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Before I get started I want to say before I read the Engadget review I have already read reviews from cnet, and the huffington Post.
I was really shocked by the review Engadget has published for the Lumia 900. The other three professional reviews I had read had mostly praises for the phone. They all mentioned the low display resolution limitation of current WP7 devices however they also never mentioned how stunning the display actually was. The color saturation and sunlight visibility of the screen appear to be amazing. Engadget fails to mention that but instead complains about how the screen isn't tapered.
To make it even worse they started a hardware article with 2 negative comments about the phone. The screen display and build quality. before I get into the build quality All I have to say is that unless you feel the phone is absolute crap you don't do this.
However all the other reviewed from other professional organizations and AT&T representatives have raved about the great the build quality is. Even Engadget employees sent to CES and MWC raved about this, so why now call it a negative?
Engadget, I am aware you believe the WP martetplace is disappointing because it has only 70000+ apps. However it has either all the main apps you actually use or a decent alternative. The marketplace doesn't need a lot of crappy apps, see google play, it just needs to have the ones you use. Seriously, who cares about fart apps or 50 apps all doing the exact same thing
Overall I felt this review was meant to downgrade the perception of the Nokia Lumia 900. It just doesn't fall in line with anyhting else I have read. I knew they had an apple and htc fetish but I still respected most of their reviews, however that changed today with this travesty.
I am even starting to think maybe Tim Cook called them directly to make sure AT&T pays for calling any other phone other than the iPhone 4S their "flagship."
** removed th verge review. I know I read another major professional review, I thought it was the verge but I guess it was someone else.
I thought the same thing. The reviewer seemed biased (against the phone) from the start. In contrast I just read the review on WPCentral and thought it was the best and most informative Lumia 900 review yet. Interestingly enough there is a comment at the end of that review that talks about the guy at Engadget and speculates he is known for disliking anything Microsoft.
Actually Engadget review was more favorable to Lumia 900 than Verge review.
If you write Engadget on a piece of paper, then hold it in front of a mirror, and angle it just so...it will say. ... Enohpi
Verge's review was worse, watch it on youtube
nokiaqueen said:
Verge's review was worse, watch it on youtube
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No doubt it was the worst review. He likes the hardware for the most part, but slams the WP7 os, giving the os a lower score than when they reviewed the 800. Just confirms to me that Topolsky really is a MS hater. Some of his complaints sound like a typical Android fanboy, classics such as 'single core cpu' and 'low resolution screen'.
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No doubt it was the worst review. He likes the hardware for the most part, but slams the WP7 os, giving the os a lower score than when they reviewed the 800. Just confirms to me that Topolsky really is a MS hater. Some of his complaints sound like a typical Android fanboy, classics such as 'single core cpu' and 'low resolution screen'.
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Just watched it and it definitely looks like he wanted to take an opportunity to say how much he doesn't like the Windows Phone OS. That's fine if he doesn't like it but shouldn't he be reviewing the phone and how it works with the OS? Definite biased review - like he really didn't even want to use the phone because it has WP on it.
Everyone has opinions, and he's entitled to his. He doesn't like it, and its his job to share his opinion. My son tried windows phone, then went back to android. He sounded like this guy. He could pick things out...this and that, and did not consider the overall experience. Thats fine. There are lots of things to love in android, and lots of things to love in Windows phone. Pick what works for you.
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I was just reading the CNET review.
One of the strange things I saw in the Engadget review was the comment, I won't fit in your pocket...or something like that. I thought that was a strange thing to say. For those obviously looking for something to hang on to..yeah...its bigger. But...the way he said it..like somebody else said...it was obvious he didn't even want to do the review.
Anyway...the CNET review uses...get this...the Cyan 900 half in, half out of the pocket. I had to laugh...scared the cat, who knocked by bowl of cereal off my desk. Which gives me just another reason to not watch ENiphoneGADGET reviews anymore.
Unfortunately, this review confirms that it has same crappy camera as Lumia 800 does. Well, that was expected, but stiil, there were some hints and i had hopes...
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Unfortunately, this review confirms that it has same crappy camera as Lumia 800 does. Well, that was expected, but stiil, there were some hints and i had hopes...
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Actually, this review does nothing of the sort. You have a guy, who obviously does not even want to touch the phone, doing a review that searches for anything nice to say. According to him, this phone is a bottom dweller and he needs to disinfect his hands, immediately.
Thats not to say the camera is in deed good. I've heard good, I've heard bad. Persoanlly I use a camera phone for quick shots, and only 1 time in my many phones has a camera on a phone not been good enough for that...the Dell Venue Pro. Otherwise...I've been good. Of course my expectations do not include front cover Vogue shots.
The Verge review was unbelievably biased. I had hoped for more from that site after they picked up Tom Warren, but no luck. Just as lame as Engadget.
I think the worst I read was on Pocketnow. I don't event think the reviewer ever used the phone. He used a stock photo of 2 iPhones to compare the screen resolution.
With so many android phones out there, most of the sites do cater to android and apple...as they should. Most hard core android users have nothing good to say about wp or apple. Most apple users have nothing good to say about android or wp. They simply don't realize they lose their credibility by acting unbiased.
With hundreds of thousands of androids being registered everyday, I wonder why any other phone is ever going to be released.
