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Competition !!

First person to find evidence of an Android user trying to run Windows Mobile wins !

win what an hd2?
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Yes, you are right. I forgot.
The prize is cudos and respect.

haha! Good luck with that one. why would you even consider it?

you'se been trolled, yo!

HelloWorld3 said:
you'se been trolled, yo!
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Well, I can see that it looks like that.
Actually I'm trying to make a point. I have had WM devices for a number of years now. WM6 was the last proper advance and that was a while ago and really only made things stable. WM5 was a dog imo
I just find it very telling that so many WM users are trying to get Android to run yet I'd say (prove me wrong) no one who has a device that doesn't run WM is trying to run it.
What does that say ?

dik23 said:
Well, I can see that it looks like that.
Actually I'm trying to make a point. I have had WM devices for a number of years now. WM6 was the last proper advance and that was a while ago and really only made things stable. WM5 was a dog imo
I just find it very telling that so many WM users are trying to get Android to run yet I'd say (prove me wrong) no one who has a device that doesn't run WM is trying to run it.
What does that say ?
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It says... other devices are limited to 1 OS, while WinMo has the ability to expand across several. Right now, I'm running WinMo 6.5, Android, and Blackberry software, in 1 phone.
What does that say ?

That says that HTC release some excellent hardware and that there are some dedicated hackers (white hat) out there willing to help out.
Why, what did you think ?

dik23 said:
That says that HTC release some excellent hardware and that there are some dedicated hackers (white hat) out there willing to help out.
Why, what did you think ?
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Closer to greys than whites tbh...

madman1520 said:
Closer to greys than whites tbh...
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I was being nice lol

it says that we have the ability to run two OS and can choose between the two as we desire... it also says that WinMo rules

nemo0405 said:
it also says that WinMo rules
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And how did you come to that conclusion ?

"they" have even put Android on the Iphone

sd73ta said:
"they" have even put Android on the Iphone
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All I saw was the iPhone boot a Linux kernel. Never got to an actual OS.

I'm constantly impressed by Linux, it seems it'll run on anything that has a current passing through it

sd73ta said:
"they" have even put Android on the Iphone
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OMG !!!! We have a contender
1st post on your link - karavanas
"does this mean that windows on iphone is close?"
However he doesn't want in on an Android device so, sorry, no cigar !

Why would you want to find an Android user trying to boot WinMo? They don't exist.

iamterence said:
Why would you want to find an Android user trying to boot WinMo? They don't exist.
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And why don't they exist ....?

If some phone with specs better than a winmo phone came out with android on my carrier (sprint) I'd want to be able to run winmo instead. Why? just cuz i like it better.

ianderson_76 said:
All I saw was the iPhone boot a Linux kernel. Never got to an actual OS.
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interesting to see linux adaptability

Running Windows Mobile on htc desire?? Possible??

i am getting my self a htc desire but i have been a user of windows mobile software's for ever and i love it.
would i be able to still use some of the software's that i have on hand??
I would appriciate if you could email me your replies on this subject to
[email protected]
Thank you in advance

From what Ive seen on here from when other people have posted this question hes gonna get a lot of hate emails lol.

LOL, what a redicilous question!! Android FTW!

i'd wager it's possible if you can find a few dedicated people to support your cause.
Oh, and btw, bwahahahahahahahahahaha
And that's coming from someone who's had 4 WinMo devices in a row before a desire.

Since the specs are similar It might not be that difficult for people to get together etc..
But, If you can, try the desire and the HD2 and see which you prefer. After owning winmo before, and coming within inches of owning a HD2 and then trying a desire - linux is so much better at the user experience. The fluidity, ease of use and speed at which things are accessed is far better than the winmo 6.1 and 6.5 I have used before. The OS is very intuitive. I bet you could give this phone to a 6 yr old and they would within a short time frame be using this better than the general user. I might try this.
I'm just very happy that the phone doesnt stress me out trying to use it like winmo did. writing txts and swapping between functions is quick. Very cool.

It's not "Is it possible?" it's "Why bother?"

