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Is it a good buy ?

Currently i have an lg g2 but it has a defective screen. Im looking for another phone on the price range of 200. I can get the fire phone which i actually pretty intrested in or i can get the huawei ascend mate 2 or another lg g2 in brand new condition. I dont mind the amazon fire os and im leaning to the fire phone but what do you guys think ?

It's super easy to install Google services and while we have had to deal with our Google stuff going down for a couple of weeks when they updated, everything has been fine since then. If you use prime services it's a no Brainerd because the current cost is 179 and if u were going to get prime it's basically a 80 dollar phone. I don't regret it and I've been a strictly android user since I got the google g1 many years ago. I don't even mind the Amazon launcher. You just have to get used to the swype up for back and Netflix isn't working with chromecast.

It depends how you are going to use your phone, I'm on my second fire phone, sold the first because it was running android 4.2 and Android Wear needs 4.3 at least to work, now that the KitKat update is here, I gave it another go, bought used cheap on eBay, £95, the reason for this, really like the build quality, screen, specs and camera, really good pics in low light. I had the G2 as well and the fire camera is just a bit better IMO.
Now the negatives
The screen is a bit too tiny, awesome for one hand use, but I prefer the 5"+ screens.
No notifications icon on the status bar, if you have any missed notifications, you have to pull down the notifications to see them, that is why having a android wear device is essential if you don't want to miss any notification.
G2 Battery is better, fire phone does last a full day, but G2 is awesome when it comes to battery life.
This is a big one for me, no custom ROMs, I'm using Google Now Launcher to make it more like a pure android phone, but miss flashing custom ROMs
Tip:
If you are going to sideload Google Play Store, please have this in mind, search first for the app on the amazon store, if you can't find it there, than use the play store, had some issues before by doing this... also disable auto update from Play store, because Facebook for example, it has to be the Amazon App store version, just a couple of things to keep in mind if you want a stable phone =)
So if you want a different phone from most people, great build quality, compact, fast, good camera, this is for you, if you want a phone tried and tested, with a big screen and with with custom ROMs, than go for the G2

I got one brand new for £99 in the Amazon sale recently. It's good spec but I like tweaking my setup with custom launchers etc and it isn't too good for that. I'm using the stock fire OS launcher but I've got a gesture app installed now and a t9 launcher assigned to it and all sorts of other crap. Other launchers generally throw up issues I've found. If you're into Amazon for kindle and prime video it's probably worth it. By the way, do uk users get the one year free prime? I didn't see anything when I ordered!

hugoprh said:
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If you are going to sideload Google Play Store, please have this in mind, search first for the app on the amazon store, if you can't find it there, than use the play store, had some issues before by doing this... also disable auto update from Play store, because Facebook for example, it has to be the Amazon App store version, just a couple of things to keep in mind if you want a stable phone =)
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Why do you say so? I've installed every app from play store without collateral effects, even Facebook. And i have play store auto updates enabled and working too. What problems did you have with FB taken from play store?

Well amazon took the offer of 179 away so i guess im going for the lg g2. Really wanted the fire phone but i need a phone now and i was going to buy it Friday. Does anyone know how often amazon put the fire phone on sale?
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i love it, but i came from a s2, so it was a massive upgrade for me

FB was one of the apps, the issue I saw with some apps, was the icon would simply disappear from the Amazon launcher and the only way to open the app, was going to play store, search the app and press "open" through there, so I did a factory reset and disabled updates from play store and now all good, weird that you did not experience that and I did...

Wow can't believe it, $450 now. Anyway I love my fire phone. I use Google now launcher with gel customized, software keys via udn app, of course I use the play store and rooted with a proper superuser.

