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[Q]Is there any way to downgrade to 4.2 or lower?

Hello everyone.
I have bought N7 2nd generation few days ago and I feel very uncomfortable with android 4.3.
Is there any solution for downgrade to 4.2 or lower?

No.
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lys2002123 said:
Hello everyone.
I have bought N7 2nd generation few days ago and I feel very uncomfortable with android 4.3.
Is there any solution for downgrade to 4.2 or lower?
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define uncomfortable
did you not know this tablet had 4.3 stock?

Midnight_Rider said:
define uncomfortable
did you not know this tablet had 4.3 stock?
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I have known..
But things what I have used don't support 4.3 and i didn't know that.

lys2002123 said:
I have known..
But things what I have used don't support 4.3 and i didn't know that.
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ahh yes that's true, there may be stuff out there that won't work on 4.3. Only thing i can say about that is to contact the dev and wait for an update to the app. i know that's not what you wanted to hear, sorry. other than that though how do you like it? i got mine a few days ago and its been fantastic, best android device i've ever owned

Midnight_Rider said:
ahh yes that's true, there may be stuff out there that won't work on 4.3. Only thing i can say about that is to contact the dev and wait for an update to the app. i know that's not what you wanted to hear, sorry. other than that though how do you like it? i got mine a few days ago and its been fantastic, best android device i've ever owned
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I am really content with my new android device nexus 7
But... i think stereo speaker isn't louder than I expected.
It seems to have similar volume level with another devices..
And headphone jack is too quiet for me.
It is pretty much quieter than my ex-device Samsung Galaxy S2.
Is that only problem of mine?

thats a good question, havent even tried the headphone jack yet, guess i will now

Midnight_Rider said:
thats a good question, havent even tried the headphone jack yet, guess i will now
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Good
How's yours? I think it is so quiet with high-impedance headphone.
I also think it maybe a problem of Android 4.3..

lys2002123 said:
I have known..
But things what I have used don't support 4.3 and i didn't know that.
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Hi:
What compatibility problems are you having with 4.3 vs 4.22--apps, hardware....
Tom

thenrik said:
Hi:
What compatibility problems are you having with 4.3 vs 4.22--apps, hardware....
Tom
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Some Korean apps... and sound mods like viper4android.
And i think 4.3's audio output is quieter than 4.2.
My N7 is sooo quiet, both headphones and speakers.
Low volume really makes me disappointed.

lys2002123 said:
Hello everyone.
I have bought N7 2nd generation few days ago and I feel very uncomfortable with android 4.3.
Is there any solution for downgrade to 4.2 or lower?
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Do you need a tampon?
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Brava27 said:
Do you need a tampon?
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Sorry

I think you would lose more than you would gain
Newer devices have advances that play well with the newer OS systems that are available so in my view retro versions may not work as well with some of the more advanced designs in the device thingy.
That said I feel the volume is plenty loud and in fact sounds really good. This is without a doubt the best 7" tablet available at this time. The Nexus 10 is the best 10" tablet available at this time, yes better than the apple products. The audio is better and the screens are better and you can set it up as you please a more mature attitude from the manufacturer if you will. Less hand holding, less paternalistic access to your device.
I bought mine at Office Max with the 20% discount, I felt that the price was almost unbelievable and was surprised when they had some left in stock.
I would like more memory 64GB would be nice but I rooted it and use stick mount to run videos and move files.

lys2002123 said:
Some Korean apps... and sound mods like viper4android.
And i think 4.3's audio output is quieter than 4.2.
My N7 is sooo quiet, both headphones and speakers.
Low volume really makes me disappointed.
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Hi:
You might want to try these JBL Bluetooth speakers--they are loud:
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009AYLDSU/ref=oh_details_o06_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
As for Korean apps, you might try backing up the apk files and installing them. I know that Google says many of my Chinese apps are incompatible but they all work. Worth a try.
Let us know if you find a work around with bluetooth headphones, apps or anything else that works. It's going to be a rocky road with Bluetooth and 4.3. Many Bluetooth keyboards and some headphones don't work with 4.3. I'm reluctant to order anything Bluetooth without confirmation from others that it works with 4.3
I ordered some LG Bluetooth headphones in June. They worked with the Nexus 7 2012 but only played 1/4 volume on my Galaxy S3 so I returned them.
Keep us posted.
Tom

