible ugly U-shaped notch. Maybe the upcoming Redmi Note 8 will also be decent.

I'm a bit surprised about hear some buddies have the need to replace the battery in their ZukZ2.
My battery, after years of usage looks like brand new, it doesn't presents any sign of longevity.
Furthermore I can't understand how the device appears running slower! We have not any mechanical disk inside it, neither a Windows XP is running here! If your device is slow then try to clean flash after performing a factory reset.
Sirs, are you violenting yours smartphones? Are you using it extensively with gaming and repetitive charging during usage?
May be you should have been more respectful and conservative using the phone now you have to pay the bill!

P650SE said:
I'm also looking for an upgrade to this phone. I bought the ZUK about 3 years ago with the intention of only keeping it for under 12 months. But I ended up sticking with it since I couldn't find a suitable upgrade at the time. After a lot of use it seems the ZUK is starting to show signs of slowing down. It's taking time to open apps and the storage is incredibly slow as prooven by benchmark testing.
Unfortunately my choice for a replacement is limited because I get eyestrain and headaches when looking at AMOLED screens with PWM flickering. The Asus Zenfone 6 looks perfect with an IPS panel, but it is too expensive at £450 here in the UK. The upcoming Realme 5 Pro seems good with SD712, 6GB RAM and 128GB UFS 2.1 storage for a much more reasonable £190. But I worry about whether this phone will recieve good custom ROM support. There's also the Redmi Note 7 Pro with SD675 but it has a horrible ugly U-shaped notch. Maybe the upcoming Redmi Note 8 will also be decent.
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I haven't heard of this AMOLED flickering issue till now. Is it a serious issue to consider?

mcalistri said:
I'm a bit surprised about hear some buddies have the need to replace the battery in their ZukZ2.
My battery, after years of usage looks like brand new, it doesn't presents any sign of longevity.
Furthermore I can't understand how the device appears running slower! We have not any mechanical disk inside it, neither a Windows XP is running here! If your device is slow then try to clean flash after performing a factory reset.
Sirs, are you violenting yours smartphones? Are you using it extensively with gaming and repetitive charging during usage?
May be you should have been more respectful and conservative using the phone now you have to pay the bill!
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But I changed the batteries thrice, all from Lenovo official service center. I always go to stock ROM between each ROM changes, and clean flash between each updates. It's a bit time consuming sometimes but I know its better. Only a very few times I dirty flashed.
I used it for gaming only in the first year of purchase, now I'm not interest in that, that's why. Also I was always respectful to my phone, since it is the only device I have.
The phone is speedier with old stock ROMs and nougat ROMs, but not that speedier than then. So if I need to use newer version of ROMs and apps I should switch to a newer phone rather forcing Z2 to do all new stuffs.
I remember only a few phone models were capable of taking photos with GCams and Z2 was there in the list right after getting camera2API. Also it took and processed photos very fast. But now it is taking a lot of time even to click a photo.

niyonsv said:
I haven't heard of this AMOLED flickering issue till now. Is it a serious issue to consider?
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Well it only affects a small minority of people, I heard about 10% of users can experience these symptoms with AMOLED panels. It just means you are more sensitive to the flickering than other people. Sadly, the only way to find out is to purchase an AMOLED phone and try it for yourself. That's what happened with me.
mcalistri said:
I'm a bit surprised about hear some buddies have the need to replace the battery in their ZukZ2.
My battery, after years of usage looks like brand new, it doesn't presents any sign of longevity.
Furthermore I can't understand how the device appears running slower! We have not any mechanical disk inside it, neither a Windows XP is running here! If your device is slow then try to clean flash after performing a factory reset.
Sirs, are you violenting yours smartphones? Are you using it extensively with gaming and repetitive charging during usage?
May be you should have been more respectful and conservative using the phone now you have to pay the bill!
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I was of the understanding that flash storage can degrade over time in smartphones. I probably didn't do mine any favours by constantly flashing ROMs and copying files to it over the course of 3 years. I did some storage benchmarks and I'm only getting 33MB/s sequential write speeds. Random write 4K is even worse at 1.3MB/s average. Surely that's not normal.
https://files.catbox.moe/e1wu3r.png
Can anyone compare against my scores? The app is called CPDT Benchmark in the Play Store.
In regards to battery performance, mine still gives about 4 hours of SOT but that is disappointing when it used to last for 7 hours and 30 minutes. I always allow my phone to run completely out of battery which I heard isn't good for for in the long-term. So perhaps bad charging habits have caused more degradation.

