Hi everyone. I've had my HTC One M7 TMo since it launched last year, and am considering upgrading to the M8. One big thing for me is I need WiFi Calling when visiting family in a very rural area, which seems to limit my ROM choices. I've briefly read that people are converting their TMo M8 to GPE, which opens them up to more ROMs, yes? Is there anyone working on (or have already built) a WiFi Calling app/package that can work with third party ROMs that don't have it built it?
If not, I'll probably be making the switch to Verizon or ATT, as much as I really don't want to.
Any advice?
I would love to see a GPE rom with WiFi calling enabled but I think it requires sense in order to work so we would probably never see the 2 merged.
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I would love to see a GPE rom with WiFi calling enabled but I think it requires sense in order to work so we would probably never see the 2 merged.
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Pardon my ignorance, but why would Sense be required? Doesn't TMo have WiFi calling on all (or at least, most) of their phones? I.e., Samsung phones that don't have Sense, etc?
I'm running SkyDragon v16.1 on my current HTC One M7, which has WiFi Calling, but it also has Sense 5.5.
You are correct they do have it on other phones like Samsung and and LG phones. T-Mobile builds it into the current operating system and makes it dependent upon that system. T-Mobile has there version of the Nexus 5 that does not have WiFi calling in it. For as long as that feature has been out I have not seen it on any ROM that's a pure android experience. For as talented as the developers are here on XDA I have not seen them put that feature into a pure android ROM. I'm with you I would love to see this happen. What version of skydragon are you running the sense version or the GPE one?
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What version of skydragon are you running the sense version or the GPE one?
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I'm running the Sense 5.5 version.
have been for almost a year now, and while it works great, I miss PA based ROMs (i.e., PAC-man). Sometimes I wish I never discovered WiFi Calling or switched to TMo, haha. I guess the devs with the knowledge of how to bundle WiFi Calling into a GPE rom are the same devs who live in an area of great coverage and never used, or need to use WiFi calling. As much as I like TMo, I'll probably be switch to Verizon for the better coverage in rural eastern KY.
Unfortunately no matter how fast a phone may be, you're limited to the network you bought it on. I also wish wifi calling was posted to AOSP, but alas it probably will never happen.
Funny thing even though I went over my data on T-Mobile, the limited speeds are still faster than what I would get on sprint 3g
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For as long as that feature has been out I have not seen it on any ROM that's a pure android experience.
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This is not quite correct. Ever since the release of the 3.0+ version kernel WiFi calling has been built directly into the operating system. Prior to this it was apk based using Kinetogan.apk to run it. This was how it operated on my myTouch 4G when I ran AOSP on it.
When I was using my Galaxy S3 it was rumored to have been completed in another forum, but the method of implementation was never released.
I'm pretty sure there's still a humongous bounty out for that feature to be implemented.
With the onset of the Xperia Z3 hopefully being announced next week, I believe I will hold out on TMo for the Z3, and live with a non-pure ROM so I can have my WiFi Calling. Sucks, but there are still great non-pure ROMs, and I'm sure there will be for the Z3 as well.
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I have TERRIBLE Wifi signal strength on any AOSP ROMs (yes, I tested and radios, etc. are up to date). Anyone have this same issue and have a fix?? Sense ROMs are fine for me. I really want to use a few of these, but can't get over the terrible Wifi service.
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I have TERRIBLE Wifi signal strength on any AOSP ROMs (yes, I tested and radios, etc. are up to date). Anyone have this same issue and have a fix?? Sense ROMs are fine for me. I really want to use a few of these, but can't get over the terrible Wifi service.
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I've been saying this for ages, hands down the aosp wifi sig can't compare to a sense rom. I believe the devs all know this and been aware. Question is, how come no one has done anything about it :-/. One of the main reasons I'm back to sense.
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Don't hate the devs they are the reason there is aosp roms
But I have not noticed this yet will try this
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Don't hate the devs they are the reason there is aosp roms
But I have not noticed this yet will try this
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Definitely not having on ANY devs if that's what it sounded like I apologize. But I believe many are aware of the ****ty wifi drivers with aosp roms that's all I was saying.