All but the most hardcore of users fail to realize the lack of quality hardware and software wise on an android phone. Hardcore users can mod and tweek and do this and that...I used to be because they can...but now I lean towards because they have to.
I had the pleasure of working for a company that tested windows phones before the original release. I was majorly disappointed. I came to realize later that dissapointment was because my expectations were too high. I was looking for shooting stars and glitzy this and that. What MS focused on was pure reliablity. After a year I reset my expectations and the Windows Phone, IMO, is far superior than other phones. It works every time. I came back to the HD7 and Dell Venue Pro, moved to the Samsung Focus S and now on to the Lumia 900. I have not been disappointed yet. I've adjusted my expectation to the WP and use the People tab, and Messaging Hub and think of these things as the better way. My daughter just converted to the Lumia 710 from android...why....because of reliability. My son is still on android after trying WP...but he's a modder.
So I watch these reviews and laugh....every review they say this is their favorite phone ever....uh huh...why...cause their last favorite got to have android phone doesn't work any more....oh well...must be a verizon customer.
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All but the most hardcore of users fail to realize the lack of quality hardware and software wise on an android phone. Hardcore users can mod and tweek and do this and that...I used to be because they can...but now I lean towards because they have to.
I had the pleasure of working for a company that tested windows phones before the original release. I was majorly disappointed. I came to realize later that dissapointment was because my expectations were too high. I was looking for shooting stars and glitzy this and that. What MS focused on was pure reliablity. After a year I reset my expectations and the Windows Phone, IMO, is far superior than other phones. It works every time.
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This time's 1000+. The majority of my friends are not tech heads. They just want their devices to work. The ones who have gone to WP7 have all said the same thing - they love it. Its quick, easy to use, and looks good. They could care less about modding or skinning their phones, or how many cores it has, how much ram, or the screen resolution.
When it comes to WP7, MS should really steal Apple's moto of 'it just works', and it works well.
I must've read 10+ reviews since they all came out last night. The overall response is positive. I think Verge and Engadget had the harshest reviews comparing apps and camera quality to the 4s and Nexus.
2 things I don't care much about. None of the bad reviews have me second guessing my decision to switch from my iPhone 4.
Can't wait till the 9th!
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I must've read 10+ reviews since they all came out last night. The overall response is positive. I think Verge and Engadget had the harshest reviews comparing apps and camera quality to the 4s and Nexus.
2 things I don't care much about. None of the bad reviews have me second guessing my decision to switch from my iPhone 4.
Can't wait till the 9th!
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Same here on all of that!
You guys see Walt's? I had a good laugh on that one. He did Steve proud.
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You guys see Walt's? I had a good laugh on that one. He did Steve proud.
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Do you have a link to check out?
watch this review guys, best yet. aaron speaks from his own personal experiance, not what people want or like to hear.
part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHXbFzZ4taY
part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBMc9qNaT8c
pretty sure im getting this phone now. he didnt complain about screen resolution and he liked it after just using the galaxy nexus for 15 days
i read somewhere Nokia is working on another patch for the camera on the 900, do any of you know if this is true? every review says the camera is "okay".. i expect more from nokia
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No doubt it was the worst review. He likes the hardware for the most part, but slams the WP7 os, giving the os a lower score than when they reviewed the 800. Just confirms to me that Topolsky really is a MS hater. Some of his complaints sound like a typical Android fanboy, classics such as 'single core cpu' and 'low resolution screen'.
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I read all of these reviews today and they really got off topic of the Device and got on the OS. So I took it upon myself to Tweet both Verge and engadget to see what the Lumia 900 has to do, to be as good as Android or iOS. The things they gripped about such as the third party apps lagging, same thing that happens on iOS and Android so that argument isnt valid. Of course I didnt get a reply from them. I agree the OS is missing some things but the device funtions well and does what its suppose to do.
And IM SICK AND TIRED of people bashing WP for not having multi Cores, if anything it should show everyone that you dont need multi cores to operate well. They tend to bash the specs but WP functions just as fast as any other OS but with lower specs. Most people dont even care about specs as long as it works well and does what its suppose to.
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watch this review guys, best yet. aaron speaks from his own personal experiance, not what people want or like to hear.
part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHXbFzZ4taY
part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBMc9qNaT8c
pretty sure im getting this phone now. he didnt complain about screen resolution and he liked it after just using the galaxy nexus for 15 days
i read somewhere Nokia is working on another patch for the camera on the 900, do any of you know if this is true? every review says the camera is "okay".. i expect more from nokia
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Thanks for posting the link to the PhoneDog review. It was definitely positive and he compared it to other phones and operating systems and based his review on the phone itself while pointing out how the WP OS works.
You guys are right that it's like TheVerge and Engadget reviewer's did as little as they could to explore around the phone and know how to use the OS. All I got from them was "The Lumia 900 is a nice phone but man do we hate this OS. So we overall the score is a 5 out of 10". I can't believe they get paid to be lazy.
A video below of a well known tech blogger who gives his impressions and thoughts about the galaxy s3 and he compares it to the One X. In short words he states that the One X is hands down the better phone in build quality, overall design is better and for a flagship phone the One X feels more premium and in all aspects beats the S3.