niyonsv said:
But I changed the batteries thrice, all from Lenovo official service center. I always go to stock ROM between each ROM changes, and clean flash between each updates. It's a bit time consuming sometimes but I know its better. Only a very few times I dirty flashed.
I used it for gaming only in the first year of purchase, now I'm not interest in that, that's why. Also I was always respectful to my phone, since it is the only device I have.
The phone is speedier with old stock ROMs and nougat ROMs, but not that speedier than then. So if I need to use newer version of ROMs and apps I should switch to a newer phone rather forcing Z2 to do all new stuffs.
I remember only a few phone models were capable of taking photos with GCams and Z2 was there in the list right after getting camera2API. Also it took and processed photos very fast. But now it is taking a lot of time even to click a photo.
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I really don't know why you had to replace your battery trice, I think it is a very seldom occurrence, nor I can say it happened due your usage, most likely it could be due you purchased a defective device.
About slowing down after time, I agree about the SSD consideration made by our buddy participating to this discussion because I recently red something about SSD since I'm going to replace my laptop HDD but also this kind of issue I believe it's happening seldom in smartphones.
I won't to cause frustrations writing that I've not noticed any slowness on my Zuk Z2 so far, just a little bit when I flashed Nameless kernel which was an EAS kernel.
Now on AEX 6.7 I'm using the default kernel which is giving to the Z2 an extremely fast responsiveness and smooth usability too.
I think I will try to run the SSD performance test suggested by our buddy (sorry I didn't wrote your name to mention it but you sent interesting comments indeed).
I'm sure that there are not many users affected by problems you are facing about slowness and battery, or better, it would be interesting to make a survey here on XDA to know how many people have such problems on their ZukZ2.
Best regards,
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P650SE said:
Well it only affects a small minority of people, I heard about 10% of users can experience these symptoms with AMOLED panels. It just means you are more sensitive to the flickering than other people. Sadly, the only way to find out is to purchase an AMOLED phone and try it for yourself. That's what happened with me.
I was of the understanding that flash storage can degrade over time in smartphones. I probably didn't do mine any favours by constantly flashing ROMs and copying files to it over the course of 3 years. I did some storage benchmarks and I'm only getting 33MB/s sequential write speeds. Random write 4K is even worse at 1.3MB/s average. Surely that's not normal.
https://files.catbox.moe/e1wu3r.png
Can anyone compare against my scores? The app is called CPDT Benchmark in the Play Store.
In regards to battery performance, mine still gives about 4 hours of SOT but that is disappointing when it used to last for 7 hours and 30 minutes. I always allow my phone to run completely out of battery which I heard isn't good for for in the long-term. So perhaps bad charging habits have caused more degradation.
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Very much interesting comments!
I think I will try to run the SSD benchmark but before I would like to ask you why you say that your results are bad?
Did you compared with another ZukZ2 user running similar environment?
About the battery we also have to take in account the adjustment we could have done to applications (running in background or not) the screen stby after X seconds, the charger we use, in fact there are plenty of chargers around that are not good for our battery but that are being used normally.
In any case your SOT looks very normal to me.
Regards,

P650SE said:
I was of the understanding that flash storage can degrade over time in smartphones. I probably didn't do mine any favours by constantly flashing ROMs and copying files to it over the course of 3 years. I did some storage benchmarks and I'm only getting 33MB/s sequential write speeds. Random write 4K is even worse at 1.3MB/s average. Surely that's not normal.
https://files.catbox.moe/e1wu3r.png
Can anyone compare against my scores? The app is called CPDT Benchmark in the Play Store.
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Here is my CPDT benchmark result which looks quite aligned with your, so I think that SSD performance has nothing to do with the slowness of the responsiveness of your Zuk Z2.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.Saplin.CPDT
Regards,

mcalistri said:
Here is my CPDT benchmark result which looks quite aligned with your, so I think that SSD performance has nothing to do with the slowness of the responsiveness of your Zuk Z2.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.Saplin.CPDT
Regards,
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Sorry, the result of my benchmark is not visible externally so I'm attaching the screenshot here.
Regards,

Looking to buy the A3 in 2021. Thoughts?