My sound on the headphones is good/decent. At about 1/2 volume is comfortable to me.
I'm not much of an audiophile so I don't know how impedance effects the volume. It's not extremely loud at max volume, though. I'd probably still be able to hear my music while on the lawn mower or on my motorbike but not sure about a jet plane ^^
Speakers at max volume is fine for a quiet room, but outside it probably won't be very loud.
Hope this helped some.
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I'm reluctant to order anything Bluetooth without confirmation from others that it works with 4.3
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Just confirming that my bluetooth keyboard (made by Anker for ~$25 on Amazon) works.
I just paired it and this is the first thing I've typed. Seems to do well. I can even alt-tab to other stuff running. Sweet.
Also just connected my bluetooth apple mightymouse (or whatever they're called) and that's working as well (at the same time as the keyboard)
Maybe someone will see this and find it helpful =)
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2

ongre12 said:
Newer devices have advances that play well with the newer OS systems that are available so in my view retro versions may not work as well with some of the more advanced designs in the device thingy.
That said I feel the volume is plenty loud and in fact sounds really good. This is without a doubt the best 7" tablet available at this time. The Nexus 10 is the best 10" tablet available at this time, yes better than the apple products. The audio is better and the screens are better and you can set it up as you please a more mature attitude from the manufacturer if you will. Less hand holding, less paternalistic access to your device.
I bought mine at Office Max with the 20% discount, I felt that the price was almost unbelievable and was surprised when they had some left in stock.
I would like more memory 64GB would be nice but I rooted it and use stick mount to run videos and move files.
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Thank you for your valueable opinion.
To me, I'm very satisfied with another features and there was no intend to diminish Google or Nexus.
And I'm very proud of having brand-new nexus which have the sharpest screen among the world.
What I want to say is Nexus 7's audio quality is quite good but volume is low, lower than how I expected.
Within my experience, commonly, tablets usually make more powerful sound than phone but my Nexus 7 doesn't.
It seems to have simmilar power with phones. I just feel sad about that.

thenrik said:
Hi:
You might want to try these JBL Bluetooth speakers--they are loud:
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009AYLDSU/ref=oh_details_o06_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
As for Korean apps, you might try backing up the apk files and installing them. I know that Google says many of my Chinese apps are incompatible but they all work. Worth a try.
Let us know if you find a work around with bluetooth headphones, apps or anything else that works. It's going to be a rocky road with Bluetooth and 4.3. Many Bluetooth keyboards and some headphones don't work with 4.3. I'm reluctant to order anything Bluetooth without confirmation from others that it works with 4.3
I ordered some LG Bluetooth headphones in June. They worked with the Nexus 7 2012 but only played 1/4 volume on my Galaxy S3 so I returned them.
Keep us posted.
Tom
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Thank you for attention.
Bluetooth is great and easy protocol for sharing small files or connect simple devices, but it is not so good for audio.
Nexus 7 doesn't support apt-x, so bluetooth will impair Nexus 7's quite good quality sound.
At this time I have no bluetooth device so I cannnot find which one works, which one doesn't.
Sorry for bad answer.

nachtfrost said:
My sound on the headphones is good/decent. At about 1/2 volume is comfortable to me.
I'm not much of an audiophile so I don't know how impedance effects the volume. It's not extremely loud at max volume, though. I'd probably still be able to hear my music while on the lawn mower or on my motorbike but not sure about a jet plane ^^
Speakers at max volume is fine for a quiet room, but outside it probably won't be very loud.
Hope this helped some.
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Just confirming that my bluetooth keyboard (made by Anker for ~$25 on Amazon) works.
I just paired it and this is the first thing I've typed. Seems to do well. I can even alt-tab to other stuff running. Sweet.
Also just connected my bluetooth apple mightymouse (or whatever they're called) and that's working as well (at the same time as the keyboard)
Maybe someone will see this and find it helpful =)
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2
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Maybe mine seems simmilar with yours, so I can think my device isn't corruped or something.
In fact I doubted my Nexus is a normal or not.
Thanks, thanks again.

