To buy or not to buy Pro 8.4 - Galaxy Tab Pro 12.2, 10.1, 8.4 Q&A, Help & Trouble

I'm shopping for a 8" tablet. I'm considering either Samsung pro 8.4 or LG Pad 8.3 google play edition.
It seems that the 8.4 Pro stock ROM is sluggish compared with a google play edition LG G Pad 8.3. Will installing debloated ROM make Pro 8.4 as fast as LG G 8.3? Or its about high screen resolution on Samsung where customized ROMs can only help a little bit?

if you looking for pro8 , why not Samsung Tab S ?
Im using Tab Pro8, it works great, didn't flash any custom rom, just get root and install greenify, system tuner etc , i can del what i want even app in rom after root (Deboat), so it works very great. Of course it still can't compare with Note3 ( I swapped Note3 to TabPro this year) , i feel like just a bit slower while swapping apps. But, I like the menu button change, and installed GMD for faster app switching

ccheung said:
I'm shopping for a 8" tablet. I'm considering either Samsung pro 8.4 or LG Pad 8.3 google play edition.
It seems that the 8.4 Pro stock ROM is sluggish compared with a google play edition LG G Pad 8.3. Will installing debloated ROM make Pro 8.4 as fast as LG G 8.3? Or its about high screen resolution on Samsung where customized ROMs can only help a little bit?
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I have the Tab S 8.4 unrooted with stock ROM and I bought my girlfriend the 8.4 Pro and immediately installed Cyanogenmod 11 M9 on it. The Tab Pro is much, much smoother. I don't know about gaming but for general surfing, reading and videos the CM11 is definitely fast enough. I just wish it was also available for my Tab S so I could get rid of the Touchwiz lagfest because the Amoled screen in the Tab S blows away the Tab Pro.

I bought it 250 euros. for that price there is no competition. on the other hand there must be a reason that in 6 months it went down to 250 from 450...!
so far it is great but - yes there is a but... - it feels like it begs you to flash the "samsung" out of it...
so you will get a great tablet either way, which you can root or flash and make it awesome
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ccheung said:
I'm shopping for a 8" tablet. I'm considering either Samsung pro 8.4 or LG Pad 8.3 google play edition.
It seems that the 8.4 Pro stock ROM is sluggish compared with a google play edition LG G Pad 8.3. Will installing debloated ROM make Pro 8.4 as fast as LG G 8.3? Or its about high screen resolution on Samsung where customized ROMs can only help a little bit?
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The gpad 8.3 has two disadvantages over the Samsung tablets (pro or s)
- display. The display is arguably the most important tablet component -good tablet or bad, you'll be looking at that display! The gpad had a very disappointing display. Much dimmer than Samsung and the colors were a lot worse to my eye. Definitely compare them side by side before making a choice.
- the infrared remote: Samsung lets other developers make apps that work with the IR. The gpad, at least when I had it shortly after release, could not be accessed by most IR apps. That was down to its use of a proprietary, encrypted signal channel as I understand it.
I don't like Touchwiz, so I don't run it. You can run another launcher and do much better on feel of the UI, or you can go whole hog and install CM11 - the build for the device is quite good and is beginning to do very nice things for battery life.
The upside for the gpad is that it's going to get official releases of updates much faster than the pro or s series Samsung tabs will.
For me, the benefits of the Samsung are well worth it.

pduke7 said:
I bought it 250 euros. for that price there is no competition. on the other hand there must be a reason that in 6 months it went down to 250 from 450...!
so far it is great but - yes there is a but... - it feels like it begs you to flash the "samsung" out of it...
so you will get a great tablet either way, which you can root or flash and make it awesome
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Where did you get it for 250 eur?

Defenitly go for Samsung's 8.4, i've heard really bad recensions about LG's 8 inch tablets .
There is cyanogenmod and slimkat available for Pro 8.4 and they are working lovely.
Sound system is incredible on Pro 8.4, screen resolution is beautiful.
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Hamza Murad said:
Where did you get it for 250 eur?
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Greece
http://www.skroutz.gr/s/4574766/Samsung-Galaxy-Tab-Pro-8-4-Wi-Fi-16GB.html
this is like Kelkoo only better, but you will need a translator
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ccheung said:
It seems that the 8.4 Pro stock ROM is sluggish compared with a google play edition LG G Pad 8.3. Will installing debloated ROM make Pro 8.4 as fast as LG G 8.3? Or its about high screen resolution on Samsung where customized ROMs can only help a little bit?
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Haven't tried the LG tablet, so I couldn't compare the two. But to me, all the sluggishness was within the TouchWiz launcher (going between home screens, app drawer, etc.). Going to a CM-based ROM, the tablet feels very smooth to me.
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pduke7 said:
I bought it 250 euros. for that price there is no competition. on the other hand there must be a reason that in 6 months it went down to 250 from 450...!
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Its just the way it is with Android tablets. The masses are drawn to the cheaper devices, and the higher end tablets really don't sell much, and drop price quickly. Although I am glad the higher end Android tablets are being offered. It was pretty bad, for a while there wasn't anything but feature gimped cheap tablets in the smaller 7-8 inch form factor.

