[Q] Phone randomly reeboots, stuck on splash screen - T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4

Hey guys,
I recently updated to Kitkat (by mistake) through odin and ever since then my phone would randomly freeze, reboots, and stay on the splash-screen. When it does, it gets really warm around the Sim card area. I'm running stock, no root, and have looked everywhere for a solution, but haven't found anything similar to my predicament. I've factory-reset,and noticed that it also freezes when I try to go into recovery. Weirdly, If I turn on my phone, and connect it to the charger, it'll boot like normal, just to randomly freeze and reset some other time Any help? I already triggered my knox flag, so at this point I am just looking for anything to give me a stable phone once again

_meep_ said:
Hey guys,
I recently updated to Kitkat (by mistake) through odin and ever since then my phone would randomly freeze, reboots, and stay on the splash-screen. When it does, it gets really warm around the Sim card area. I'm running stock, no root, and have looked everywhere for a solution, but haven't found anything similar to my predicament. I've factory-reset,and noticed that it also freezes when I try to go into recovery. Weirdly, If I turn on my phone, and connect it to the charger, it'll boot like normal, just to randomly freeze and reset some other time Any help? I already triggered my knox flag, so at this point I am just looking for anything to give me a stable phone once again
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Because your KNOX flag is already tripped, I'd say go ahead and flash a custom recovery and an AOSP ROM. Doesn't matter which one, just something that isn't TouchWiz. Once you've flashed AOSP, revert back to stock 4.4.2 firmware through Odin. I say to do that because I've noticed that if I Odin flash a stock firmware while I'm running a TW ROM, a lot of things don't get touched. When I was fiddling around with Ubuntu Touch, some directories in /system that were used by Touch would remain intact through Odin flashes if I was on TW, along with various pieces of user data, background pictures, etc. Coming from AOSP though would completely wipe everything and start from scratch.

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lordcheeto03 said:
Because your KNOX flag is already tripped, I'd say go ahead and flash a custom recovery and an AOSP ROM. Doesn't matter which one, just something that isn't TouchWiz. Once you've flashed AOSP, revert back to stock 4.4.2 firmware through Odin. I say to do that because I've noticed that if I Odin flash a stock firmware while I'm running a TW ROM, a lot of things don't get touched. When I was fiddling around with Ubuntu Touch, some directories in /system that were used by Touch would remain intact through Odin flashes if I was on TW, along with various pieces of user data, background pictures, etc. Coming from AOSP though would completely wipe everything and start from scratch.
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Thanks for the quick reply! Im downloading an AOKP rom as I'm typing this haha, and I was wondering if at this point I could just go back to Jelly Bean? I've been reading around, and everything says you cant because of the kitkat bootoader, but I'm pretty sure there's a way around the bootloader...Like I said, I flashed a kitkat rom by mistake :silly:
Hope I didn't just hijack my own thread

_meep_ said:
Thanks for the quick reply! Im downloading an AOKP rom as I'm typing this haha, and I was wondering if at this point I could just go back to Jelly Bean? I've been reading around, and everything says you cant because of the kitkat bootoader, but I'm pretty sure there's a way around the bootloader...Like I said, I flashed a kitkat rom by mistake :silly:
Hope I didn't just hijack my own thread
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I don't know for 100% certain about how KNOX works when flashing custom ROMs... I do know that you can't flash official firmware that is below your current version; but I THINK you can flash any custom ROM. Don't quote me on that or get mad at me if it doesn't work lol.

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HELP! I rooted my phone and not touchwiz is gone

