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So I think I might've ****ed up the camera.
It's a hot day (82 F) and I accidentally left th camera on and went for a 20 minute drive. When I came back, there was a pinkish tint on my camera.
So now I'm letting it cool off (took off the back cover, case, put it facing down) in hopes that it'll return to normal. Will it?
Alright, bumping this.
The camera returned to normal, but the next day, it had that weird tinge. Then when I tried to take a picture in low light, the picture came out very grainy. There were dots everywhere and they wouldn't move. Turning to night mode made it worse.
Anyone else having this problem?
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Alright, bumping this.
The camera returned to normal, but the next day, it had that weird tinge. Then when I tried to take a picture in low light, the picture came out very grainy. There were dots everywhere and they wouldn't move. Turning to night mode made it worse.
Anyone else having this problem?
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This is stupid, but worth a try: Try using a different camera app such as Camera MX or any other camera app and see if the tinge is still there.
Hi guys,
I have this phone for 3 weeks, and I think it's a great phone but simply can't stand the fact that when I shoot in low light condictions I got that flash bleeding simply destroing picture quality.
I've used the marker trick, but after a week or so the coloring has gone away and I had to do it againg.
Guys, so frustrating you need to paint a 400£ phone once a week come on....
Will Sony do something about it, or they consider just enough they've said "You're shooting it wrong" like reportend on Talk Sony Mobile forum?
Will they just tact as if nothing has happened and fix this on Z2 Compact?
Always loved Sony for the way they are different form Samsung, Lg etc. but really disappointed this time...
Ever heard of HTC One purple tint issue on camera? I'm pretty sure it's a hundred fold worse than this camera issue and up to now HTC didn't provide any official recall or fix for this problem. AFAIK this issue only shows up on situations where an image would be worthless. I mean who takes picture of a black sky without any objects? Or takes a picture on a empty dark room without any focused subject nor takes a portrait picture of an object which is on a far distance than normal. All I can say is take it easy... Just use the camera normally and you won't encounter the issue. I've done low light pictures from the compact already from night concerts, Selfies on night, low light shots on some friends and stuff and I haven't encountered the light bleed issue. The only way I can reproduce it is if I take a picture of the sky, taking a picture of something a few meters away from me or taking picture on a empty dark room(ghost hunting? ).
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Hi guys,
I have this phone for 3 weeks, and I think it's a great phone but simply can't stand the fact that when I shoot in low light condictions I got that flash bleeding simply destroing picture quality.
I've used the marker trick, but after a week or so the coloring has gone away and I had to do it againg.
Guys, so frustrating you need to paint a 400£ phone once a week come on....
Will Sony do something about it, or they consider just enough they've said "You're shooting it wrong" like reportend on Talk Sony Mobile forum?
Will they just take our money and fix this on Z2 Compact?
Always loved Sony for the way they are different form Samsung, Lg etc. but really disappointed this time...
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Ever heard of HTC One purple tint issue on camera? I'm pretty sure it's a hundred fold worse than this camera issue and up to now HTC didn't provide any official recall or fix for this problem. AFAIK this issue only shows up on situations where an image would be worthless. I mean who takes picture of a black sky without any objects? Or takes a picture on a empty dark room without any focused subject nor takes a portrait picture of an object which is on a far distance than normal. All I can say is take it easy... Just use the camera normally and you won't encounter the issue. I've done low light pictures from the compact already from night concerts, Selfies on night, low light shots on some friends and stuff and I haven't encountered the light bleed issue. The only way I can reproduce it is if I take a picture of the sky, taking a picture of something a few meters away from me or taking picture on a empty dark room(ghost hunting? ).
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My HTC One and also a friend of mine's were replaced because of the purple tint camera issue. That was a hardware issue with the camera itself (or perhaps the assembly process) on the first batch, this unfortunately is 'just' a back problem probably due to the last minute change from glass to plastic and not the camera itself.
we can only speculate. They wont fix it with a fw update. Changing the back panels are the only thing sony could do. are they gona do it? i dont know, and i dont think so
ps: i also had to repaint it, but now its fixed. the paint stays longer on the second or third time that you paint it.
