[Q] Pros and Cons of Rooting - G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi all,
I've had Android devices for years now, some have been rooted, some not, and I've enjoyed playing around with a variety of custom ROMs.
In the specific case of the G3 though, I am curious as to what the perceived value of rooting is here, without the ability to flash a custom ROM? Are there performance gains to be had? Are there performance side effects?
I know it's a bit of a broad question, but I'm looking for G3 specific info. I have a D852 running on Bell. Is it worth rooting the device?
Thanks!

To get a halfway decent battery life you will probably need root to get rid of the boat.

G3 specific? G3 Tweakbox. It it awesome.

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[Q] Optimus G Pro, unlocked, rooted, and w/custom roms, What's to know?

Hey guys, a few months ago I remember when this phone was released and the dev's(sorry don't remember their names atm) were working on getting the phone unlocked and rooted.
I see now there's quite a few things, but what's the summary? Are we rooted and unlocked and are there some awesome custom roms out there? How much faster does it make it? What's to know about the G pro(problems/limitations/issue wise)?
Otherwise I'm itching to get a G pro soon enough, specs are decent, screen size is nice and big with decent resolution, etc. etc.
Thanks guys.
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Can anyone shed any insight on the roms and which one they prefer and why, etc? I know of CM, but I'm looking for something that would be compatible and close to stock but much more "better"(polished, debloated, tweaked, etc.) than stock.
Any suggestions?
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D851 worth getting today?