Speakers are really loud. Comparable to my sons Samsung Tab and much much louder then the first gen.
As for apps, just because some apps haven't been given the green flag for 4.3 doesn't mean I won't work. I've sideloaded tons of apps that work fine.
Nothing really different between 4.3 and 4.2 cosmetically. You shouldnt want to downgrade just because a few devs haven't updated yet.
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lys2002123 said:
Some Korean apps... and sound mods like viper4android.
And i think 4.3's audio output is quieter than 4.2.
My N7 is sooo quiet, both headphones and speakers.
Low volume really makes me disappointed.
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You would have to find a ROM that boost the volume. Just going to 4.2.2 wont increase your volume. I've been playing around with some stuff to boost volume and hopefully will have a mod out soon for it
But player is right...the diff between 4.2 and 4.3 are min. They did make a lot of battery saving tweaks, BT stack tweaks and other hardware tweaks but its more hardware related then os related
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[Q] Audio quality?

Hi I just bought one of these off of eBay and I was just curious about the audio quality. I know they have the same Wolson DAC as the Galaxy S/Captivate but does it sound good? Thanks guys!

KosanRio said:
Hi I just bought one of these off of eBay and I was just curious about the audio quality. I know they have the same Wolson DAC as the Galaxy S/Captivate but does it sound good? Thanks guys!
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with voodoo it's simply awesome!

soadzoor said:
with voodoo it's simply awesome!
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Woah I thought Voodoo audio didn't work on Tegra devices...
This phone just got 10x better.
Maybe a wait a little bit on that Note 3...

KosanRio said:
Woah I thought Voodoo audio didn't work on Tegra devices...
This phone just got 10x better.
Maybe a wait a little bit on that Note 3...
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it needs of course a custom kernel which supports it,but I assure you it works and it works great!

Pls Suggest a headphone with mic.

hi,
I'm from INDIA, Please suggest me a compatible "In ear headphones with mic" for my nexus 5.
Cheers,
Ram

Senheisser mm 50 ip
Or the 70 - http://www.best-studio-headphones.c...ducts_id=478&gclid=CI2c992N4L0CFWT4wgodiCgAhQ
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Klipsch Image S4A is a good option that's fully compatible with Android devices.

Sony MH1C.
Very superb sound.

You can try these http://www.ebay.in/itm/STYLISH-NEW-GOLD-XIAOMI-PISTON-HEADPHONE-HEADSET-WITH-REMOTE-MIC-/271454748797?pt=IN_Mobile_Accessories&hash=item3f33f6c07d&_uhb=1#shpCntId Xiaomi Piston 2 , but i dont know these are genuine are not

I'm a big fan of my Moshi Mythos headphones. They take a great beating but go like a champ and sound almost as good as my senn cx200s.
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Thanks for the replies
gramstry said:
hi,
I'm from INDIA, Please suggest me a compatible "In ear headphones with mic" for my nexus 5.
Cheers,
Ram
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Hi,
Can anyone know where can i buy LG G2 Quad beats 2 headphones in india...I asked in LG showrooms in chennai..Out of stock is the answer..
cheers,
Ram

try the amkette trubeats x12, I felt they are better than even the Sennheiser

NEED Help!!! Nexus 5 Microphone Earbuds

So im thinking to buy Sennheiser MM 50 IP but im currently dont know if its working with my nexus 5 (mostly about the microphone)
I need some help, thank you.

They work fine and sound great. I have them
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Ben36 said:
They work fine and sound great. I have them
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So no problem when calling people with microphone (low sound quality etc.) ?
And do you recommend anything else with Mic. for nexus 5?

Seriously? Noone? ...

Don't have that pair, but the ones that came with my iPhone work well enough. The sound quality is crappy, but what can you expect from an Apple product. /shrug
By crappy sound I mean the music and people's voices as I hear them, the mic works well from what I'm told. Music and all sounds crappy on these things regardless of what I plug them into.

snives said:
Don't have that pair, but the ones that came with my iPhone work well enough. The sound quality is crappy, but what can you expect from an Apple product. /shrug
By crappy sound I mean the music and people's voices as I hear them, the mic works well from what I'm told. Music and all sounds crappy on these things regardless of what I plug them into.
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Talking about new i phone 5-6 buds? thats werid i though they are good, btw a lot of ppl complaining about the microphone of that one (not working) im confused now lol

INeedThisNow said:
So no problem when calling people with microphone (low sound quality etc.) ?
And do you recommend anything else with Mic. for nexus 5?
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I've never had any problems
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INeedThisNow said:
Seriously? Noone? ...
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I use Sony MDR-XB50AP's and as the name suggests, it's made to work with pretty much every Android device. Great SQ in general and if you don't mind some quality bass you'll love them. They retail for lower than those Sennheisers.

