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[Q] y to root?

just wondering, i c there is tons of stuff on this but can someone tell me y i would want to root? besides the tether hack not to sure if there is any gain?
Thanks!

Think of root as administrator level access. Just as on your computer, some things cannot be done without this granted. Backup at an application level is another example.

Or the more you wanna get into it, you can intall custom roms which are tweaked and made up to perform faster. Also can install kernel and overclock your phone. A lot of stuff you can do with your phone rooted. You should head to the developers forum on xda for the Epic and read some of that stuff
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You can freeze services and or apps that you want to keep but don't want auto starting on their own (using your battery and memory). You can wipe deeper caches when having other problems, and you can force the phone to roam when you want it to. You can also remove bloatware apps that you normally can't remove without root access. When you find an app you want to use that says "requires root access" you must root to use the app.

A big thing for me is to remove all the sprint bloatware. This keeps the processes from running completely and in theory, saves battery life.
From there, you can do full backups and what not.

[Q] Sprint Note 2 rootted stock now an update nag

Device Info: Sprint Galaxy Note 2 Running rooted stock Android 4.4.2. (chainfire auto root using odin)
Wifi only unit. I have no sprint contract purchased it used (I'm new to customizing android- I have flashed an old palm pda, but only via guidance)
Situation: Rooted the unit and have customized it as mine
1. No custom backup and would like to do that
2. Do not like all the bloatware apps
3. Now a system update has been downloaded asking to install (I've not okayed it)
So please help me with each of these
1. Please point me in the direction of best way to take a backup of existing rom ( I do have philz downloaded, but I'm not sure about how to ?
2. Would that deal with the persistent update request? Would it be good to update?
3. and then the bloatware removal, should I use an app that removes system apps? ( I have titanium, but I'm not good at knowing which apps to touch and not to touch) Thanks in advance and no I'm not in a hurry as yet.

Hi,
I will have your thread moved to your device section so the experts who own your device can help you.
Good luck!

Point to links please
If someone doesn't want to tackle this whole question I'd just appreciate links on how to step by step. I'd appreciate any help at all, I'm just a bit fearful of bricking the device, but if the instructions are clear I can definitely do this.
The first is issue is backup that is my priority at the moment. The second is whether to install the update or not and how to get rid of the nag. thanks

Not sure about backing up the ROM itself... but what I do is just back up the apps with Titanium and then re-load the apps (or just data) when I have to re-install my ROM like I did a couple of weeks ago. Prior to the Note II, I had an HTC Hero (stop laughing) and would do nandroids for that device. Don't know that you need that for Samsung devices, but somebody may be better to explain than I am.
ETA: here's an article on creating a nandroid, FWIW
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/what-is-a-nandroid-backup-and-how-exactly-does-it-work/
If you are rooted, I don't know that the persistent update will actually apply/install. I'm on Classic Stock 4.4.2 and I also had the same nag. Here's a link on how to disable the update nag. This is what I did, as my phone would not apply the update so I just disabled the persistent reminder using the steps below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2442207
With respect to removing system apps, not sure I can offer much direction other than to suggest removing obvious apps (maybe like the Sprint Zone app) and then just doing a search on each app that looks like you can/want to delete or uninstall. Probably a bit time consuming, however, I am not aware of a "bloatware list" or anything which outlines safe-to-remove apps.

Much appreciated Lenny
When I did the root, I didn't really want a custom rom, just stock with root. Now that I've used titanium backup and have removed the install update nag- I'm set for a while!

lost in cyberspace said:
Much appreciated Lenny
When I did the root, I didn't really want a custom rom, just stock with root. Now that I've used titanium backup and have removed the install update nag- I'm set for a while!
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You might also look at adding a free version of BusyBox (I use stericson's, and jrummy also has one out there).
Also might want to look at an install of AdAway, which you'll need to install manually (not available from the Play Store). You don't have to install the whole F-Droid package, you can download only the AdAway apk if you want.
https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdid=org.adaway
One last piece of info, you may want to turn off automatic updating for apps, as the SuperSU app can have problems after an update and you might have to re-root your phone. Here's what I ran into.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=58955076&postcount=10

lennykravitz2004 said:
You might also look at adding a free version of BusyBox (I use stericson's, and jrummy also has one out there).
Also might want to look at an install of AdAway, which you'll need to install manually (not available from the Play Store). You don't have to install the whole F-Droid package, you can download only the AdAway apk if you want.
https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdid=org.adaway
One last piece of info, you may want to turn off automatic updating for apps, as the SuperSU app can have problems after an update and you might have to re-root your phone. Here's what I ran into.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=58955076&postcount=10
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Thank you! I've side loaded adb adblock is adaway better? I use App Ops to turn off specific things within each app such as location finding, I like MW apps manager to add more apps to the multiwindow feature., and I've turned off most apps auto update, but some apps I've left auto update. I've just turned off auto update on super user -- even though, I've not yet experienced any major issues as yet.