Hey guys, I'm not a must have flagship device or a crazy spender when it comes to phones. I tend to lean towards features, and developer support when it comes to phones. I'm still using the LG Optimus G e970 that I bought 2 years ago, and I think it's time for a change. The D851 has everything I'm looking for at a decent price, but I'm worried now after reading so many people are having boot loops, wifi issues, etc. Would it be a bad decision to buy this phone since it seems like it's facing a bunch of issues due to aging.
Thanks guys!
I just bought one last week. Refurbished. So far, so good. Still early to judge but this phone is so fast and smooth.
I am running stock with Marshmallow 6.0. I usually root but really I have no need to right now.
I got a mint used one with zero lemon 9k mah battery for 120, it's stock 6.0.1 rooted and debloated and works fantastic.
Thanks guys! I made the purchase with an extra battery!
Vampir1c said:
Thanks guys! I made the purchase with an extra battery!
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In my opinion, best phone for the price and features. I have had mine for nearly two years and it is still going strong. Just got a smart circle case with wireless charging and really happy with it. Developer support is also very good. I tried to run the Tmobile stock 6.0 but it was sluggish and Wifi calling could never connect. Using multirom, I can boot into LP for wifi calling if I need it. Fulmics is my main rom and I could not be happier with the features and performance.
bigcletus said:
In my opinion, best phone for the price and features. I have had mine for nearly two years and it is still going strong. Just got a smart circle case with wireless charging and really happy with it. Developer support is also very good. I tried to run the Tmobile stock 6.0 but it was sluggish and Wifi calling could never connect. Using multirom, I can boot into LP for wifi calling if I need it. Fulmics is my main rom and I could not be happier with the features and performance.
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Could you tell me if bluetooth is working on Fulmics. Thanks
mpces said:
Could you tell me if bluetooth is working on Fulmics. Thanks
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Bluetooth is working perfectly with the stock Fulmics kernel for me. I had tried a different kernel and it broke Bluetooth so I reverted back to avoid issues.
Everyone keeps talking about Fulmics.
May finally root my phone and try it!
How is the battery life?
My local store has one still BNIB collecting dust on the shelf, I didn't find out till after I got their last BNIB G4 and they didn't have any current price for it as corporate stopped updating that price list. I'm sort of thinking maybe I should have got it vs my G4 because of potential bootloop issues but my G4 was manufactured in April 2016 which is apparently after LG fixed the hardware problem. We'll see. I have half a mind to call them up tomorrow and see if I can get a current price on it.
I had a G3 on Verizon but didn't have it long enough to really make it shine. VZW installs so much freaking bloat that its kinda impossible to fairly judge a phone sometimes. Spec wise its honestly pretty close to the G4 although my G4 out of the box is the fastest phone I've had on an OEM rom and its not even close.
Definitely. I have had mine (bought it used) for 7 months now and have had no issues. I would recommend rooting and flashing a custom rom. Makes the phone so much better. It has the removable battery which is great, especially since the battery life is so-so. I can get through a whole day with it with moderate use so I guess it isn't that bad.
It's still a good phone, but look into the moto g4, double LTE speed capabilities. and double charging speed capabilities. Gotta keep up with the newest features
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LG G3 vs. G4 vs. G5
After watching dozens of YouTube videos making comparisons with these three phones, the G3 is still a great phone. The fact that you can buy one new very cheaply now is a plus. I am running Marshmallow now on mine with all of the latest updates. Stock 100%, but rooted and many of the apps frozen with Titanium Backup Pro. I NEVER have an issue with my phone. Battery life is excellent, I never drop calls, Wi-Fi calling works perfectly with my cable provider's router. The G4 and G5 look great but the "new improvements" are minimal at best. The newer models will cost you hundreds more, but the bells and whistles just are not there from what I have seen. An extra physical button or two would not sway me to upgrade this phone.
How did you guys root?
panamamike said:
How did you guys root?
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you can root 30D with Kingroot to get temporary root. Then use this:http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-lg-g3/development/stock-d851-30d-kdz-flashable-zips-imgs-t3367371
Pretty good.
Phone is pretty good. My main criticisms are the phones heat issue and rather dull screen. I haven't run custom ,don't know how much that helps.
Can anyone comment on what you would lose going custom ROM? Currently running stock Marshmallow 30D.
panamamike said:
Phone is pretty good. My main criticisms are the phones heat issue and rather dull screen. I haven't run custom ,don't know how much that helps.
Can anyone comment on what you would lose going custom ROM? Currently running stock Marshmallow 30D.
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As for heating issues -- only one thing will make the biggest difference: lowering the screen resolution to 1080p. That made the biggest difference in the world for me. But to do that, you would need to be on an AOSP rom.
Biggest thing you lose going custom is the camera quality. As for other things, with AOSP you lose the knock code to unlock feature (only feature from LG that I miss), and the LG apps if you actually like any of them. In general, you void your warranty by rooting, and you could run into some issues with some custom roms, Most common is lack of Bluetooth functionality, although many will have it working. It is a much greater experience than stock roms in my opinion and worth the loss. Worst comes to worst, and you go on a nice vacation where you need a good camera for pictures (i.e. hiking) then you could always restore your stock OS (backup is a must in TWRP once you are rooted) and use it for the vacation time, and go back to a custom rom once it is over
Andrewoidd said:
As for heating issues -- only one thing will make the biggest difference: lowering the screen resolution to 1080p. That made the biggest difference in the world for me. But to do that, you would need to be on an AOSP rom.
Biggest thing you lose going custom is the camera quality. As for other things, with AOSP you lose the knock code to unlock feature (only feature from LG that I miss), and the LG apps if you actually like any of them. In general, you void your warranty by rooting, and you could run into some issues with some custom roms, Most common is lack of Bluetooth functionality, although many will have it working. It is a much greater experience than stock roms in my opinion and worth the loss. Worst comes to worst, and you go on a nice vacation where you need a good camera for pictures (i.e. hiking) then you could always restore your stock OS (backup is a must in TWRP once you are rooted) and use it for the vacation time, and go back to a custom rom once it is over
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Thanks for the input on what's lost. I've read about the camera issue. Good to know that's the biggest difference.
Actually if you're running Marshmallow there is a game optimizer mode that will drop the screen resolution to 1080p when gaming on stock. This is where most of the heat issues occur. There's also an option to reduce the resolution to 1080p for all apps. Both options require root.
That being said, even at 1080p the phone gets hotter than it should for gaming. The only other option I've found is the hardware thermal paste mod. Not willing to try it yet.
panamamike said:
Thanks for the input on what's lost. I've read about the camera issue. Good to know that's the biggest difference.
Actually if you're running Marshmallow there is a game optimizer mode that will drop the screen resolution to 1080p when gaming on stock. This is where most of the heat issues occur. There's also an option to reduce the resolution to 1080p for all apps. Both options require root.
That being said, even at 1080p the phone gets hotter than it should for gaming. The only other option I've found is the hardware thermal paste mod. Not willing to try it yet.
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For me the phone got hot even with just multitasking. I really don't game too much and it was heating up like crazy. 1080p fixed all those issues for me. I felt as though performance was slightly better on 1400p, contrary to popular belief. The antutu score also showed that as well. Still like 1080 better though
jmacguire said:
After watching dozens of YouTube videos making comparisons with these three phones, the G3 is still a great phone. The fact that you can buy one new very cheaply now is a plus. I am running Marshmallow now on mine with all of the latest updates. Stock 100%, but rooted and many of the apps frozen with Titanium Backup Pro. I NEVER have an issue with my phone. Battery life is excellent, I never drop calls, Wi-Fi calling works perfectly with my cable provider's router. The G4 and G5 look great but the "new improvements" are minimal at best. The newer models will cost you hundreds more, but the bells and whistles just are not there from what I have seen. An extra physical button or two would not sway me to upgrade this phone.
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I love the phone too, but I don't believe there is root yet for the latest 30E update, hoping that changes soon.
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I have got to say my G3 is by far the best phone I've ever owned. I'm currently running Stock rooted 30D. I was thinking about flashing Fulmics ROM, but I read about losing of Bluetooth. I connect to my TV with HDMI Slimport adapter so I can play games on the big screen with my MOGA Power Pro gamepad. So losing Bluetooth is a deal breaker.
@aclegg2011 recently posted they're testing 30e Stock rooted.
Im still new user and can't yet post link to thread. Search Username and you should find it.