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Ever heard of HTC One purple tint issue on camera? I'm pretty sure it's a hundred fold worse than this camera issue and up to now HTC didn't provide any official recall or fix for this problem. AFAIK this issue only shows up on situations where an image would be worthless. I mean who takes picture of a black sky without any objects? Or takes a picture on a empty dark room without any focused subject nor takes a portrait picture of an object which is on a far distance than normal. All I can say is take it easy... Just use the camera normally and you won't encounter the issue. I've done low light pictures from the compact already from night concerts, Selfies on night, low light shots on some friends and stuff and I haven't encountered the light bleed issue. The only way I can reproduce it is if I take a picture of the sky, taking a picture of something a few meters away from me or taking picture on a empty dark room(ghost hunting? ).
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i disagree. yes this bleed is a lot worse when taking a nightsky pic, or in a complete dark room, wich are things that you probably wont do. but you can also reproduce it under situation that you might come in the future where light is low, but not complete dark.
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we can only speculate. They wont fix it with a fw update. Changing the back panels are the only thing sony could do. are they gona do it? i dont know, and i dont think so
ps: i also had to repaint it, but now its fixed. the paint stays longer on the second or third time that you paint it.
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i disagree. yes this bleed is a lot worse when taking a nightsky pic, or in a complete dark room, wich are things that you probably wont do. but you can also reproduce it under situation that you might come in the future where light is low, but not complete dark.
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Yeah,i had blue tint in 2m my dark room and on potrait of guitar in dark pub so you can reproduce it quite easy(painting did the job after though)
Ok so I guess the color of the phone does indeed matter. Since I really can't reproduce the light bleed easily without that much effort. Also with HTC One issue. For previous owners we know that it took HTC almost a year before recognizing it as a hardware issue and keep denying it for months right? And yeah they didn't provide any recall. They just simply say that it's a software issue and will be fixed on future updates and is only fixing phones that are sent to their service centre.
on HTC One X we have green tint when using flash , but it can be fix by a software http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=36287923&postcount=1
No light bleed here but I have black.
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Ok so I guess the color of the phone does indeed matter. Since I really can't reproduce the light bleed easily without that much effort. Also with HTC One issue. For previous owners we know that it took HTC almost a year before recognizing it as a hardware issue and keep denying it for months right? And yeah they didn't provide any recall. They just simply say that it's a software issue and will be fixed on future updates and is only fixing phones that are sent to their service centre.
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What color is your device mate?
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What color is your device mate?
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Same as @Arup ZR color black.
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No light bleed here but I have black.
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How is that possible that you don't have the light bleed issue? Did you make that photograph as described (i.e. of the sky at night with flash on)? When did you buy your phone (or what is its manufacturing date)?
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Ok so I guess the color of the phone does indeed matter. Since I really can't reproduce the light bleed easily without that much effort. Also with HTC One issue. For previous owners we know that it took HTC almost a year before recognizing it as a hardware issue and keep denying it for months right? And yeah they didn't provide any recall. They just simply say that it's a software issue and will be fixed on future updates and is only fixing phones that are sent to their service centre.
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Actually my HTC didn't have the problem at first, it only started after the 4.3 update. Then I just waited for 4.4 in hope of a fix, obviously nothing happened so I sent it for repairs. My friend's had this issue since the beginning on 4.2.
Anyway, I think we are being a bit off topic here
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How is that possible that you don't have the light bleed issue? Did you make that photograph as described (i.e. of the sky at night with flash on)? When did you buy your phone (or what is its manufacturing date)?
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Yes will post it later but bear in mind I have it in black and also use the included leather case.
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Yes will post it later but bear in mind I have it in black and also use the included leather case.
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I also plan to buy the black one, but all users are reporting flash bleed even with that. Also, I don't think the leather case would change anything, because the light finds its way into the camera through the plastic back, which the leather case can not prevent. Just to be sure, could you try taking those photos without the leather case?
I really hope that Sony fixed this (at least quietly in the background). When did you purchase it?
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I also plan to buy the black one, but all users are reporting flash bleed even with that. Also, I don't think the leather case would change anything, because the light finds its way into the camera through the plastic back, which the leather case can not prevent. Just to be sure, could you try taking those photos without the leather case?
I really hope that Sony fixed this (at least quietly in the background). When did you purchase it?
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Few days back.
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Few days back.
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:good: So that may be really good news for all of us if you really don't have the bleed . Could you post those photos somewhen today? Thanks.
I was talking with the support about these cam and beelding problems.
The short version is: sony gives a fack about these problems. So dont except any update for that.
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:good: So that may be really good news for all of us if you really don't have the bleed . Could you post those photos somewhen today? Thanks.