Hello,
Last night I rooted my device using this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1265429) method and file from zedomax and everything worked great except when I booted my device there was a yellow triangle with a black “!” in it. I figured that just indicated the device was rooted or running a 3rd party kernel so I didn’t worry about it.
Today I launched my camera app and it failed to load the interface but showed the image from the camera momentary then crashed back to the home screen. I restarted my device and when the device restarted it was very slow and unresponsive and after unlocking it my live wallpaper was gone replaced with the last background I used before selecting a live background a couple weeks back. No icons or widgets loaded and I am unable to open the settings tray. The only things I am able to do with the phone is pull down the notification bar, respond to text messages, adjust the volume and hold power to restart the phone. All of which are very slow and delayed.
When I connect the device to my computer windows is no longer able to load the drivers and Kies is unable to connect with the device. I am not sure what caused this or how to resolve this issue so any advice or known fixes would be fantastic! I am unable to get to clockwork mod to restore my backup and I am unable to get to Kies or the phone settings to do a factory reset so I really don’t know what to do they were supposed to be a last resort and now I don’t even think I can do them. I am an experienced techie but I am new to android and this is the first device I have rooted so any advice would be great no matter how basic it may be.
UPDATE: I just connected the phone via USB to my laptop at work and it was able to discover and install everything it needed to connect with the phone. I am installing Kies now so at least there is hope of a factory restore, although I really hope it doesn't come to that!
Boot into download mode and flash the stock eg30 tar file from crawrj.
Sent From My Evo Killer!!!
Thanks Already started doing that waiting for it to download now
Still no touchwiz... great!
Try flashing a stock rom via clockworkmod.
efarley said:
Still no touchwiz... great!
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You can root again and restore your backup, or go to this website www.lostandtired.com (midnight roms blog) click on android development and download and flash the sprint bloat and TW restore zip. Hope that helps.
I flashed the stock rom which didn't change anything so then I used clockworkMod to do a factory reset which ended up trapping me into a boot loop. I could use Odin to flash new roms but the device would never go past the 4G logo
I ended up taking the device back to Best Buy and since the loading screen showed the stock rom and they couldn't get past the 4G logo I just had to say it wasn't rooted and they gave me a new one.
I would love to know if anyone has any idea of what went wrong here so that I can feel comfortable rooting again. Also if anyone has some basic articles handy that teach basics of rooting that would be great, I didn't even know about clockwork mod until after I had this problem so knowing things like that earlier would have helped a lot I think. I'll be spending the weekend looking up everything I can find on the subject so any reading you guys can suggest would be fantastic.
efarley said:
I flashed the stock rom which didn't change anything so then I used clockworkMod to do a factory reset which ended up trapping me into a boot loop. I could use Odin to flash new roms but the device would never go past the 4G logo
I ended up taking the device back to Best Buy and since the loading screen showed the stock rom and they couldn't get past the 4G logo I just had to say it wasn't rooted and they gave me a new one.
I would love to know if anyone has any idea of what went wrong here so that I can feel comfortable rooting again. Also if anyone has some basic articles handy that teach basics of rooting that would be great, I didn't even know about clockwork mod until after I had this problem so knowing things like that earlier would have helped a lot I think. I'll be spending the weekend looking up everything I can find on the subject so any reading you guys can suggest would be fantastic.
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If you a clockwork and "stock rom" you were still rooted...Doing a factory reset will send you into bootloop when rooted. Trying to flash other roms on a bootloop is not going to work. You need to have grabbed a backup such as Zedo has on his post and put the backup in clockwork folder on your phone. Then flash that in CWM. Would of brought you out of bootloop to a stock rom with his kernal. Now you can flash Roms and kernals or could of flashed crawf or anyone else FULL stock rom and been back to stock kernel and rom and not rooted.
dallastx said:
If you a clockwork and "stock rom" you were still rooted...Doing a factory reset will send you into bootloop when rooted. Trying to flash other roms on a bootloop is not going to work. You need to have grabbed a backup such as Zedo has on his post and put the backup in clockwork folder on your phone. Then flash that in CWM. Would of brought you out of bootloop to a stock rom with his kernal. Now you can flash Roms and kernals or could of flashed crawf or anyone else FULL stock rom and been back to stock kernel and rom and not rooted.
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Ohhhh that's what happened! Awesome thanks. I will be much better prepared with backups out the wazoo this time haha.
Now if only I could figure out why Touchwiz died in the first place hmmm....
I hope you can figure it out, just postin here to say that when I saw this thread, it reminded me of the thread over in the EVO forums about the guy who claimed that sprint removed his Sense from his phone.
Khilbron said:
I hope you can figure it out, just postin here to say that when I saw this thread, it reminded me of the thread over in the EVO forums about the guy who claimed that sprint removed his Sense from his phone.
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haha SPRINT removed it?! So that person thinks sprint monitors every device and has a team of techies on staff to hack your phone and brick it if you break their rules?... yeah that totally makes more sense than a file got corrupted when you were messing with the kernel.. some people maybe shouldn't be rooting their devices in the first place haha

[Q] Calkulin's Rom won't allow recovery..