lost in cyberspace said:
Thank you! I've side loaded adb adblock is adaway better? I use App Ops to turn off specific things within each app such as location finding, I like MW apps manager to add more apps to the multiwindow feature., and I've turned off most apps auto update, but some apps I've left auto update. I've just turned off auto update on super user -- even though, I've not yet experienced any major issues as yet.
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Don't know if adb adblock is better - I've never used it. Didn't see you mention a couple of these things when you said you were "all set for awhile", so I was just trying to offer a few other things to consider and look into. Sounds like you're already on the ball though!
Personally, I'm happy with stock. Big reason for me to root was getting rid of ads. I've tried some of the other ROMs but I've always come back to the stock look and feel. I've had the device since about 1 week after it came out in Fall 2012. Of course, I am also on my third one since I totaled two other ones. I absolutely love it, and am in no hurry to upgrade (if possible). Hope you enjoy it as I have... lots of good stuff from devs here!

New HTC desire 816

So im new to all this. My last "smart" phone was pretty basic and couldnt do much. I went through the root process thinking I would like it, but so far it seems like I wasted my time. I thought I would be able to uninstall useless apps and install apps right to the SD card. So far neither have worked. I was wondering if anyone could help and explain in plain simple english what I may be doing wrong or is this phone basically useless to root and just have to live with it as is? I tried titanium backup - all that did was take up almost all my remaining phone space, change my keyboard and switch my wallpaper back to default. I tried System app remover to remove unwanted bloatware - no change. I tried ROM toolbox lite to install apps to SD, I checked that box in the app for it to do this- downloaded an app to see if it worked and nope. So any suggestions on anything useful root does for this phone? So far it seems like i wasted my time on this.

Andy1058 said:
So im new to all this. My last "smart" phone was pretty basic and couldnt do much. I went through the root process thinking I would like it, but so far it seems like I wasted my time. I thought I would be able to uninstall useless apps and install apps right to the SD card. So far neither have worked. I was wondering if anyone could help and explain in plain simple english what I may be doing wrong or is this phone basically useless to root and just have to live with it as is? I tried titanium backup - all that did was take up almost all my remaining phone space, change my keyboard and switch my wallpaper back to default. I tried System app remover to remove unwanted bloatware - no change. I tried ROM toolbox lite to install apps to SD, I checked that box in the app for it to do this- downloaded an app to see if it worked and nope. So any suggestions on anything useful root does for this phone? So far it seems like i wasted my time on this.
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Heya Andy, welcome. you have a great phone there, and It just needs a little patience.
-you can remove any unwanted system app using whatever Root Explorer/manager you Wish, including ES file explorer!
-you can install/move apps to SD. the best way to do that would be Link2SD. you'll need to look around and read to get acquainted with it, but it's a great little app and it will let you install hundreds of apps, all on SD.
-to make the best use of your Root, you should install this or something similar.
-One of the best things you can do with root, is to install Xposed framework and use modules to customize your phone. some of my favorites are: Sense6 Toolbox, App Ops, Network speed indicator, Xsense, Bootmanager,,,. they give you great control on many aspects of the phone and add some very useful functionality.

K.I.S.S. Root and debloat vs PackageDisabler Pro (Nougat)

Ok the title says it best.
I would like some opinions about which route you took and why.
I personally have rooted and then noticed lag every time.
After debloating it got a little better and almost near stock speed.
Following debloat I started having issues with ghost apps and apps really disappearing and not working.
I've also tried rooting, debloat, and then unrooting.
results were not much better.
Finally I'm going to try just debloating with package disabler pro and Beast mode (disabling animations etc) - No ROOT
I'll post my results but let me add I've never used a device that was not rooted so this is a nerve racking decision.

Not much activity going on with this model. Wish I would have bought something more popular. Lol.