So this for all the members out there who are debating to go for the S3 or One X check this video first and well you should have your answer.
Would like to say this is not to start another flame war thread this is merely to point out to new users that this thread is to give pointers to members who open threads and ask about if they should buy the One X or not. So rather than opening pointless threads and asking come here instead and watch the video and this should make your mind up. Feel free to comment and ask your questions here. Please do not open threads asking if you should buy it or not. Ask your questions here
Enjoy
I'm getting crazy about these comparison threads....
Just buy whatever you like. No phone will be unique so stop whining!
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I'm getting crazy about these comparison threads....
Just buy whatever you like. No phone will be unique so stop whining!
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dude i am not whining. i already have the one x. this is basically to show people the reason why they should get the phone and also this is a thread were people can ask all the questions they want and ask regarding why they should buy the One X. Simple as that..No moaning or comparing..
and another thing. would you prefer people opening pointless threads all over the forum asking if they should buy the phone or not? is it not better to have one thread were they can ask instead. this is the whole logic behind this thread and just give them the above video that clearly states why they should go for it and answers most frequent questions people have anyway. So no whining, no moaning and no comparing.
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dude i am not whining. i already have the one x. this is basically to show people the reason why they should get the phone and also this is a thread were people can ask all the questions they want and ask regarding why they should buy the One X. Simple as that..No moaning or comparing..
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I know, it was not directly pointed at you. But the people comparing phones...
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I know, it was not directly pointed at you. But the people comparing phones...
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i know...and i am getting sick and tired of people opening threads and asking if they should buy the phone or not..hence why i found this video and thought stick it in a thread and get everyone to watch it and it basically answers most common questions people have when asking if they should buy it or not
Forgive me if I seem a bit cynical, but a large number of your posts in the HOX forums are about the S3, so you can't blame people for thinking you have a hidden agenda.
It's almost like you're trying some sort of bizarre brainwashing technique - mention the S3 as many times as possible while at the same time denying any affiliation to it and people will start to think it's better in some way.
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Forgive me if I seem a bit cynical, but a large number of your posts in the HOX forums are about the S3, so you can't blame people for thinking you have a hidden agenda.
It's almost like you're trying some sort of bizarre brainwashing technique - mention the S3 as many times as possible while at the same time denying any affiliation to it and people will start to think it's better in some way.
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no you have every right to be cynical. and yeah i was leaning towards going for the s3. but like always when actually sitting down and thinking about it and reading alot this time around and reading posts by Hamdir and reading his threads about the One X there is no doubt that i have one of the best phones in the world and i should stop being a cry baby.
my anger and my moaning was due to all the issues i had with the One X so far. but after being told that they are rebuilding my phone from scratch in repair center and sticking brand new parts and reading posts in the comparison threads and the video above in the end there is only one winner and that is the One X..and i thought i share this video and to others who was in the same position as me can see why the One X is better..Hope this clears it up a bit more...and i still stand by saying that this as well can help people who wondering about the one x that here is the best place to be to find out why they should go for it
The guy in the video doesn’t even have a S3 on hand to review, all he did was summarise what he read on the web.
Personally had the S3 came out around the same time as One X, I’d have gone for the S3. But after playing around with the S3 in the shop, I don’t see any reason to sell my One X (running smoothly on custom rom) for the it.
However, the S3 screen is just as good as the One X IMO, have advantages of unlocked bootloader, likely longer screen usage time and expendable memory/battery.
I think Samsung made the wrong decision to make their flagship phone with 4.8” screen. When I was in the phone shop, a lot of people was interested in the S3 but was not sure about the large size. Samsung don’t have a similar performance phone with smaller size like the One S.
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no you have every right to be cynical. and yeah i was leaning towards going for the s3. but like always when actually sitting down and thinking about it and reading alot this time around and reading posts by Hamdir and reading his threads about the One X there is no doubt that i have one of the best phones in the world and i should stop being a cry baby.
my anger and my moaning was due to all the issues i had with the One X so far. but after being told that they are rebuilding my phone from scratch in repair center and sticking brand new parts and reading posts in the comparison threads and the video above in the end there is only one winner and that is the One X..and i thought i share this video and to others who was in the same position as me can see why the One X is better..Hope this clears it up a bit more...and i still stand by saying that this as well can help people who wondering about the one x that here is the best place to be to find out why they should go for it
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I also have problems with the HOX and a the moment its on repair the second time (i also got a new one with baaad screen ripple effect). The S3 is a nice phone but its not great like the HOX. Im really annoyed about the quality management of HTC and shame on them they released a phone with such f***ing issues like screen flex/ripple or screen loose.
In the end i decided to wait until i get a good one without any issues, because i freaking love the HOX, especially the screen and the unibody which feel pretty noble. I dont care about getting additional free space like micro SD(and come on 32 GB is more than enough) neither the possibility of changing the battery. This phone is sure one of the best phones the smartphone market will have for quite a period of time.
My advice to potential buyers is they should try it in a store and decide if they like it or not.
So thats all for now.
@goku have fun with your one x if you get it back ;-D.
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I also have problems with the HOX and a the moment its on repair the second time (i also got a new one with baaad screen ripple effect). The S3 is a nice phone but its not great like the HOX. Im really annoyed about the quality management of HTC and shame on them they released a phone with such f***ing issues like screen flex/ripple or screen loose.