So I I've had 2 different recoveries so far that have worked fine.. both came from Rogue though. One was from the 1.5 kernel (Hitman) which installed CWM Touch recovery, the other came with the normal recoveries based off CW 5.0.2.7. They were working fine until I installed Calkulin's Rom(2.8.1). Not sure if they're just incompatible or what, but when I go to recovery it shows the background image of the recovery but none of the options show up. It shows for about half a second and then it goes back to the original boot screen, then to the 2nd screen and turns on. So it basically skips right through the recovery and reboots. Do I need a new Rom or can I fix this? I really like the battery life and visuals of Calkulin's Rom and would love to be able to keep it.
EDIT: One more thing.. Since I installed the ROM, I've been getting market error 492. It doesn't allow me to install anything in the market..
I haven't tried a full wipe yet, so I guess I'll try that and then see how that works with the recovery and Rom..
I did the same thing to my phone this week, and I'm running Blazer, so i'm sure it has nothing to do with either ROM.
Not sure how I caused it but with so many folks running both without this error, I'm guessing that your issue (like mine was) was probably some how self induced.
I flashed back to stock and started over, and things have been working great. Might be worth a shot flashing back, or restore a backup and start fresh.
Haven't seen the market error before. I'm sure someone here has
Good Luck
If you got it off here, could you show me which stock you flashed..?
Everything you need is in the Epic 4G Touch Android Development section
Here is the post I used from Sfhub
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1433101
Watch the videos by Qbking77 They walk you thru everything step by step. (I hear his video intro rif every time I close my eyes now so you've been warned) Makes it super easy.
I would read everything you can and watch the videos before you get in too deep. I've had this phone since December, and just flashed my 1st ROM this week cause I've been reading up, and learning all I could before I jumped in the pool.
Well I've done all this with 2 phones before but I've never had this happen.. normally I just get the Rom and I'm good to go..
I think I must've gone wrong somewhere when I originally rooted through a stock rom.. It already seems to be more respondful.
premo1 said:
I think I must've gone wrong somewhere when I originally rooted through a stock rom.. It already seems to be more respondful.
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Try booting while holding the volume up and power button.
If that does not work, flash recovery from rom manager, and that should get you into recovery to flash whatever kernel/recovery u want.
I've done all that.. None of it works.. I'm currently ODIN'ing Factory Stock Rom with root. Hopefully after that I can redo all of these and eventually end up with a working, corresponding Rom and kernel..
premo1 said:
I've done all that.. None of it works.. I'm currently ODIN'ing Factory Stock Rom with root. Hopefully after that I can redo all of these and eventually end up with a working, corresponding Rom and kernel..
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Good Luck.
Recovery and market are now working Thank you Adanorm!
Glad your back up and running

[Q] All 4.1.2 ROMS permanently Encrypted

I have tried everything and I have not been able to find anyone else on this site (in any on the forums) reporting this. I have been trying out 4.2.2 ROMS for a while now...and they are getting pretty good. Especially sense it only officially came out a month ago. But there seems to be a ~bluetooth~ "issue" of some sort in all the ones I have tried (that I liked). I am running Liquid with the latest everything and it rocks! ~But~ it doesn't let my bluetooth sleep, so it drains fast it if I don't turn it off. It is a big enough issue for me to go back to 4.1.2 until they improve these glitches.
That is when I discovered this weird problem. No matter which 4.1.2 ROM I flash or try to recover, I get hit with an encryption password. I am not a very creative guy; I can count all the passwords I have used in the last 20 years on one hand. I have tried every password I can thing of and nothing works. I have tried formatting the entire phone with CWM. I have tried several versions of different custom recovery systems. I cannot install a 4.1.2 ROM nor can I recovery one previously backed up. Today I completely unrooted my phone. Yep, I reversed the whole process, then tried to ODIN the original stock (un-touched, straight out of the box) ROM. Yep, it asked me for encryption code
Where can this be coming from? Why does it only happen with 4.1.2 ROMs? Please help Do I need to replace the SIM card maybe? The SIM card is the only thing I can't format.
Go into your stock recovery and wipe data, factory reset the device....g
You are my hero! I want to kiss and hug you!:highfive: I am in rooted stock now (4.1.2); from here I should be able to get into a 4.1.2 ROM that I like. I wish AxisM was available for N2 ( :
Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!!!
gregsarg said:
Go into your stock recovery and wipe data, factory reset the device....g
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LOL...
Always welcome my friend....It's no problem...
And of course...happy flashing...
Just remember to use that method when going back to full stock, or rooted stock.
It's the only way to completely clean the device for stock usage...g