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I have this problem as well. My AOSP will show 2 bars when three is full, even when one foot away from my router. Same goes for cell signal. If i am sitting at home i get about 2 bars on Sense, 0 on AOSP. And its not the "AOSP tells you the true signal" bs. When on sense it operates just fine. Restore an AOSP rom, no signal, no calls. It sucks, but i bear with it cuz i love that CM7. With that said, I sure later versions will be even better, and will address the issue. It seems pretty widespread.
Bump... same issue here.
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I have TERRIBLE Wifi signal strength on any AOSP ROMs (yes, I tested and radios, etc. are up to date). Anyone have this same issue and have a fix?? Sense ROMs are fine for me. I really want to use a few of these, but can't get over the terrible Wifi service.
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I've noticed the same thing. I'm assuming the way Sense ROMS are woven into the framework of the phone is the reason for the difference in signal strength. I love AOSP roms but the signal quirks are just too much for me at this point to make the switch permanent.
Okay, so I'm sick of waiting for AT&T's "Official" release of Jelly Bean, therefore I've decided to flash a JB ROM. Having flashed a couple of times before (on my Cappy), I know to read a LOT beforehand. Now that that's done, I have narrowed my ROM choices to DrewGaren's Milestone 7 and Serenity 1.2. My question: For those of you who has tried both of these ROMS, which is more stable, and which do you prefer and why?
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Okay, so I'm sick of waiting for AT&T's "Official" release of Jelly Bean, therefore I've decided to flash a JB ROM. Having flashed a couple of times before (on my Cappy), I know to read a LOT beforehand. Now that that's done, I have narrowed my ROM choices to DrewGaren's Milestone 7 and Serenity 1.2. My question: For those of you who has tried both of these ROMS, which is more stable, and which do you prefer and why?
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Def Serenity 1.2
I've tried them both and actually prefer JellyBean747 M7 to Serenity. It seems closer to stock for me, and a little cleaner. That said, I did make a few changes to get it working the way I wanted. In addition to installing the QuickFix, I installed KT's kernel and used the TMO RIL files to fix the international calling thing.
I do see that Drew has Serenity 1.3 builds for TMO and Sprint. I might try 1.3 on my AT&T S3 when he releases it. Of course, I'm also hoping for JB747 1.0 in the near future, too.
Both are great ROMs. Make a Nandroid and try them out. I've flashed three or four different ROMs since trying JB747, but I keep going back. :good:
i've tried both. and i will give my props to Serenity.
and the main reason is that the ROM is based off AT&T. whereas JB747 is based off Sprint. i have the family shared plan, where i can "officially" tether, and i couldn't do that in JB747, because it was thinking Sprint when i'm on AT&T.
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i've tried both. and i will give my props to Serenity.
and the main reason is that the ROM is based off AT&T. whereas JB747 is based off Sprint. i have the family shared plan, where i can "officially" tether, and i couldn't do that in JB747, because it was thinking Sprint when i'm on AT&T.
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Agreed, but here's my concern (probably should have expressed this in my initial post, lol). Although Serenity 1.2 is based off of AT&T, it is a port from a different PHONE than the SGS3. And, the JB747 is stock-based on a different CARRIER, like you said. So, what's more important as far as stabilty is concerned, a ROM based on a different phone or stock-based on a different carrier?
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Agreed, but here's my concern (probably should have expressed this in my initial post, lol). Although Serenity 1.2 is based off of AT&T, it is a port from a different PHONE than the SGS3. And, the JB747 is stock-based on a different CARRIER, like you said. So, what's more important as far as stabilty is concerned, a ROM based on a different phone or stock-based on a different carrier?
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I've come to the same spot you have and am interested in which of these two retain the most stock features.
in the case of TouchWiz, there's not too much of any differences between the 2, except these that i have noticed...
* the S Pen settings. can't really do anything with this.
* hover mode (or whatever it's called). where you can have a window of the stock internet browser (not Chrome or anything else) while another app is full screen. same for videos.
and that's all i really noticed. i really like the window browser feature. i don't know how to trigger it all the time. for example, i'm only able to trigger it if i'm within an (like TweetDeck for example), and i click a link. then that opens a window browser.
