I just sat my watch on a QI charger I had for my G2 and it worked....FYI
Very cool, so do you think any QI charger would work? I am thinking of getting one on amazon in the future to use as a travel charger.
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Very cool, so do you think any QI charger would work? I am thinking of getting one on amazon in the future to use as a travel charger.
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I can't imagine why not. Id get one that lays flat. Mine is like a cradle, so I have have to rig it now i know it works. I went from one charger to three just like that.
Second confirmation from a tech blog source:
http://www.androidcentral.com/moto-360-and-qi-charging-match-made-nerd-heaven
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I just sat my watch on a QI charger I had for my G2 and it worked....FYI
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Tried to go the other way and see if I could get the 360 charger to charge the G2. I couldn't find a good way to get it on there, doesn't seem like it will work without some creativity.
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Tried to go the other way and see if I could get the 360 charger to charge the G2. I couldn't find a good way to get it on there, doesn't seem like it will work without some creativity.
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Little 360 base probably doesn't allow you to get the phone in the right spot to get contact.
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Little 360 base probably doesn't allow you to get the phone in the right spot to get contact.
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Yeah the indention is specific to the 360. So how are you liking the phone so far? Android Wear in general is the only thing that bothers me as I figure out how to use it.
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Yeah the indention is specific to the 360. So how are you liking the phone so far? Android Wear in general is the only thing that bothers me as I figure out how to use it.
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I take it you mean the watch. I like it. I wish it had a better battery. I like AW better than Tizen. So much more development. I wish I could make or answer calls from it like my Gear 2.
What someone needs to do is having something like the Power Pack Micro or any small power pack and have a Qi charger on one side. That would have been killer. Then you could have looped the watch around it to charge on the go.
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I can't imagine why not. Id get one that lays flat. Mine is like a cradle, so I have have to rig it now i know it works. I went from one charger to three just like that.
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Looking at getting this one soon then..
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00F6SQ1D6/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ADMFJEYBD7NHZ
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I just sat my watch on a QI charger I had for my G2 and it worked....FYI
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Awesome. I'm even less concerned about the (rumored) poor battery life. I have Qi chargers at work, at home and will have the dock as well.
EVOme said:
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Could you say how long it takes to charge? does it charge as fast on the generic charger?
Confirmed. Awesome!
menendez1293 said:
Looking at getting this one soon then..
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00F6SQ1D6/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ADMFJEYBD7NHZ
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I have this charger for my g3 and it works well... I will test it with my 360 when i get it.
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Anyone bought onw of these? Any opinions?
http://cgi.ebay.com/OEM-HDMI-Dock-C...843093?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item483e7a3a95
Unless it's complete trash it's hard to beat the price.
It's a re-certified "official" dock (the one you could buy as a Sprint accessory). I bought two of them a while back. One works great, the data wires on the USB plug for the other one has just recently started to flake out. That's fine for me, it still charges and I only need data on the one connected to my PC - the other one sits on my nightstand for charging duties.
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It's a re-certified "official" dock (the one you could buy as a Sprint accessory). I bought two of them a while back. One works great, the data wires on the USB plug for the other one has just recently started to flake out. That's fine for me, it still charges and I only need data on the one connected to my PC - the other one sits on my nightstand for charging duties.
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Wow, thanks. Guess I'll get one.
Any idea if it would work with an extended battery door? I would like to get a couple for work and home but I use an extended battery and it doesn't say if it will work or not. Any ideas?
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Any idea if it would work with an extended battery door? I would like to get a couple for work and home but I use an extended battery and it doesn't say if it will work or not. Any ideas?
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It says on the ebay ad that it wont work wore with extended batteries.
"Please note: This docking station has been designed for use with a standard battery and will not work with an extended battery. Cell phone Not included."
OP, good find. Might have to snag one of these up.
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It says on the ebay ad that it wont work wore with extended batteries.
"Please note: This docking station has been designed for use with a standard battery and will not work with an extended battery. Cell phone Not included."
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Wow...totally missed that one...thanks for the info.
Will it work with a case on the phone?
Nice find! I've always had good luck with refurbished stuff, so I'll try one. Can't beat it for $10, even if it craps out.
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lewi3069 said:
Will it work with a case on the phone?
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Im wondering the samething???
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Im wondering the samething???