double animation problem

so it seems that after I moved to an AOSP rom (and then came back) I have a lot of problems. One that is confusing is the fact that I have 2 animations (even after flashing factory ODIN stock rom).
I am getting the samsung swirly graphic animation followed by the sprint 4g lte animation. The funny thing is that the sprint music plays over the samsung animation and then the sprint animation is without sound. Why does the ODIN not clear that old animation?
Anyone else run into this? I cannot seem to clear it even after several factory resets.
P.S.... dont install an AOSP rom unless you want a lot of issues.
I'm not exactly sure what you're describing about the Samsung boot animation. Which aosp ruin did you install? We need to know so that we can have a reference and an idea on how to help, cause not all roms are created equal.
Secondly, the factory reset in recovery mode only clears user data. It doesn't reset your phone to out-of-the-box conditions. So factory testing a million times wouldn't change the boot animation (or the Rom, for that matter).
If you want to try to manually change the boot animation, there's a thread over in the themes and apps section of the Sprint s3 forums, or you can download Rom toolbox pro and they have the option in there.
Finally, most aosp roms are fairly stable. I've been running them exclusively for the past 5 months and they've gotten much more stable over that time. Yes, there are some inherit things that are less stable than on tw roms, but all-in-all, they're fairly stable. The good thing about nandroid backups is that we can flash any number of roms and always go back to something we love. That is, assuming you made a nandroid backup.
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edufur said:
so it seems that after I moved to an AOSP rom (and then came back) I have a lot of problems. One that is confusing is the fact that I have 2 animations (even after flashing factory ODIN stock rom).
I am getting the samsung swirly graphic animation followed by the sprint 4g lte animation. The funny thing is that the sprint music plays over the samsung animation and then the sprint animation is without sound. Why does the ODIN not clear that old animation?
Anyone else run into this? I cannot seem to clear it even after several factory resets.
P.S.... dont install an AOSP rom unless you want a lot of issues.
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I would suggest doing a FULL Wipe before Flashing when switching from AOSP, to TW. Or vis versa. It sounds like you have a bad flash.
What I do is :
DALVIK CACHE
CACHE PARTITION
FORMAT SYSTEM
FORMAT SD:EXT
FORMAT DATA
FORMAT CACHE
THEN WIPE ALL USER DATA/FACTORY RESET
I guess I should have been clear. I did a full wipe both ways... full wipe before installing AOSP (CM10 Stable), and a full wipe when I came back... and factory restore after odin. Even cleared internal storage. Nothing restores the original boot animation. Is there a way to make this thing fully stock out of the box?
Even since the CM10 flash (stable build), my battery now drains faster and GPS locks slower and drifts... it used to not drift.
You can flash freeza's Stock Rooted Rom. The link is below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1910947
TEAM MiK
MikROMs Since 3/13/11
prboy1969 said:
You can flash freeza's Stock Rooted Rom. The link is below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2586
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Could you explain to me how a stock rooted rom is closer to out of the box than the shipped rom which has been factory reset?
Does his stock rooted ROM guarantee to remove the double animation and return the ROM to the original single sprint animation?
And will his rom somehow fix the anomalies that started after I flashed CM10? If so, how does it accomplish what the shipped ROM wont?
edufur said:
Could you explain to me how a stock rooted rom is closer to out of the box than the shipped rom which has been factory reset?
Does his stock rooted ROM guarantee to remove the double animation and return the ROM to the original single sprint animation?
And will his rom somehow fix the anomalies that started after I flashed CM10? If so, how does it accomplish what the shipped ROM wont?
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What exactly do you mean by "shipped rom" from out of the box? What Android version was it? I know our phones originally shipped with Android 4.0.4, so if you're flashing a "true" out-of-the-box Rom, it'd be 4.0.4. Please help me understand what you've done so that I can help you fix it.
Was the "out-of-the-box" Rom a TAR file that you flashed via Odin? Where did you get it from? I'm getting a little confused when you say you did a "full wipe" (which is typically done in Recovery), but then flashed a Rom through Odin. Typically, people only use one or the other. It's making it more difficult to understand exactly what you did, and therefore it's making it difficult for me (and others) to help you.