I have my Galaxy S3 and my coworker has an HTC Evo. Both of us have Sprint and yet his phone gets 3 bars of reception whereas mine only gets 1, 2 if I'm very, very lucky.
AFAIK, he's running stock, unrooted and I'm running rooted with latest LiquidSmooth 2.9 with the MD4 modem. No idea what modem he has.
What could be the reason why he's getting better reception? Better antenna build in the Evo?
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I have my Galaxy S3 and my coworker has an HTC Evo. Both of us have Sprint and yet his phone gets 3 bars of reception whereas mine only gets 1, 2 if I'm very, very lucky.
AFAIK, he's running stock, unrooted and I'm running rooted with latest LiquidSmooth 2.9 with the MD4 modem. No idea what modem he has.
What could be the reason why he's getting better reception? Better antenna build in the Evo?
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Some of it has to do with the rom. Some aosp roms show a more accurate bar reading...which is why your's is fewer. I wouldn't really get to worked up over it. They both probably get similar reception and data speeds on 3g
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Some of it has to do with the rom. Some aosp roms show a more accurate bar reading...which is why your's is fewer. I wouldn't really get to worked up over it. They both probably get similar reception and data speeds on 3g
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Actually, my data is absolute sh!te and it's a pain to load nearly anything. I get data transfer speeds in the very low kbps.
lvpre said:
Some of it has to do with the rom. Some aosp roms show a more accurate bar reading...which is why your's is fewer. I wouldn't really get to worked up over it. They both probably get similar reception and data speeds on 3g
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I'm going to agree Ivpre. I would not get worked up over it. Unless of course it is necessary for you to have more Bars showing then him :silly: . You do most likely get the same Data Speeds.
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Actually, my data is absolute sh!te and it's a pain to load nearly anything. I get data transfer speeds in the very low kbps.
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I would suggest Updating PRL / Profile. Maybe even trying a different Modem. Not everyone gets great reception on MD4. You may have to experiment to see which works better for you.
If you want to properly know if your device is getting less of a signal you need to flash a TW rom, preferably one which is close to stock update prl and profile. Then check your signal and data speeds compared to your friends. AOSP roms remember are built from leaks, and ported from other devices. There is no true aosp source for the Sprint S3. So there's lots of patches and coding which goes into getting the cdma radios working.
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prboy1969 said:
I'm going to agree Ivpre. I would not get worked up over it. Unless of course it is necessary for you to have more Bars showing then him :silly: . You do most likely get the same Data Speeds.
I would suggest Updating PRL / Profile. Maybe even trying a different Modem. Not everyone gets great reception on MD4. You may have to experiment to see which works better for you.
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We've actually done a Speedtest together and his had a higher data rate than mine. I've had different modem with the earlier builds of Liquid Smooth as well, but still low reception. I've also updated my PRL/Profile in the past in hopes that it'll help but sadly no.
I'll look into having a TouchWiz ROM versus this one. I just love how LiquidSmooth is, so hoping I can find a TW ROM that's just as fun.
EDIT: I don't even know how to find a TouchWiz ROM. I figured it would say "TW" along the subject line, the same way AOSP does, but alas I cannot find that. I have heard of Goodness, is that a TW ROM?
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I have my Galaxy S3 and my coworker has an HTC Evo. Both of us have Sprint and yet his phone gets 3 bars of reception whereas mine only gets 1, 2 if I'm very, very lucky.
AFAIK, he's running stock, unrooted and I'm running rooted with latest LiquidSmooth 2.9 with the MD4 modem. No idea what modem he has.
What could be the reason why he's getting better reception? Better antenna build in the Evo?
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Some devices just get better reception than others. Better internal antennae.
My mom's old photon always got better reception than my 3d & s3
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I'll look into having a TouchWiz ROM versus this one. I just love how LiquidSmooth is, so hoping I can find a TW ROM that's just as fun.
EDIT: I don't even know how to find a TouchWiz ROM. I figured it would say "TW" along the subject line, the same way AOSP does, but alas I cannot find that. I have heard of Goodness, is that a TW ROM?
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Most likely cause all the roms which do not say AOSP or CM or AOKP or something like that are TW roms. I would recommend MOAR or TPR The People's Rom.