A Question Before I Buy Amazon Fire Phone

i have a question, i am planning to buy this phone but i am very much relying on google stuff these days , i made a back up of almost everything on google , this phone does not have google store but i heard i can install google store in it and it works like a charm .. i don't know if i would be able to get my android games saved progress or will i have to start the games from amazon store all over again . does it have apk system ? what about my contacts on google , will they sync with the system contacts ?
thank you :laugh:
any tips would be appreciated

hi there,
most stuff from "original google" will probably work.
save games should also if you backup your data and restore the folder on the fire back (after APK installation/google store install). Saved states from google play also work.
Some differences appear in fire system ui but this is not a strange thing. Replace the fire starter with nova launcher e.g. and all is good
Contact/calendar from google acc will also work as usual.
nice day

fniestroj said:
hi there,
most stuff from "original google" will probably work.
save games should also if you backup your data and restore the folder on the fire back (after APK installation/google store install). Saved states from google play also work.
Some differences appear in fire system ui but this is not a strange thing. Replace the fire starter with nova launcher e.g. and all is good
Contact/calendar from google acc will also work as usual.
nice day
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Thank you :laugh::good:

my general recommendation is Don't buy this phone. my reasons are:
-You are stuck on Andriod KitKat while world prepares for Android N(7.0)
-No current/ further software support.
-Yes you will get google services and everything but they are not reliable. My phone doesn't gives me essential notifications on Whatsapp and messenger until i manually open them and check it.
-Camera doesn't matches the Quality you will find in newer phones.
-Battery life is not Great, 2400 mAh doesn't guarantee a full day.
-its bulky, you dont want a brick in your pocket but upside, this phone is solid af.
-Anyone who sees this phone is going to ask "are all those Front cameras?" and your whole life will be consumed in explaining its 3d features.
-if you think Installing CM11 will smooth the software part(atleast) then you are wrong, Everything works great but camera doesn't, photos taken with Flash are overexposed(there is a work around though) and most of the apps can not use camera, even i was not even able to scan QR code for Whatsapp web because it will just crash and snapchat never worked aswell.
-if you are thinking i will get SnapDragon 800 in few bucks , this is what i thought too but the headaches it bring is not worth SD800.
-if you already have a phone and you want a secondary phone, it still isn't worth it. Probably get Nexus 5 which offers much better solutions.
This is my experience and honest Advice.

Tayyab.Hasan said:
my general recommendation is Don't buy this phone. my reasons are:
-You are stuck on Andriod KitKat while world prepares for Android N(7.0)true
-No current/ further software support.99,99% true
-Yes you will get google services and everything but they are not reliable. My phone doesn't gives me essential notifications on Whatsapp and messenger until i manually open them and check it. it's not my case, I receive gmail, whatsapp, messenger, calendar, facebook, twitter, all sort of notifications. it doesn't need the app stays open in foreground, just don't fully close it swiping it away in recent apps menu.
-Camera doesn't matches the Quality you will find in newer phones. true, it's fine for social
-Battery life is not Great, 2400 mAh doesn't guarantee a full day. true, but depends...
-its bulky, you dont want a brick in your pocket but upside, this phone is solid af. true but sadly there aren't many truly smaller phone today, except iphone SE or z5 comapct, which are pricey
-Anyone who sees this phone is going to ask "are all those Front cameras?" and your whole life will be consumed in explaining its 3d features. who cares?
-if you think Installing CM11 will smooth the software part(atleast) then you are wrong, Everything works great but camera doesn't, photos taken with Flash are overexposed(there is a work around though) and most of the apps can not use camera, even i was not even able to scan QR code for Whatsapp web because it will just crash and snapchat never worked aswell. true, better stay on stock with google now launcher
-if you are thinking i will get SnapDragon 800 in few bucks , this is what i thought too but the headaches it bring is not worth SD800. they are annoying, but if you play many games, adreno 330 and HD display it's a great combo. To find something better in you need something like adreno 418 or 430 on a full hd display
-if you already have a phone and you want a secondary phone, it still isn't worth it. Probably get Nexus 5 which offers much better solutions. depends, i use it as primary phone and I'm fine, i'd be very happy to use it as secondary phone
This is my experience and honest Advice.
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theprov said:
it's not my case, I receive gmail, whatsapp, messenger, calendar, facebook, twitter, all sort of notifications. it doesn't need the app stays open in foreground, just don't fully close it swiping it away in recent apps menu.
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then it will eat battery life. but none the less it is not reliable.
-I think investing in SE or Z5 compact is better than keeping an old phone.
-I think Nexus 5x is great performer for its price. SD808 Adreno 418, was for $250.
-I also use it as my primary phone and i too will happily use it as secondary if i dont sell it.( although i dont like the concept of secondary phone, better to invest in 1 then having 2) , if someone have an option who is looking for secondary better get Nexus 5, which got the same specs and Android Marshmallow out of box.