As far as your most recent questions: I can't guarantee anything. I'm just a guy who has done a lot of work on his phone who is trying to help you out here. At the end of the day, I have about a 90% passing rate when I give people help (and they actually follow it). And when my directions don't work, I typically stick around and keep helping until they do get their phone working (or until someone else, like Ed or CNexus, picks up the case).
I can say that Freeza's stock rooted rom works exactly like a stock phone (with all updates), but just with Root. It should give you back the stock boot animation and reset everything to stock. The file you want is:
DeOdex:
Sprint Touchwiz Jelly Bean 4.1.2 L710VPBMD4
MD5: 77262D9D6CF1A6AF30A8981A95A75D57
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You might as well flash the latest baseband/modem. That file is:
MD4 Firmware:
MD4 Firmware/modem/baseband update
MD5: EEEAFDBE59CF9C5B492B1A591EC92D02
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Well then I appreciate your attempt to help, but that doesn't resolve my problem. I'm sure it can resolve other people's problems (if their problem isnt a double animation problem).
To answer you questions, there are 2 stock roms available that are considered "shipped" ROMS... as in... what the ROM was shipped with. Those ROMS can be flashed via odin and are featured in many of the threads here. When a person flashes these ROMs with odin, it covers everything... recovery, radio, kernel, etc. It removes custom recovery and root. After flashing, one would do a factory reset, either in the rom after it boots, or from the stock recovery. This brings you as close to "out-of-the-box" as you can get... "out-of-the-box" means the way it was when you bought it and opened the box. The problem I am having... is that even after this process, I still have a double boot animation. The samsung with a swirl, and the sprint 4g with flying wires.... and the sprint music plays out of sequence with the sprint part of the animation.
I hope this clears things up for you.
I dont need a new rooted or custom rom... what I do need is to get back 100% to out-of-the-box state. I am close, but the animation is obviously not covered when flashing a shipped rom.
edufur said:
Well then I appreciate your attempt to help, but that doesn't resolve my problem. I'm sure it can resolve other people's problems (if their problem isnt a double animation problem).
To answer you questions, there are 2 stock roms available that are considered "shipped" ROMS... as in... what the ROM was shipped with. Those ROMS can be flashed via odin and are featured in many of the threads here. When a person flashes these ROMs with odin, it covers everything... recovery, radio, kernel, etc. It removes custom recovery and root. After flashing, one would do a factory reset, either in the rom after it boots, or from the stock recovery. This brings you as close to "out-of-the-box" as you can get... "out-of-the-box" means the way it was when you bought it and opened the box. The problem I am having... is that even after this process, I still have a double boot animation. The samsung with a swirl, and the sprint 4g with flying wires.... and the sprint music plays out of sequence with the sprint part of the animation.
I hope this clears things up for you.
I dont need a new rooted or custom rom... what I do need is to get back 100% to out-of-the-box state. I am close, but the animation is obviously not covered when flashing a shipped rom.
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When Flash, or ODIN the Stock Rom it should include the Stock bootanimation. But since the issue still persists. You can go to THIS thread and get the Stock bootanimation. Also you can use a File Explorer to navigate to system / media to make sure that the permissions are set, and that you only have one file in there.
prboy1969 said:
When Flash, or ODIN the Stock Rom it should include the Stock bootanimation. But since the issue still persists. You can go to THIS thread and get the Stock bootanimation. Also you can use a File Explorer to navigate to system / media to make sure that the permissions are set, and that you only have one file in there.
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That's the animation that is currently on my phone and is followed by the sprint (Original) animation. The animation you link is not the one that is supposed to be on the phone... only the sprint one should be. The is the problem I am having... I have both on there. I need to figure out how to remove the other one.
edufur said:
That's the animation that is currently on my phone and is followed by the sprint (Original) animation. The animation you link is not the one that is supposed to be on the phone... only the sprint one should be. The is the problem I am having... I have both on there. I need to figure out how to remove the other one.
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Using a File explorer navigate to system / media. Then delete the one you do not want, and reboot. It should be back to normal.
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MikROMs Since 3/13/11