I hate "flame" conversation. But WHY bother? If you want snapdragon with WM then HD2 is your device. I have 10years of history with windows mobile devices from Cassiopeia A-11 with Windows CE, thru WM2003, 05, 06 and 6.5. And I can say after month with HTC Desire, every possible app is already for android and it runs faster and looks better. Except professional apps used in parcel delivery and stock monitoring (only question of time).
Don´t worry you´ll do just fine.

dieselboy said:
The OS is very intuitive. I bet you could give this phone to a 6 yr old and they would within a short time frame be using this better than the general user. I might try this.
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A six year old might be fine, the missus still struggles...

I, myself, am a fully fledged Android convert. Previously, my favourite devices were all WinMobile (Never liked Symbian much). I took a leap of faith and got my Desire on a bit of a whim (and a LOT of research) and I can honestly say I love Android to bits, it's easily the best Phone/Phone OS I've ever used so I'm on everyone in this forum's side when it comes to Android vs. WinMobile.
But I still have to say, I see nothing wrong with what the OP is asking. If someone released a port of Windows Mobile 6.5 or 7 for the Desire, I'd probably try it out myself, even for just a giggle. I know I'd go back to android probably within a few hours, but that's not the point, it's fun to play with stuff like that.
The fact that the guy has picked the Desire over the likes of the HD2 tells me that he's made his choice with Android and just wants to keep his options open - and what's wrong with that? This is exactly the kind of thing that XDA dev was designed for. Hell, my dream would be to have an OS choice at bootup, imagine being able to pick between your favourite custom ROMs, a stock ROM and even a WinMo ROM? That would be pretty epic and I don't think anyone would complain that it was a "Waste of time". So go easy on the guy, it's not all that stupid a question.

neoKushan said:
So go easy on the guy, it's not all that stupid a question.
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It is a stupid question when it gets asked week in week out.
A simple search would've revealed this - I just searched "Windows Mobile" and found 5 threads asking the same question.
Regards,
Dave

Which just means there's a fair amount of interest in it, making it even less of a stupid question. Rather than flame the guy, just ask him nicely to use search in future and point him to one of the threads.
Personally, I don't think the ignorance of the search bar is any worse than those who flame people for asking "stupid questions".

neoKushan said:
Which just means there's a fair amount of interest in it, making it even less of a stupid question.
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No, it just means that the poster(s) can't be bothered to read the forum rules!
1. Search before posting
Use one of our search functions before posting, whether you have a question or something new to share, it's very likely someone already asked that question or shared that news.
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Note - it's rule 1!
Regards,
Dave

foxmeister said:
No, it just means that the poster(s) can't be bothered to read the forum rules!
Note - it's rule 1!
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Dave
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Exactly - and the point I'm trying to make is that Rule #2 applies just as much as Rule 1!
2. Be polite and respect your fellow xda-dev user.
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neoKushan said:
Exactly - and the point I'm trying to make is that Rule #2 applies just as much as Rule 1!
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You clearly haven't been here long if you think what's been said on this thread constitutes a flame - this is so tame it wouldn't even register on a mod's radar!
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Dave

Why bother buying a Desire and ask for a WinMo porting? just buy an HD Mini or an HD2.

foxmeister said:
You clearly haven't been here long if you think what's been said on this thread constitutes a flame - this is so tame it wouldn't even register on a mod's radar!
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I wouldn't say flaming, just wasn't terribly polite. Sure, the guy could have and should have used the search engine ,that's fair enough, but all the "Lols, why bother, android is teh win, winmo is teh suck!" style comments weren't helpful, informative or necessary at all.

I'm sorry, but if you don't believe this is a stupid question I would strongly question your intelligence. Is there some problem picking up a Windows Mobile? Are they rare enough that such a strange request would come up again and again? It's silly because for those that WANT a WM phone, one is easily acquired. It's like asking if there's a way to turn my XBOX into a PS3 because I don't like XBOX games...then I'm a fool for buying one! Just because there are a lot of silly people does not render their silliness valid.

