[Q] Kit Kat reading SD cards... - G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Did a little research last night on why Google Play Music wasn't reading my music files on the external storage. What I've gathered is that Kit Kat isn't allowing apps to gain permission into other folders. I had to move some files around for them to actually be played in Play music. Same goes for MX Player.... It's very annoying with this work around. I understand the "security" part of not allowing apps into other folders, but Google Music?!? Come on now! It's making the SD card almost useless. And yes, I've read the theories on Google pushing their cloud services on us
I'm curious what most of you are doing? I'm not rooted as well.

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Meow You. said:
Did a little research last night on why Google Play Music wasn't reading my music files on the external storage. What I've gathered is that Kit Kat isn't allowing apps to gain permission into other folders. I had to move some files around for them to actually be played in Play music. Same goes for MX Player.... It's very annoying with this work around. I understand the "security" part of not allowing apps into other folders, but Google Music?!? Come on now! It's making the SD card almost useless. And yes, I've read the theories on Google pushing their cloud services on us
I'm curious what most of you are doing? I'm not rooted as well.
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I don't believe that that is the SD write problem, I do believe it's the .nomedia files in your music folder.
You can check to see if there are any by loading your SD card on a PC, enable viewing of ALL system files and doing a root search of the sd card for .nomedia files. Select and delete any that are found then mount the SD card in your phone and see if it can see your files again.
BTW, the read/write permissions on stock ROM is for non-stock apps. Any apps that were already installed on the phone, such as Google Play Music, have permissions to read and write to SD cards. That is why I think there might be .nomedia files on your SD card, they are not needed or essential, just used to hide files from being read by apps and programs, you can delete any and all that you find.

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[Q] Organize the SD card

is there any way to better organize the sd card? android was set up to simply dump all app data to the sd card. sometimes apps allow you to set the directory used for saving data, but the vast majority do not. i was wondering if there was a way to dump all app data into a single folder, and have all future app data saves default to that folder. this way i could have something like this:
music
videos
images
backups
app data
as my directory structure. perhaps partitioning the card would allow something like this effectively? that's not the ideal solution for obvious reasons, but i really dislike how everything is thrown together which makes it hard for me to find what i'm looking for. anyone look into this before?
I'm no developer but because some apps write their own directory by default i think it would be difficult. I think all the apps you use would need to be modified. Although some allow you to choose, most dont
Thats actually a great idea, were working on something like that now, so far is only able to clean temp Files from left behind but the next step is file organization and removing duplicate floders
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Google Music - which directory?

I have an alarm app that can play music files stored on the phone.
In my old HTC EVO, I knew that Google Music was stored in a directory (something like android/data/com.google.android.music) but when I go to that directory on my new GNex, it's empty. I'm using ES File explorer to search for music, but can't seem to find any.
I am unrooted and very stock.
Q: which directory does Google Play Music store music in?
It's in a different location now
slinky22 said:
I have an alarm app that can play music files stored on the phone.
In my old HTC EVO, I knew that Google Music was stored in a directory (something like android/data/com.google.android.music) but when I go to that directory on my new GNex, it's empty. I'm using ES File explorer to search for music, but can't seem to find any.
I am unrooted and very stock.
Q: which directory does Google Play Music store music in?
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Yea, it used to be /sdcard/Android/data/com.google.android.music/cache/music but they moved it. Try looking in /data/data/com.google.android.music/cache/music
The downside is that all of your mp3s are numbered and not very easy to differentiate when browsing. Not such a big deal if you just want random plays from your offline music or only have a couple available offline but, it definitely sucks if you have a specific song in mind out of 25K offline songs.
Hope this helps!
house4202 said:
Yea, it used to be /sdcard/Android/data/com.google.android.music/cache/music but they moved it. Try looking in /data/data/com.google.android.music/cache/music
The downside is that all of your mp3s are numbered and not very easy to differentiate when browsing. Not such a big deal if you just want random plays from your offline music or only have a couple available offline but, it definitely sucks if you have a specific song in mind out of 25K offline songs.
Hope this helps!
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I knew about the numbered mp3 issue. Just a random shuffle in the morning is usually good enough to get me out of bed.
I looked and didn't find
/data/data/com.google.android.music/cache/music
It just went to: /data - then "Empty folder"
slinky22 said:
I knew about the numbered mp3 issue. Just a random shuffle in the morning is usually good enough to get me out of bed.
I looked and didn't find
/data/data/com.google.android.music/cache/music
It just went to: /data - then "Empty folder"
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the music is in the location mentioned. i just checked mine.
Zepius said:
the music is in the location mentioned. i just checked mine.
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I'm using ES File Manager. In the settings, I have "show hidden files." Is it possible it shows up as "empty folder" because I'm not rooted?
Try /data/user/com.google.android.music/cache/music. That's where mine is at least.
Use Offline Music Importer. It's an app, by Sapien...
Yes, Music importer works great
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Go back to root
slinky22 said:
I knew about the numbered mp3 issue. Just a random shuffle in the morning is usually good enough to get me out of bed.
I looked and didn't find
/data/data/com.google.android.music/cache/music
It just went to: /data - then "Empty folder"
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I think you might be in the internal memory or the sd card, still. You need to go all the way back to root. I haven't played around with ES File Manager but it is fairly easy to do in Solid Explorer. Just search Solid Explorer Beta2 by Krzysztof GÅ‚odowski in Google Play and you should find it.
Once you are in root, your data folder should have a lot more folders inside.
house4202 said:
I think you might be in the internal memory or the sd card, still. You need to go all the way back to root. I haven't played around with ES File Manager but it is fairly easy to do in Solid Explorer. Just search Solid Explorer Beta2 by Krzysztof GÅ‚odowski in Google Play and you should find it.
Once you are in root, your data folder should have a lot more folders inside.
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I downloaded Solid Explorer and tried to go to root /data. "Cannot browse to /data . An unknown error occurred."
As mentioned above - could this be because my device is not rooted?
Meanwhile, I think I'll try that Offline Music Importer.
Thanks for the help, folks.
Actually, Offline Music Importer can detect I have Google Music installed, but can't find any files. I know that there is offline music on my device, because I have clicked on the "on device only" button and I can see the songs.
I think you need to be rooted. not sure about apps that copy them for you like offline music or cloud sniper.
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You'll need root
slinky22 said:
I downloaded Solid Explorer and tried to go to root /data. "Cannot browse to /data . An unknown error occurred."
As mentioned above - could this be because my device is not rooted?
Meanwhile, I think I'll try that Offline Music Importer.
Thanks for the help, folks.
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Yes, sorry, I should have mentioned that your device will need to be rooted in order to access it. I'm not sure of any other way to get to this location, sorry.