Semi-Noob?: Which custom 5.1.1 rom would work best for me?

Hi Gang, I just finished unlocking my BL and gaining perm-root on my verizon note 4. Thanks to all who were a part of making this happen.
I've never had this trouble before as I have always just run Hyperdrive on all my devices, which is Perfect for me... but, since there is no HD for the Note 4, I wanted to find out which rom would be closest to it? I have read a number of issues with various roms, particularly the MM ones (so I think I would just like to stay on 5.1.1) and started to get confused, so I thought I would ask...
The most important features to me, in this order are: stability, hotspot, no ads, no ota, all apps working in multi window, battery life, speed.
I don't care about the "looks" aspect of customization.
Can some one point me in the right direction, please?
Thank You!
PS: I have read about nearly every rom and that's how I got to this point. So, please be gentle.

G3 Best ROM for battery life over all versions

hello everyone,
i've replaced my G3 with a S7 Edge and i wanted to give my phone to my daughter who is more willing to have a stable and durable phone than a fast and short life mobile.
so my question is simple, over all the Android ROMS and versions (Kitkat, Lollipop, Marshmallow & Nougat), which one is the best in term of stability & overall battery?
she does not need any rooting or special tweaks.
thanks for your recommendations
jayce996 said:
hello everyone,
i've replaced my G3 with a S7 Edge and i wanted to give my phone to my daughter who is more willing to have a stable and durable phone than a fast and short life mobile.
so my question is simple, over all the Android ROMS and versions (Kitkat, Lollipop, Marshmallow & Nougat), which one is the best in term of stability & overall battery?
she does not need any rooting or special tweaks.
thanks for your recommendations
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Hello,
I would recommend Marshmallow ROMs.
Something like Cyanogenmod 13,Stable,Fast,Easily disabled Root Access(it's disabled by stock).
No bugs and crashes at all. The battery with a lowered brightness(40%),can easily make a day (normal usage example wifi,data,location All ON messaging,(messenger)
And while playing games it can stay 3-4,5 hours and maybe more.
Also with Doze feature,the battery has more durability when the phone isn't being used.
So my opinion is Cyanogenmod 13.(And that's what I'm using right now)
Greetings.
thank you very much! i'll give it a try this evening
If you ever find the cm 13 ROM, let me know. Im looking for it on the d852.
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Should I Root My 10?

So I've had the phone for a while, I am confident there are no physical faults and don't mind partially voiding my warranty. I've always struggled with battery life and ever since the Nougat update, my phone has been slowing down and experiencing some random issues such as very high WiFi latency and small 1-2s freezes.
Obviously a factory reset is in order and since I'm going to wipe the phone anyway, I was thinking I might root it as I have rooted all my past HTC phones; the only reason why I haven't rooted the 10 was because I was content with its performance (was) and I was waiting for Nougat, which I finally received.
Since the 10 might get Android O in the future, and it would be much easier to update over OTA, I was curious how everyone's experiences with custom ROMs and Kernels on the 10 has been? Have you experienced noticeably better battery life, performance, etc, what ROM/Kernel combinations do you guys recommend? Do you think rooting is a good choice?
Any comments welcome!
ryanjsoo said:
So I've had the phone for a while, I am confident there are no physical faults and don't mind partially voiding my warranty. I've always struggled with battery life and ever since the Nougat update, my phone has been slowing down and experiencing some random issues such as very high WiFi latency and small 1-2s freezes.
Obviously a factory reset is in order and since I'm going to wipe the phone anyway, I was thinking I might root it as I have rooted all my past HTC phones; the only reason why I haven't rooted the 10 was because I was content with its performance (was) and I was waiting for Nougat, which I finally received.
Since the 10 might get Android O in the future, and it would be much easier to update over OTA, I was curious how everyone's experiences with custom ROMs and Kernels on the 10 has been? Have you experienced noticeably better battery life, performance, etc, what ROM/Kernel combinations do you guys recommend? Do you think rooting is a good choice?
Any comments welcome!
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I root all of my devices but for specific reasons. I like to be able to remove unwanted applications and logging, I only want what I want running on my device. I also root to block ads with adaway, although there are alternative non root options now for this. Another benefit of root is modding, whether through a custom ROM or a stock ROM that you flash various mods to.
I initially ran the stock ROM rooted but soon found some limitations with the sd card.
A stock based custom ROM was the solution for me ( leedroid , but there are others ) . My battery life improved greatly and some mods do genuinely enhance the experience. Most roms have an installer that allows you to select everything that's installed, including kernel .
Another advantage for me is Titanium backup, the ability to backup applications prior to updating them and restore older versions of apps .
Your choice, but I enjoy the flexibility and freedom of root to take control over how my phone runs .

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