Hey there
A bit late to the party here. I am looking to get a A3 to replace my current phone. I have a POCO M2 PRO as my current phone, however i am VERY dissatisfied with it. Look into the A3 cuz its the only small phone i was able to find. Lemma know if this is a good idea. Oh and if you know about any small/compact/comfortable phone that doesn't break the bank, let me know in the comments.
peace✌

If you are going to flash a rom on it right away then go ahead, using this phone stock is like alpha testing.

Berserker_boi said:
Hey there
A bit late to the party here. I am looking to get a A3 to replace my current phone. I have a POCO M2 PRO as my current phone, however i am VERY dissatisfied with it. Look into the A3 cuz its the only small phone i was able to find. Lemma know if this is a good idea. Oh and if you know about any small/compact/comfortable phone that doesn't break the bank, let me know in the comments.
peace✌
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I also bought this phone in 2021 based on the very same reasons as yours. This is the only phone I could find with decent dev support (easy to unlock, root, custom roms to choose etc.), size (I was using an Xperia X Compact, so size is still an issue for me but there wasn't any smaller with comparable features.) and specs. I unlocked and flashed los with microg even before putting my sim card. (And the sad story is this is the second one I bought bucause I lost the first one second day )

Using stock since fall 2019, works great until today, would buy again.

Go with another one.

In my experience, a11 stock is very good. 2 days without full charge and 8-9 hours of SOT. Smooth and fast. The secret is optmize the app configuration. Remove useless app. But first... Don't use official Facebook app. Obviously it's my opinion and my experience. But i'm quite sure that the user with bad experience. Are user with bad use of your device. And my phone stats can confirm what i say

Berserker_boi said:
Hey there
A bit late to the party here. I am looking to get a A3 to replace my current phone. I have a POCO M2 PRO as my current phone, however i am VERY dissatisfied with it. Look into the A3 cuz its the only small phone i was able to find. Lemma know if this is a good idea. Oh and if you know about any small/compact/comfortable phone that doesn't break the bank, let me know in the comments.
peace✌
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In my opinion, if I had to change my Mi A3 now, I'd go with a Motorola Moto G 5G Plus, which has more or less the same A3 stuff, with a better display, 5g, better battery but it's also slightly bigger and heavier.
The only thing I don't know is about the software, on the xda page there are very few threads and nobody's talking about major problems with software, I might give it a try if I get sick with Xiaomeme software updates

Phil_gloves said:
In my opinion, if I had to change my Mi A3 now, I'd go with a Motorola Moto G 5G Plus, which has more or less the same A3 stuff, with a better display, 5g, better battery but it's also slightly bigger and heavier.
The only thing I don't know is about the software, on the xda page there are very few threads and nobody's talking about major problems with software, I might give it a try if I get sick with Xiaomeme software updates
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That motorola has an IPS screen with SD765, so not really comparable
But I think this 720p AMOLED screen is crappy (EVEN if it makes this phone faster), but you cannot find a decent 1080p at the smallish 70-72mm width that's not costing an arm and a leg (Sony Xperia 5).
Wait 7 days for the new Poco.

I think that mi a3 is one of the best mid range phone... So i will change it... Only for an high range phone... Probably a pixel... Or a top xiaomi... Also oppo seems very good phones...

wetito said:
In my experience, a11 stock is very good. 2 days without full charge and 8-9 hours of SOT. Smooth and fast. The secret is optmize the app configuration. Remove useless app. But first... Don't use official Facebook app. Obviously it's my opinion and my experience. But i'm quite sure that the user with bad experience. Are user with bad use of your device. And my phone stats can confirm what i say
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How were you able to get good battery life on stock Android 11? Please help me. The battery life sucks on Android 11 on this phone.

Sometimes the ota updates are not successful. So an hard reset can solve much problems. I don't use fingerprint and always on display because drain a lot of battery... I have disabled much of Google apps that are not indispensable for my use... I have limited the background use for some apps... With this optimization i'm very satisfied. But are specific s for my use (social+music streaming... And sometimes YouTube vanced). I hope my post can help you (i'm italian so my English is not perfect)

Best buy of the week! I'm seriusly considering to sell my mia3 at this prince to buy it! Is's an old model... But not the hardware