In the end i decided to wait until i get a good one without any issues, because i freaking love the HOX, especially the screen and the unibody which feel pretty noble. I dont care about getting additional free space like micro SD(and come on 32 GB is more than enough) neither the possibility of changing the battery. This phone is sure one of the best phones the smartphone market will have for quite a period of time.
My advice to potential buyers is they should try it in a store and decide if they like it or not.
So thats all for now.
@goku have fun with your one x if you get it back ;-D.
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Thank you. Well it has been two weeks now without it. And yes looking forward having it bk. Advice to potential owners is not to get sucked by the hype but instead to go for user experience which the one x delivers.
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Now a days people just care about Benchmark score rather than the overall quality of the phone. My advice go through all aspects before you buy it. There are lot more than just benchmark scores.
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Now a days people just care about Benchmark score rather than the overall quality of the phone. My advice go through all aspects before you buy it. There are lot more than just benchmark scores.
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exactly. this is why my advice is rather than thinking about performance go for the all round media experience and user experience out of the box instead of support from third party software..this is were the One X provides it.
Like i keep on saying. I will not lie..I was seriously rethinking of selling my one x and going back to sammy. but after reading user experiences with the handset and actually playing with my friends one for a day i am glad to stick with my one x. plus the video in OP sums up the reason why i suggest to users who open up threads asking why they should buy this to have a look. The video says it all.
This video was uploaded I think a couple of days after Samsung's announcement. The person doesn't have the phone and gives his opinion. That's understandable. However people that actually have had the S3 are saying that it's a better device than the one x. Why listen to this guy who gives his subjective opinions?
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This video was uploaded I think a couple of days after Samsung's announcement. The person doesn't have the phone and gives his opinion. That's understandable. However people that actually have had the S3 are saying that it's a better device than the one x. Why listen to this guy who gives his subjective opinions?
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This video was uploaded I think a couple of days after Samsung's announcement. The person doesn't have the phone and gives his opinion. That's understandable. However people that actually have had the S3 are saying that it's a better device than the one x. Why listen to this guy who gives his subjective opinions?
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hey baron mate. true the blogger did not have the phone and commented from watching the many videos out there already. i really do listen to what he has to say as he has been reviewing many phones for the last few years and he is a vivid android user and i respect his opinions as due to his reviews i made decisions to buy a handset.
Like i said many times in this thread. The reason why i posted this video is for the many members who open pointless "why i should buy the One X" thread or "what are the advantages" threads to come here instead and watch the video and see why they should buy this phone. It is not to compare which one is better it is for people to see what qualities the phone has over others and go for it..
So One X forum, i give a One X video that a tech blogger gives his opinions about it over another flagship and answers the many questions that members have about the phone. That way they can see the video and make up there own minds.
and please let us not start this into a S3 is better and that kinda stuff as this is not what this thread was meant for. this is for as a guide to other new members who are interested in buying the phone and the video gives the points on why users should do over the s3 and other phones in general. so please let us keep it to that
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hey baron mate. true the blogger did not have the phone and commented from watching the many videos out there already. i really do listen to what he has to say as he has been reviewing many phones for the last few years and he is a vivid android user and i respect his opinions as due to his reviews i made decisions to buy a handset.
Like i said many times in this thread. The reason why i posted this video is for the many members who open pointless "why i should buy the One X" thread or "what are the advantages" threads to come here instead and watch the video and see why they should buy this phone. It is not to compare which one is better it is for people to see what qualities the phone has over others and go for it..
So One X forum, i give a One X video that a tech blogger gives his opinions about it over another flagship and answers the many questions that members have about the phone. That way they can see the video and make up there own minds.
and please let us not start this into a S3 is better and that kinda stuff as this is not what this thread was meant for. this is for as a guide to other new members who are interested in buying the phone and the video gives the points on why users should do over the s3 and other phones in general. so please let us keep it to that
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Don't get me wrong I respect your opinion. But let's be real here, it is an attempt to say that the one x is better. This is you from your op:
"In short words he states that the One X is hands down the better phone in build quality, overall design is better and for a flagship phone the One X feels more premium and in all aspects beats the S3."
Now you tell me that it isn't to compare it to the S3? I mean I know this is a one x forum and most will agree with you, but let's say what it is. I've watched blackprince310 forever in fact, I'm one of his subscribers. But I can give you easily 5 links that show people comparing the S3 and the one x and they're saying it's better, and they actually have both phones in hands! I'm not trying to make it look like Im hating on the one x, my one x has shipped from handtec YESTERDAY and just cleared customs in the US. I've spent a little more than 600$ on it so there's no reason for me to be a hater. If you want to help people make a one x purchase, you should point out the things where it excels at, not providing a vid of a guy GIVING HiS OPINION ON THE S3 release. It makes no sense. Sorry bro.
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Lol, it's inevitable. The thread itself was a mistake cause it's not helping people wanting to purchase the phone, just trying to prove that the S3 is a disappointment and that the one x is better. That's not how you try to get people to buy a new device. Ok I'm done
I've looked the video and its not "all" realistic because hi has no S III but it's his opinion, and I must say that I agree with him.
