[Q] Very confused on my options - T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4

I have a S4 - with 4.4.2 stock . Sadily ever since the update I had nothing but issues. Getting my 2nd replacement tomorrow to try and resolve this issue where the cell radio locks up and I have no connectivity .
At this point I am ready just say screw the warranty but I dont know what I can do as there so many threads it is very confusing.
Note at this point i dont care about tripping the efuse.
From what I have read is that I can root the phone. But where I am confused at is if I can load custom bootloader /roms I had a moto cliq2 with a locked boot loader that then eventually loaded a 2nd boot loader and then the rom.
Really if anyone can clear up where i stand on getting one of the 4.4.4 aosp roms on the phone I be greatly appreciated.

Bootloader is not locked on this device, so just flash custom recovery with Odin and flash your ROM

+1 serio... If you're not on the evil bastard vzw service, then:root, intstall custom recovery and flash what you want!! You're lucky enough to have a device that hasn't had its n-ts cut off!! I have sprint as a carrier, so I'm in the same boat as you, but I've been collecting phones from all carriers for a while now and since vzw has such a monopoly on the us, I've racked up about 9 vzw phones with locked bootloaders. You're actually quite in luck man. Root, install recovery, ROM, profit!

youdoofus said:
+1 serio... If you're not on the evil bastard vzw service, then:root, intstall custom recovery and flash what you want!! You're lucky enough to have a device that hasn't had its n-ts cut off!! I have sprint as a carrier, so I'm in the same boat as you, but I've been collecting phones from all carriers for a while now and since vzw has such a monopoly on the us, I've racked up about 9 vzw phones with locked bootloaders. You're actually quite in luck man. Root, install recovery, ROM, profit!
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Actually no root is needed. Just flash recovery with Odin and flash ROM

Fair point, as recovery supercedes root since its not within the os, but whats the fun of romming without rooting?
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youdoofus said:
Fair point, as recovery supercedes root since its not within the os, but whats the fun of romming without rooting?
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All custom ROMs come pre-rooted. So no reason to root the stock ROM, if all you will be doing is flashing a custom ROM. Just eliminates a step.
Rob

rlichtefeld said:
All custom ROMs come pre-rooted. So no reason to root the stock ROM, if all you will be doing is flashing a custom ROM. Just eliminates a step.
Rob
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Many people think you have to be rooted to flash a custom recovery, I think this is why they said that

serio22 said:
Actually no root is needed. Just flash recovery with Odin and flash ROM
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Ok so knox does not lock the boot loader just acts as a trigger for the annoying efuse.
Question still comes down to if I root install recovery and then flash or flash with oldin and not deal with the boot loader. I just got my 2nd replacement another one with 4.4.2 I give it a few days if it does not act up great if it does I just going to flash it .
As the current stock 4.4.2 has caused nothing but connectivity issues for me.

jawa78 said:
Ok so knox does not lock the boot loader just acts as a trigger for the annoying efuse.
Question still comes down to if I root install recovery and then flash or flash with oldin and not deal with the boot loader. I just got my 2nd replacement another one with 4.4.2 I give it a few days if it does not act up great if it does I just going to flash it .
As the current stock 4.4.2 has caused nothing but connectivity issues for me.
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Just forget the bootloader it is not locked, and no root is needed to flash recovery. Just flash custom recovery of your choice with Odin, reboot straight into recovery RIGHT after, and flash ROM
Edit: and yes pretty much the only thing that will happen is that your counter will be tripped

Just thought of something while flashing a new ROM on my nexus 7 flo. If all custom ROMs are rooted, why then is it then that when you flash some ROMs, root can break? I flashed a different ROM on the n7 and lost root until I went back and reran the exploit
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[Q] updating to UAMDL with root