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I had heard it doesn't, but maybe you wouldn't be afraid to take a dremel to it for only $10?
just got one of these for 7.99, same thing I think. Charging seems very slow, any idea whats up?
The one I looked at was just the dock and no cables. Do I need the dock for HDMI or can I just plug in the cable to it and then to my TV?
On Samsungs unveiling of the SG3 they mentioned wireless charging. I cant find any information on this?
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On Samsungs unveiling of the SG3 they mentioned wireless charging. I cant find any information on this?
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yesh the wireless charging is like the palm pre you have to put on a replacement battery door BUT im going to buy this charging kit anyways cos the battery door is said to feel more premium coated in a rubber the induction coil is in the door.
the charging is like the palm pre you just put the device on a flat peice of plastic vola its charging
Is there any sample pic of it?
http://www.youmobile.org/blogs/entr...-S-III-Accessories-with-Wireless-Charging-Kit
any ideas on the price?
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any ideas on the price?
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no but im guessing around £20-£30
That doesn't seem too bad then. I will probably just get it anyway lol
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no but im guessing around £20-£30
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£50 is more likely!
winwiz said:
£50 is more likely!
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who know but the palm pre one is £29
It's like a powermat basically.
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It's like a powermat basically.
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yeah but no neeed for a case
Included or not?
I heard that it could be included in a package for some countries, any news about?
how does the charging speed compare to using the wall charger tho
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how does the charging speed compare to using the wall charger tho
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That's the million dollar question!! I guess we could ask some palm owners on their experiences
It'd be awesome to have. Until your cat knocks it off in the middle of night. Plus it's easier to plug it in then set it on something when I pass out
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any ideas on the price?
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I'd heard that the stand was around £35. For a moment I thought Clove had got one, but that turns out to be the normal desk stand (I think, see http://www.clove.co.uk/accessories/samsung/samsung-galaxy-s3/cables-chargers)
Like the idea of the wireless charger because I've seen how easy it is, based on the three HP Touchpad's we've got in the house.
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That's the million dollar question!! I guess we could ask some palm owners on their experiences
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The Touchpad folks in the house haven't noticed any difference in charge time (apart from the initial one) between wired and wireless charging.
That said, the difference in the initial charge was quite long, (one TP was wired charged, the other two wirelessly), in the order of an hour if memory serves me. And if the Samsung charger is anything like the HP TP one then you don't have to be too precise with your device positioning.
Just wish that the Samsung S3's charger also allowed a headphone out - kind of like the old (?) Apple iPhone/iPod dock (the one with the remote). It'd be nice to give that Wolfson DAC a spin by using S3 as an iPod replacement.
The important questions are, is it compatible with my current PowerMat that I own. Also, I have read about PowerMat's new NFC charge card that should be out sometime this year. You swap out the NFC card with their NFC+Charge card and there is no need to switch phone backs.
September? WTH!
http://www.theverge.com/2012/5/9/3009404/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-wireless-charge-kit-september
Yes what is the hold up?
What I've heard is that basically it was a last minute addition and was never going to be ready on time - it wasn't delayed, it was always expected to come this late after launch. Might get the LG Optimus LTE2 instead, as that also comes with wireless charging apparently.
I'm not as handy as some in the forums...but I can glue things together. Any phone stands out there that would work nicely with the n5 charger and the nexus?
I've a case on so I can't rely on the chargers magnets unfortunately, so I need proper stand
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I'm not 100% sure what you're asking here, but get one of these and call it a day.
http://www.tylt.com/vu/
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I'm not 100% sure what you're asking here, but get one of these and call it a day.
http://www.tylt.com/vu/
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I'm assuming he wants to make his own type of DIY stand.
Do you have the Tylt? I'm interested in it.
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I'm assuming he wants to make his own type of DIY stand.
Do you have the Tylt? I'm interested in it.
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Yep, it's sitting right next to me. Wonderful charger. I use it for my N7 and my N5.
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Yep, it's sitting right next to me. Wonderful charger. I use it for my N7 and my N5.
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Very pricey, I want it. I'll have to see catch it at a deal.
The Tylt definitely is a looker, but I can't justify spending that much on a charger.
I just want something around $15 - $25 that outputs higher than 1A... I want to at least attempt to come close to the max Qi for the Nexus 5.
The cheap $15 one I have right now is 1A max output (so less of course) and I'd say it charges a little over half as fast as the stock charger.