[Q] Strange problem with Google Play Music

Hi there,
I've gone through the forums extensively, can't seem to find any help with this. I'm running Paranoid Android. Everywhere I look, I'm told that I should be able to find my pinned music from Google Play Music at Android/data/com.google.android.music/cache, but after pinning albums, I cannot find them there (using Root Explorer and Astro). I'm trying to set this up to move these files to my external sd card using a script a found here, but I can't do that until I figure out exactly where my music is being downloaded to! Anyways, if anyone has run into this problem and figured out the answer, their help would be greatly appreciated.
This whole business of figuring out the play music stuff is really quite disappointing - it should be easier to do things like download the music to your external card.
Thanks
Rob116 said:
Hi there,
I've gone through the forums extensively, can't seem to find any help with this. I'm running Paranoid Android. Everywhere I look, I'm told that I should be able to find my pinned music from Google Play Music at Android/data/com.google.android.music/cache, but after pinning albums, I cannot find them there (using Root Explorer and Astro). I'm trying to set this up to move these files to my external sd card using a script a found here, but I can't do that until I figure out exactly where my music is being downloaded to! Anyways, if anyone has run into this problem and figured out the answer, their help would be greatly appreciated.
This whole business of figuring out the play music stuff is really quite disappointing - it should be easier to do things like download the music to your external card.
Thanks
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You do know you can download music through other apps right? Then manually move em to your ext sd

Q: KitKat and Dropsync/ezPDF reader compatibility

Hi all,
So I am still confused about the Sdcard permissions thing and really need this question answered before upgrading.
Im a scientist, and therefore have hundreds of saved literature articles in pdf format.
For several years, I have been putting new pdfs on dropbox for library syncing. Paired with dropsync, this would allow me to automatically sync all new papers directly to my tablet for viewing in ezPDF reader.
Is the kitkat update going to break ezPDF's ability to read and access the pdfs that dropsync is handling?
I often do not have wifi while Im reading, so a simple dropbox login that does not sync my files to the local sd card is useless to me.
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I used to auto sync photos and documents that I set up folders for on my external SD card using FolderSync. That all ended with 4.4 on my N3. It's not awful though. I moved a ton of crap and apps to external SD and my sync folders to internal SD. Samsung's My Files has full access to the external SD card and also links to FTP (what I use) and some cloud services so it's pretty easy to get files to the external SD. Set up a dual instance of My Files in multi view and you can view multiple sources at once and drag and drop between them. That includes cloud services and FTP.