Hi praised the hardware, which is good.
What really bothered me was the comments that the people wrote.
It's disgusting.
It looks like now a days almost nobody buys a phone to suits his needs or what he prefers but just to show of or out or Fanboyism !!!!
As soon as one make a bad comment about the phone and is not other ones "brand" or "choice" than he's: "retarded", "f...", ............... !!!!!
For the new phone buyers.
Go to the shop and compare the phones there. Make a decision. If you cant decide doe to the technical side come and ask. Bare in mind that the answers that you get can be different. If you choose S III and you ask in this forum you'll be disappointed of your choice . The other way around too ( One X on the S III forum). As for how it feel, design and all the rest, decide your self. It's our phone.
I myself, don't have One X or Galaxy S III but I've played with both and they are not my choice
I have One S
Sorry my bad English.
Goku can I just ask what specific problems you had with your HOX? I seem to have a few but if I send it back to HTC I'm worried they'll try and blah me off. I have over heating battery, all the time, even worse when on charge, dead pixel, yellow tinge when battery is hot, lol which is all the time, battery life is shocking, I'm on the latest update and tbh its worse than when I got it, and I get the rainbow effect when I touch the sides of the screen (i don't know of this is what people are calling rippling?) Reckon they'll swap it for a brand new one?
Samsung did make a mistake by not releasing a smaller screened performance phone alongside the S3 however the S3 is on another level to the HOX.
That is all
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Read the rules for general sticky regarding comparison threads....
EDIT: to clarify here, I'm after people's opinions who have moved from other devices such as the iPhone 4/S, Galaxy S3 etc.
I bought the One X with high hopes and, much to my dismay, the camera really doesn't exhibit the sort of quality that HTC suggested it might. Whilst the wider aperture IS noticeable, the overal lens quality is I think very average. I certainly noticed the difference between shots taken on my S3 and the One X. The most irksome thing though is that the One X compresses images so badly, yet allows no option to change it.
I still think the lens quality of HTC cameras is below par. It might be my imagination but I still see a dull, smeary quality to images taken on the One X. It's a massive step up from the Sensation, sure, but is anyone else a bit let down by the image quality on their device?
Just as an example, I took a shot of the same view in my messy, fairly dully-lit room on my One X and my old iPhone 4. It's worth noting that the iPhone image is 50% larger in size than the one of the One X, despite the One X having a 62% higher megapixel count.
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http://db.tt/SDrPvKGe
I'm not wanting to slate the device unnecessarily - I still love it! I just feel a bit let down with the image quality, given how hyped it - and ImageSense was. Maybe HTC should change their lens supplier
How many camera applications did you try ?
I think its known that the original htc camera app does too much compression.
There are alternatives, as more threads to this issue. Did you check them out?
@Op,
I find it a bit disapointing to see people keep opening threads without doing a little search first.
There already exist a lot of threads about the camera, it's a waist on the board.
Please ask yourself what are you trying to succeed with opening this thread, what kind of responses would you get?
Yes, no, yes, no...?
Laurentius26 said:
@Op,
I find it a bit disapointing to see people keep opening threads without doing a little search first.
There already exist a lot of threads about the camera, it's a waist on the board.
Please ask yourself what are you trying to succeed with opening this thread, what kind of responses would you get?
Yes, no, yes, no...?
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Get a grip, there is no need to be a moody sod just because I said something negative about your device. I think it was perfectly constructive. I searched the forums and there is no such thread other than one about Sense Versus AOSP.
I just wanted to see if anyone else was a bit disappointed with the camera, and what suggestions they might have, as well as what their opinion is if they've moved from another device.
I like using HDR and haven't found a third party app yet that allows me to do so.
Besides which, shouldn't HTC have released a camera app that excels in the first place?
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Please use one of the already existent camera threads
Don't flame. This is a constructive thread for those considering the GS3. I had both the International and AT&T versions of the HTC One X. Below, I'm going to list the benefits/disadvantages of both from my perspective. Hopefully this will help those of you who are on the fence about this.
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Issues
Multitasking - No need to beat this to death. It simply didn't work as expected and while not a deal-breaker, it was very annoying, especially after going back to a phone where it works normally.
Bluetooth - I had all kinds of Bluetooth issues, from the connection to my car stereo, to others you have read about in the forums. I could live with most of them, but, again, annoying.
Exchange E-mail issues - Periodically, the mail app would just stop receiving exchange mail from both of my exchange accounts. It's like it would go to sleep and not wake up until I manually refreshed. Both the AT&T model and the International model did this. It was very frustrating, and kind of a deal-breaker on a smartphone for me.
Power button - Minor niggle, but I hated the placement of the power button and it was recessed a little far for my liking.
Battery - My battery life was okay, but not great. I was expecting miracles based on the battery tests, but my experience was that it was much less. I could make it thorugh a day with light-medium use, but just barely. I'm honestly not sure whether the Tegra or S4 did better. The S4 seemed to last longer with use, where the Tegra had better idle time.
Positives
The Screen - While I don't have any issue with the GS3's screen, the One X is just that much better. The SLCD2 screen is just that good.
Sense - Love it or hate it, I liked the optimizations that Sense added. Especially the social integration and the direct plugins to Dropbox and, on the International version, Skydrive. I will sincerely miss those.