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Will try........overall am very pleased with this phone and its cam, I do own a 808 and spate of SLRs so this one is competing very well with them. Only thing thats needed is RAW support and more controls in manual mode, truly lacking compared to my 808.
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I was talking with the support about these cam and beelding problems.
The short version is: sony gives a fack about these problems. So dont except any update for that.
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Or they just don't want to make it official/public, so that they don't have to replace all already sold models. (As in case of the earlier mentioned HTC issue)
other forum do said sony has an updated version of this that solve the problem few weeks back. Not sure about credibility
I've seen cameras in the past that exhibited a pink tone in the centre of the image. My G4 does this too, though it is only noticeable in low light. For example if I take a photo of the grey of my cord trousers in low light the very centre of the image will have an obvious pink tint. If I take a photo in average to normal light it's not visible.
Does anyone else have this issue? Mine is an O2 UK phone, brown leather back.
The same photos taken on my S6 have no tint at all.
it looks like a faulty phone ,-, try to get a replacement for it
I've just taken it back. Might wait till I can get it for a better price for the time being, especially now I've got it out of my system
I'm wondering if the pink you're seeing in your low light pics could possibly be the infrared auto focus? It could be that the camera snaps the photo b4 the light goes out. That would explain why you see it in low light photos only.
You cannot see infrared light with your naked eyes, but a cell phone camera can. Have a friend watch you through another cell phone or camcorder as they stand in front of you, while you snap a photo of them. Tell them to look for a flickering red light coming from your camera.
If that's the case, it can be fixed with a software update. The light needs to go out b4 the shutter opens.
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I can't remember if the G4 has manual focus, but if it does, try using it for the same test. Maybe the infrared light won't come on and the pink will not show up.
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I'm wondering if the pink you're seeing in your low light pics could possibly be the infrared auto focus? It could be that the camera snaps the photo b4 the light goes out. That would explain why you see it in low light photos only.
You cannot see infrared light with your naked eyes, but a cell phone camera can. Have a friend watch you through another cell phone or camcorder as they stand in front of you, while you snap a photo of them. Tell them to look for a flickering red light coming from your camera.
If that's the case, it can be fixed with a software update. The light needs to go out b4 the shutter opens.
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I can't remember if the G4 has manual focus, but if it does, try using it for the same test. Maybe the infrared light won't come on and the pink will not show up.
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Already considered that idea but the simple test was to cover the IR port up with my finger. It still showed up. Thanks anyway
Um, I don't think the camera uses that IR port. That is for controlling your TV.
For example, many smartphones do not have an IR port, yet they have auto focus. Try what I suggested b4 dismissing it. At least try taking a pic of yourself in front of a mirror. The pic should not catch the red IR light. If it does, there's some kind of timing issue.
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Um, I don't think the camera uses that IR port. That is for controlling your TV.
For example, many smartphones do not have an IR port, yet they have auto focus. Try what I suggested b4 dismissing it. At least try taking a pic of yourself in front of a mirror. The pic should not catch the red IR light. If it does, there's some kind of timing issue.
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I mean the IR port on the back, not the top! The one that blinks. I've tried covering all the sensors and there's still a pink tint.
Think your phone is a broke one, call you agent and get a new one
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Has this been resolved by a replacement? I have the same issue with the pink tint/hue in the camera and I have the T-Mobile 811. I'm wondering if others have the same issue
Reminds me of the pink tint issue with the M7s. Did you feel any heat around the lens area?
In the case of the M7 it was crappy heat issues. If this happens again on the G4, I'll be getting rid of this real quick
The phone was cool and it still showed. I don't think is the heat because when I took pictures outside there was no pink tint. It's on low light conditions that it happens. I also had an issue with random dimming erratically with the auto brightness off. I did a warranty exchange and getting it tomorrow. I am hoping it doesn't have the same issues.
Got the replacement by and still has the pink center hue in the camera. This is bs. I believe people have this issue and they don't realize it. This can't be a coincidence. I don't even know what to do now. I can't return the phone since I'm past the return period.
I had the same nagging opinion with my first LG G4. I tried comparing it to the LG in my T-Mobile store but it was hard to replicate.
In the end, I replaced it for a different issue. There is still a pinkish hue near the center in some photos, particularly in lower lighting, though maybe a little better than the first (could be placebo effect)? I'm satisfied in it being just a quirk of this phone under some conditions.
Take a look at the "Post your LG photos" thread. Post some of your photos here or on that thread.