[Q] SD Card shares the same disk with os

Hello everyone..
So I while managing pictures on my SD card, I noticed something that is making dumping/importing pictures to my PC, a nightmare.
I think I have a solution, but the app (MoveToSdcard), is giving the following message: "SD Card shares the same disk with os"
Looking at some of the file/folder structure, I think I know what's happening, but I don't know how to fix without breaking stuff.
What I'm trying to do is move all apps that will every have pictures associated with them, to the SDCard. This will allow me to export (and worry) only pictures from the SDCard and delete them like I normally would with my iPhone.
Anyone know of a way to resolve this or have a suggestion on how to achieve what I'm trying to do?
Why do I want to dump my pictures? I put them on a NAS, back them up to various cloud services. I also place my none mobile photo work on this NAS an upload them as well.
droidmyworld said:
Hello everyone..
So I while managing pictures on my SD card, I noticed something that is making dumping/importing pictures to my PC, a nightmare.
I think I have a solution, but the app (MoveToSdcard), is giving the following message: "SD Card shares the same disk with os"
Looking at some of the file/folder structure, I think I know what's happening, but I don't know how to fix without breaking stuff.
What I'm trying to do is move all apps that will every have pictures associated with them, to the SDCard. This will allow me to export (and worry) only pictures from the SDCard and delete them like I normally would with my iPhone.
Anyone know of a way to resolve this or have a suggestion on how to achieve what I'm trying to do?
Why do I want to dump my pictures? I put them on a NAS, back them up to various cloud services. I also place my none mobile photo work on this NAS an upload them as well.
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I'm having a hard time understanding specifically what you are trying to do. But if the end goal is back up pictures to your NAS then I suggest downloading "Sweet Home! Alfa". It will allow you to select which albums to backup and automatically do it for you based on preference (for example, I have mine setup to do it when I'm connected to my home network and plug my phone in to charge".
You can set it to automatically delete photos off you device once backed up too if you want. Managing albums can be done through the stock gallery app or through a file explorer.
Hope this helps.
BTW, /sdcard actually refers to internal storage. So if you are trying to move apps to /sdcard, that it why you are getting the error. You are telling it to move an app from internal storage to internal storage which doesn't make sense to the app
Hi Artimis! Yea. I'm sorry about how I laid out the thread. Not clear at all. Basically, there are pictures everywhere
I use several apps - Instagram, Photoshop, SquareDroid, Afterfocus, Lapse It, Viva Video, etc. Each one of these apps either place the completed edits/export in their own folder, located in the app's directory, respectively.
When I pull out the SDCard and put it into my machine to dump/export them, not all the pictures are there, because some of the pictures are in their respective app exported folders and those are on the Internal SD.
This now forces me to hunt around and hope I've located all the possible directories and pictures.
If Instead relocate the apps to the SD card, the export folders would also be there, making it one less and easy step to ensure that all possible pictures/directories are accounted for.
Make any sense? Sorry about that.
Now the app you recommended takes it to a whole other level! This is awesome! and it detects new photo directories, created anywhere on the phone or SD card! This more or less solves my whole problem! WOW! Thank you!
As for the whole SD thing, I'm confused. Not a big deal though since all pictures and videos (all big in size) taken using XCam end up on the true SDCard. All the other pictures scattered about are not large in size and I'm not concerned about it. It's just a pain to hunt them down and dump/export them.
This app you suggested though is perfect and solves my problem, and then some!
Thanks Artimis!
wouldn't it be easier to just use Dropbox's import feature or even their auto saving of pictures? Of course letting G+ save them is also a more practical solution, I use both, and would be less time consuming
Yes, I use them as well. They work well. The goal is not to move away from any of them either. The goal is to save them locally to my NAS and at the same time, recover the space back on the device/SDCard.
The program that Artimis recommended takes care of all these issues.
I'm good! Thanks!
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Whenever I try to install apps on to my SD card it says "SDcard share the same disk with os" and won't let me transfer apps.
Tyfighter98 said:
Whenever I try to install apps on to my SD card it says "SDcard share the same disk with os" and won't let me transfer apps.
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Does your phone actually have an sdcard in it (it would show up as something like /external_SD through the file system). As I mentioned before, /sdcard actually refers to the phones internal storage. It is a symlinked directory that emulates an sdcard but is mapped to /data/media.
So you will get this error with an app trying to move something from /data/app to /sdcard because it is actually trying to move it to /data/media/.. which doesn't do any good.
If you do have an actual external sdcard (/external_SD) then the problem could be due to the write protection changes implemented in kit kat. There are threads on how to fix this if you are rooted.
I do I have an SD card in my tablet and I supposedly already did an SD card fix for Kit Kat but I will look into it thanks.
i have micromax canvas juice 2 .... i inserted 16gb sd card but iam not able to move apps to my sd card ..... please help me
So how to make it understand I have to sent it to ad card and read data from there..

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