I don't want to spend higher than that for essentially a glorified usb cable.
Missed out on the tylt deal (also already have the nexus) so I couldnt get one. So trying the diy route
Yeah I'm with you guys, they definitely charge a premium for it. I missed out on the sale too but bought it anyway and I'm glad I did. It's really one of the most convenient accessories if not THE most convenient accessory I've ever bought for a phone/tablet and it's that convenience you pay for. I wish it was cheaper, but still think it's worth the asking price.
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Yeah I'm with you guys, they definitely charge a premium for it. I missed out on the sale too but bought it anyway and I'm glad I did. It's really one of the most convenient accessories if not THE most convenient accessory I've ever bought for a phone/tablet and it's that convenience you pay for. I wish it was cheaper, but still think it's worth the asking price.
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I read a post on here a few minutes ago about staying away from wireless chargers because they damage the battery. How true is this?
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I read a post on here a few minutes ago about staying away from wireless chargers because they damage the battery. How true is this?
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Don't really see how, and I have no issues with either of my devices. I would think if wireless chargers damaged the battery, then phone manufacturers wouldn't add that feature. Do you mind linking that post?
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Don't really see how, and I have no issues with either of my devices. I would think if wireless chargers damaged the battery, then phone manufacturers wouldn't add that feature. Do you mind linking that post?
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Thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2583508
Article that was posted by a user: http://gizmodo.com/how-to-take-care-of-your-smartphone-battery-the-right-w-513217256
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Thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2583508
Article that was posted by a user: http://gizmodo.com/how-to-take-care-of-your-smartphone-battery-the-right-w-513217256
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Ahhh the heat thing. Yeah, that *can* degrade the performance of a battery over an extended period of time, but I don't see that being a major concern. Your phone gets warmer during gaming sessions or just browsing the web than it does when on a wireless charger so the argument can be made that it's worse for the battery to actually use the phone than to charge it wirelessly. That said, at least in my experience, my TYLT charger doesn't make my N5 or N7 warm at all. And my N5 is on it all the time. Bottom line- use your phone the way you want to, you're going to be upgrading long before your battery dies anyway.
Slightly OT, but does it matter if you plug in your Qi charger into a USB 2.0 port on a computer, or do you need to use a USB 3.0?
I know that the mAh of USB 2.0 is something like only 500mAh, but I believe it still supplies the same 5V as USB 3.0 would. Would a Qi charger go by the 5V input, or would is use the 500mAh max draw rendering the charge time absolutely horrendous?
I don't really know how it works too well. I have my Qi charger plugged into a USB port on my power bar for my night stand. But I'd like to have 2 more, 1 for my desk (hooked to my desktop computer) and another for my notebook.
I want a wireless charger for my phone because I'm always picking it up and putting it back down on my desk. I'm kinda sick of plugging and unplugging it, so a wireless charger would be nice. Thing is, I don't want one that's going to beep at me every time I pick it up or put it down and it's hard to tell from Amazon reviews if a particular charger does this or not.
Any suggestions?
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I want a wireless charger for my phone because I'm always picking it up and putting it back down on my desk. I'm kinda sick of plugging and unplugging it, so a wireless charger would be nice. Thing is, I don't want one that's going to beep at me every time I pick it up or put it down and it's hard to tell from Amazon reviews if a particular charger does this or not.
Any suggestions?
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The Air Dock on the Indiegogo site seems good. I've just bought two, one to use on the desk and other for the car. Shipping though in May so i'll have to wait.
Caelrie said:
I want a wireless charger for my phone because I'm always picking it up and putting it back down on my desk. I'm kinda sick of plugging and unplugging it, so a wireless charger would be nice. Thing is, I don't want one that's going to beep at me every time I pick it up or put it down and it's hard to tell from Amazon reviews if a particular charger does this or not.
Any suggestions?
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The Nokia DT-900 works a treat with the N5, even with my Diztronic TPU case. Only thing is, since 4.4.2 (I think) the phone automatically makes a beep when you begin charging it. Only way to disable this is through an Xposed module, which you can find here: http://repo.xposed.info/module/com.eldarerathis.xposedmodule.wirelesschargingxposed
It's a nice little app that lets you customise how the screen behaves when you begin/finish charging, and whether you want a sound played or not.
Hope that helps.