Best Current Advice for new Fire Phone user? (battery life, reduce heat, carousel)

Just starting out with the Fire Phone, unlocked version being used with T-Mobile.
Found the YouTube instructional video for loading the Google Play Store and got it to work fine after about 27 updates to the phone and store downloaded.
After trying a half dozen different launchers, went back to the stock version as seemed to work the smoothest and couldn't get any others to do what I wanted anyway.
Questions for current users:
1. Phone gets warmer than any phone I've used before. Is this normal?
2. Any way to dock a useful time/date widget and a weather widget on the home screen (or front of the Carousel)?
3. Any way to get rid of or minimize the mostly useless Carousel without using a different launcher? I'd rather see my wallpaper and place a few icons around the screen, then it'd be perfect.
4. If no way to remove the Carousel without using a different launcher, is there a launcher that gives a simple, clean interface and the ability to have your own wallpaper, a date/time and weather widget on home screen, and standard icon and icon folder placement ability? None of the ones I tried gave me that. I find it bizarre that custom wallpaper is not a standard option on every single launcher.
5. Battery life is pretty bad. Walking around for just about two hours yesterday playing Pokemon Go drained my 100% battery entirely. Is that normal?
6. I'm seeing people mention "turning off fancy stuff" and the like in threads here to improve battery life, but cannot find where anyone says what specifically to turn off or how to turn it off...help?
7. Any way to customize the left-hand tilt menu? It is mostly useless links...the "Music" link doesn't even go to Prime Music -- what's up with that? I'd like to customize what gets launched from the links, but it seems impossible.
8. The "swipe up" back button feature is really annoying as it is so picky and just plain doesn't work in some situations and some apps. Any way to improve it?
9. Any way to tell what apps are currently running to close some? My last phone would show the list if you held down the main button, but this phone just brings up a microphone service when I do that.
10. Is Alexa on the Fire Phone a junior version? It can't do anything I ask it and I'm used to Alexa from my Fire TV. I want to do stuff like "Alexa Play Adele" or "Alexa What Time is It?" but it just shows the "I can't do that" text. (On a related point...any way to get the "Okay Google..." talking function?)
11. Is the GPS a bit weak? Maps don't always load, rather annoying.
12. When I'm talking on the phone, I can't figure out how to get the screen to turn on again if I have to enter numbers, change speakerphone, or check something. Others phones just automatically turn on when I take it away from my ear, but the screen just stays off with this one. Is there a button to push to get it turn on again?
My primary uses for the phone are Prime Music, the Camera, and texting, so it is really a great phone for me. With more reliable mapping, better battery life, and a good back button, it'd be an excellent phone despite the other above gripes.
If you can help with any of the above questions, that'd be great. Thanks!

Stock launcher very restrictive you'll need a third party one to have custom options. That's not as easy as it sounds as not all support widgets on fire phone. I use lucid launcher which does. Mine doesn't heat up much, and battery life is the best I've had on a phone. Double click button for running app display.

try install custom rom like MIUI, I am using MIUI in my fire phone and its really fun... apart from few minor bugs like switching camera it's a great rom, boost battery time, heat up problem solved and very fast rom as compare to stock rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-phone/general/miui-7-6-3-20-fire-phone-t3412344

ratbags said:
Stock launcher very restrictive you'll need a third party one to have custom options. That's not as easy as it sounds as not all support widgets on fire phone. I use lucid launcher which does. Mine doesn't heat up much, and battery life is the best I've had on a phone. Double click button for running app display.
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Thanks, I'll look at Lucid Launcher -- wasn't one of the ones I tried.

kingtymur said:
try install custom rom like MIUI, I am using MIUI in my fire phone and its really fun... apart from few minor bugs like switching camera it's a great rom, boost battery time, heat up problem solved and very fast rom as compare to stock rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-phone/general/miui-7-6-3-20-fire-phone-t3412344
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Unfortunately, if I'm understanding other threads, camera function is iffy for everything except FireOS. Since the most important part of this phone is the camera for me (tied with messaging), it looks like I need to stick to stock on that.
Frustrating though as I really like the look of that MIUI 7 you linked. I wish I had time to give it a shot just to see if the camera is still good enough.
Thanks.