I'm rooted with a custom recovery running M919UVUAMDB. Is there an easy way for me to update to M919UVUAMDL. When I tried the ota it said my phone has been modified and wouldn't proceed. I've been reading about people having issues rooting their phone after the they updated, so I'm thinking it may not be worth it to update at this time. I'm hoping I can just flash somthing to bring my phone up to date without the root blocking that was implemented in UAMDL. I have been having some issues and hope the update would resolve them. Can someone steer me in the right direction please? Thanks
electricjelly said:
I'm rooted with a custom recovery running M919UVUAMDB. Is there an easy way for me to update to M919UVUAMDL. When I tried the ota it said my phone has been modified and wouldn't proceed. I've been reading about people having issues rooting their phone after the they updated, so I'm thinking it may not be worth it to update at this time. I'm hoping I can just flash somthing to bring my phone up to date without the root blocking that was implemented in UAMDL. I have been having some issues and hope the update would resolve them. Can someone steer me in the right direction please? Thanks
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I have the same question.
As do I. I'm thinking it'll be a flash via Kies, then re-flash TWRP, install the custom kernel and re-root.
darkjedi said:
As do I. I'm thinking it'll be a flash via Kies, then re-flash TWRP, install the custom kernel and re-root.
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Don't be lazy guys there are roms floating that are MDL and stock rooted.. it takes literally 1 mins to search for them...
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aLdaRiS said:
Don't be lazy guys there are roms floating that are MDL and stock rooted.. it takes literally 1 mins to search for them...
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I thought some of the stock rooted firmwares were zipped and could be flashed via recovery.... (why I didn't think of doing this on the old GS4 I have no idea, prolly because I wanted to keep my recovery stock -shrug-)
Either way wouldn't you need to get Triangle Away?
adventure_of_link said:
I thought some of the stock rooted firmwares were zipped and could be flashed via recovery.... (why I didn't think of doing this on the old GS4 I have no idea, prolly because I wanted to keep my recovery stock -shrug-)
Either way wouldn't you need to get Triangle Away?
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I'm not sure what you're taking about lol
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aLdaRiS said:
I'm not sure what you're taking about lol
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...in other words, isn't it possible to find a custom firmware that you can flash through recovery? (or since this is Samsung land, is this all through Odin? I remember on my Evo 3D I could find new custom firmwares in zip files and flash from recovery.)
and Triangle Away resets some kind of counter specific to some Samsung phones relating to custom firmwares.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.triangleaway&hl=en
adventure_of_link said:
...in other words, isn't it possible to find a custom firmware that you can flash through recovery? (or since this is Samsung land, is this all through Odin? I remember on my Evo 3D I could find new custom firmwares in zip files and flash from recovery.)
and Triangle Away resets some kind of counter specific to some Samsung phones relating to re-installs.
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he said he's already rooted and already has a custom recovery... so basically he needs to find a rom that is stock MDL but rooted(there are 2 in the and development forum) and flash it. that's it. I'm not sure why they wanted to update through Odin it kinda makes no sense.. cos they it'd be stock uprooted and then they'd have to root it again. AFAIK triangle away it's only used to reset the counter on the bootloader to see that you haven't installed any custom recoveries which you would only need if you were to send the phone back to tmo to have it exchanged. Otherwise you don't really need Odin unless you **** up a flash and then need to bring it back to stock fw and then root it again and do the whole process basically ODIN brings your phone back from a soft brick.
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aLdaRiS said:
Don't be lazy guys there are roms floating that are MDL and stock rooted.. it takes literally 1 mins to search for them...
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Has nothing to do with lazy. I ended up upgrading via Kies, flashing the custom kernel and then rooting.

[Q] CWM after Knox????

My wife's S3 got the OTA before I had heard of the Knox problem.
Her phone has some major issues after the update & I am trying to find a way to fix it.
I flashed the MK3 all in one ordered Rom posted by Thunder Stick on my S3 & it seems great so far.
My question is: since she already has Knox on her phone, can I put CWM or PhilZ on her's so I can flash the same rom I put on my phone, or will this cause Knox issues? I'm not worried about the warranty counter, just worried about bricking it.
Any input is welcomed.
Thanks y'all
monke30butt said:
My wife's S3 got the OTA before I had heard of the Knox problem.
Her phone has some major issues after the update & I am trying to find a way to fix it.
I flashed the MK3 all in one ordered Rom posted by Thunder Stick on my S3 & it seems great so far.
My question is: since she already has Knox on her phone, can I put CWM or PhilZ on her's so I can flash the same rom I put on my phone, or will this cause Knox issues? I'm not worried about the warranty counter, just worried about bricking it.
Any input is welcomed.
Thanks y'all
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As long as you don't downgrade the bootloader, Read whole 1st POST HERE
joeyhdownsouth said:
As long as you don't downgrade the bootloader, Read whole 1st POST HERE
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I have read that a few times already. I think what I am unclear on is about the difference between the boot loader & recovery. I was thinking that CWM would replace the boot loader & that is what I was worried about. So, if I have it straight now, the CWM & flashable Rom of MK3 will not replace the boot loader? You need a tar to do the bootloader? So will it matter if the rom has had Knox taken out or should I look for one with knox? I was hoping to use the All In One Rom, but it has no Knox.
Sorry to be a pest guys
monke30butt said:
I have read that a few times already. I think what I am unclear on is about the difference between the boot loader & recovery. I was thinking that CWM would replace the boot loader & that is what I was worried about. So, if I have it straight now, the CWM & flashable Rom of MK3 will not replace the boot loader? You need a tar to do the bootloader? So will it matter if the rom has had Knox taken out or should I look for one with knox? I was hoping to use the All In One Rom, but it has no Knox.
Sorry to be a pest guys
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CWM will replace the stock Android recovery. Yes, a tar file can downgrade the bootloader. you can flash any ROM as long you do not downgrade the bootloader.
Thanks Joey