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OP,
Unless you're being very careful with your comparisons and using quantitative, and not qualitative, data like db, seeing more "signal bars" means nothing.
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You must also keep in mind, that even after you switch to a TW Rom. There is no guarantee that you will see better reception. IE more bars. There are quite a few variables involved. What you should concentrate on is making your device the best it can be for you. As CNexus stated. When comparing you have to compare Apples to Apples, and Oranges to Oranges.
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Besides the obvious T-mobile framework specific wifi calling and the like, I'm wondering if without CSCs, modems, anything that might be different from an international i9505 ROM are going to negatively detract from my experience.
I ask because at this point it looks like I am going to have to use a touchwiz-based ROM whether I like it or not thanks to a dock feature that doesn't exist in AOSP that I need, but I want the smallest, cleanest, lightest one possible. Just wanted to make sure that by going to a i9505 I'm not gimping my reception, or something like that.
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Besides the obvious T-mobile framework specific wifi calling and the like, I'm wondering if without CSCs, modems, anything that might be different from an international i9505 ROM are going to negatively detract from my experience.
I ask because at this point it looks like I am going to have to use a touchwiz-based ROM whether I like it or not thanks to a dock feature that doesn't exist in AOSP that I need, but I want the smallest, cleanest, lightest one possible. Just wanted to make sure that by going to a i9505 I'm not gimping my reception, or something like that.
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All you need to remember is after you flash any i9505 rom, flash a TMO kernel before boot, and yes, the international roms have a few more features than the US roms. I have been running them since the S4 came out.
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RC Cola said:
Besides the obvious T-mobile framework specific wifi calling and the like, I'm wondering if without CSCs, modems, anything that might be different from an international i9505 ROM are going to negatively detract from my experience.
I ask because at this point it looks like I am going to have to use a touchwiz-based ROM whether I like it or not thanks to a dock feature that doesn't exist in AOSP that I need, but I want the smallest, cleanest, lightest one possible. Just wanted to make sure that by going to a i9505 I'm not gimping my reception, or something like that.
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No, to echo theaxeman, using the international roms will not detract from your experience. I have found them to be as good as the native t mobile roms. You already know you will not have wifi calling. Otherwise, there are no issues with data or calling. I use google voice as a backup (using the spare phone app), so I still have wifi calling, though not using my native number.
I've been thinking about building an S7 ROM, and I've done some work on it, but right now, my interest is more focused in development for the 6P. However, if there's enough interest for a stock based ROM for the active, I'll go ahead and start working on it.
My basic idea was to try to totally port an AOSP/Stock Google ROM (most likely from the 6p) over to the active. There's no trace of anything Samsung in the ROM, and later on I could add some more useful features. I also plan on adding about as many performance/battery tweaks as I can find. Unfortunately, the kernel can't be modified, I've already tested some stuff with that, and nothing worked. But I would intend on making a non-root version with the stock kernel, and a root version with the eng kernel.
The goal of this rom is to try to provide a totally stock experience on the front end (because the kernel can't be modified), for those who hate Samsung and/or Samsung's UI. The stock experience should result in much better performance and battery life, and I will incorporate as many tweaks as I can to improve it even more.
So vote on the poll/leave a reply if you would like to see this for the active, and if you have any features you would want to see in a rom, reply saying what you would like.
Yeah, that would be awesome if possible. I've been holding off on rooting but something like this would have me rooting my phone immediately.
I would love for a ROM like that to be made for my Active. I actually hate using TouchWiz. I find myself using my old S5 when I am at home.
Phone would be so awesome if it ran on AOSP OS (aside from the green and pink vertical line I now have on my phone from no where, thanks Samsung).
you can kinda get this already with my Ufirm mod .. select Playstore debloat, and it strips everything out ..
so you need to select the pixel launcher, or nova launcher, along with the google apps like messenger, calendar/clock etc other wise you wont have nowt to use !
but thats just stripping down the original Rom to suit ..
so you thinking of a Rom made from a aosp base ? ..
also, as im posting here, and you been digging around in the kernel ..
are you able to tell if the kernel is blocking Gear VR ??? been trying to find out whats blocking detection of it ... as there seems to be NO logcat action atall .. so im thinking kernel ?