FeuerFon said:
Thanks, I'll look at Lucid Launcher -- wasn't one of the ones I tried.
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I'm using nova and widgets work fine as long as you move the app to /system, but you'll need root for that.

dato02 said:
I'm using nova and widgets work fine as long as you move the app to /system, but you'll need root for that.
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Which unfortunately means camera issues on the Fire, so not good for my situation. :/

FeuerFon said:
Which unfortunately means camera issues on the Fire, so not good for my situation. :/
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Root itself doesn't cause issues with the camera, it's roms other than stock.

Try Nova Launcher With Hd Packs...

One week in: My so-so experience. (Any tips, tricks, etc?)

(Sorry in advance for the super long post)
So, I bought an ATT Unlocked 32GB Fire Phone new for only $80 (free shipping) on Ebay and I've been using it for exactly one week now, and my experience has been so-so. I LOVED the fireos UI on the kindle fire tablets but once I started using it on the smaller screen with the fire phone, I found it to be very cluttered, inefficient, and none of my side loaded apps show up in the UI.
So, two days in I hacked play store and 1mobile market onto the phone and downloaded ZenUi launcher from Asus (which works fantastic on Fire Phone), and now I've been liking the general UI experience. But I've been having a few other minor annoyances about this phone, mostly related to things simply not working.
Heres my biggest annoyance: The facebook suite of apps hardly work. This is a problem for me, because my friends and family, all of them communicate over Facebook, and since Facebook thinks its such a FANTASTIC idea to force you to have messenger to read and send messages (no more messaging through the mobile site), I pretty much HAVE to have messenger. My problem though, is that the facebook app crashes alot on Fire Phone, and messenger is doing the same thing. I had to download all of these through play store because the normal Facebook app isn't even on Amazon App Store, and the messenger app is several versions outdated on the store (apparently they abandoned the platform?), So now, I am basically fighting these to apps to work.
Another problem is Play Services. I am not sure whats going on, but no matter what guide I follow (the one here on XDA, the one on spinyourfire and the one on rootjunkies), after a few resets or after just a few days, play services "break" and any and all apps relying on play services (like snapchat, google apps, etc) refuse to work. So when that happens, I have to purge it all relating to Google and redownload. This is REALLY annoying, because Snapchat is another app I use alot for communications and since Play Services keeps doing this, its becoming really difficult.
Tumblr isn't working either. I guess since the browser version works just fine and unlike facebook you aren't required to have their apps, thats not a MAJOR problem. Now, several other communication apps that I HAVE to sideload, like Badoo, OOvoo and some other chat apps aren't working either no matter what I try.
This being a "Communication" device, I am having a very hard time "Communicating" when this is happening. This is really making me upset because I absolutely LOVE the design of the device, the camera is acceptable, I LOVE firefly and the 3D support, and the specs for the price are fantastic. (How many phones have NFC, 3D, good cameras, 32GB ON BOARD space for $80 new?), but with all these problems, I am highly considering sending the phone back to the vendor and buying something else, and I really don't want to! Games run GREAT on here, like GTA Sanandreas, Sims Freeplay, and Fallout Shelter. The camera works great and like I said, I already am in love with Firefly. But I am upset that all the essential apps pretty much need sideloaded since it seems everyone is abandoning Fire Phone, and side loading isn't working.
I should also mention that I did try CM11 and pretty much right away switched back to fireOS because the cameras were not working. Does anyone have any suggestions for me? Thank you!

For me google services works fine, one month of using fire phone and I have dust in back camera. So this is the problem for me, and fire os 5.

Are you on the latest update of fireOS? i only switched to the MIUI ROM recently but for the past couple of months when i was still on fireOS, play store and messenger(from play store) have been working fine with no issues. Also please ensure that if you are using google play to take of automatic updates in the amazon store. From experience apps tend to break if not updated from the original source.

for Facebook try using swipe (just search for it in play store). I'm having problems with messenger myself (no notifications) but with swipe i have no problems.

ozan2 said:
For me google services works fine, one month of using fire phone and I have dust in back camera. So this is the problem for me, and fire os 5.
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I had that as well. Thankfully I was able to get it to move by tapping it.
romario3600 said:
Are you on the latest update of fireOS? i only switched to the MIUI ROM recently but for the past couple of months when i was still on fireOS, play store and messenger(from play store) have been working fine with no issues. Also please ensure that if you are using google play to take of automatic updates in the amazon store. From experience apps tend to break if not updated from the original source.
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I am on the latest release of Fire OS and the latest google services files. Nothing. I have auto updates off and I am selectively updating. I can't update SnapChat because everytime I do, it breaks.
dato02 said:
for Facebook try using swipe (just search for it in play store). I'm having problems with messenger myself (no notifications) but with swipe i have no problems.
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I tried Swipe and it opens a black screen then closes quickly, sadly.