Not happy with the replacement. I still have the pink center. You definitely notice it on a white background . The crappy part is when to take video or pictures, the pink shows up. I used manual controls to change white balance to make the pink go away but it becomes way too white and unnatural. I'm going to open up a thread in the T-mobile section. I'm also going to contact LG and see what nonsense they are going to spew.
That's not pink, it's magenta, tmobiles signature colour.
If i remember correctly, lots of Xperia z3 users had the exact same issue, maybe they found a solution that can be transferred over to the g4?
There is a thread about green spots appearing in pictures for some people.
It seems that the green spots do not appear in the actual RAW (DNG) files themselves. Meaning that the green was not captured by the image sensor, and was instead added during the image processing that created the JPG.
Note that you will likely need to pull the DNG over to a computer and view it in appropriate software that can display DNG files (UFRaw is free). You will still see it on the screen/gallery on the phone, as those are showing the JPG.
Please try taking a picture in Manual, with JPG+DNG output, and check if the DNG shows the pink.
Edit: Other thread, about the green spots issue:
LG G4 green spot appearing in photos
It has nothing to do with the M7 purple tint thingy, this is something I saw in numerous old phones I had, mainly Sony Ericsson ones and perhaps Desire HD. Any white background(like walls) indoors will give the pink spot on older phones, I wonder how it's showing on G4
i tested and verified this pink spot in same conditions 10 minutes ago. lots of z3s also have the same problem afaik. i m starting to guess this problem originates from the lovely sony lenses. does anyone know which lens lg camera uses?
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i tested and verified this pink spot in same conditions 10 minutes ago. lots of z3s also have the same problem afaik. i m starting to guess this problem originates from the lovely sony lenses. does anyone know which lens lg camera uses?
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now i m sure. sony destroys everything.
I just got my V30 plus to day and the first thing I noticed was that the screen looks so sh!tty compared to my V20's.
I'm not talking about colors, it's about the texture. The screen is so noisy and dirty just like there's a layer of paper in the back. If you look carefully the grain doesn't move when you scroll the pages up and down, it's just there. But when I bump the brightness up to 100% it's hardly noticeable.
I've looked at every V30 at the stores and they all have the same issue. I've asked many people on the internet. They all said their phones were normal. Seriously? How is that normal? Are you guys all blind? I think they just did not notice or look hard enough. They just did not know the issue was there.
My V30+'s screen is as good as my old S8+ (maybe better). It's also better than iPhone X. Can you take a photo of your screen when you see the grains?
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My V30+'s screen is as good as my old S8+ (maybe better). It's also better than iPhone X. Can you take a photo of your screen when you see the grains?
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The grains are just there but when I took the screenshot it didn't show, because it's a hardware problem. If scroll up and down on the white/grey background you will notice that (not on 100% brightness).
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The grains are just there but when I took the screenshot it didn't show, because it's a hardware problem. If scroll up and down on the white/grey background you will notice that (not on 100% brightness).
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Do you have another phone or camera to take photo? Maybe V30 production batch in your location is not good.
I have idea what is the sand issue.. My V30+ screen is perfect. Please take a photo of the screen so we understand what is it.
return it...both of mine have PERFECT screens with ZERO of the reported issues.
Got my LG V30 this month and I see the same issue. The display is grainy, specially on white and green background
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I just got my V30 plus to day and the first thing I noticed was that the screen looks so sh!tty compared to my V20's.
I'm not talking about colors, it's about the texture. The screen is so noisy and dirty just like there's a layer of paper in the back. If you look carefully the grain doesn't move when you scroll the pages up and down, it's just there. But when I bump the brightness up to 100% it's hardly noticeable.
I've looked at every V30 at the stores and they all have the same issue. I've asked many people on the internet. They all said their phones were normal. Seriously? How is that normal? Are you guys all blind? I think they just did not notice or look hard enough. They just did not know the issue was there.
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I have three of these phones and no issues like your are describing.
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Yes, all LG POLED screens have some level of grain. It's not something new, few years older G Flex2 with much older OLED gen has it. People are not paying attention or don't know what to look for. If you compare side by side regular IPS and POLED from very close range you will definitely see it. It's like looking through screen protector.
Take a look at Play Store Green bar below "Google Play", move the page up and down slowly, lets say at around 30% brightness. Something is staying on the screen and not moving with the page.
It's hard to take it on photo.
Here is one picture: https://photos.app.goo.gl/mtFVtiSfzaz9hCkf1
but I doubt you'll see anything wrong, maybe if you can overlook lack of camera quality.