This one BEEPS. (I like it for the CAR)
http://www.amazon.com/Inductive-Com...F8&qid=1390489159&sr=1-13&keywords=qi+charger
This one DONT. (But very and annoying bright LED)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Qi-Wireless...S_Cell_Phone_PDA_Chargers&hash=item3f2c7ba1f6
The verizon LG pad works, but does have a beep. I cut the speaker out on that one. It's a great charging pad other than the modding I had to do lol.
The Tylt Vu, orb, and Nexus wireless charger all do not beep, however,the phone does chime if your phone is below 95% in battery level. Just a FYI.
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This one BEEPS. (I like it for the CAR)
http://www.amazon.com/Inductive-Com...F8&qid=1390489159&sr=1-13&keywords=qi+charger
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Easy to pop the piezo speaker
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Easy to pop the piezo speaker
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http://imgur.com/0pQdiKD
"In the Circle is the beeper. just open the little box and throw the little metal-plate away, which is loose inside. "
NobodyNexus5 gave me this hint
Nokia DT-900, Currently on sale for $24.50 from AT&T. Great quality wireless charger, just place the phone and it begins charging. No beep from the charger itself. Plays well with our N5s; no overheating issues etc.
Once you go wireless you never go back!
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Caelrie said:
I want a wireless charger for my phone because I'm always picking it up and putting it back down on my desk. I'm kinda sick of plugging and unplugging it, so a wireless charger would be nice. Thing is, I don't want one that's going to beep at me every time I pick it up or put it down and it's hard to tell from Amazon reviews if a particular charger does this or not.
Any suggestions?
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Pretty much any Qi charger except the ones shaped like a "Hockey Puck" won't beep. Those are the only ones I've seen so far that have a speaker built in to the charger pad.
The phone will also make a connection sound as well. Unless you have your phone on silent.
Just look for a Qi charger that has a 1A (1000mA) Output and you're good to go. The lower the mA output, the slower it will charge.
Caelrie said:
I want a wireless charger for my phone because I'm always picking it up and putting it back down on my desk. I'm kinda sick of plugging and unplugging it, so a wireless charger would be nice. Thing is, I don't want one that's going to beep at me every time I pick it up or put it down and it's hard to tell from Amazon reviews if a particular charger does this or not.
Any suggestions?
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This:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00E9MUNWU/
Works well, no beep, led to let you know if properly placed
Thanks for the suggestions, all!
I ended up picking this one since I noticed it went on sale: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00F3ARMUI/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Thanks for the suggestions, all!
I ended up picking this one since I noticed it went on sale: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00F3ARMUI/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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:laugh::laugh: I like the giant NO SOUND pic they include in the photos!!
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:laugh::laugh: I like the giant NO SOUND pic they include in the photos!!
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LOL yah that cracked me up too.
Caelrie said:
I want a wireless charger for my phone because I'm always picking it up and putting it back down on my desk. I'm kinda sick of plugging and unplugging it, so a wireless charger would be nice. Thing is, I don't want one that's going to beep at me every time I pick it up or put it down and it's hard to tell from Amazon reviews if a particular charger does this or not.
Any suggestions?
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Simple.
1. Go to playstore.
2. Buy Nexus wireless charger
3. Profit.
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JD2589 said:
Nokia DT-900, Currently on sale for $24.50 from AT&T. Great quality wireless charger, just place the phone and it begins charging. No beep from the charger itself. Plays well with our N5s; no overheating issues etc.
Once you go wireless you never go back!
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I can vouch for this. No beep whatsoever. Only a very white light when charging.
http://www.amazon.com/Qi-infinity-Portable-compatible-including-receivers/dp/B00K8HG8YW
So far I am able to get about 8-10 hours of use off my Moto 360 with these settings: (brightness 4 and ambient screen on). I just purchased one of these to help with the battery of the watch. I will be able to charge the watch if I need to when I am out. It will also work to charge my phone so that should come in handy.
Someone should make a super small qi charger for all the qi enabled watches coming out. Maybe 750 MaH or something to give it a full recharge and then have a little extra.
Kinda like Motorola's little key chain thing, but qi
I dig the magnetic Qi charger idea for the iWatch... Why don't more companies play with magnets? It should be magnetic too. I would buy it.