I'm loving mine after installing Google play and I've downloaded all the apps I want through there and not through Amazon appstore. I'm using Nova Launcher and it's pretty much a nice Android experience now. Not many 4.7" android phones with these great specs I got my 64GB for $100. This thing isn't a budget phone by any means. Snapchat also works just fine. Screen quality reminds me of iPhone 6s.

No issues anymore with fire os 4.6.6.1 and current versions of FB and messenger from play store.

Just ordered the Tab S4...any tips for a new owner?

Aside from installing Vanced youtube...I am not sure I need root anymore. Weird to say that as I was big into custom ROMs, root, overclocking my phones back in the day
Anyway, mostly using this to replace my aging original Tab S 10.5 which is now been used inside my PC to display CPU speeds, temps, etc.
It was lagging with EMBY and other things even with custom ROMs but I am glad I was able to find a new home for it to be useful.
Thanks for any feedback!

Same boat, I was really into root and other tweaks, now I'll get frustrated if I have to spend much time getting the experience I supposedly paid for. I actually just browse this forums in hopes of an update on next oneUI versions since they seem to have fixed some of the small caveats I find with the current version; sadly we are probably never going to get it though.
Anyway, the tab is beautiful and fast, and it will do most of the things you are expecting without losing a beat. To get the most out of it I would recommend getting the "good lock" apps to further personalize your experience (I wish someone told me about these before since I used the device for a month before finding them). The one hand operation(together with navigating gestures), the task changer(smaller more manageable app changer menu and initializing apps in floating mode from there), and the multistar(some nice tweaks to the floating mode like swiping from a to corner to start floating an that is already on screen) are the most useful in my perspective. I also downloaded an app called edge gestures to personalize my gesture experience even further, and an app called no keyboard because sometimes you just need to select/move/copy/paste text without the keyboard(even floating) to take any space on your screen.
Other nice apps I would recommend would be concepts(though still in development it is a nice vector based, layer-supporting drawing app), write 3.0 for general note taking(snappier stroke experience you'll get on android, and also vector based), and I cannot believe how much I have gotten into 3d sculpting and modeling with an app called nomad(is just so much fun even without knowing what you are doing).
I hope you have a great time with your tablet!

Pazzu510 said:
Same boat, I was really into root and other tweaks, now I'll get frustrated if I have to spend much time getting the experience I supposedly paid for. I actually just browse this forums in hopes of an update on next oneUI versions since they seem to have fixed some of the small caveats I find with the current version; sadly we are probably never going to get it though.
Anyway, the tab is beautiful and fast, and it will do most of the things you are expecting without losing a beat. To get the most out of it I would recommend getting the "good lock" apps to further personalize your experience (I wish someone told me about these before since I used the device for a month before finding them). The one hand operation(together with navigating gestures), the task changer(smaller more manageable app changer menu and initializing apps in floating mode from there), and the multistar(some nice tweaks to the floating mode like swiping from a to corner to start floating an that is already on screen) are the most useful in my perspective. I also downloaded an app called edge gestures to personalize my gesture experience even further, and an app called no keyboard because sometimes you just need to select/move/copy/paste text without the keyboard(even floating) to take any space on your screen.
Other nice apps I would recommend would be concepts(though still in development it is a nice vector based, layer-supporting drawing app), write 3.0 for general note taking(snappier stroke experience you'll get on android, and also vector based), and I cannot believe how much I have gotten into 3d sculpting and modeling with an app called nomad(is just so much fun even without knowing what you are doing).
I hope you have a great time with your tablet!
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Than you so much for the information! Mine arrives tomorrow. I will research all the apps you mentioned.