ccheung said:
I'm shopping for a 8" tablet. I'm considering either Samsung pro 8.4 or LG Pad 8.3 google play edition.
It seems that the 8.4 Pro stock ROM is sluggish compared with a google play edition LG G Pad 8.3. Will installing debloated ROM make Pro 8.4 as fast as LG G 8.3? Or its about high screen resolution on Samsung where customized ROMs can only help a little bit?
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Look at the release date for each tablet - I'd personally go with the newer

Do you care about the physical home button? That was a contributing factor to my Tab Pro purchase.

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Lg Optimus G Pro STOCK Android

Hello,
I see a lot of work being done in Original Android Development and that is really exacting to see!
I'm planing to buy a new smartphone and I was waiting to see what the Note 3 has to bring to the table, and I don't think we need 3gb of ram in any near future, and Super Amoled on Note 3 is pentile.
So for me there are only 2 options Note II or G Pro. I really like the G Pro because of Full HD screen, 13mpx camera, and Snapdragon 600 processor.
No matter what phone will I buy I will install custom rom on it (Pure Android AOSP, cm10.1 / 2...)
Now I have one question for you and one request;
Do you believe that G Pro will get fully stable 4.3 rom, and as far as the roms are at the moment are they fluid, and fast? I would totally buy Nexus device but it has to small screen for me, so speed and fluidity is a factor for me. Note II has Exynos processor but we all know how is Samsung with the source release, they just don't release it so the Note II will newer get used to the full potential...
How is LG in that department?
And I have one request. Can someone make a video of any pure Android based rom running on G Pro, so i can see that phone in action?
Thank you from hope to be soon user of G Pro!
even when I'm typing this, we're already having SlimBean 4.3 Beta. that's we can stay pretty stable. But what version u gonna buy? that's the big question. Development is in quicker pace fro E980 version, but the pace is still very slow (or can I say no go) for other variants such as E988. So, check out which version is compatible with the carrier you're using, and how many custom roms available for that version of handset. just my 2 cents

[Q] Which one is better, Gpad or Note8.0?

Gpad has better resolution, and Note 8.0 has S-pen...
well as you ask this in gpad's section i believe most will tell you that gpad is better. I really like samsung note 8 but it was more expensive than gpad
Now 8 is brighter and had. Spen. Everything else from speed weight screen resolution and price was better on this. Am a note 3 user so did not feel I wanted another so similar device. Also living the kit kat roms this
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If only these noobs knew how to use the search button rather than reposting discussions that already exist.
This gpad has 1920x1200 resolution microsd with exfat support out of the box. Knock and qremote features are very useful. The price is much better than the note 8, if you want something for note taking buy the 10.1 2014.

[Q] 2014 edition or Pro???