Issue with booting on 4.3

Alright, so I am having this weird issue. I thought I found the fix for it several times, however, NO dice.
I've researched for a few hours now, I just don't know if I have over looked it or what. If it has been answered, I apologize.
I looked at the modified recoveries thread for newer s3 devices, but it doesn't seem to fit my area of error.
The Details:
I've been really curious to try some 4.3 roms. Of course, they are for D2SPR. I get them to flash correctly, after a full wipe. The issue happens right after I set everything up in the phone, and reboot. When I reboot I get hung at the splash screen. I have tried to reflash the rom muliple times only to fall flat on the splash screen again. Now, I don't have an SD Card in the phone, except, I left a TW rom in a folder. I use twrp, forgot to mention that. I rewiped the phone and installed that touchwiz rom, and still it wouldn't allow me to get past splash into that tw rom.
So the only way that I could think of to get out of this hole was to flash the rooted LJ7 tar file I have through ODIN. After getting the S3 into download mode, Odin successfully push LJ7 into my phone. Now again, I had an issue getting it to boot. I read somewhere that when this happens, I need to check the Erase NAND option in Odin. So I tried that out and forced LJ7 back on. After successfully flashing, it boots but gets stuck on the boot animation; the fix to that is booting into stock recovery and wiping once more. Then you are able to get into the OS.
I let the phone sit and take the OTAs till I get from LJ7 to MD4 so I re-root the phone using Odin and Chain Fire's root method. Now I am able to flash the recovery (TWRP) using OpenScript through Goo Manager.
I've only tried flashing Illusion and Carbon's 4.3 rom. The second time I used Carbon's rom. Same results. So I have no Idea what the heck is going on. Can anyone explain this to me better or point me into the direction that I need to go?
Thanks much!
your not the only one that has this problem i have the same thing have tried everything and most of the 4.3 roms same thing. no one on xda seems to know at least i havent gotten any help or responses i have just given u on 4.3. good luck finding any ideas.
Set it up I'm sure you restored some apps and data which may no longer be compatible. Or data which is corrupting the 4.3 rom. Try just flashing the rom setting up your Google account and don't add any apps. See if it does it.
Either way this seems to be a common issue across different devices and 4.3 seems it's part of using roms built on leaks and ports. None are bug free. Very similar to all gb leaks back in the day that would go into bootlooping.
Have a great day!
bbrita said:
your not the only one that has this problem i have the same thing have tried everything and most of the 4.3 roms same thing. no one on xda seems to know at least i havent gotten any help or responses i have just given u on 4.3. good luck finding any ideas.
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Well, it's good to know that I'm not the only one, however, it's horrible that it's happening to others. I appreciate you spreading the info!
edfunkycold said:
Set it up I'm sure you restored some apps and data which may no longer be compatible. Or data which is corrupting the 4.3 rom. Try just flashing the rom setting up your Google account and don't add any apps. See if it does it.
Either way this seems to be a common issue across different devices and 4.3 seems it's part of using roms built on leaks and ports. None are bug free. Very similar to all gb leaks back in the day that would go into bootlooping.
Have a great day!
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When I go to set up, I just install about 15 apps, I don't restore. I just download them fresh. I had a habit of doing that and it just stuck. I don't restore anything with Titanium or and root backup/restore app. Could one of those apps not be updated then that causes the partitions to get locked up, or just corrupt /data in general? If that's whats happening.
I just find it extremely odd that I (maybe others), can't wipe, and then re flash another rom; actually I can, it just gets stuck at the splash and never goes forward, that is what had me confused most. If I had an sd card, and formatted data itself, would that fly?
thanks Ed i have tried this after the first 2 tries . i dont have any problems installing 4.3 its just after rebooting it gets stuck. Like you said there are always bugs Im fine with using other roms for now. Hopefully when an official 4.3 drops problems will go away

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