Xiaomi piston 3 are best and they cost 12$ from china

FooBazza said:
I use Sony MDR-XB50AP's and as the name suggests, it's made to work with pretty much every Android device. Great SQ in general and if you don't mind some quality bass you'll love them. They retail for lower than those Sennheisers.
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So you sure no problems with Nexus 5 huh ? microphone and everything quality etc... ?
Because im gonna buy them right away!

INeedThisNow said:
So you sure no problems with Nexus 5 huh ? microphone and everything quality etc... ?
Because im gonna buy them right away!
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I've been using them since February and nope haven't noticed any issues besides V4A or AudioFX bugs but those have nothing to do with the headset themselves.

FooBazza said:
I've been using them since February and nope haven't noticed any issues besides V4A or AudioFX bugs but those have nothing to do with the headset themselves.
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WOW MAN Thank you so much!!! I bought them today and they are amazing! Crazy bass and SQ!
Also the Microphone works Great with Nexus 5 (And Button for Answer Calls + Play/Pause works with no problem)
Thank you for the advice again! :good:

Headphones under 25$ [1700INR]

I've been on a headphone hunt for quite some time and I still couldn't find the best one under 25$.:angel:
I've got a list of some headphones that I think is great.
So, I need suggestions on which one to buy.
And people who own any of these are more than welcome to share your opinions!!:good:
1. OnePlus Bullets Earphones (V2)
Link
https://www.amazon.in/OnePlus-Bulle...s+wireless&dpPl=1&dpID=31COHgcl7uL&ref=plSrch
2. Sony MDR-XB55
Link
https://www.amazon.in/Sony-MDR-XB55...+mdrxb55ap&dpPl=1&dpID=31xKGWSNZdL&ref=plSrch
3. Sennheiser-CX-275
Link
https://www.amazon.in/Sennheiser-CX...+earphones&dpPl=1&dpID=419Mt+rdVfL&ref=plSrch
4. JBL T290
Link
https://www.amazon.in/JBL-T290-Meta...coding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=DBSV5S3MCNSP4XNQ6YA9
If you guys have a better option... Please do suggest! You're more than welcome!
**Thanks in advance**:victory:

2 or 3 anyone of them will suit your needs well, I will lean towards Sony MDR because personally I have tried it and it has some amazing bass and better build quality than cx275 but it's your choice but go for 2 or 3.

JIBIN.D.GAMER said:
2 or 3 anyone of them will suit your needs well, I will lean towards Sony MDR because personally I have tried it and it has some amazing bass and better build quality than cx275 but it's your choice but go for 2 or 3.
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Thank you bruv! But still is the OnePlus Bullets V2 any good?

Mi IV hybrid dual driver earphones. You've missed it

the_phantom_97 said:
Thank you bruv! But still is the OnePlus Bullets V2 any good?
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Nopes, not worth the price when comparing to 2 or 3.

imma's_boy said:
Mi IV hybrid dual driver earphones. You've missed it
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Dude!:highfive: I saw that! But it doesn't ship to my place(India):angel:
Outta luck I guess:crying:

the_phantom_97 said:
Dude!:highfive: I saw that! But it doesn't ship to my place(India):angel:
Outta luck I guess:crying:
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Same here.. I'm also in India... It's available on gearbest.com

imma's_boy said:
Same here.. I'm also in India... It's available on gearbest.com
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Cheers bruv! :good::fingers-crossed:
Will definitely look into it! Tysm btw:angel:

Best Bluetooth earphones under 2k
1)Qcy M1c its louder with heavy bass
2)Qcy M1PRO it has battery saving features

Well If you are willing to expand your budget by a tiny bit you can get ANC as well.
I'd recommend the type-C highly & more so than the latter especially if you have a phone with a type-C port because it has stellar noise-cancellation for the asking price
https://www.mi.com/hk/mi-noise-cancelling-earphones-type-C/
While this 3.5mm is not as amazing as the type-C version its almost equally good considering the way they designed it with a clip & there are 2 levels of ANC to choose from & has an 8 hour battery. My only complaint with this is I wish the battery was larger.
https://www.mi.com/hk/mi-noise-cancelling-earphones/
I have used both & in combination with https://store.mi.com/in/item/3180600001 you also get ANC & BT with the 3.5mm version which I feel is a huge advantage & the only disadvantage of the type-C version(ie you cannot charge, from a powerbank or otherwise, & use the headset) !