So Im interested in a tablet...
Had ipad mini when they came out. I liked it a lot. Found no use for it since I got a note 3. I didnt like the cross platform so I dumped the ipad mini.
Now im in the market for a tablet again.
Im debating...on the 10.1 I think (since I have the note 3)
Do I get a refurb or a used 2014 version???? OR do I spend the $ and get the pro version?
I think the only differences are:
USB 3.
Flash on camera
faster processor
(Unless I stand corrected)
redrover69 said:
So Im interested in a tablet...
Had ipad mini when they came out. I liked it a lot. Found no use for it since I got a note 3. I didnt like the cross platform so I dumped the ipad mini.
Now im in the market for a tablet again.
Im debating...on the 10.1 I think (since I have the note 3)
Do I get a refurb or a used 2014 version???? OR do I spend the $ and get the pro version?
I think the only differences are:
USB 3.
Flash on camera
faster processor
(Unless I stand corrected)
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I think I would wait to see what the KitKat update brings to the Note 2014 first and how important the S-pen is to you.
The Tab10.1 Pro does not have USB 3.0 only the 12.2 Note Pro has it.
The s pen comes with both units doesnt it???
The pro and 2014 edition also have the same processor and speed and the 2014 10.1 does have a flash with the camera.
redrover69 said:
The s pen comes with both units doesnt it???
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Are you talking about Note 10.1 2014 VS Note 12.2 Pro or Tab 10.1 Pro?
Tab 10.1 Pro no S-pen. and only 2gb ram.
kkretch said:
Are you talking about Note 10.1 2014 VS Note 12.2 Pro or Tab 10.1 Pro?
Tab 10.1 Pro no S-pen. and only 2gb ram.
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Hmmm
I guess I missed that...
I was looking at the 10.1 2014 version.... and trying to compare that to the pro version 10"...
the pro 12" comes only 32 and 64 is about $750
I guess comparing the 10.1 2014 to the PRO 10.1 it seems like the older version is a better deal...
the 12" pro is WAY too expensive for me...
I was just asking I have a situation where I can get an open boxed 2014 10.1 for 400 plus tax...I was seeing if that was worth doing...or get the newest one...Im always skeptical about getting refurb and open box stuff...
redrover69 said:
Hmmm
I guess I missed that...
I was looking at the 10.1 2014 version.... and trying to compare that to the pro version 10"...
the pro 12" comes only 32 and 64 is about $750
I guess comparing the 10.1 2014 to the PRO 10.1 it seems like the older version is a better deal...
the 12" pro is WAY too expensive for me...
I was just asking I have a situation where I can get an open boxed 2014 10.1 for 400 plus tax...I was seeing if that was worth doing...or get the newest one...Im always skeptical about getting refurb and open box stuff...
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There`s no Note PRO 10.1, only Note 10.1 2014 edition, the Pro 10.1 is the Tab not the Note.
lsherif said:
There`s no Note PRO 10.1, only Note 10.1 2014 edition, the Pro 10.1 is the Tab not the Note.
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Right Tab...
anyways...I was just tryin to figure out if I should go for the 2014 10.1 version or the newest 10 samsung tablet.
Sorry for any confusion and stuff
redrover69 said:
Hmmm
I guess I missed that...
I was looking at the 10.1 2014 version.... and trying to compare that to the pro version 10"...
the pro 12" comes only 32 and 64 is about $750
I guess comparing the 10.1 2014 to the PRO 10.1 it seems like the older version is a better deal...
the 12" pro is WAY too expensive for me...
I was just asking I have a situation where I can get an open boxed 2014 10.1 for 400 plus tax...I was seeing if that was worth doing...or get the newest one...Im always skeptical about getting refurb and open box stuff...
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The Note 10.1 and the Tab Pro 10.1 are the same price right now at Samsung.com.
As far as the open box unit goes.... keep this in mind, Samsung only covers warranty on devices purchased from authorized dealers. So if it is not an authorized dealer you will need to purchase a warranty for about $85.00. I always buy a 2 year accident policy with my tablets so that warranty exception is not a problem for me.
kkretch said:
The Note 10.1 and the Tab Pro 10.1 are the same price right now at Samsung.com.
As far as the open box unit goes.... keep this in mind, Samsung only covers warranty on devices purchased from authorized dealers. So if it is not an authorized dealer you will need to purchase a warranty for about $85.00. I always buy a 2 year accident policy with my tablets so that warranty exception is not a problem for me.
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Im not worried about a warranty.
Anyways getting back from bestbuy
the newer 10" device has microsoft office type apps on it. No S pen only on the 12". comes with kitkat faster processor.
The samsung rep said those office apps arent going to work for the older 2014 version of tablet.
outside of that...I didnt see much of a difference...
the open box is at a local bestbuy for me.
So is it worth to spend 400 on the older 2014 model (the newest 2014) 32gb and pay 400 plus tax or get the newest with kitkat for 550?
seems like a lot of $ just for that office suite no spen and higher resolution...
redrover69 said:
Im not worried about a warranty.
the newer 10" device has microsoft office type apps on it. No S pen only on the 12". comes with kitkat faster processor.
The samsung rep said those office apps arent going to work for the older 2014 version of tablet.
outside of that...I didnt see much of a difference...
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Samsung reps don't know much. I'm running Hancom office (what you call MS office type) on my 10.1 2014 right now. There is a post on this board how to get it working. And it's likely it will be available at some point from Samsung apps.
S Pen is what makes big difference for many users. I use it every day, for me Tab Pro is not even an option.
redrover69 said:
Im not worried about a warranty.
Anyways getting back from bestbuy
the newer 10" device has microsoft office type apps on it. No S pen only on the 12". comes with kitkat faster processor.
The samsung rep said those office apps arent going to work for the older 2014 version of tablet.
outside of that...I didnt see much of a difference...
the open box is at a local bestbuy for me.
So is it worth to spend 400 on the older 2014 model (the newest 2014) 32gb and pay 400 plus tax or get the newest with kitkat for 550?
seems like a lot of $ just for that office suite no spen and higher resolution...
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Also the resolution is exactly the same. Basically everything in the Tab Pro and the Note 10.1 2014 edition are exactly the same other than the S Pen and Software version. The Note 10.1 2014 edition should be getting an update to kit kat soon so basically the only real difference is the s pen which is pretty amazing if you're going to take notes. As the other guy said, the office suite is pretty easy to import to the note.
There is no note pro 10.1. Only tab pro 10.1. The specs are identIcal with galaxy note pro 12.2 and tab pro 10. tab does not come with a stylus
frankdanktank said:
There is no note pro 10.1. Only tab pro 10.1. The specs are identIcal with galaxy note pro 12.2 and tab pro 10. tab does not come with a stylus
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Tab Pro 10.1 has 2Gb RAM.
Tab Note Pro 12.2 and Note 10.1 2014 have 3Gb.
Sounds like I should get the 10.1 2014 refurbished and hack on what I want.
Unless I go for the 12" but that's easy too expensive
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Marshall1975 said:
The pro and 2014 edition also have the same processor and speed and the 2014 10.1 does have a flash with the camera.
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The 10.1 tab pro has 2 gb of ram whereas 2014 edition has 3
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LG G Pad or Tab Pro 8.4 ?