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http://www.amazon.com/Qi-infinity-Portable-compatible-including-receivers/dp/B00K8HG8YW
So far I am able to get about 8-10 hours of use off my Moto 360 with these settings: (brightness 4 and ambient screen on). I just purchased one of these to help with the battery of the watch. I will be able to charge the watch if I need to when I am out. It will also work to charge my phone so that should come in handy.
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May be better with this one. $5 cheaper and almost 2x the mAh (7000mAh)
(I was just looking for something like this, but I have a Nokia DT-900 at my desk at work, so its not really needed right now)
http://amzn.com/B00HFTLXPK
I have this one.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00J409JCM/
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I have this one.
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does it work well?
does it cut off when full charge?
Will it fry the moto?
Don't know about the last one yet, but it is Qi certified, so it should be OK. It is in my travel bag, so I won't use it on the Moto until I go out of town this weekend. It works well on my N5 though.
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Don't know about the last one yet, but it is Qi certified, so it should be OK. It is in my travel bag, so I won't use it on the Moto until I go out of town this weekend. It works well on my N5 though.
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I mean, it is used to charge devices with much much larger batteries ...... Are we safe?
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They need to somehow build the batteries into a band that can somehow discharge via the the charging coil in the watch....
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They need to somehow build the batteries into a band that can somehow discharge via the the charging coil in the watch.... Which in turn would recharge the watch...
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claudioita said:
I mean, it is used to charge devices with much much larger batteries ...... Are we safe?
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The answer is governed by Ohm's Law
Current draw is regulated by the device not the power source. Ohm's law states that the current through a conductor between two points is directly proportional to the potential difference across the two points.
If you think about mains electricity, you can plug in a high current device like a kettle or heater to the same socket you plug in a low current device such as a phone PSU.
HTH.
I'd love to find a qi-enabled battery pack like this that has embedded magnets, so I can just stick my Nexus 5 to it, and put it in my pocket. True charging on the go. As it is, I either have to deal with a cable that I'm afraid I'm going to bend/break while I'm moving around, or use rubber bands or something to keep the my phone attached to the charger. Anyone find one?
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I'd love to find a qi-enabled battery pack like this that has embedded magnets, so I can just stick my Nexus 5 to it, and put it in my pocket. True charging on the go. As it is, I either have to deal with a cable that I'm afraid I'm going to bend/break while I'm moving around, or use rubber bands or something to keep the my phone attached to the charger. Anyone find one?
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No, but I can use the watchband on my moto 360 to keep it on my charge battery Doesn't help for your N5, but since this is the Moto 360 thread ~
daijizai said:
I dig the magnetic Qi charger idea for the iWatch... Why don't more companies play with magnets? It should be magnetic too. I would buy it.
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It's not Qi.
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May be better with this one. $5 cheaper and almost 2x the mAh (7000mAh)
(I was just looking for something like this, but I have a Nokia DT-900 at my desk at work, so its not really needed right now)
http://amzn.com/B00HFTLXPK
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This one is well worth the price!
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ya that would be sweet
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They need to somehow build the batteries into a band that can somehow discharge via the the charging coil in the watch.... Which in turn would recharge the watch...
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May be better with this one. $5 cheaper and almost 2x the mAh (7000mAh)
(I was just looking for something like this, but I have a Nokia DT-900 at my desk at work, so its not really needed right now)
http://amzn.com/B00HFTLXPK
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Yup I picked up this one and have it on my living room couch. Works great.Will probably pick up another one for my office. Now if I can just figure out something that will work well in my car...
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May be better with this one. $5 cheaper and almost 2x the mAh (7000mAh)
(I was just looking for something like this, but I have a Nokia DT-900 at my desk at work, so its not really needed right now)
http://amzn.com/B00HFTLXPK
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This is interesting, will order one, thanks for the tip!
Any QI charge pad supports multiple devices charging at the same time?
Would like to use it for my Nexus 5 and Moto 360.
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Any QI charge pad supports multiple devices charging at the same time?
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Read about the Energizer-Dual-Inductive-Charger or search for more yourself.
lineager said:
Any QI charge pad supports multiple devices charging at the same time?
Would like to use it for my Nexus 5 and Moto 360.
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The Qi 1.2 standard should be out about years end. It will support multiple devices simultaneously and can charge at a distance of about 2 inches. Backwards compatible will charge at a distance of about 30mm ish but still multiple devices.