Same problem
I got my v30+ today and I'm facing the same problem. Not entirely sure how anyone else can't see the same. I'll be posting a picture of my disrupt soon. Please take a look and confirm if you guys/girls are having this problem or not. Thanks.
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I'm new so XDA is not letting me share the URLs. sad luck.
Insert image is not working as well ?
Maybe try to modify URL with some spaces so it will not be considered as URL
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personally I had two different V30 devices from different batch and distribution, both of them had more or less the same grain.
https:// photos.app.goo.gl/AHIHmS3PLbn9NstI3
Note the grainy effect on blue brightness rocker.
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My entire display has a uniform grainy effect, like it has a white paper as a background. My lg g6 has better display than this. Also the v30 looks quite warm(yellowish whites) when compared to G6 .
Yes, because LG G6 has IPS screen which is completely different tech.
To your picture, as expected such effect is pretty hard to capture by regular camera, but I see what are you saying, it's also visible on the white.
I think the best demostration could be to capture a closeup high quality video while scrolling page where is green/white, like Play store with low brightness.
Anyway I don't think you can do something about it, since it's not a bug, it's just stupid quality feature on every LG POLED not solved for a years .
Btw, I've checked pretty cheap mid range Samsung phones with AMOLED and screens there are without any noticeable grain, just like IPS. Perfectly clean solid colors.
A slightly yellowish white is also LG POLED feature as far as I know. It opposite to Samsung's blueish panels, however you can slightly correct it in the Display settings.
Thanks for all the info. Initially it seemed like I was the only one who had this issue with my v30. Knowing that it's gonna be the same with every other v30 I might as well kept this one. Thanks again.
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Thanks for all the info. Initially it seemed like I was the only one who had this issue with my v30. Knowing that it's gonna be the same with every other v30 I might as well kept this one. Thanks again.
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I have 2 V30s, one has this issue ans the other is flawless
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i do not think that on the white is some grain issue, it might be the display itself and the camera he shoot whith is such a BAD one with alot of noise and oversharpen...
my display is perfect, i don't even have the light bleeding everyone on the internet say they have
you might very well have a defective one, or is not properly cleaned ot you have some protection film
I shot the image with a g6 . I do have light bleeding from the very edges. Now I'm surely going to return this unit and go for a replacement.
It should not be worse so you can try if you have that option.
What I know so far is, that if someone saw the grain in the screen, saw it on every other replacement. I don't know anyone who confirmed that this issue completely disappeared with an another unit.
Well, amazon did send a technician today. I showed him the light bleeding from the edges 1st, followed by the the grainy effect on screen. He told me that he would approve the unit for replacement/refund on the basis of the light bleeding. Surprisingly he wasn't bothered about the grainy effect at all as he said, "its nothing". I did opt for a refund instead of replacement as I'm afraid the replacement unit might have the same problem, and if its without the light bleeding edges then I'll be stuffed. Gonna keep my g6 until a lg smartphone comes which has a good dac, good display, good camera and no notch(hopefully lg v40).
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Well, amazon did send a technician today. I showed him the light bleeding from the edges 1st, followed by the the grainy effect on screen. He told me that he would approve the unit for replacement/refund on the basis of the light bleeding. Surprisingly he wasn't bothered about the grainy effect at all as he said, "its nothing". I did opt for a refund instead of replacement as I'm afraid the replacement unit might have the same problem, and if its without the light bleeding edges then I'll be stuffed. Gonna keep my g6 until a lg smartphone comes which has a good dac, good display, good camera and no notch(hopefully lg v40).
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bleeding seems to be a problem for alot of people, luckly i do not have it and i didn't even search for it when i bought the phone
v30 has good dac, good display, good camera and no notch, is an upgrade over g6 in every aspect
it does fit all your requirements too, don't give up after the first try
Hello,
Today when taking photos I've noticed that light sources like lightbulbs and chandeliers appear twice in photo. It's hard to describe, but attached photos should clarify what I'm talking about.
I've checked on other phone, Honor 8X and it's same.
And here's my question to you: do you observe the same behaviour, or my device is flawed?
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Hello,
Today when taking photos I've noticed that light sources like lightbulbs and chandeliers appear twice in photo. It's hard to describe, but attached photos should clarify what I'm talking about.
I've checked on other phone, Honor 8X and it's same.
And here's my question to you: do you observe the same behaviour, or my device is flawed?
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That's odd....I have to see if my phone does the same.