Yes I would love that
OMG ! I can't wait for a stock ROM for S7 Active.
I don't care for root but for battery and stock ROM on top of original Kernel would be like best of both worlds.
I would also like to see multiple CSC's integrated from which user can choose his country specific network and volte settings.
I am from India, and couldn't get volte on any networks here.
I am rooting for your efforts and if you need any early tester I would love to help.
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OMG ! I can't wait for a stock ROM for S7 Active.
I don't care for root but for battery and stock ROM on top of original Kernel would be like best of both worlds.
I would also like to see multiple CSC's integrated from which user can choose his country specific network and volte settings.
I am from India, and couldn't get volte on any networks here.
I am rooting for your efforts and if you need any early tester I would love to help.
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No matter what you do VOLTE is will not work on this device in India. Also most AOSP based roms dont support VOLTE at least not for India.
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No matter what you do VOLTE is will not work on this device in India. Also most AOSP based roms dont support VOLTE at least not for India.
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Not even if they insert Indian CSC in there ? Just like @MiniMus integrated tmo spr and vzw in Ufirm_multi.... firmware.
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Not even if they insert Indian CSC in there ? Just like @MiniMus integrated tmo spr and vzw in Ufirm_multi.... firmware.
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No because the volte in India uses a completely different code setup. Each carrier has their own code for it. This is why aosp doesn't support volte for the most part. Even when they get it working it doesn't work on all carriers.
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No because the volte in India uses a completely different code setup. Each carrier has their own code for it. This is why aosp doesn't support volte for the most part. Even when they get it working it doesn't work on all carriers.
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Hmm, quite a conundrum. no issue, even without volte, an AOSP still has it's benefits.
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Hmm, quite a conundrum. no issue, even without volte, an AOSP still has it's benefits.
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For many devices i would agree. Not for Samsung devices and deffently not this device. Not when you consider you lose the use of all the extra sensors and camera quility
I appreciate the offer but I don't think I'd use it. I've never had a good experience with a non-stock ROM (where stock to me means the ROM that came with the phone). Many worked okay, but they tend to be buggy so any benefits are outweighed by the instability or lost features. I'm also used to the Samsung UI by now so don't feel like I'm missing anything (even though I probably am).
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I appreciate the offer but I don't think I'd use it. I've never had a good experience with a non-stock ROM (where stock to me means the ROM that came with the phone). Many worked okay, but they tend to be buggy so any benefits are outweighed by the instability or lost features. I'm also used to the Samsung UI by now so don't feel like I'm missing anything (even though I probably am).
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Yes I am also now pretty used to stock rom. Can flashing stock rom through odin with csc changed to Indian S7 variants' csc image work for Indian volte support ?
I would love to see a new ROM. Hopefully the battery life can be better than stock Samsung TouchWiz. Any ETAs?
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I would love to see a new ROM. Hopefully the battery life can be better than stock Samsung TouchWiz. Any ETAs?
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ETA is as soon as you get it done. But to be honest you can give it up. No bootloader unlock and no root so you will have to deal with stock.
Also never and I mean never ask for an ETA it is rude and on XDA will get you flamed and ignored.
Would it be possible to have stable custom ROMs once Oreo is launched ?
Is this from still a possibility of being made? Just wondering thanks in advance
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Locked bootloader, no custom recoveries or roms. The cell phone companies pay big bux to have them locked and thats it, so dig a hole in a random park and bury the idea and move on.. On LG phones that i had before, AOSP roms really brought the phone to its toes, battery was horrible, overheating, lots and lots of crashes, just a total nightmare. Custom roms are great for tablets where you dont have to worry about cell service unless its a data tab then good luck. Best bet, if the phone can be rooted, freeze, dont delete all the bloatware and its gonna work great.
Cell phones these days are just like cars, they come with useless apps just like some cars come with ugly steering wheels with bunch of buttons that you will never use..
Althou there has been break throughs, and you can now get twrp working with locked bootloaders...
It's not the big win win, and even then, aosp would be much worse than a debloated stock....
I'm am now starting to see light at end of my tunnel, to work more on starting this stuff ported to our phones!