Aitese said:
I'm sorry, but if you don't believe this is a stupid question I would strongly question your intelligence. Is there some problem picking up a Windows Mobile? Are they rare enough that such a strange request would come up again and again? It's silly because for those that WANT a WM phone, one is easily acquired. It's like asking if there's a way to turn my XBOX into a PS3 because I don't like XBOX games...then I'm a fool for buying one! Just because there are a lot of silly people does not render their silliness valid.
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See, this is exactly my point. Here's a reply that, within the first line, attempts to insult. Why do that? It doesn't help and all you'll do is drag out this thread much more than it needs to be. Does this "stupid question" bother you that much? Then don't reply! Ignore it and it'll go away.
Anyway, upon further inspection, it's actually not that stupid inquestion. Despite the knee-jerk reaction we all got from the title, if you read his post carefully, he's actually asking if there's any way he can run some of his windows mobile programs on the Desire. Not the full OS, just some of the programs. Sure, this is obviously a big "no", but is it really that stupid a question? We have emulators for plenty of other devices and anyone not that familliar with Android might not know that it's a completely different OS, or that it's completely incompatible. He's clearly a newbie, so go easy.
All I'm really saying is, if this kind of thing bothers you, drop the attitude and juse ignore it.

neoKushan said:
See, this is exactly my point. Here's a reply that, within the first line, attempts to insult. Why do that?
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Because, judging from the amount of times I seen this patently ridiculous request, the polite helpful tone doesn't seem to work.
Sure, this is obviously a big "no", but is it really that stupid a question?
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Yes frankly. It doesn't strike you as silly? you don't think the ability to run WM apps or some sort of virtualisation on Android might have made big waves by now? No? Really?
I would say if the attitude bothers you, YOU ignore it.

[email protected] said:
Why bother buying a Desire and ask for a WinMo porting? just buy an HD Mini or an HD2.
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Maybe it's because the Desire has more RAM that the HD2 and HD Mini, why can't someone just port winmo on a desire and shut people up thats asking for it too be ported..... surely its not that hard to port it over.....
"Maybe its just to hard for XDA Developers or anonymous developers on this forum to port it over.... ah well soo much for theres skills....
It serisouly serisouly can't be that hard.... if Android can be ported on a winmo mobile, why is it soo hard to port winmo on a Android phone thats 100% capable of running the O/S.
Please will someone just port it over to the Desire soo there will not be any more future threads of if it can be ported over.....
Maybe some people don't like Android and prefer winmo O/S because of there purchased apps maybe.
Please don't go mocking me saying "omg why would anyone wan't to do that.... Android is the best because its open source etc....

[Q] Desire and Windows Mobile 6.5 / 7?

Hi,
Looking at a new phone as my contract is up for renewal end of the year and think the desire is the best option but really want to run Windows... Anyone got a windows rom for the desire?
..or should i just look for another
Thanks,
Brad

blabley said:
hi,
looking at a new phone as my contract is up for renewal end of the year and think the desire is the best option but really want to run windows... Anyone got a windows rom for the desire?
..or should i just look for another
thanks,
brad
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no no no no no!!

AndroHero said:
no no no no no!!
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You dont think it's a good idea then no

Lol you better prepare to be flamed to hell and back!
This has been asked a few times now, and no one gets off lightly
Windows can't be ported to the Desire. If you really want it, you will have to look elsewhere.
Good luck

blabley said:
You dont think it's a good idea then no
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thats not the point, the point is its not possible lol

Chicken oriental

blabley said:
Looking at a new phone as my contract is up for renewal end of the year and think the desire is the best option but really want to run Windows... Anyone got a windows rom for the desire?
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First of all, if you'd actually *searched* before posting, you'd have found that this question get asked on a weekly basis, and the answer is always the same.
That being said, if you are not due an upgrade until the end of the year, why not wait until the end of the year before looking? The Desire will have been superseded by then, and Windows Mobile 7 phones will be out.
Regards,
Dave

foxmeister said:
First of all, if you'd actually *searched* before posting, you'd have found that this question get asked on a weekly basis, and the answer is always the same.
That being said, if you are not due an upgrade until the end of the year, why not wait until the end of the year before looking? The Desire will have been superseded by then, and Windows Mobile 7 phones will be out.
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Dave
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Yeah I did search... but guess it was so late i must of missed that
sorry
...and yeah just thought i'd ask