Look and Feel - The One X was a good-looking phone and felt solid.
Camera - The GS3 camera app is okay, but the One X was definitely better with respect to burst mode and shutter speed. Not having to switch to a special mode for burst is priceless and the GS3 takes a few seconds to focus sometimes, where the One X did not. That being said, I think picture quality is better on the GS3.
Galaxy S III
I'll be the first to admit that I initially had no interest in the GS3. It looked like a barely better Nexus to me when they first showed it off. But then I got my hands on one.
Issues
Camera shortcuts - When you set up shortcuts in the camera app, they don't stay. Kind of defeats the purpose. The Galaxy Note had the same issue, so it seems to be something Samsung just hasn't fixed.
Seriously, that's it (so far). I have tested the hell out of the International version and have an AT&T version coming next week. I have yet to find any other faults or issues with this phone. Build quality is subjective.
Positives
Power button - minor, but I like the way the power button feels and it's easier to access with the index finger with one hand on this phone.
Face Stay - Seriously, how did I ever live without this? I hate when the screen dims while I'm reading. Face Stay works really well.
Dedicated menu button - This will matter less as time goes on and developers update their apps, but you get all of your screen real estate right now because there isn't a strip being taken up by that legacy menu button.
Notification light - The one on the HTC was rather dim and hard to see. In addition, it would stop blinking after a predetermined amount of time. The GS3 has a much better notification light, much like the one on the Galaxy Nexus.
Battery Life - Has been superb for me. Granted, it is much larger, but it doesn't make the phone heavy, so the more the merrier. It easily beats out both of my One Xs in battery life. I can't wait to see how the S4 model does.
Everything just works - This is something I took for granted with the One X. I wanted to keep it so bad, that I started making compromises and "living with" the issues it had. On the GS3, I have no bluetooth issues. I can stream Slacker in the background without it dying. Multitasking works great, and everything just works as expected (and intended), including exchange mail.
Bluetooth Voice Dialing - This was taken off of the One X for some reason, but I'm happy to report that it works and works well on the GS3.
Ultimately, both are great phones. Having used both (and variants of both) for several months, these are my impressions. Your mileage may vary, but I hope this helps any of you who are on the fence about which one to get or whether to change phones.
I've got both and gave my gs3 to an employee.
I disliked it.
Loving the One x.
Give it some time and you will also notice its downfalls. The honeymoon will be over.
1 fault??
Check their forum now after a few weeks of public testing. Looking more and more like the one x forum used to.
Your post would have been better off in the GS3 forum however...
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xchasa said:
I've got both and gave my gs3 to an employee.
I disliked it.
Loving the One x.
Your post would have been better off in the GS3 forum however...
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It's going to be skewed in either forum. If I posted it there, The GS3 owners would be fully supportive. I see a lot of threads in here with people asking if they should switch to the GS3, so this seemed a more appropriate place.
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It's going to be skewed in either forum. If I posted it there, The GS3 owners would be fully supportive. I see a lot of threads in here with people asking if they should switch to the GS3, so this seemed a more appropriate place.
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I understand. You will get flamers wherever these posts are created.
Glad you like the Galaxy.
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Thanks for the information. Guess i'll be getting an S3 for my wife
No comparison threads between devices should be placed here. They will be moved to Android-General or they will be deleted.
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From general rules which is a sticky.
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It's going to be skewed in either forum. If I posted it there, The GS3 owners would be fully supportive. I see a lot of threads in here with people asking if they should switch to the GS3, so this seemed a more appropriate place.
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yes but if you dont buy the HOX for its Tegra features
you didnt mention speed or gaming
so yea the GS3 might be better for so let me list my own negatives of it since i got hold of it for few days
- the incredibly annoying physical home button
- the horrible feel of the back side with its greasiness
- it simply has zero class compared to the look and feel of the HOX, it also feels bulkier in hand
- those pen-tile pixels
- the entire goofy style of the water drop sound and ring tones
- Touchwiz simply ruins ICS and doesn't give something in return unlike sense
- games not as impressive as our THD babies, ripetide was nothing compared to ours in terms of effects n speed (60fps on HOX)
- yes it has no lag on the launcher but it has its own kind of lags
what i liked
- the brushed fake metal material around the frame of the blue version is not bad actually, good enough to foul you
- the bigger proportion of the screen
- brute performance and gaming for non optimized like the stupid Gameloft catalog
- screen on times are better
and thats it for me, i rushed back to my 60fps Shadowgun THD + super dense SLC3 and instantly felt better
conclusion i didn't miss in it, in fact i wish my wife carries so i can enjoy its good side but never can replace my turbo charged beast, also conlcusion the SGS3 is a simpler out of box experience but the HOX with little modding effort shines
I had a SGS3 all last week and sold it on Saturday . It was quick but it felt like a plastic toy ,far to light and not nice to hold and the screen isn't as good as my One X.
It will suit some people but no way I'd give up the solid feel of my One X in my hand for it
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- the incredibly annoying physical home button
- the horrible feel of the back side with its greasiness
- no class compared to HOX also feels bigger in hand
- those pen-tile pixels
- the entire goofy style of the water drop sound and ring tones
- Touchwiz simply ruins ICS and doesn't give something in return unlike sense
- games not as impressive as our THD babies, ripetide was nothing compared to ours in terms of effects n speed (60fps on HOX)
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Your first three points are subjective. I find that it feels better in the hand than the One X, as do some other reviewers.