I totally agree with Pazzu510. I use my tablet a looooooot, I use it for work and for media. I'm going to recommed you to give it a try the default samunsg apps that comes with the tablet. I LOVE the file explorer, you can syncronize one note and its just perfect. The browser is awesome too, it has a lot of configurations. I use samsung notes for my college notes, but I already tried noteshelf (very good app too, but samsung works better with the spen in my opinion. Try both and use whatever you like more) Xodo, to annotate on pdf or just open them its just a must have. It has a very good integration with the spen, onenote, etc, and you can have mutiple pdfs open.
I recommend you to set the battery limitation to 85% to protect it. And take a time and configure the energy app administration settings to bring you the best experience.
I'm very very happy with my tablet and I hope you the same!!

InsertCoin_Pls said:
I totally agree with Pazzu510. I use my tablet a looooooot, I use it for work and for media. I'm going to recommed you to give it a try the default samunsg apps that comes with the tablet. I LOVE the file explorer, you can syncronize one note and its just perfect. The browser is awesome too, it has a lot of configurations. I use samsung notes for my college notes, but I already tried noteshelf (very good app too, but samsung works better with the spen in my opinion. Try both and use whatever you like more) Xodo, to annotate on pdf or just open them its just a must have. It has a very good integration with the spen, onenote, etc, and you can have mutiple pdfs open.
I recommend you to set the battery limitation to 85% to protect it. And take a time and configure the energy app administration settings to bring you the best experience.
I'm very very happy with my tablet and I hope you the same!!
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Thank you very much. It is on the UPS delivery truck and should be here in the next 3 hours or so. Really pumped to finally upgrade from the old S 10.5
Thanks for the tips!

The tablet is fantastic so far. Just trying to figure out which case style I prefer now. Probably will end up with like 4 cases at least.
The one disappointment was the sound...with the 4 speakers "tuned by akg" I was expecting more. My Mate 20x actually sounds better (which I know is highly regarded for sound but still). Luckily speaker usage is not crucial for me.

shaolin95 said:
The tablet is fantastic so far. Just trying to figure out which case style I prefer now. Probably will end up with like 4 cases at least.
The one disappointment was the sound...with the 4 speakers "tuned by akg" I was expecting more. My Mate 20x actually sounds better (which I know is highly regarded for sound but still). Luckily speaker usage is not crucial for me.
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Yes,I agree it is very good Tablet
_ I have T830 andoid 10, without root ... I'm using only Vanced Tube, I have removed enough bloatware, and I'm using " Nicelock downloader companion" & some modules for my device.These, I think are enough for this device...
( Nicelock downloader companion thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...p-v2-16-manual-download-links-thread.3923844/
_ (there is also a module for "audio - sound utility" ) : https://sites.google.com/view/nicelockdownloader/
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...2020-launcher-w-update-notifications.3908648/ )
_ How to Remove bloatware without Root, for free : https://beebom.com/how-remove-bloatware-android-without-root/

daitalos said:
Yes,I agree it is very good Tablet
_ I have T830 andoid 10, without root ... I'm using only Vanced Tube, I have removed enough bloatware, and I'm using " Nicelock downloader companion" & some modules for my device.These, I think are enough for this device...
( Nicelock downloader companion thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...p-v2-16-manual-download-links-thread.3923844/
_ (there is also a module for "audio - sound utility" ) : https://sites.google.com/view/nicelockdownloader/
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...2020-launcher-w-update-notifications.3908648/ )
_ How to Remove bloatware without Root, for free : https://beebom.com/how-remove-bloatware-android-without-root/
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Thanks for the information and the link, really appreciated it!!

shaolin95 said:
Aside from installing Vanced youtube...I am not sure I need root anymore. Weird to say that as I was big into custom ROMs, root, overclocking my phones back in the day
Anyway, mostly using this to replace my aging original Tab S 10.5 which is now been used inside my PC to display CPU speeds, temps, etc.
It was lagging with EMBY and other things even with custom ROMs but I am glad I was able to find a new home for it to be useful.
Thanks for any feedback!
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I thought the same thing. Almost a year later and still no android 11 with the sm-t837T. So that's pretty much my reason for wanting root. Lineage os! I've yet to root this tablet. Wonder is dex is gone it you flash a custom rom