Root JB 4.3 without voiding warranty

alrights guys I didn't see this anywhere in ur forum so here it is, after exchanging my s4 for a replacement, I got it with 4.3 and all this Knox nonsense already installed, Now I don't really care that much for samsung's warranty but I went out and look for a way to root our latest without triggering Knox counter just head on to the thread below and check it out... it has a catch but I would say it's worth the trade off.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758
lol Dude, we just discussed this in another forum and this has been discussed in many forums. :silly:
Anyways... I've used this Verizon method on my buddies ATT Galaxy S4 with a locked bootloader on a 4.3 MK2 baseband. It does not trip the KNOX flag. There are no "trade-offs." It functions well. Chainfires AutoRoot works as well.
So with this method you cannot make a nandroid backup OR even restore one?
HTCMDA said:
So with this method you cannot make a nandroid backup OR even restore one?
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I have not tried to make a nandroid with a locked BL and will try tomorrow (damn sure it won't work). Best bet is to try Online Nandroid Manager. Nandroid backups require a custom recovery, it has nothing to do with having root.
Ive been out of the rooting world for a while, but with research, Ive caught up a little. However I do have a couple of questions;
With this method, can I still install a custom vanilla rom with 4.3/4.4?
If not, what are the benefits?
knipp21 said:
Ive been out of the rooting world for a while, but with research, Ive caught up a little. However I do have a couple of questions;
With this method, can I still install a custom vanilla rom with 4.3/4.4?
If not, what are the benefits?
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No, this will only root your phone (give your apps su/superuser access). You will still need to flash a custom recovery (i.e., PhilZ, TWRP, CWM) to flash roms like a custom Vanilla ROM. If you are on 4.2.2 bootloader, you can simply flash a custom recovery and flash the ROM. If you are on 4.3, you will be on the KNOX bootloader and if you flash a custom recovery to flash the ROM, you will void your KNOX warranty. If you don't care about the warranty or has expired, there is no difference.
1) Download Vanilla Rom,
2) Flash custom recovery tar (i.e., PhilZ, TWRP, CWM).
3) Go into recovery and flash rom.
4) ????
5) ??
6) Profit.
xdapowerapps said:
No, this will only root your phone (give your apps su/superuser access). You will still need to flash a custom recovery (i.e., PhilZ, TWRP, CWM) to flash roms like a custom Vanilla ROM. If you are on 4.2.2 bootloader, you can simply flash a custom recovery and flash the ROM. If you are on 4.3, you will be on the KNOX bootloader and if you flash a custom recovery to flash the ROM, you will void your KNOX warranty. If you don't care about the warranty or has expired, there is no difference.
1) Download Vanilla Rom,
2) Flash custom recovery tar (i.e., PhilZ, TWRP, CWM).
3) Go into recovery and flash rom.
4) ????
5) ??
6) Profit.
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I dont really care about the warranty, if its samsung and not t mobile.. But that isnt a def answer yet.
And ok, I guess Ill hunt the threads to see how to install the recovery. Thanks man
knipp21 said:
I dont really care about the warranty, if its samsung and not t mobile.. But that isnt a def answer yet.
And ok, I guess Ill hunt the threads to see how to install the recovery. Thanks man
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Well, even some of the T-Mobile apps now recognize if you have root and could possibly use that as proof that you voided your warranty. Tmobile/Samsung, vice versa, won't be much difference. You'd just have to find a store person that isn't knowledgeable on the subject and get a replacement. Good luck.
yea about that!
Yea I notice after I posted LOL.. a and here I was thinking I found the "holy grail" of rooting LOL!! but anyway those that Need to know just like it has been said.. this will get u rooted with out triggering Knox. this only applies to those that upgraded OTA or got their S4 already with JB 4.3 in it.. like I did after a warranty exchange... HOWEVER if u install any Custom Recovery u will trigger the counter VOIDING ur warranty FOREVER!!! LOL well maybe not but at least til someone (and who knows if someone ever will) figures Knox out. So think twice before you do anything, cause no here will take responsability for your actions...
HAPPY FLASHIN!!
Just did this to my T-Mobile SGS4. It worked just as described. The Knox counter wasn't tripped, but Custom is indicated on the Download screen (Vol Down+Home+Power).
Here's what my Download screen now says:
ODIN MODE
PRODUCT NAME: SGH-M919
CURRENT BINARY: Samsung Official
SYSTEM STATUS: Custom
KNOX KERNEL LOCK: 0x0
KNOX WARRANTY VOID: 0x0
CSB-CONFIG-LSB: 0x30
WRITE PROTECTION: Enable
eMMC BURST MODE: enabled
Thanks for the link to the other thread. :good:
Now I can use Titanium Backup, Greenify, ADB - rooted, esFile Explorer - rooted. Not needing a Custom Rom or Custom Recovery yet. And, to get it back to un-rooted, there are instructions in the other thread about that.
Rob
rlichtefeld said:
Just did this to my T-Mobile SGS4. It worked just as described. The Knox counter wasn't tripped, but Custom is indicated on the Download screen (Vol Down+Home+Power).
Here's what my Download screen now says:
ODIN MODE
PRODUCT NAME: SGH-M919
CURRENT BINARY: Samsung Official
SYSTEM STATUS: Custom
KNOX KERNEL LOCK: 0x0
KNOX WARRANTY VOID: 0x0
CSB-CONFIG-LSB: 0x30
WRITE PROTECTION: Enable
eMMC BURST MODE: enabled
Thanks for the link to the other thread. :good:
Now I can use Titanium Backup, Greenify, ADB - rooted, esFile Explorer - rooted. Not needing a Custom Rom or Custom Recovery yet. And, to get it back to un-rooted, there are instructions in the other thread about that.