As I stated, the One X has a better screen, but people blow the pentile thing way out of proportion. I also don't agree that Touchwiz ruins everything. It does add some functionality with respect to contacts, smartdialer, etc. and arguably makes the interface more user-friendly for novice (or previous iPhone) users.
I don't play games on my phone. It's simply not a priority for me. I have an iPad for that. Tegra 3 games are nice, but I suspect the Tegra 3 will get left behind much as the Tegra 2 did.
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From general rules which is a sticky.
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Not that I'm surprised, as there are way too many rules for everything, but that's a ridiculous one. A post like this would not reach the target audience in Android general. It's much more relevant to current owners of either phone.
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Your first three points are subjective. I find that it feels better in the hand than the One X, as do some other reviewers.
As I stated, the One X has a better screen, but people blow the pentile thing way out of proportion. I also don't agree that Touchwiz ruins everything. It does add some functionality with respect to contacts, smartdialer, etc. and arguably makes the interface more user-friendly for novice (or previous iPhone) users.
I don't play games on my phone. It's simply not a priority for me. I have an iPad for that. Tegra 3 games are nice, but I suspect the Tegra 3 will get left behind much as the Tegra 2 did.
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many of your points and the fact you don't play games is also subjective
i thought you are innocently posting to tell us your feedback
and this is my feedback
why are you arguing again?
@Op, it's hard to find the correct section isn't?
@Moderators,
Can you please move another anoying thread to general section?
Thanks you very much!
hamdir said:
i thought you are innocently posting to tell us your feedback
and this is my feedback
why are you arguing again?
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It's called a discussion. Not every conversation is an argument just because both parties don't agree.
Laurentius26 said:
[sarcasm]@Op, it's hard to find the correct section isn't?[/sarcasm]
@Moderators,
Can you please move another anoying thread to general section?
Thanks you very much!
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Troll much? Seriously, get a life.
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It's called a discussion. Not every conversation is an argument just because both parties don't agree.
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bottom line you post is in the wrong section
how can this be constructive thread if its meant to convince people to move to S3 in the HOX section
anyway its closing soon
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Your first three points are subjective. I find that it feels better in the hand than the One X, as do some other reviewers.
As I stated, the One X has a better screen, but people blow the pentile thing way out of proportion. I also don't agree that Touchwiz ruins everything. It does add some functionality with respect to contacts, smartdialer, etc. and arguably makes the interface more user-friendly for novice (or previous iPhone) users.
I don't play games on my phone. It's simply not a priority for me. I have an iPad for that. Tegra 3 games are nice, but I suspect the Tegra 3 will get left behind much as the Tegra 2 did.
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A few points you make there actually make sense to me now having the iPad and I take it you had an iPhone? .The SGS3 actually does feel like an Apple product it's the first thing that went through my head when I unboxed it .
One X to me feels a lot more solid and just a better build.
But I do hope you get plenty of enjoyment out of it
It's not trolling, wake up and use the correct section.
I've reported this thead.
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Troll much? Seriously, get a life.
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It's not trolling, wake up and use the correct section.
I've reported this thead.
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Great. Now someone just needs to report you for being an asshat.
You would need to read a document the size of War and Peace to try to conform to all of the rules of where and how to post on this forum. If the mods want to move it, then fine. But I can do without your sarcasm and your non-clever quip about it being a "useless thread". If it's not relevant to you, then don't read it.
That's ok, I requested to move this thread but it would be even better to close it as many people opened a thread like this before you.
Use an existing thread I would recommend.
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Great. Now someone just needs to report you for being an asshat.
You would need to read a document the size of War and Peace to try to conform to all of the rules of where and how to post on this forum. If the mods want to move it, then fine. But I can do without your sarcasm and your non-clever quip about it being a "useless thread". If it's not relevant to you, then don't read it.
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That's ok, I requested to move this thread but it would be even better to close it as many people opened a thread like this before you.
Use an existing thread I would recommend.
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Since you seem to take this so personally and don't have anything better to do, I suggest you chill out. I'm sure there's another crusade you can join somewhere.
If this is somehow a duplicate, it isn't the first and won't be the last. Just take a deep breath. It'll be okay.
HTC 10 Review from The Verge hasn't been that good (Horrible Title), however I've never take what the say seriously:
http://www.theverge.com/2016/4/14/11429858/htc-10-review
BGR Loves the device:
http://bgr.com/2016/04/14/htc-10-review/
TechnoBuffalo says it's the best HTC phone ever:
http://www.technobuffalo.com/reviews/htc-10-review/
ArsTechnica say's the best Android Flagship of 2016
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/04/htc-10-review-htc-builds-the-best-android-flagship-of-2016/
Android Authority says it's the comeback they've been waiting for.
http://www.androidauthority.com/htc-10-review-686507/
Pocket Now says Welcome Back HTC:
http://pocketnow.com/2016/04/14/htc-10-review#!prettyPhoto
Trusted Reviews gave the device a 4.5 out of 5
http://www.trustedreviews.com/htc-10-review
Mobile Tech Review says the 10— it hits all the sweet spots with none of the gotchas of other recent M series phones.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwVDaLrC7qA1
Trendfeed says - We review the HTC 10, which may well be the Best Smartphone of 2016
http://www.trendnfeed.com/2016/04/22...medium=twitter
Whathifi says - The 10 is a superb smartphone which marks a return to form for HTC
http://www.whathifi.com/htc/10/review
GSMArena says HTC's greatest hit
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_10-review-1434.php
How is great not good enough?