Active magisk? + Bootloader
jjta said:
Ok the title says it best.
I would like some opinions about which route you took and why.
I personally have rooted and then noticed lag every time.
After debloating it got a little better and almost near stock speed.
Following debloat I started having issues with ghost apps and apps really disappearing and not working.
I've also tried rooting, debloat, and then unrooting.
results were not much better.
Finally I'm going to try just debloating with package disabler pro and Beast mode (disabling animations etc) - No ROOT
I'll post my results but let me add I've never used a device that was not rooted so this is a nerve racking decision.
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Hi, im new to the forum, have an s7 active but i cant seem to unlock the bootloader, or find a way to install magisk mgr so i can hide my root and still play pokemon go ... please help

king2289 said:
Hi, im new to the forum, have an s7 active but i cant seem to unlock the bootloader, or find a way to install magisk mgr so i can hide my root and still play pokemon go ... please help
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Sad to say it one of those AT&T things where they lock them and its almost impossible to unlock. Don't think its been done for this phone yet! Try to see if theirs a way to install magisk mgr using flashfire otherwise no root or no pokemon!

thanks
jjta said:
Sad to say it one of those AT&T things where they lock them and its almost impossible to unlock. Don't think its been done for this phone yet! Try to see if theirs a way to install magisk mgr using flashfire otherwise no root or no pokemon!
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thank you

jjta said:
Sad to say it one of those AT&T things where they lock them and its almost impossible to unlock. Don't think its been done for this phone yet! Try to see if theirs a way to install magisk mgr using flashfire otherwise no root or no pokemon!
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I cant install flashfire lol im not rooted (cries)

jjta said:
Ok the title says it best.
I would like some opinions about which route you took and why.
I personally have rooted and then noticed lag every time.
After debloating it got a little better and almost near stock speed.
Following debloat I started having issues with ghost apps and apps really disappearing and not working.
I've also tried rooting, debloat, and then unrooting.
results were not much better.
Finally I'm going to try just debloating with package disabler pro and Beast mode (disabling animations etc) - No ROOT
I'll post my results but let me add I've never used a device that was not rooted so this is a nerve racking decision.
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See this old post:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74551312&postcount=815

I'm wondering if its the newest update thats causing the battery to act like trash...

Question What's the perks? Rooting

Last time I rooted my phone it was like the OnePlus 6, but now days these phones are great but I'd still like to root this phone, but I'm unsure of the perks now, back then it just to be xposed modules but xposed was dangerous to use if you installed the wrong thing lol
, So, what's the pros and cons??
Thanks

Ad blocker, certain tasker tasks, franko kernel manager, greenify, root file access, enable call recording, ability to run root terminal commands when needed, for backup apps, etc

kevinireland11 said:
Last time I rooted my phone it was like the OnePlus 6, but now days these phones are great but I'd still like to root this phone, but I'm unsure of the perks now, back then it just to be xposed modules but xposed was dangerous to use if you installed the wrong thing lol
, So, what's the pros and cons??
Thanks
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[MOD][Xposed+Magisk][13 Compatible] AOSP Mods - System modifications for AOSP-based Android 12+
^ This mod alone is worth it. Otherwise, I like being able to backup app data for apps that don't support Google's built-in cloud backup, using Swift Backup. There are other mods I like as well, like [APP][ROOT][11+][19/07] Classic Power Menu - Power Menu Replacement w/ Wallet, Controls on Android 11, 12, 13+, cutom kernels...

I will root my phone's for as long as it's possible. Unlocking the bootloader alone has so many benefits. It's a lot easier to fix a messed up phone , and why not root?
Privileged access to the entire device? Yes please.
I use a lot of non root features on my phone but having system access with root makes the experience so much more fun if one knows what they're doing

My list that I send anyone who asks this question:
- Use ACCA to extend battery life
- Install the more efficient YouTube Vanced/ReVanced root version and system wide adblockers like AdAway
- Use Insular or Shelter to create 2nd profile without having to manually enter adb commands
- Make full backups without having to use google and even if apps doesn't allow it
- Enable 3rd party stores like F-Droid and Aurora to install apps in the background
- Change build.prop to enable features your manufacturer may has disabled (if not using a custom ROM)
- Access and modify system files (inspect/debug things and change settings that maybe arent visible in the ui)
- Access the portected data of apps (extract keys and other information apps don't want to willingly give or maybe to cheat in games that save their scores locally)
- It's just cool to be god over your system

Being able to doze battery guzzling system apps (gms) and ANY apps u see fit! Have better control of battery resources and charging as well with AccA. And yeah...AOSP Mods module rocks!