Are you on Auto mode?
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That's odd....I have to see if my phone does the same.
Are you on Auto mode?
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Yes, I'm on Auto. I've gone also through pro mode settings, but none of them seem to reduce it.
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Yes, I'm on Auto. I've gone also through pro mode settings, but none of them seem to reduce it.
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And Honor 8x does the same? Thought that the camera lenses cover has some reflecting residue like oil etc...it is strange.
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And Honor 8x does the same? Thought that the camera lenses cover has some reflecting residue like oil etc...it is strange.
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Yes, Honor does the same. Actually I've just checked LG V30 and Huawei P10 Lite, and it's almost the same.
I'm kinda shocked I haven't noticed it before.
Can you please check on your phones?
I don't know if it's worth using warranty with my Note 10+ if it's the general issue.
I took a direct photo of my desk lamp and there's nothing wrong, I'll try again later tonight using different angles/sources.
I googled it and this problem is widely commented on:
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=phone+camera+ghost+reflections+of+light+sources
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I took a direct photo of my desk lamp and there's nothing wrong, I'll try again later tonight using different angles/sources.
I googled it and this problem is widely commented on:
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=phone+camera+ghost+reflections+of+light+sources
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Thank you for the link. So it seems like this can be considered "normal".
However I'm still curious what will be result of your tests. Please share what was the outcome, whether you were able to reproduce this.
It depends on the angle, sometimes you will see this, some times not, I have seen this in dedicated cameras as well
Thank you for your response.
As I'm testing it more, it seems very hard to take photo without ghost lights when not pointing straight into light source, attached few more sample files.
Maybe I'll get over it, if not I'll give it a go, and use warranty, they'll do something with this or not.
Hello,
That's amazing to see this post today, just the day i noticed exactely the same.
I noticed that when doing a video test, through windows stores (the room was in the dark, light going thru the little holes in the stores). I had exactely the same kind of little lights reproduced in the left quarter of the frame.
I thought it was due to the shape of the lens, some kind of light reflexion on it, but now i am wondering because that is the EXACT same thing as your description.
I would not send to warranty... since i had exactely the same 'problem'. I believe it is due to lens design.
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Hello,
That's amazing to see this post today, just the day i noticed exactely the same.
I noticed that when doing a video test, through windows stores (the room was in the dark, light going thru the little holes in the stores). I had exactely the same kind of little lights reproduced in the left quarter of the frame.
I thought it was due to the shape of the lens, some kind of light reflexion on it, but now i am wondering because that is the EXACT same thing as your description.
I would not send to warranty... since i had exactely the same 'problem'. I believe it is due to lens design.
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I believe you have the same, but don't know how often you see these lights.
I can understand this can be seen in some conditions, but as I'm testing it more, I almost can't take any photo without it.
I've looked through YouTube reviews with some night shots and can't see it there.
Attaching last two samples, to not spam this thread, as maybe I'm now oversensitive on this
I'll go to the store today, and see what they'll say.
Shogun91 said:
Thank you for the link. So it seems like this can be considered "normal".
However I'm still curious what will be result of your tests. Please share what was the outcome, whether you were able to reproduce this.
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Went on tonight to my favorite night photography places and the full moon was the perfect source of light to look into the "ghosting" thing. It's really easy to see what's happening with the light when moving the camera around its axis. Note 10 has a rather thick glass covering/protecting the lenses and the light entering the camera is being distorted by the inner and outer surfaces of the glass plate depending on the angle of entry.
I was having really boring Sunday today so I'm glad I found something to do because of that, and I even made a little drawing using the S-Pen(love the s-pen!) to illustrate directional changes of light while entering/exiting a medium of different densities (air/glass)
We know that light will get reflected by a glass at certain degree because of different density between air and glass. Basic physics. Our camera is made of multiple layers of lens with variables angle. So if 99% of light goes through the lens, 1% get reflected. We won't see it for normal light. But if the light source is very bright, even 1% will be visible on photo.
That's my hypothesis.
Happens all the time when facing a lamp light directly, with wide and zoom lens. But seems to be less visible with ultra-wide.
This looks like an internal reflection within the camera it's self.
Internal reflections are common on multi-element lens.
You pay big bucks for coated elements and engineering to suppress this effect in pro lens.
Internal reflections can also happen between the cmos sensor and any of the internal optics.
In the case the cover element is a prime suspect.
Lol, you can thousands for a pro shooting system and you will still find this.