Rob
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Just remember, you won't be able to make full nandroid backups (give Online Nandroid Manager a shot if you want to try).
xdapowerapps said:
Just remember, you won't be able to make full nandroid backups (give Online Nandroid Manager a shot if you want to try).
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IFAIK, until I plan to flash a custom ROM I shouldn't need a full Nandroid. I can always flash a stock ROM, and between the Google Backup/Restore and TiB, I should get almost everything back. Music/Video, etc are all on the MicroSD.
Unless I'm sadly mistaken. This is my first foray into messing with the SGS4. I was very active flashing on my HTC HD2, starting with various builds for WM6.5, and then moving on to SD builds of Android and then NativeSD with cLK, etc. I was running Tytung's KitKat until I got this phone in December. I work for a small company and the SGS4 was my Christmas Bonus. The HD2 was just too long in tooth to keep up with all the advances in Android. But, since you could flash everything - radios, bootloaders, recoveries, builds, etc., I could change out/update my version of Android almost daily.
Rob
rlichtefeld said:
IFAIK, until I plan to flash a custom ROM I shouldn't need a full Nandroid. I can always flash a stock ROM, and between the Google Backup/Restore and TiB, I should get almost everything back. Music/Video, etc are all on the MicroSD.
Unless I'm sadly mistaken. This is my first foray into messing with the SGS4. I was very active flashing on my HTC HD2, starting with various builds for WM6.5, and then moving on to SD builds of Android and then NativeSD with cLK, etc. I was running Tytung's KitKat until I got this phone in December. I work for a small company and the SGS4 was my Christmas Bonus. The HD2 was just too long in tooth to keep up with all the advances in Android. But, since you could flash everything - radios, bootloaders, recoveries, builds, etc., I could change out/update my version of Android almost daily.
Rob
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The beauty of a nandroid backup is that it takes a snapshot of your phone as it stands. Within five to eight minutes, you can restore your phone as it stood before it messed up. No re-downloading apps, changing settings, replacing system apps (i.e., installing Note 3 My Files and Gallery), etc. It saves the hassles of slow TiB/Helium restoration, especially if you have hundreds of apps. Sure, you can start fresh and manually restore things, but having it done within eight minutes without lifting a finger is extremely nice to have in your arsenal. Has come in handy several times for me since I test ROMs very frequently.
Congrats on your bonus, a very nice bonus indeed. It is a great phone. I was thinking about switching to a Note 3 or waiting for the S5 but this phone is perfect for my hands. Note 3 with an Otterbox Defender case is too big for my taste and the S5 is still a ways off. Plus, the development for this phone has far exceeded my expectations so I'm a happy camper for now.
xdapowerapps said:
No, this will only root your phone (give your apps su/superuser access). You will still need to flash a custom recovery (i.e., PhilZ, TWRP, CWM) to flash roms like a custom Vanilla ROM. If you are on 4.2.2 bootloader, you can simply flash a custom recovery and flash the ROM. If you are on 4.3, you will be on the KNOX bootloader and if you flash a custom recovery to flash the ROM, you will void your KNOX warranty. If you don't care about the warranty or has expired, there is no difference.
1) Download Vanilla Rom,
2) Flash custom recovery tar (i.e., PhilZ, TWRP, CWM).
3) Go into recovery and flash rom.
4) ????
5) ??
6) Profit.
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What method did you use to install a custom recovery? I saw this in the thread:
Important - please read
If you fail to read this, you will be taunted.
1. You can't install custom recovery and custom ROMs using this technique. See Safestrap for a way to install some custom ROMs.
2. Resetting the "Custom" and open padlock indication during boot can be worked around using the Xposed Framwork and Wanam Xposed. Get those two from the Play Store.
In Wanam, tick "Security Hacks", "Fake System Status".
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Did you use the safestrap like he suggested? I just got a replacement from t-mobile, i can't be stuck on tw lol.
root is still better then no root lol thank you for the info.
This is all great info, on rooting 4.3....
but how do you UNROOT ?
Xx_Joe_Wireless_xX said:
This is all great info, on rooting 4.3....
but how do you UNROOT ?
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Go into SuperSU, then click permanent cleanup.
You have to make sure busy box is removed as well, or system will show custom
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Is there a way to get back to the stock rom???
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KRAZYADROIDMASTER said:
Is there a way to get back to the stock rom???
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If the only mod you did was to follow the instructions in this thread, then you aren't changing the ROM, you are only giving yourself Root privileges.
To Unroot, go to the thread in the original post, and look at the second message in that thread.
Here's the link to that exact message:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48392024&postcount=2
You will be
1) removing BusyBox
2) Using SuperSU to "Full Unroot"
If you've done more than was laid out in the original message in that thread, then you will probably need to
3) Remove any Custom Recovery
4) Flash an original ROM
There are several threads discussing getting back to a Stock ROM.
Rob