So I'm on the verge to buy a 8 inches tablet and I've come down to a choice between the G Pad and the Samsung Tab Pro 8.4 and would like to have your opinions.
So of course, on paper, I should go with the Tab Pro. Better CPU&GPU, higher resolution, bigger battery, etc. But...the G Pad kinda looks better, has software buttons, has better Roms support (thank you GPE) and is also 150 € cheaper ! I also wonder if the GPE program will allow the G Pad to get updated longer than the Tab Pro.
So is the faster CPU/GPU really a huge leap of performance ? I'm not a huge gamer and will mostly browse the web and watch films.
What do you think ?
DannyBiker said:
So I'm on the verge to buy a 8 inches tablet and I've come down to a choice between the G Pad and the Samsung Tab Pro 8.4 and would like to have your opinions.
So of course, on paper, I should go with the Tab Pro. Better CPU&GPU, higher resolution, bigger battery, etc. But...the G Pad kinda looks better, has software buttons, has better Roms support (thank you GPE) and is also 150 € cheaper ! I also wonder if the GPE program will allow the G Pad to get updated longer than the Tab Pro.
So is the faster CPU/GPU really a huge leap of performance ? I'm not a huge gamer and will mostly browse the web and watch films.
What do you think ?
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I have the GPE (V510), and I too wonder about the performance benefit of the Tab Pro's CPU. Test reports seem inconclusive on it.
As far as ROM support, it is nonexistent on the V510. And it's been about 3 weeks since Nexus devices and GPE phones received their 4.4.3/4 updates, and there's no trace of any update for our devices yet.
I would be interested in a hands on comparison from a forum member.
And please report back on your decision and impressions, whatever you decide to purchase.
Edit 1: 4.4.4 for V510 has been released today by Google.

which one to choose mainly for reading/browsing..?

Samsung Galaxy Tab 4 10.1 T531 (Wi-Fi/16GB/3G) vs LG G Pad 8.3 (Wi-Fi/16GB/3G) : price very near each other
The most important thing is reading books, surfing web...
How about accessories in the middle east? I can't be stuck with no accessories for the Gpad (No screen protector, No case..)
In case it's a factor, the VK810.4G doesn't have 3G at all. In other words, if an area doesn't have 4G, you'll have to use WIFI to be online.
Sent from my VK810 4G
medhunter said:
Samsung Galaxy Tab 4 10.1 T531 (Wi-Fi/16GB/3G) vs LG G Pad 8.3 (Wi-Fi/16GB/3G) : price very near each other
The most important thing is reading books, surfing web...
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Man, the galaxy tab 4 has a slow snapdragon 400 and poor adreno 305 while the g pad 8.3 has snapdragon 600 and adreno 320! Reading is not that great on the g pad compared to a 10 inch tablet though, but web browsing is great as the g pad 8.3 is very fast!
I think u can try getting an xperia Z tablet or Galaxy note 2014 which have comparable specs and price to the g pad, but with a larger screen! Trust me, snapdragon 400 is not good enough to power a tablet. There'll be lots of lag after u have used the galaxy tab 4 after about 3 months of use!
Accessories for the g pad is very rare in most markets. You'll need to buy them online!

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