Windows 7 on HTC desire

Probably a very silly question but I have to ask ;-)
Will Windows 7 ever be able to run on a rooted HTC desire ?
If so who's gonna have a go ...
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

one word WHY!! I can cope without another device showing a blue screen of death!!

No, Windows is closed source so making it work is difficult and probably illegal too.

@OP: That's a joke right? ..... right??

popester0 said:
one word WHY!! I can cope without another device showing a blue screen of death!!
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Because you can is the obvious answer, but you can't so erm....

Who needs to have Windows 7 if you can have Windows 95 ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4v6f0q9I47w&feature=youtube_gdata
Fr4g3r

Defo not a joke lol and why ... its something different to try and if it is rubbish then I guess it won't be popular but Defo worth a go
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

FYI I mean windows 7 mobile to lol the xbox live part is what interests me the most
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Windows 7 is x86 if not x64 architecture and will not run on ARM based Systems.
And since its closed source nobody will bother.
So its not gonna happen.
If you like closed source buy Apple

More to the point, if you want windows mobile, buy an HD2.
And how about using the search button? This gets asked EVERY week.

Always someone moans about using the search button ... if you know the answer don't read the thread.
Ofcourse I don't want a HD2 otherwise my signature would say sent from hd2 all I wanted to.know is whether anyone would be able to get 7 to.run on the desire regardless of who likes it or what platform its meant for
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kai84m said:
Windows 7 is x86 if not x64 architecture and will not run on ARM based Systems.
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lol the OP was talking about windows mobile 7. not the desktop OS.

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if you know the answer don't read the thread.
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The answer is No.
Always someone moans about using the search button ...
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My point is if you used the search button we would not be having this pointless discussion, these threads are very repetitive to regulars and just add more clutter to the rom development section.

CountryMous3 said:
Probably a very silly question but I have to ask ;-)
Will Windows 7 ever be able to run on a rooted HTC desire ?
If so who's gonna have a go ...
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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That is indeed the most silly quesition u could come up with..
Are u one of the boys who want to brag around saying their phone is like the best, because its an android phone but it can also run other devices OS meaning u got like 2 or 3 phones in one??
I mean thats pretty lame. Go buy an HD2 and run android on it, or flash a rom stuffed with galaxy S wallpapers and themes and stuff.
You bought a desire.. thats like the ultimate gadget out there.. and ur still not happy with it? Go ask ur mommy and daddy to break the piggy bank, and post a thread saying "i'll pay 1500€ per developer, who will join the team in making win7 flashable on desire"
that should answer your "silly" question about IF and WHEN as well as WHO.
Sry but posts like this just piss me off.. WHY would you want a regular interior of VW Golf 1,9 TDI in a freaking Ferrari???
Thats what u wanna have with asking for win7 on a desire!

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Always someone moans about using the search button ... if you know the answer don't read the thread.
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Ofcourse we freakin' moan. We frequent XDA visitors see the same question posted over and over again by people who don't search.
If you had searched, you would also know the answer, just like those who read the rules when they sign up for XDA-Dev forums.
In the top of this very forum there is a simple thread called "Forum & Marketplace Rules".
And the first rule, to rule all the rest is:
1. Search before posting.
Use one of our search functions before posting, whether you have a question or something new to share, it's very likely someone already asked that question or shared that news.
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I'm pretty sure the "likely someone already asked that question" applies here.

roomkokos said:
Sry but posts like this just piss me off..
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You're not alone. Nobody seems to bother using search. Wish we had more mods. And mods that remind people about the rules. Three warnings and you're out would be nice.
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WHY would you want a regular interior of VW Golf 1,9 TDI in a freaking Ferrari??
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SPOT ON!