I'd love a great device. Some reviewers are just downright picky, but that one made no sense.
Sammae7 said:
How is great not good enough?
I'd love a great device. Some reviewers are just downright picky, but that one made no sense.
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I was talking to my coworker about the same thing the title makes no sense, that why I highlighted it in my first post.
The author commented in his review and said something like TLDR: This phone would have been great in 2014 but not in 2016
The Verge is weird.
Best Reviews I've Found
The best I've found are here:
http://bgr.com/2016/04/14/htc-10-review/
and here, where they call it "the most powerful smartphone in the world":
http://bgr.com/2016/04/14/htc-10-benchmark-test-results-comparison/
The BGR.com website is normally a group of very big iPhone fanboys.
Just updated the original post, according to ArsTechnica, the HTC 10 is the BEST Android Flagship of 2016, impressive
i don't think the verge "review" should be considered a review, it was so obvious they didn't want to say anything good about it that they just made stuff up as they went, they barely talked about the phone and what it has, that was the most shameless attempt i have seen of attempting to put down a device i have ever seen, I used to like their stuff that but after this...
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i don't think the verge "review" should be considered a review, it was so obvious they didn't want to say anything good about it that they just made stuff up as they went, they barely talked about the phone and what it has, that was the most shameless attempt i have seen of attempting to put down a device i have ever seen, I used to like their stuff that but after this...
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Also don't forget that the guy that created The Verge was considered the largest Apple fanboy (Joshua Topolsky) so they still have those Apple roots even though he's not associated with the site anymore. But I do agree, the one thing that they said in the review that was a real head scratcher was when they made the statement that the camera was slow, every single other reviewer claimed the opposite, it's hard to believe them in that regard.
Gizmodo thinks it's pretty awesome, though they have some harsh (but fair, IMO) words for HTC.
Seriously, HTC’s software is the best it’s ever been. Fans of stock Android will be very happy.
Battery life is stellar with guaranteed one-day battery life, and two days no problem with light to medium use.
Audio is now best in class, while the camera is no longer the worst in class
HTC’s craven desire to win over consumers means consumers actually win for a change.
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http://gizmodo.com/htc-10-review-a-last-grasp-at-greatness-1770943344
The Verge reviews are pretty bad...
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Android Authority's review is up:
http://www.androidauthority.com/htc-10-review-686507/
Since when do we care about reviews from Verge or phonearena?
And Pocket Now:
http://www.pocketnow.com/2016/04/14/htc-10-review
The verge gave an it 8.0 which is a very good score. I don't see how it was a bad review. He compared it to the competition and said for its price point it doesn't stand out , that doesn't mean its a bad phone. From what I understand, If this phone doesn't get a 9.5 or a 10 its automatically a bad review lol I smell fanboyism
Im actually a fanboy for sure. Ordered on launch day. Have owned M7-9.
The comment on the Verge review which states that this phone would have been great in 2014 is what pisses me off.
Also I am typing this from my S7 Edge, which ill be giving away once the 10 gets here.
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I don't think people are complaining about the review so much as the ridiculous title that makes no sense.
There's no doubt that from the get go the verge writer wanted to hate this phone which honestly doesn't add much to the credibility of this website.
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http://www.engadget.com/2016/04/14/htc-10-review/
Another review that shows how wrong the verge is.
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malek777 said:
The verge gave an it 8.0 which is a very good score. I don't see how it was a bad review. He compared it to the competition and said for its price point it doesn't stand out , that doesn't mean its a bad phone. From what I understand, If this phone doesn't get a 9.5 or a 10 its automatically a bad review lol I smell fanboyism
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he starts of by saying that the phone doesn't have any gimmicks as if that was a bad thing, and keeps speak down on it, in reviews you've to be impartial and know what you're talking about, he fails at everything a reviewer should be... watch the video again it's crap, and i never owned or own an HTC
WSJ has a "meh" review:
http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2016/04/14/htc-10-review-the-price-isnt-right/Z
ZD Net has a good review but camera is weak:
http://www.zdnet.com/product/htc-10/
Time has a good review with reservations and the camera issue again:
http://time.com/4292673/htc-10-review/
I am starting to see more and more reviews mentioning that camera is very good but doesn't hold up to the S7, despite the DXO rating. Hmmm. I think DXO is suspect as it seems they rushed out review just as it went on sale simultaneously and many reviews are quoting them. Sounds like someone "influenced" somebody and not really impartial. IMHO.
HTC 10: A Quick Look At Battery Life & Storage Performance
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10252/htc-10-battery-storage-results
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HTC 10: A Quick Look At Battery Life & Storage Performance
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10252/htc-10-battery-storage-results
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That read speed is quite low tbh. It might effect the overall phone performance :/