questions about knox

So i have some questions about knox. I'm new to it and sadly had the 4.3 bootloader thrust upon me.
1. Is there a way to remove it/return to a different bootloader? Not just hide it like Billards thing does
2. One way I restore my phone if it freaks out is to run a 1 click stock rooted ljc program. I was reading in a Verizon forum flashing a stock version will brick my phone does this apply for sprint? They said mk3 not mk4
3.if I no longer can use that and need to fix say a soft Brick with no recovery what should I use/do
4. What are the main things i need to be aware or with knox?
I've been reading around and all I'm finding is its security. I know that it's bootloader related but every time I odin a tar file I didn't know that affected a the bootloader. This knox cap has me not even wanting to touch my phone.
Any help would be appreciated and you will get your thanks
Anyone?
I thought all this to but I took the plunge to root and did so with kingo root it went flawless and upon boring l booting just open super su and it will ask you if you want to disable knox just click Yea and you're done and to flash roms flash philz touch recovery with odin and make sure to make a backup is stock and flash away
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[Q] Help Softbricked my phone.

I got my Note 2 about 6 days ago and was on firmware 4.3 I noticed that the battery was draining very fast so I looked around online and found
4.3 had this problem so I updated the firmware to 4.2.2.After a day or so I got fed up with touchwiz and said screw it im going to root my
phone.so I started getting the note 2 ready to root this went fine I was able to boot up my phone with twrp. So then I made a backup through twrp
just in case I screwed up my phone. I then Flashed CM11 to the phone but it failed so I tried wiping the caches and it failed again. I then try
Booting it up but it is stuck on the Samsung logo. So I turn it off and said no big deal I got the backup I can flash so I try to flash that but it fails to
but after this I notice my Knox security is void.so im wondering is the Knox security causing the problem. Because after I did this I did some
Research and It said that It would void my warranty and it had an efuse? What exactly does this Knox voided warranty mean does it mean my
Is useless can or can I still flash roms to it ? And If so how would I go about doing this because im all out off ideas.
Flash this using Odin to get the phone back. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=53353625
Then use philz 6.07.09 and not twrp. That's where the problem started.
Thanks
jrebo said:
Flash this using Odin to get the phone back. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=53353625
Then use philz 6.07.09 and not twrp. That's where the problem started.
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Thanks so much my phone is now running stock touchwiz 4.4.2 but I would like to know if you have any suggestions for roms?
ace362 said:
Thanks so much my phone is now running stock touchwiz 4.4.2 but I would like to know if you have any suggestions for roms?
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It's really personal preference so you have to flash everything that's out there to see which one you like. I'm a flash a holic so I tend to flash anything new and will change between touchwiz and non-tw ROMs based on my mood that day. Enjoy!
bootloader?
Just one more thing I read somewhere that the Verizon note 2 was the only note 2 with a locked boot loader .If this is not true could you tell me how to unlocked it because I feel like I looked everywhere.

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