I cant understand why to buy an Android Phone when i need/like Winmob Features! Android is what it is not more not less! It do what it do if it not do what you want dont buy it!

st0kes said:
The answer is No.
My point is if you used the search button we would not be having this pointless discussion, these threads are very repetitive to regulars and just add more clutter to the rom development section.
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As are these sorts of posts moaning about search buttons. Ironic eh?

there are 2 main points that make this thread pointless!!!
1) porting windows mobile is not possible on an android phone!
2) (and the most important) even if it was possible, windows mobile isnt open source, none of us own a licence for windows phone 7, that would make it piracy and therefore illegal

Hold on a min folks!!
CountryMous3 asked a simple question wherther you think it stupid or not.
All you folk need to say is yes or no-go! There is absolutely no need to get all hotted up about someone asking what you feel is a stupid question.
Yes remind them of the search function, but hey were you born with the knowledge you now have??
@Daelyn
Are you suggesting the mods are not doing their job to your satisfaction? If the mods you talk about are to deal with noobs as harshly as you believe they should for failing to observe correct forum etiquette, then how much more should you and those who have treated a noobie as if they were a moron, be altogehter FORCEFULLY EJECTED from the site..knowledge and all! Y'all should know better!! It takes so-called 'stupid ' questions from a brave heart to carve new parts in uncharted territory!
Chew on that then flame me too if you must but you know you're all being unsavoury.

WP7 on Touch Pro 2

Mod Edit: Please read\search existing topics before posting in future - especially when the answer you are looking for is in a sticky: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=806199
How well does WP7 work on a HTC Touch Pro 2? With everyone who has installed it. Thanks

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How well does WP7 work on a HTC Touch Pro 2? With everyone who has installed it. Thanks
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anyone knows?
i'm also curious...

it don't work and it will never work to ( wrong cpu ) only snapdragon cpu's are capable of running wp7

Deep down inside I know it will never work, the other part of me wishes it could because Verizon will not have a WP7 till next year. Just want something to hold me over till VZW gets a cool one...

ceesheim said:
it don't work and it will never work to ( wrong cpu ) only snapdragon cpu's are capable of running wp7
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DavidinCT said:
Deep down inside I know it will never work, the other part of me wishes it could because Verizon will not have a WP7 till next year. Just want something to hold me over till VZW gets a cool one...
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Yeah, I wish It would work. I was planning to keep it as my project phone. It's just too bad. I just got a G2 and it's my first Android device ever. I feel like the TP2 was more hackable.. and I really hate to let it go. My windows mobile/phone days are over
I'm clueless with Android.. I don't know how their programming works, I don't understand how to unlock the img on the phone or even put it in boot loader mode or even root it, etc. It's like I still feel out of place.
Any of the rest of you in a situation like mine?

ACMilan07 said:
Yeah, I wish It would work. I was planning to keep it as my project phone. It's just too bad. I just got a G2 and it's my first Android device ever. I feel like the TP2 was more hackable.. and I really hate to let it go. My windows mobile/phone days are over
I'm clueless with Android.. I don't know how their programming works, I don't understand how to unlock the img on the phone or even put it in boot loader mode or even root it, etc. It's like I still feel out of place.
Any of the rest of you in a situation like mine?
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Almost. WinMo was really hackable.
Though I only played with Android on the Touch Pro 2, so it was glitchy.
I just hope somebody roots WP7 before HTC 7 Pro comes out.
*DROOL*
Bow that's a nice phone. Pity they only put 3.6" but still more than enough.

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There will be NOOOOOO devices capable to port WP7 to other than the HD2!!!
I am sorry guys, other than the HD2, there would be no possible ports of WP7 to any other devices. Unlike WM, WP7 has strict hardware requirements, and it being on other devices is highly unlikely and unreasonable to port to because of the limitations of previous devices.
Any dev want to chime in on my generalization, please PM me and I will add your post here.
So please don't ask for one, your post will be closed with out notice and further questions will result in bans.
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